I couldn't agree more.

After this huge financial mess caused by greedy people on Wall Street, I think they will turn even more to the democratic party, especially if this administration stands up to those Wall Street pirates.

All the republican party wants to do is cut taxes even more for corporations/rich people and capital gains taxes. It simply doesn't work.

They have forgotten the true meaning of the word conservative which was originally about being fiscally conservative. They have turned it into a war against the American people, if you don't buy into to their particular brand of religion, or morals, or ethics, etc. And they have been such beacons of moral superiority... :headshake

Numerous factions are vying to manipulate the Republican party. You can bet the wacko extremists are using Limbaugh to promote their new party agenda. However McConnell is the party leader. Either he will define the new Republican party or first be deposed.

Just because one faction got their new political agenda published does not mean that is the party agenda. It will take at least one year to see where the party intends to go. Currently we only have people shooting sky rockets to see how the crowd oooohs and aaaahs.

Palin ... Joe ... you are making this up, right? :lol2:

The day we erase the lines of states it the day that will happen. It is obvious you don't care for the issues of states rights, because if you did you would consider that population statistics do not trump borders. The purpose of the Republic and the electoral college was to prevent that very thing. Democratic voting is just that, a winner take all majority rules. That is a dangerous thing because one day the tables may be turned and you might be on the other end of that pointed stick.

In fact, I think it would be very supportive of states rights.

It would allow a state to chose whether all its electoral votes should go to the winner of that state's overall popular vote or to allocate the electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote in each congressional district which is how Maine and Nebraska do it now and I havent heard complaints from either party in those states.

In fact, if you want to look at it in a partisan manner, it would probably benefit the Republicans more - giving them electoral votes in large states (CA, NY, PA, MI, etc) that are traditionally Democratic....and you could include FL and OH this year.

But I should have said that I would like to see such an amendment introduced and debated. I cant say for certain that I would support it until hearing more on pros and cons.

No, winner takes all is majority rule. Mob rule is not a good thing. Sounds just like Congress.

Are you suggesting that the presidential electoral process in Maine and Nebraska is by mob rule?

No, I am suggesting that those states with winner take all are a flawed means to an end.

Yep. This also happens to small parties. The Libertarians, for example.

Rog, been there done that! Watched the "purists" take over, walked away. Watched the "purists" walk away for "purity" reasons. Laughed.

Just because the 3rd parties are FUNNIER, doesn't make them BETTER.

Yes, it was a lesson hard learned.

John McCain is an honorable man but I did not and would not vote for him. Why? I'm a conservative. He's not.

Palin is often mocked for interviews that she's done during the election. When I have seen her on TV it's understandable. Those that watch think that she's the dumbest ass on planet earth, except for W. ;)

Glenn Beck has had her on his radio program long before, during and after the election. She's a conservative. Not a Rino, a conservative.

This perception of being a complete idiot will probably follow her with most viewers. Those of us that have heard her speak without her McCain handlers like what we heard and her record is consistent.

This past election I did not vote because "my guy" McCain didn't deserve to get my vote. Many conservatives that I've spoken to either held their nose and voted for him or didn't vote at all.

Those 24% should just slide on over to the Democratic party. The coming cycles will not garner huge support and more importantly more money for campaigns. That money will most likely come from conservatives for a real, honest to goodness conservative. Sarah Palin is one.

Those Rinos in office now are seeing the tide change and acting or speaking like they are not Dems. They know where the money is. The same as those hard lefty groups and their incredible ability to raise money to get Obama elected.

The thing I don't understand about conservatives - what are they conserving?