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rkzenrage 04-27-2007 12:59 PM

Giuliani's hoof n' mouth
 


I applaud Olberman yet again.

piercehawkeye45 04-27-2007 02:40 PM

Good video rkzenrage.

I would be seriously scared if Giuliani got into office in fear of a police state. If this is not seriously changed, Giuliani is too delusional that I question his mental heath. What scares me even more is that he is ahead of McCain in the polls.

Ibby 04-27-2007 08:15 PM

I support Giuliani a lot more than McCain -- Giuliani's a social liberal.

tw 04-27-2007 08:55 PM

Giuliani reminds me somewhat of Ed Koch. They both just said things that were incorrect, wrong, or really not what was intended. Did not matter to many New Yorkers who cared more about the acts rather than the words. One described Koch as an ebullient personality. Is Giuliani also one?

Well, Giuliani is apparently trying to do something that just is not him - be politically correct. Why? So many of us really don't want honesty. We want political correctness - which means we like lies. Giuliani is not very good at being political correct. He's trying to say what Republican Party mainstream wants him to say. It does not play well for a man whose reputation was more about blunt; who has little experience with being politically correct.

Giuliani grated so many wrong. But he could get things done; could plan for the long term. It is why NYC - without any support from George Jr and his band of extremists - could deal with the event called 11 September. For that matter, NYC simply needed one honest response from the George Jr administration. Was the air toxic? George Jr's administration even lied about that which is why so many post 11 September workers and rescuers are now medically disabled.

But George Jr's administration was politically correct - which too many American really want.

TheMercenary 04-28-2007 07:51 AM

Giuliani will never get elected.

Clodfobble 04-28-2007 09:29 AM

Care to elaborate on that position?

TheMercenary 04-28-2007 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 338567)
Care to elaborate on that position?

Personal opinion. Basically the war is the overriding issue of the country. Some Dem will be elected. So even if he were to get the Republican nod, I don't think he can win. He has some quirky notions which do not fit the conservative mode and I think he may not even get nominated to the top Republican ticket because of them along with his history of multipul marriages. JMHO.

deadbeater 04-30-2007 07:08 PM

A multiple marriager just like Reagan.

tw 04-30-2007 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deadbeater (Post 339459)
A multiple marriager just like Reagan.

A leader this early in an election does not get nominated - especially in the Democratic party. Romney's father (Governor of Michigan) and Rockefeller (Governor of NY) are classic examples.

But Guiliani has another problem as TheMercenary appears to address. Party mainstream has little in common with Republicans such as Specter of PA, Collins of ME, Hagel of NE, Sununu of NH, and Bloomberg of NY. Guiliani has a same problem.

Worse for Guliani as well as for so many other Republicans is this flip-flop on abortion and other issues. That's not a leader. That is one playing for a political agenda. As far as I am concerned, both party nominations are wide open to anyone - announced or not yet running. Why is it even relevant or discussed. That election is 1.5 years off.

History suggests none of these candidates will be nominated. An exception may occur. But these people should be acting as leaders - not whoring for votes.

Beestie 04-30-2007 09:07 PM

I think we should have a special episode of Survivor.

SURVIVOR XII ANTARCTICA: THE CANDIDATES

Drop 'em all out of a helicopter into the middle of a floating ice shelf that is expected to melt right around the time the show is supposed to end. Throw in a few hungry polar bears for hilarious hyjinx and hours of wholesome entertainment for the entire family. Winner takes the White House.

rkzenrage 06-27-2007 04:39 PM


busterb 06-27-2007 08:54 PM

Quote:

Personal opinion. Basically the war is the overriding issue of the country.
What no immigration problems now??? no borders? WTF

Ibby 06-27-2007 09:04 PM

Well, buster, that's his POINT. Immigration obviously isn't nearly as big a deal to him as the war.
For once, I tend to agree.


EDIT: I take that back... he didn't even mean to HIM, he meant to the NATION. Which is definitely true. People care a lot more about our boys over there gettin' blown up an' shit than they do about a buncha' mexicans coming over.

Rexmons 06-28-2007 07:49 AM

Why I started really liking Olbermann:


piercehawkeye45 06-28-2007 08:03 AM

Diltot?

Good video, Olbermann is one of the few good national TV reporters.


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