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Old 05-24-2013, 02:31 AM   #601
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I would sink that thing.
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Old 05-24-2013, 05:58 AM   #602
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I like the concept but wonder if that is really the right material? I suppose its UV protected so it may not get brittle right away. I can't picture it handling the normal use rock hits and scrapes. Maybe my normal use isn't normal.
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:59 AM   #603
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So long as it comes with a few rolls of duct tape, all should be well.
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:12 AM   #604
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I have friends who've built a number of houses and out building using cordwood and strawbale construction. They will swear up and down that it is the best, cheapest, quickest way to make a building. While those building have many merits, best, cheapest, and quickest aren't among them.

If that were true, no one would be stick framing houses any longer. There's a reason conventional framing hasn't changed much in a couple of hundred years.
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:38 AM   #605
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Have you ever seen the crates they use at the Post Office? They are made of the same corrugated plastic. It's very durable and lightweight stuff. Those crates get kicked or dragged across concrete floors while full of packages. Next time you see one, look at the bottom corners for wear and imagine the constant abuse they get.

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Old 05-24-2013, 08:37 AM   #606
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But what is the life expectancy of one of those crates? Although you see them all the time I don't think you are seeing the same crate for very long.

They are cool and all, but I don't think they will last nearly as long as another kayak conventionally built at the same price. Great to have in your trunk for impromptu kayaking though, I think that's where these certainly shine, not to compete with car toppers.
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Old 05-24-2013, 09:07 AM   #607
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Actually, I think they are competing directly with Folbot, which is a foldable skin on frame style of kayak. I think they are probably better than Folbot because they are slightly lighter and much cheaper and much less complicated to assemble. The Folbot Kiawah seems to be the closest match, and it's $1,449. Check out the Folbot assembly videos. Assembly of a Folboat is really pretty involved.

Durability is a big question mark. I think in 5 years there will be enough data to know if these are any good.
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:12 AM   #608
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We bought our (17 ft) Folbot in 1975 for about $600,
and it's still in use each year... on lakes and "calm" rivers.

The current models have improvements on weight and
ease of assembly, but ours fits in the 2 bags shown in this pic.
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:43 AM   #609
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That's cool! How do you like it?
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:15 PM   #610
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Obviously, we do like it...

The link you posted for the video of assembly of the Greenland model shows the main problem
... it is somewhat complicated and time-consuming.
Ours is sort of heavy and awkward, and it's easier for 2 people to share the carrying of the two bags.

Cross winds are the biggest issue in actual use.
The newer models have rudders (optional ?), but not ours.
Otherwise, we feel the wide bottom makes it a very safe craft.

But we still never allow a kid to take it out without an adult,
It has never been overturned in the water, even during the few battles of "water-warfare".
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Old 07-12-2013, 03:17 PM   #611
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:00 PM   #612
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Cross winds are the biggest issue in actual use.
The newer models have rudders (optional ?), but not ours.
Otherwise, we feel the wide bottom makes it a very safe craft.
could you add a side-board for open water?
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:18 PM   #613
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Old 07-13-2013, 12:21 AM   #614
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could you add a side-board for open water?
xoB, actually I think there is such an accessory for the newer models.

But OTOH, Folbots were used in the Artic and by the German military,
and elsewhere around the world in earlier days, so they do go most anywhere, even built as mine.
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