Debate or argument?

HungLikeJesus · 05-25-2007, 06:09 PM

I would propose to discuss the relative merits of a debate versus an argument.

Whether it's climate change, religion, politics, guns, or ice cream, if your point is to make a point, you should be debating.

If you're trying to educate others, you should be debating.

If your goal is the manufacture and dissemination of misinformation, you should be debating.

If you want to show how smart you are, you should be debating.

If your desire is to humiliate, subjugate or dominate others, or raise your own blood pressure, or increase the level of tension and dissatisfaction in the Cellar - or in the world; if you want to show how ignorant you are, or generally cast yourself in a bad light - then you should be arguing.

In the Cellar - as in the world - I see too much arguing and not enough debating.

What would you like to see?

wolf · 05-25-2007, 06:18 PM

Arguments are more entertaining, though.

HungLikeJesus · 05-25-2007, 06:19 PM

wolf - how did you respond before I finished the poll?

wolf · 05-25-2007, 06:33 PM

I am one with the Force.

Cloud · 05-25-2007, 06:35 PM

don't like either

HungLikeJesus · 05-25-2007, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf

I am one with the Force.

Oh good. I was afraid that you were the ghost in the machine.

Trilby · 05-25-2007, 07:43 PM

I voted more debate and less argument but sometimes those with passionate natures cannot help themselves...

Weird Harold · 05-25-2007, 09:10 PM

I don't like either, but I don't want to sound like, I don't like it, because I'm above all of that. It just doesn't interest me. It's just not my bag. I like the fluff. I like reading something that makes me smile. Turning on the computer to find a fight is like a foreign language to me. I don't understand why, but lots of people enjoy debate, I don't.

Spexxvet · 05-25-2007, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HLJ

...What would you like to see?

I'd like to see Brianna naked.

HungLikeJesus · 05-26-2007, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

I'd like to see Brianna naked.

You'll get in this regard I think not either debate nor argument (except perhaps from she herself).

05-26-2007, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf

Arguments are more entertaining, though.

Agreed, I would rather participate in a debate than an argument; but, arguments are engaging as spectator sport. This creates a dilemma for someone who's just here for the entertainment. I suppose I'll have to become a referee ...

TheMercenary · 05-26-2007, 07:05 AM

Either, it is all constructive on some level.

King · 05-26-2007, 08:36 AM

More debate. Too often on here (and everywhere really) if you challenge a point that someone makes they take it as a personal attack.

Trilby · 05-26-2007, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

I'd like to see Brianna naked.

OK. But you first.

skysidhe · 05-26-2007, 09:24 AM

The fine art of debating is lost in text form. Without hearing a persons tone of voice it may seem like an argument when really it is debating.

I think when it get's down to put downs and name calling then one can be sure it's an argument.

The only person I argued with was my x boyfriend who insisted it was not ok for me to feel upset when he hung up on me twice.
Now that became an argument!

View Poll Results: Would you like to see more or less argument and debate in the Cellar?
More argument, less debate	0	0%
More debate, less argument	16	55.17%
More of both	3	10.34%
Less of both	3	10.34%
Things are fine as they are	4	13.79%
I still don't understand the difference	0	0%
I refuse to respond to another $#%#$ poll!	3	10.34%
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05-25-2007, 06:09 PM	#1
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	Debate or argument? I would propose to discuss the relative merits of a debate versus an argument. Whether it's climate change, religion, politics, guns, or ice cream, if your point is to make a point, you should be debating. If you're trying to educate others, you should be debating. If your goal is the manufacture and dissemination of misinformation, you should be debating. If you want to show how smart you are, you should be debating. If your desire is to humiliate, subjugate or dominate others, or raise your own blood pressure, or increase the level of tension and dissatisfaction in the Cellar - or in the world; if you want to show how ignorant you are, or generally cast yourself in a bad light - then you should be arguing. In the Cellar - as in the world - I see too much arguing and not enough debating. What would you like to see? __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

05-25-2007, 06:18 PM	#2
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Arguments are more entertaining, though. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

05-25-2007, 06:19 PM	#3
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	wolf - how did you respond before I finished the poll? __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

05-25-2007, 06:33 PM	#4
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I am one with the Force. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

05-25-2007, 06:35 PM	#5
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	don't like either __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

05-25-2007, 07:43 PM	#7
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I voted more debate and less argument but sometimes those with passionate natures cannot help themselves... __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

05-25-2007, 09:10 PM	#8
Weird Harold Vice-President of Resentment Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 199	I don't like either, but I don't want to sound like, I don't like it, because I'm above all of that. It just doesn't interest me. It's just not my bag. I like the fluff. I like reading something that makes me smile. Turning on the computer to find a fight is like a foreign language to me. I don't understand why, but lots of people enjoy debate, I don't. __________________ I don't need a whole lottsa money. I don't need a big fine car.

05-26-2007, 07:05 AM	#12
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Either, it is all constructive on some level. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

05-26-2007, 08:36 AM	#13
King Conquistador Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Everywhere Posts: 259	More debate. Too often on here (and everywhere really) if you challenge a point that someone makes they take it as a personal attack. __________________ "I've shot you, Jeff. With a bullet made of Scottish finance regulations."

05-26-2007, 09:24 AM	#15
skysidhe ~~Life is either a daring adventure or nothing.~~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6,828	The fine art of debating is lost in text form. Without hearing a persons tone of voice it may seem like an argument when really it is debating. I think when it get's down to put downs and name calling then one can be sure it's an argument. The only person I argued with was my x boyfriend who insisted it was not ok for me to feel upset when he hung up on me twice. Now that became an argument!

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