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Old 07-15-2013, 10:05 PM   #1
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Abolish the DHS?

Some pinko-commie-islamo-liberal at Bloomberg Newsweek reckons the US ought to abolish the department of homeland security.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles...ishing-the-dhs


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Beyond the waste of money and the overregulation, the expansion of the homeland security state has created unnecessary fear among a population that should be able to trust its government to send accurate signals about risk.
Sounds like a darn good idea, to me.
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:16 PM   #2
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Yes but if the US government stops spying on the citizens, that'll just leave the Russians, and we all know what those guys are like!
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Old 07-16-2013, 07:31 AM   #3
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DHS has many branches and not all should be abolished.

The Coast Guard is probably worth its budget, for example.
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:35 AM   #4
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DHS has many branches and not all should be abolished.

The Coast Guard is probably worth its budget, for example.
Damn right, and wildfire smoke jumpers, and FEMA, for all it's warts is needed.
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:43 AM   #5
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But those things existed before they were put under the umbrella of DHS. They could just be moved back to their old departments.
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:52 AM   #6
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Yes, but I didn't see Bloomberg or Zen propose that. They were all like kill it, acting like... well, Homeland security.
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:28 PM   #7
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I believe the U.S. gubmint is about two steps from going full jihad on every right we have.

You know, just to keep us in line safe.
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Old 07-16-2013, 07:46 PM   #8
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But those things existed before they were put under the umbrella of DHS. They could just be moved back to their old departments.
That is in fact the proposal from Bloomberg. Restore the necessary bits to their pre-War-on-Terror forms, and massively trim back the rest, in accordance with evidence based assessment of risk and effectiveness.

Grav, you jut got yourself on The List.
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:36 PM   #9
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I believe the U.S. gubmint is about two steps from going full jihad on every right we have.

You know, just to keep us in line safe.
Could you please explain what you mean by "jihad"?

The greater struggle, the lesser struggle? Holy war? Military action?
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