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HungLikeJesus 05-25-2007 06:09 PM

Debate or argument?
 
I would propose to discuss the relative merits of a debate versus an argument.

Whether it's climate change, religion, politics, guns, or ice cream, if your point is to make a point, you should be debating.

If you're trying to educate others, you should be debating.

If your goal is the manufacture and dissemination of misinformation, you should be debating.

If you want to show how smart you are, you should be debating.

If your desire is to humiliate, subjugate or dominate others, or raise your own blood pressure, or increase the level of tension and dissatisfaction in the Cellar - or in the world; if you want to show how ignorant you are, or generally cast yourself in a bad light - then you should be arguing.

In the Cellar - as in the world - I see too much arguing and not enough debating.

What would you like to see?

wolf 05-25-2007 06:18 PM

Arguments are more entertaining, though.

HungLikeJesus 05-25-2007 06:19 PM

wolf - how did you respond before I finished the poll?

wolf 05-25-2007 06:33 PM

I am one with the Force.

Cloud 05-25-2007 06:35 PM

don't like either

HungLikeJesus 05-25-2007 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf (Post 347078)
I am one with the Force.

Oh good. I was afraid that you were the ghost in the machine.

Trilby 05-25-2007 07:43 PM

I voted more debate and less argument but sometimes those with passionate natures cannot help themselves... :rolleyes:

Weird Harold 05-25-2007 09:10 PM

I don't like either, but I don't want to sound like, I don't like it, because I'm above all of that. It just doesn't interest me. It's just not my bag. I like the fluff. I like reading something that makes me smile. Turning on the computer to find a fight is like a foreign language to me. I don't understand why, but lots of people enjoy debate, I don't.

Spexxvet 05-25-2007 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HLJ (Post 347067)
...What would you like to see?

I'd like to see Brianna naked. :)

HungLikeJesus 05-26-2007 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 347113)
I'd like to see Brianna naked. :)

You'll get in this regard I think not either debate nor argument (except perhaps from she herself).

NoBoxes 05-26-2007 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf (Post 347071)
Arguments are more entertaining, though.

Agreed, I would rather participate in a debate than an argument; but, arguments are engaging as spectator sport. This creates a dilemma for someone who's just here for the entertainment. I suppose I'll have to become a referee ... :sniff:

TheMercenary 05-26-2007 07:05 AM

Either, it is all constructive on some level.

King 05-26-2007 08:36 AM

More debate. Too often on here (and everywhere really) if you challenge a point that someone makes they take it as a personal attack.

Trilby 05-26-2007 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 347113)
I'd like to see Brianna naked. :)

OK. But you first. :)

skysidhe 05-26-2007 09:24 AM

The fine art of debating is lost in text form. Without hearing a persons tone of voice it may seem like an argument when really it is debating.

I think when it get's down to put downs and name calling then one can be sure it's an argument.

The only person I argued with was my x boyfriend who insisted it was not ok for me to feel upset when he hung up on me twice.
Now that became an argument!


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