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View Poll Results: Which monkey got your vote | |||
Bush |
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7 | 21.88% |
Kerry |
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17 | 53.13% |
Nader |
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0 | 0% |
Other |
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4 | 12.50% |
Did not vote |
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4 | 12.50% |
Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll |
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This is a fully functional babe lair
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Who did YOU vote for
There's no shame in voting for the loser.. be thruthful
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The urban Jane Goodall
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Didn't vote and proud of it.
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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Constitutional Scholar
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Just because someone didn't win an election, doesn't mean they're a loser.
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The urban Jane Goodall
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And go into detail, I've heard a lot of reasons why I should have voted that don't really hold any water. Maybe your reasons are different. See my post here.
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Not voting doesn't send any message at all other than you are a slacker. That may not be the message you want to send, but it's the one you are sending. Most people who don't vote think it doesn't matter, or they don't care, or they can't be bothered, etc. You group yourself with those people if you don't vote, and any protest you may be making is drowned out by the slacker company you keep. If you want to send a message that you don't like any of the choices, but would vote for someone good if they presented themselves, then you need to write someone in. That shows you care enough to vote, and are not a slacker. It also shows you don't like the choices. Not voting is throwing your voice away. At least a write-in will give you some voice. Who knows, maybe I read you wrong, and you want to be a slacker not a protestor. If that's the case, then you shouldn't vote. But there is nothing to be proud of there. |
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The urban Jane Goodall
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If a write in is a voice then show me a list of the write ins for the election. If that voice is truly heard then such a list will exist otherwise it's weeping in the dark. Quote:
I am anything but a slacker. I work, I'm in school and I have a family. My ultimate goal is to be an instructor. I'm hoping to break people free from the moribund habits that they have and realize that change is becoming more and more necessary. Quote:
I'm not mad, just disappointed.
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I have read a few posts by you on this topic, but I still don't understand what you are trying to say other than you didn't like Bush or Kerry. If I don't understand, then what chance is there that any party or candidate is going to understand what you are trying to communicate with your lack of a vote? They don't even have your posts to read.
Let's look at it from another angle. What do you hope to accomplish with your lack of voting? It sounds like you are trying to accomplish something. Is that correct? Is it that your time is more valuable than the very slight impact your vote will have? That's the slacker view. Is it that you think that if enough people don't vote, some party will come to court you? Is it something else? I understand the idea that any single vote will have an almost negligible impact on the outcome. A write-in vote (which, by the way, should be on a list of results in your county somewhere) has even less impact. But no vote has zero impact. |
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The urban Jane Goodall
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I'm still waiting for you to show me how much impact a write in vote can have.
Numbers are sufficient, I don't require a list of every written in item, just how many occurred. Zero and statistically insignificant are still nothing.
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lurkin old school
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This is not about math. A write in vote is your personal act of demonstrating that you do indeed care about what you profess. Its your stand. It counts for that. It means that. And with out it, your words of protest and change ring hollow.
You say that you wish to help " break people free from the moribund habits that they have and realize that change is becoming more and more necessary". Well, you have to not just talk, but walk. That is the meaning in your "meaningless" write in. Its the start of change. Last edited by warch; 11-04-2004 at 12:34 PM. |
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The urban Jane Goodall
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If I profess that there is no one worth voting for and then vote then voting would be a lie correct?
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lurkin old school
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Maybe I am mistaken...do you support democracy at all? or advocate anarchy? which is fine, just be clear yourself.
If you still feel that there is worth in a democratic government, are interested in change but feel that there is no one you can support in this job, then vote "none". with out that act, your claim to that act, you are just blowing air. I'm saying that you vote your convicitions and you vote for yourself first, the tally is secondary. |
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lurkin old school
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One other thing, you sound only willing to act for change when you know its a sure thing, when there is critical mass. So you follow, eventually, rather than lead.
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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I knew someone that wrote in Abraham Lincoln. Don't forget to vote locally. Your vote does count.
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The urban Jane Goodall
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I'm also of the opinion that things won't get fixed until they break a little more. How exactly does one go about voting "none?"
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