Trump Policy

[xoxoxoBruce]

In other words, Donald Trump is overseeing the explicit shaping of corporate behavior by the state, which is a stark break from the libertarian framework that has guided U.S. policy since the 1990s.

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[Griff]

I think a younger still sane Trump would have done this more effectively. He won't get a national conversation focusing on coal but he will get to stay in office.

[xoxoxoBruce]

I read an article yesterday where they asked a bunch of people across the rust belt who said they will vote for trump, whether they voted for him last time, and why this time. Half had voted for him before but the consensus was he's a pig but business is good. Their personal income had risen and that was foremost. They felt the Democrats hadn't done anything for them because they were busy impeaching Trump.

[henry quirk]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

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[xoxoxoBruce]

That doesn't tell me much?

[Happy Monkey]

Interesting; looks like it's not an image, but an emoji (a thumbs down) from a font. On my browser, it's rendered using the "Segoe UI Emoji" font. You may not have a font installed that supports that character.

[henry quirk]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Interesting; looks like it's not an image, but an emoji (a thumbs down) from a font. On my browser, it's rendered using the "Segoe UI Emoji" font. You may not have a font installed that supports that character.

It's a thumbs down offa the Ipad menu.

I think I've used it in-forum before without issue.

*shrug*

[henry quirk]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

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It's a crap article.

Trump isn't libertarian or Libertarian, he's a state capitalist.

The U.S. has had a managed economy for a looooong time, so: there ain't no libertarianism or Libertarianism for him to shy away from.

[xoxoxoBruce]

I can see why you would reject that article as the republican bent of business over people while often referred to as free market or libertarian doesn't square with your definition of libertarianism. What I got from it was a shift in federal policy regardless of what they call it.

Of course you realize your definition appeals to a small minority, and most people want the government and business to work together to make the nation as prosperous as possible, so the most people possible live well.

Especially me, it should be all about me, that's priority #1.

[henry quirk]

Originally Posted by Bruce

I can see why you would reject that article as the republican bent of business over people while often referred to as free market or libertarian doesn't square with your definition of libertarianism. What I got from it was a shift in federal policy regardless of what they call it.

If the writer had stuck to describin' those policy shifts, instead of labelling 'em, it woulda been a better piece.

Originally Posted by Bruce

Of course you realize your definition appeals to a small minority, and most people want the government and business to work together to make the nation as prosperous as possible, so the most people possible live well.

Yeah, I'm an oddly shaped piece: I don't fit.

Originally Posted by Bruce

Especially me, it should be all about me, that's priority #1.

[Luce]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

It's a crap article.

Trump isn't libertarian or Libertarian, he's a state capitalist.

The U.S. has had a managed economy for a looooong time, so: there ain't no libertarianism or Libertarianism for him to shy away from.

I was gonna say, Trump has definitely veered away from the right's more libertarian approach to the economy. There is nothing libertarian about him. He is in fact the exact opposite of libertarian.

[henry quirk]

Originally Posted by Luce

I was gonna say, Trump has definitely veered away from the right's more libertarian approach to the economy. There is nothing libertarian about him. He is in fact the exact opposite of libertarian.

No. If he were the exact opposite he'd be a commie.

Trump is a state-capitalist.

Not the greatest thing is the world to be but still way better than bein' a state-socialist.

[Luce]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

No. If he were the exact opposite he'd be a commie.

Trump is a state-capitalist.

Not the greatest thing is the world to be but still way better than bein' a state-socialist.

There is no functional difference.

Example: China.

ETA: The dichotomy here isn't capitalism vs communism, it's planned economy vs decentralized.

[henry quirk]

"it's planned economy vs decentralized."

No. Here is the U.S. we don't have either.

We have a managed economy which is not the same as planned. And while not decentralized, the U.S. economy is by no means centralized (instead, it has centers of control, a whole whack of 'em).

[Luce]

Originally Posted by henry quirk

"it's planned economy vs decentralized."

No. Here is the U.S. we don't have either.

We have a managed economy which is not the same as planned. And while not decentralized, the U.S. economy is by no means centralized (instead, it has centers of control, a whole whack of 'em).

Oh, I know. But the direction Trump is heading is a planned economy.