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juju 08-29-2003 07:39 AM

That's a fundamental problem of communication itself. :)

Griff 08-29-2003 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by juju
That's a fundamental problem of communication itself. :)
I think what you're trying to say is that communication while problematic is fundemental.

elSicomoro 08-29-2003 08:14 AM

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Originally posted by Griff
I think...you're...problematic.

dave 08-29-2003 08:16 AM

I don't believe that the laws of selective quoting allow you to put the period at the end, because he didn't put the period at the end of "problematic". You probably need to end with an ellipsis.

elSicomoro 08-29-2003 08:22 AM

Hmmm...let's look at the Sycamore Manifestos rulebook:

The only rule: Almost anything goes, so long as it's cool with Sycamore

That settles that. :)

dave 08-29-2003 08:25 AM

Hey man, I'm just trying to help. You tarnish the integrity of your post by misquoting.

Griff 08-29-2003 08:34 AM

problem solved
 
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Originally posted by dave
I... believe that the laws of selective quoting allow you to put the period at the end,..
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Originally posted by Dave
Hey man, I'm just trying to help...tarnish the integrity of your post by misquoting.

LUVBUGZ 08-29-2003 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by dave


I'm not <b>trying</b> to say anything. I said it. Whether or not you believe it is up to you.

This is a problem with a lot of people on here; they read what someone says, and think they mean something else. No matter how much you clarify, someone will always ruin it.

All right already. I see what you said, but I don't agree. Is that better? Although, I still think that what I said I thought you were saying is what you meant. I just didn't agree with your use of the term "respectful manner" because even blacks don't use the term in a "respectful" manner amongst themselves. If you had said "jovial manner", or something like that, then I would totally agree with your statement. But, since you probably don't give a rat's ass whether I agree with your statement or not, fuck it. I'm getting pretty fucking fed up with clarifying myself too these days, especially to people who obviously have thair head so far up their ass that I could attempt to clarify myself for years and it would fall on deaf (and dumb) ears. So like you say why fucking waste your breath, right?

dave 08-29-2003 09:08 AM

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Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
Although, I still think that what I said I thought you were saying is what you meant.
Could I make it any more clear? <b>No, that is not what I meant. What I said is what I meant.</b> "Nigga" is a term of respect and endearment on the street. It's not at all equivalent to "What's up, dumbass?" or whatever you might think. It is not a derogatory term when used to refer to friends. It's not used in a joking manner.

Do a little reading. Google just turned this up (emphasis mine):

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"When I'm hanging out on the corner with my friends and I see one of my boys it's only natural for me to say, whaz, up my nigga," says Feli Feliciano, 24, Puerto Rican and a junior majoring in business at Borough of Manhattan Community College. "I use it because my generation no longer sees it as a degrading word. By using it I'm putting my friends up on a pedestal for a moment, all attentions on them. That makes you feel good! I wouldn't say what's up my brother. That sounds too peaceful, too 1960s. There's no machismo in that!"

But like any other street slang or street epithet there is a time and a place for the word. "When I use it, it's only in informal settings. I wouldn't say it on a job interview or to one of my professors at school," he says.

There are people who do not agree with Feliciano that nigga or nigger is a term of endearment. Still, other people of color argue that by using the epithet, they desensitize the original derogative meaning and connotations of the word. "<b>Nigga is a term of respect in my community. It's the highest term of affection.</b>"
But yes, I'm wrong. No one uses it as a term of respect.

elSicomoro 08-29-2003 10:06 AM

What I think Dave is trying to say is...

juju 08-29-2003 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by dave
Hey man, I'm just trying to help. You tarnish the integrity of your post by misquoting.
Sycamore has integrity?

juju 08-29-2003 10:58 AM

Oh, wait, I get it. Just his posts.

LUVBUGZ 08-29-2003 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by dave


But yes, I'm wrong. No one uses it as a term of respect.

No, you're right Dave. I see the error of my ways now. Thanks for the "clarification". I'll never question, analyze, or attempt to convert your words into what I think they mean again. Sorry for any inconvenience this has brought you. Truely, I'm sorry. Forgive me. I promise I won't ever do it again. Sorry.:p

Griff 08-29-2003 03:14 PM

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Applying nuance translator LUVBUGZ meant to say

No, Dave. I see your error. Thanks, I'll convert your words into what I think they mean again. Sorry for any inconvenience this will bring you. Truely, you are sorry. Bite me. I promise I'll need to do it again. Stuff it. :finger:

I think thats what she means.

elSicomoro 08-29-2003 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by Griff as interpreted by el sicómoro
I think thats...means.
You sound southern there, Griffo.

Juju, more in my pinky than you could ever have or dream.


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