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juju 08-27-2003 09:06 PM

I don't think there was a Pangea when primates started walking. Otherwise they needn't have gone via the Bering Straight.

In any case, they know the direction of migration by dating the oldest known hominid fossils in each area of the earth.

elSicomoro 08-27-2003 09:16 PM

You're right, Juju. Man, I don't know what the fuck I was thinking on that Pangaea thing...maybe the dinosaurs. *shrugs*

elSicomoro 08-27-2003 09:21 PM

Here's a cool little animation bit I found on the breakup of Pangaea.

juju 08-27-2003 09:26 PM

neat.

xoxoxoBruce 08-27-2003 10:39 PM

Great link, Syc. Clicking the "visualizations" button in the upper left leads to all kinds of interesting stuff.:thumb:

LUVBUGZ 08-28-2003 02:51 PM

Race Relations
 
Syc, maybe you could give me your opinion on this phenomenon.

Why is it that black's get so pissed off about the "N" word when I constantly here them using it freely amongst themselves? Ex. "What up nigga?:confused: When I was younger I remember hanging around some black people who were throwing this around left and right and in my feeble (ignorant) attempt to fit in I said it too and almost got my fat cracker ass kicked?

dave 08-28-2003 03:43 PM

Well, it's stupid, but basically the reason is because white folks haven't earned the right to use that word in a respectful manner. That's what the blacks that use it seem to think, anyway.

elSicomoro 08-28-2003 06:02 PM

I agree, although I wouldn't put it that way, and I wouldn't call it stupid. With younger blacks, it's like a term of empowerment, e.g. "Queer Nation." It's "their special word" for them to have among themselves...taking it back from Whitey and making it their own. With older blacks (and overall), it still holds a powerful derogatory connotation when used by a white person.

I understand where folks are coming from on that, and I'll even agree that it's overused.

Now, watch this:

Dave, you're just another dumb nigger.

If you're cool with particular people, and you know that various words won't offend, then use away. But when in doubt, don't use 'em.

xoxoxoBruce 08-28-2003 06:17 PM

Quote:

Dave, you're just another dumb nigger.
Uh..shouldn't that be nigga?:confused:

elSicomoro 08-28-2003 06:29 PM

Well, Dave is my nigga, but he's also a dumb nigger.

Griff 08-28-2003 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dave
Well, it's stupid, but basically the reason is because white folks haven't earned the right to use that word in a respectful manner. That's what the blacks that use it seem to think, anyway.
By the same token, BUGZ shouldn't let anybody but a fellow cracker call her a cracker... of course that's not the way the world works.

elSicomoro 08-28-2003 07:21 PM

I thought I was going to fall out of my chair when my 70 year old father-in-law called this woman he didn't like a "poor white cracker."

LUVBUGZ 08-29-2003 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dave
Well, it's stupid, but basically the reason is because white folks haven't earned the right to use that word in a respectful manner. That's what the blacks that use it seem to think, anyway.
I don't see how it could ever be used respectfully by anyone black or white. When the blacks use it it seems to be used jovially, but not necessarily as a term of respect. Kinda like me (cracker) saying "What up dumb ass" to Syc or Bruce (crackers too!). It is in a joking manner, but not really respectful. I see what you're trying to say though.

LUVBUGZ 08-29-2003 02:36 AM

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Originally posted by sycamore
I agree, although I wouldn't put it that way, and I wouldn't call it stupid. With younger blacks, it's like a term of empowerment, e.g. "Queer Nation." It's "their special word" for them to have among themselves...taking it back from Whitey and making it their own. With older blacks (and overall), it still holds a powerful derogatory connotation when used by a white person.
Yea, I see what you guys are saying, but at the same time if white people had a "special" word just for us crackers, you could be sure that we would be looked upon in a negative manner for that. Kinda like white pride. If a white person goes around saying they are proud to be white or displays this in any form, then they are looked at as a racist. I'm not talking about waving a Confederate flag around or anything, but simply expressing to others that they are proud to be white. What's up w/ that niggas?:p

dave 08-29-2003 06:56 AM

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Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
It is in a joking manner, but not really respectful. I see what you're trying to say though.
I'm not <b>trying</b> to say anything. I said it. Whether or not you believe it is up to you.

This is a problem with a lot of people on here; they read what someone says, and think they mean something else. No matter how much you clarify, someone will always ruin it.


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