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Old 05-16-2007, 10:00 AM   #31
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There's nothing wrong with being pleased that an asshole is no longer around.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:16 AM   #32
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Okay the rapture is complete.

Roll call.
Griff "HERE!" oh oh
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:27 AM   #33
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There's nothing wrong with being pleased that an asshole is no longer around.
Yes, I was. His intolerance, bigotry,playing god. I was wondering what death was like for him. Very morbid I know. I gave an inward shudder that if there is a god I imagine it must be very much against these things.

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Okay the rapture is complete.

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Griff "HERE!" oh oh

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Old 05-16-2007, 10:37 AM   #34
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We shouldn't dance on his grave... oh, what the hell.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:57 AM   #35
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I feel sorry for his family and those who loved him. I don't agree with his philosophy on life, but as Shawnee pointed out, he's dead so let him rest in peace.
Ah, finally, I get to Godwin a thread: would you say the same of, oh, Hitler?
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Old 05-16-2007, 11:12 AM   #36
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Okay the rapture is complete.

Roll call.
Griff "HERE!" oh oh
Griff wins the thread!
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:11 PM   #37
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We shouldn't dance on his grave... oh, what the hell.
No, I don't think so. I think it's better to say, Jerry? Jerry Who? Otherwise the terrorists win.
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Old 05-16-2007, 01:17 PM   #38
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I felt really bad yesterday for having an emotional response that included a stuffed down smurk. I am sure I am one of those evil ones that are going straight to hell.
No worries; you'll be in good company and I'm sure we'll all have one heck of a party (while Falwell watches from the sidelines, trying to figure out where to damn us all to next for having fun).

I grew up about 45 minutes away from Lynchburg and his zealot stronghold of a university. There is something wrong with any learning institution that would discipline adults for holding hands on campus. I always found Falwell to be a bit too totalitarian, and I was able to come to that conclusion at the ripe age of 10!

I admit that I even posted something to my blog titled "the Witch is Dead." I'm not quite sure how that guy schnookered so many people, but I'm glad he's gone. I won't be upset when Pat Robertson is gone either.
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Old 05-16-2007, 02:09 PM   #39
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I'm not quite sure how that guy schnookered so many people
People don't like change. The more responsibilities they acquire,(kids, mortgage, debts) the more unpredictability is unnerving.

The changes in society after WW II up to the late 70s were pretty big and came at a steadily increasing rate.

Falwell promised to turn back or at least slow down the clock. Old time religion, family values and the political/social clout to make it happen. Put the queers back in the closet, keep them niggers in line, get them whores off the TV and out of the movies.

Even the people that didn't totally buy his notions, felt he was a better alternative than letting the world around them deteriorate(change) at the rate it was going.

How's that for a guess?
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:38 PM   #40
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Is it cool now if i openly become a lesbian and practice witchcraft?

Not much will change. Nothing ever does. Except the abortion laws...*sigh*
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:16 PM   #41
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Legacy of this man is not posted. For example, he called Muhammad a terrorist. He suggested that 11 September reflected God's judgment on a nation spiritually weakened by the American Civil Liberties Union, providers of abortion and supporters of gay rights. He openly promoted hate of gay lifestyle and supported Anita Bryant's campaign against gays. He spoke out again Martin Luther King and opposed the civil rights movement. He promoted segregation - claiming that was only because the south was racist. He said he changed when he discovered segregation was wrong in the Bible - as if 400 years of Bible scholars had missed that teaching.

He suggested that Tinky Winky, a character in the "Teletubbies" children's show, could be a hidden homosexual because Tinky Winky was purple, had a triangle on his head, and carried a handbag.

Falwell created (modified) Liberty University and its Law School. The latter's purpose to educate lawyers an exemplary education, from a biblical perspective. IOW to impose God's will on the law ... as if God cannot impose his own will. And of course the Moral Majority where Falwell said to vote only for those how 'stands by the Bible'. Falwell said that religion should not be separated from politics - a reversal of his 1960 opinion.

Underlying Falwell is a belief that morality - his morality - should be imposed upon a nation. He encouraged his followers to impose the will of God. To me - he advocated a Spanish Inquisition upon American civil rights. How can a man so religious at a personal level also be so evil at a national level as to impose his religious beliefs on all others?

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Old 05-16-2007, 07:04 PM   #42
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Ah, finally, I get to Godwin a thread: would you say the same of, oh, Hitler?
I'd say the same about anyone at the time of their death.

Hitler is a historical figure and changed events in the whole world so to discuss him in a historical context to me is fine.

The same would apply to people like Fallwell after his family and loved ones have been given some grace by the greater public.
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:32 PM   #43
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:46 PM   #44
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Ha ha ha...Mr. Hitchens sure doesn't pull any punches.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:41 PM   #45
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Guess who will be in attendance at the funeral?

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WBC to picket the funeral of Rev. Jerry Falwell - at
Thomas Road Baptist Church, Lynchburg, Virginia -
in religious protest and warning: "God is not
mocked!,, Gal. 6:7. God Hates Fags! & Fag-Enablers!
Ergo, God hates Jerry Falwell, Billy Graham, Pat
Robertson, and all such Arminian heretic preachers -
from fundamentalist evangelicals to openly gay
Episcopalians and pedophile Catholics - all of whom
have created the Satanic Sodomite Zeitgeist wherein
America has irreversibly gone the way of Sodom.
Falwell was a "fag enabler"?
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