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Old 08-13-2003, 08:57 PM   #46
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I responded the way I did because I felt her comments were rude and incorrect.

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Her response was basically "you are wrong". Which I'm not, because I've done everything I claim to be possible.

You should get what you give.

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But then something like this happens, where it's my contention that someone needs a lesson in manners. Not only is she sorely mistaken about the state of graphics editing applications, but she doesn't even present this opinion in a civilized manner. At that point, when she is basically calling me ignorant and/or a liar, I feel absolutely no need to remain civil.

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That's the POINT. Whether or not you intended it, your comments came off to me as insulting and essentially calling me a liar and/or ignorant of what we are talking. As I explained in my post to juju, that type of behavior will simply get the same type back.
So, are you saying that you feel it's extremely rude and offensive for someone who doesn't know you to tell you that you're wrong? And you feel like your response was of equal rudeness to hers?

Like I said, I'm not challenging in any way, I just am genuinly curious as to the answers.
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Old 08-13-2003, 09:09 PM   #47
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Here's my quick and dirty attempt. (Photoshop <2 mins.) I made her look pretty fake. It would take a lot of time to rid her of blemishes while still retaining the little subtleties that make her look "real."
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Old 08-13-2003, 09:33 PM   #48
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I love your quote, bmgb!

What steps did you use on your image?
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Old 08-13-2003, 10:09 PM   #49
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I'd hit it.
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Old 08-13-2003, 10:19 PM   #50
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Yeah, but what do you think her price point is?
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Old 08-13-2003, 10:33 PM   #51
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I love your quote, bmgb!

What steps did you use on your image?
The quote is an old favorite of mine.

I used the "smart blur" on the photo a couple times. Then I took the blur tool and blurred out the very few little pitted areas that were left.
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Old 08-13-2003, 10:39 PM   #52
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I guessed wrong. I was thinking that you had used gaussian blur then unsharp mask.
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Old 08-13-2003, 11:25 PM   #53
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When my Power Mac starts booting, I will. (I believe the hard drive died Saturday and I have been too busy to look at it.)
That'd be the motherboard, Bob. They estimate 2 weeks repair. So hold your horses.
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Old 08-13-2003, 11:31 PM   #54
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So, are you saying that you feel it's extremely rude and offensive for someone who doesn't know you to tell you that you're wrong? And you feel like your response was of equal rudeness to hers?
I've been over this. I intentionally used qualifiers to clarify what I meant. She implied I was lying and/or ignorant of photo manipulation without bothering to ask what my qualifications were (or whether or not iPhoto could actually do that). It is typical of a "better than you" attitude that is prevalent online. When I see it, and I am capable of acting in the same manner, I do.

My response was undoubtedly more rude than hers. This is called <b>escalation</b>. My first two posts on the thread weren't rude at all; then she escalated, and I further escalated. It's kinda like, when you're standing there, minding your business, and some asshole punches you in the face. So you punch them back, even harder, hoping to get them thinking "Hey, being an asshole to this asshole isn't really worth my time."
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Old 08-14-2003, 12:16 AM   #55
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I see. So you're being mean in order to convince people to be nice to you.

This may sound like an odd comment, but I really do find that to be a fascinating interpersonal strategy. And I don't mean that sarcastically at all.
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Old 08-14-2003, 07:00 AM   #56
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Why can't we all just get along?
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Old 08-14-2003, 07:11 AM   #57
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Too bad about your motherboard dave, convenient for you too.
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Old 08-14-2003, 08:32 AM   #58
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Too bad about your motherboard dave, convenient for you too.
Pretty inconvenient, actually, since I do just about everything on that machine. It started acting up on Friday and totally went out on Sunday. (And I even have two eye-witnesses!)
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Old 08-14-2003, 09:12 AM   #59
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Annie, I'm sure you can do much better without the 20 second constraint, but you made that chick look like Michael Jackson!

And this retouching guy may be a digital photo whiz, but a web designer he ain't. Good God, I can't possibly think of a more annoying background image than that on his homepage.

And animated backgrounds are just plain evil, folks.
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Old 08-14-2003, 09:26 AM   #60
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OMG! You're right!

I'm used to working in newsprint and compensating for a minimum of 25% press gain, but still it's no excuse for making the poor woman look like the "King of Plop"

(I also thought she ended up a little like Delta Burke, personally, but "overdoing" things is one of my weaknesses.)
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