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09-26-2007, 10:44 PM
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As I have stated before biblical sodomy encompasses many things, not just same sex relations or anal sex. So, how does someone today upgrade one part of one of 614 abominations to sin on a whim? To me it is their sexual obsession and closet homoerotisim that they are unable to deal with coming out as anger and the need to punish others for what they want to do. There is nothing biblical about it being a sin... that is a myth. But, for the sake of argument we will pretend that it is a sin, though it is not... so what? Is a requirement of being a priest in the Episcopal/Anglican church never to have sinned, not to be able to ever sin? I was under the impression that we are all sinners, that we lust in our heart, tell white lies, etc, etc, etc.... even priests. How is this one "sin" not even names in the bible worse than the ones, oh say, like on the commandments. "I wash my dishes on Sunday"... "You can go ahead and be a priest even though that is a mortal sin. We just don't want anyone with one of those unnamed sins, they freak us out". |
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09-27-2007, 12:37 AM
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why exactly does it piss you off so badly what people in a religion you don't believe in choose to do with their clergy that will have absolutely no effect on your life?
seriously, why the constant rage?
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09-27-2007, 12:37 AM
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These people are afraid of what they don't understand, so they look to their most trusted source for answers. And when you are looking for evidence that agrees with what you think, regardless if it is correct or not, you're usually going to find it. You want something to be true so you find a way for it to be "true".
They believe this one thing, and are choosing to run their private organization that way. Nothing wrong with that. Of course they are incorrect about gays, but they are well within their rights to exclude them from leadership positions in their private organization.
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09-27-2007, 12:46 AM
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Both the major Episcopalian churches in my town have run off and joined the Africans because they refuse to approve anything having to do with homosexuals. In one of them, I was confirmed, and my children were baptised. It makes me sad and sick.
The more I think about it, the more I tend to agree that organized religion is a blight upon humanity. Bigotry, hatred, and murder have been the most lasting legacy, unfortunately outweighing the good that faith and good works have done.
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09-27-2007, 01:11 AM
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I guess no one should speak out against the Klan then, right, they are a private club that just utilizes their free speech rights and excludes who they like? |
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09-27-2007, 01:16 AM
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don't flatter yourself fukstik. i figured you posted your thread to spark discussion, so i'm discussing. got an answer for the question or do you want to stick with the weak diversion?
and if you want to compare the organizations, when is the last time a bunch of episcopalians marched around burning crosses?
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09-27-2007, 01:17 AM
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Asking why I posted it is not discussion.
Try again Dr. ad hominem. |
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09-27-2007, 06:31 AM
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Can you feel the love tonight?
The peace the evening brings The world, for once, in perfect harmony With all its living things Can you feel the love tonight? You needn't look too far Stealing through the night's uncertainties Love is where they are
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09-27-2007, 06:47 AM
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The American Episcopal Church is evolving. They are breaking with long-standing traditions and beliefs, some back-sliding is to be expected. Your hatred of religion blinds you to the fact that all bureacracies have difficulty changing. I wish they could make positive change happen seamlessly, but they can't they are people like you and me. People are not perfect.
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09-27-2007, 10:01 AM
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The only reason this is in the news is because they are talking about what role gays should have in church leadership. In the leadership!! Other religions don't even want you as a member if you are openly gay, let alone in the leadership. |
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09-27-2007, 10:38 AM
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you don't believe in what that church believes? cool. you don't want to join? cool. you think they are full off shit? cool. they don't want gays in leadership? cool. it is their club, let them have it. why does it piss you off so badly that a club based on ideas you don't believe in doesn't want a certain person in a leadership position? in theory i could understand a member of the church being upset that a gay priest they know isn't allowed a leadership position because he's gay... but you aren't a member. you're just a hater.
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09-27-2007, 10:50 AM
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who said they were pretend? i was just thinking of the basketball player last year that wrote a book to come out. my thought was, and is, who cares? you're a has been athlete, do i really care who you're bumping and grinding with?
i don't care who is gay or straight.
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