Giuliani's hoof n' mouth

04-27-2007, 12:59 PM

I applaud Olberman yet again.

piercehawkeye45 · 04-27-2007, 02:40 PM

Good video rkzenrage.

I would be seriously scared if Giuliani got into office in fear of a police state. If this is not seriously changed, Giuliani is too delusional that I question his mental heath. What scares me even more is that he is ahead of McCain in the polls.

Ibby · 04-27-2007, 08:15 PM

I support Giuliani a lot more than McCain -- Giuliani's a social liberal.

tw · 04-27-2007, 08:55 PM

Giuliani reminds me somewhat of Ed Koch. They both just said things that were incorrect, wrong, or really not what was intended. Did not matter to many New Yorkers who cared more about the acts rather than the words. One described Koch as an ebullient personality. Is Giuliani also one?

Well, Giuliani is apparently trying to do something that just is not him - be politically correct. Why? So many of us really don't want honesty. We want political correctness - which means we like lies. Giuliani is not very good at being political correct. He's trying to say what Republican Party mainstream wants him to say. It does not play well for a man whose reputation was more about blunt; who has little experience with being politically correct.

Giuliani grated so many wrong. But he could get things done; could plan for the long term. It is why NYC - without any support from George Jr and his band of extremists - could deal with the event called 11 September. For that matter, NYC simply needed one honest response from the George Jr administration. Was the air toxic? George Jr's administration even lied about that which is why so many post 11 September workers and rescuers are now medically disabled.

But George Jr's administration was politically correct - which too many American really want.

TheMercenary · 04-28-2007, 07:51 AM

Giuliani will never get elected.

Clodfobble · 04-28-2007, 09:29 AM

Care to elaborate on that position?

TheMercenary · 04-28-2007, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Care to elaborate on that position?

Personal opinion. Basically the war is the overriding issue of the country. Some Dem will be elected. So even if he were to get the Republican nod, I don't think he can win. He has some quirky notions which do not fit the conservative mode and I think he may not even get nominated to the top Republican ticket because of them along with his history of multipul marriages. JMHO.

deadbeater · 04-30-2007, 07:08 PM

A multiple marriager just like Reagan.

tw · 04-30-2007, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deadbeater

A multiple marriager just like Reagan.

A leader this early in an election does not get nominated - especially in the Democratic party. Romney's father (Governor of Michigan) and Rockefeller (Governor of NY) are classic examples.

But Guiliani has another problem as TheMercenary appears to address. Party mainstream has little in common with Republicans such as Specter of PA, Collins of ME, Hagel of NE, Sununu of NH, and Bloomberg of NY. Guiliani has a same problem.

Worse for Guliani as well as for so many other Republicans is this flip-flop on abortion and other issues. That's not a leader. That is one playing for a political agenda. As far as I am concerned, both party nominations are wide open to anyone - announced or not yet running. Why is it even relevant or discussed. That election is 1.5 years off.

History suggests none of these candidates will be nominated. An exception may occur. But these people should be acting as leaders - not whoring for votes.

Beestie · 04-30-2007, 09:07 PM

I think we should have a special episode of Survivor.

SURVIVOR XII ANTARCTICA: THE CANDIDATES

Drop 'em all out of a helicopter into the middle of a floating ice shelf that is expected to melt right around the time the show is supposed to end. Throw in a few hungry polar bears for hilarious hyjinx and hours of wholesome entertainment for the entire family. Winner takes the White House.

06-27-2007, 04:39 PM

busterb · 06-27-2007, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Personal opinion. Basically the war is the overriding issue of the country.

What no immigration problems now??? no borders? WTF

Ibby · 06-27-2007, 09:04 PM

Well, buster, that's his POINT. Immigration obviously isn't nearly as big a deal to him as the war.
For once, I tend to agree.

EDIT: I take that back... he didn't even mean to HIM, he meant to the NATION. Which is definitely true. People care a lot more about our boys over there gettin' blown up an' shit than they do about a buncha' mexicans coming over.

Rexmons · 06-28-2007, 07:49 AM

Why I started really liking Olbermann:

piercehawkeye45 · 06-28-2007, 08:03 AM

Diltot?

Good video, Olbermann is one of the few good national TV reporters.

04-27-2007, 12:59 PM	#1
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Giuliani's hoof n' mouth I applaud Olberman yet again.

04-27-2007, 08:15 PM	#3
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	I support Giuliani a lot more than McCain -- Giuliani's a social liberal. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

04-28-2007, 07:51 AM	#5
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Giuliani will never get elected. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

04-30-2007, 09:07 PM	#10
Beestie -◊\|≡·∙■·∙≡\|◊- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Parts unknown. Posts: 4,081	I think we should have a special episode of Survivor. SURVIVOR XII ANTARCTICA: THE CANDIDATES Drop 'em all out of a helicopter into the middle of a floating ice shelf that is expected to melt right around the time the show is supposed to end. Throw in a few hungry polar bears for hilarious hyjinx and hours of wholesome entertainment for the entire family. Winner takes the White House. __________________ ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦

06-27-2007, 09:04 PM	#13
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Well, buster, that's his POINT. Immigration obviously isn't nearly as big a deal to him as the war. For once, I tend to agree. EDIT: I take that back... he didn't even mean to HIM, he meant to the NATION. Which is definitely true. People care a lot more about our boys over there gettin' blown up an' shit than they do about a buncha' mexicans coming over. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

04-27-2007, 02:40 PM	#2
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Good video rkzenrage. I would be seriously scared if Giuliani got into office in fear of a police state. If this is not seriously changed, Giuliani is too delusional that I question his mental heath. What scares me even more is that he is ahead of McCain in the polls.

04-27-2007, 08:55 PM	#4
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	Giuliani reminds me somewhat of Ed Koch. They both just said things that were incorrect, wrong, or really not what was intended. Did not matter to many New Yorkers who cared more about the acts rather than the words. One described Koch as an ebullient personality. Is Giuliani also one? Well, Giuliani is apparently trying to do something that just is not him - be politically correct. Why? So many of us really don't want honesty. We want political correctness - which means we like lies. Giuliani is not very good at being political correct. He's trying to say what Republican Party mainstream wants him to say. It does not play well for a man whose reputation was more about blunt; who has little experience with being politically correct. Giuliani grated so many wrong. But he could get things done; could plan for the long term. It is why NYC - without any support from George Jr and his band of extremists - could deal with the event called 11 September. For that matter, NYC simply needed one honest response from the George Jr administration. Was the air toxic? George Jr's administration even lied about that which is why so many post 11 September workers and rescuers are now medically disabled. But George Jr's administration was politically correct - which too many American really want.

04-28-2007, 09:29 AM	#6
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Care to elaborate on that position?

04-30-2007, 07:08 PM	#8
deadbeater Sir Post-A-Lot Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 439	A multiple marriager just like Reagan.

06-28-2007, 07:49 AM	#14
Rexmons - Kavkaz United - Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 613	Why I started really liking Olbermann: __________________ "Life's a bitch but God forbid the bitch divorce me..."

06-28-2007, 08:03 AM	#15
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Diltot? Good video, Olbermann is one of the few good national TV reporters.

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