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Old 08-09-2012, 11:53 AM   #16
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I agree that what Reid di was wrong. I hate anonymous sourcees stories.

However, Romney DOES need to release his tax statements just like every other candidate has done.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:14 PM   #17
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Romney is one of the most secretive characters to run for president since the days of Richard Nixon. Romney is obviously covering up questionable acts or even out right malfeasance. If the man didn't have something to hide, the Romney campaign would release his tax records going back to kindergarten and gleefully shout, "See? Pure as the driven snow just like Moroni wants us to be."

The silence is damning.

Plus, Romney has been quoted more than once stating that he will not go into detail on any proposed policy changes he might make if elected to the White House. Why is that you may ask?

Well, Virginia that's a very good question. Romney answers it by coming right out and admitting that if he told the truth about what he plans to do, it would turn many voters against him.

At least he admits to that much.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:32 PM   #18
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Lol ...



wait what? thats not Fox.
Umm...sorry for the misunderstanding. I was being tongue-in-cheek about Reid.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:35 PM   #19
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If the man didn't have something to hide, the Romney campaign would release his tax records going back to kindergarten and gleefully shout, "See? Pure as the driven snow just like Moroni wants us to be."
However, what may be "pure" for the elite upper class may not be "pure" for the rest of us.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:10 PM   #20
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Also, what may be "pure" for everyone else may not be "pure" for the angel Moroni. The tithe accountants at LDS central may notice discrepancies if they see his true income.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:35 PM   #21
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Pedophile, huh? Pretty fancy word for a 12 year old.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:54 PM   #22
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i wouldnt fuck him with somebody elses kid.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:46 PM   #23
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Romney is one of the most secretive characters to run for president since the days of Richard Nixon. Romney is obviously covering up questionable acts or even out right malfeasance. If the man didn't have something to hide, the Romney campaign would release his tax records going back to kindergarten and gleefully shout, "See? Pure as the driven snow just like Moroni wants us to be."

The silence is damning.

Plus, Romney has been quoted more than once stating that he will not go into detail on any proposed policy changes he might make if elected to the White House. Why is that you may ask?

Well, Virginia that's a very good question. Romney answers it by coming right out and admitting that if he told the truth about what he plans to do, it would turn many voters against him.

At least he admits to that much.
1) As a matter of fact, Romney has released the tax records required. He does not want to release more than that, because he knows that the democrats would continue to make up "something" in his return, to use as political ammunition.

The MOST secretive president has been Obama, since he had all his previous academic records sealed, from every college he went to, (three), as well as his work records for every job he's ever held, before becoming a senator. You may recall that even his long form birth certificate, was sealed!

If you know Romney, you know one thing - he's an honest guy. A typical "let me talk out this side of my mouth today, and the other side tomorrow", politician, he is not.

2) What Romney will do as president, is in large part determined by:

a) The events at that time. If Iran and Israel go to war, and the rest of the middle east joins in, that will change Romney's actions.

As Mr. Lincoln stated once "I freely confess that I have not controlled events, but it is the events that have controlled me." (loosely quoted I'm sure).

b) What Romney can do depends on what party is in control of the House of Rep., and the Senate. That all important make up will not be known until AFTER the election, of course.

c) Obama's biggest failure is the economy, and the way he has spent trillions of dollars we don't have, to try and fix it - which has not worked. His budgets have been so bad, that NO ONE (NOT ONE) senator would vote for it, in either of the last two years.

This is the worst recovery we've ever had, in the US.

Knowing this, Romney has no need to give a detailed "what I will do as president" list. He needs to keep his own counsel right now, so the democrats have very little to "chew on" and maybe "swiftboat" him with.

To put it succinctly, in Romney, we have a stellar businessman, who not only clearly knows how businesses work, but how to rescue them, as well.

We've never had a smarter businessman/politician, as president. You can say all you want about Obama's policies, but the area he worked in as a community organizer in Chicago, is in fact, poorer and more crime ridden today, with lower educational attainment, than it was 20 years ago.

If America decides to be a more socialist country, then we need to FIRST make some important changes to our country - and in our attitudes - something like what Germany has done. (Germany is a very successful, but somewhat socialist, country). Otherwise, we will wind up on the slag heap like Spain, France, Italy, Greece, etc., which are all going broke.

As Margaret Thatcher once quipped" Socialism works great, until the money runs out." (again, loosely quoted, I'm sure).

Obama's thrust has seemingly been to help the poor - but we have more people on welfare programs now, than ever before. He can tax the rich until they're wearing rain barrels for clothes, but that will NOT fix a $58,000 per second *DEBT*, that we are currently running up. Won't really make a big dent in it. All that "tax the filthy rich" stuff is 99% "look at this!, so you won't look at my stinking record".

Because Obama can't possibly run on his record. By his very own standards he has given us, he has failed. He and Jimmy Carter (another very decent human being who had no idea of how to run a federal government), are two of the worst presidents, in modern U.S. history. (Wearing sweaters inside and turning the thermostat down to 68 degree's (a Jimmy Carter idea), will not give us the energy we need to run our factories and our manufacturing businesses.)

And they can't run on wind or solar energy, at this time. Alternative energy still (even after hundreds of billions of investment dollars), amount to less than 10% of our energy needs.

Should Mitt be elected, you'll see how swiftly the economy will start REALLY recovering. Having lived through several bust and boom cycles, I can tell you it's fun to watch it sprouting up like a wonderful weed, and the smiles it puts on everyone's face.

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Old 09-05-2012, 11:47 PM   #24
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Sounds like Wonderland.

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Old 09-05-2012, 11:53 PM   #25
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Hey Adak!

You're wrong in about every paragraph there. I'll point out your mistakes more specifically tomorrow.

See you then!
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:05 AM   #26
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Now now Big V, 2a was probably true, just the rest is fucked up.
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Old 09-06-2012, 06:34 AM   #27
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There's no need to worry about finding the energy to power factories. Romney and his mates at Bain Capital have closed most of them down.

Seriously, this Rolling Stone article ( http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...pital-20120829 ) lays it out pretty well. They got rich by wrecking, not by building.

IMHO, the Romney/Ryan ticket is the epitome of what is wrong with the USA today.
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:21 AM   #28
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If you know Romney, you know one thing - he's an honest guy. A typical "let me talk out this side of my mouth today, and the other side tomorrow", politician, he is not.
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:25 AM   #29
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*snickers*

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Old 09-07-2012, 02:02 AM   #30
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Michael Milken... Mitt Romney... Gordon Gekko.
Quasi-legal, and morally bankrupt.
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