The economics of selling a paperback book online

SteveDallas • Jan 20, 2006 7:06 pm
So, as I've mentioned before and as I'm sure everybody has been losing sleep over, I have a bunch of books that I'm trying to get rid of. A lot of what I have is not worth a lot in terms of what it can be sold for online. But I did manage to pull a dozen or so items that are obviously worth my while if they sell. The goal is to get rid of them, but also to bring in some cash, so I'm gritting my teeth at some things. (I sold a book on Mayan history for $3. Now, why the hell would people sell a hardback for $3-$4 when the paperback is selling for $10-$12?? But of course if I had listed for $10 it wouldn't have sold, at least not as long as other people were undercutting it.)

Anyways, the lowest organism on the food chain here is the mass market paperback book. The vast majority of these are being sold on half.com for $0.75. My question is, at that price, is it worthwhile to sell? Half.com will take a 15% commission, leaving me with $0.63, plus a shipping allowance of $2.40 for a paperback book. For one pound or less media mail is $1.59. This leaves us with a net $1.44 after paying for postage.

That's not horrible, but you can't just drop the book in a mailbox. You also have to package it in some reasonable way. So what's the cheapest acceptable shipping envelope? Staples brand bubble mailers run about $1 each or so in small quantities, which wipes out a LOT of profit. Can I do better than that somewhere else? Do I really want to buy a bunch of envelopes in bulk to do this?

(For that matter is there any better place to sell? Amazon marketplace charges $0.99 per transaction plus a percentage unless you subscribe to their selling service, plus a $2.49 shipping allowance--how are people making any money selling stuff for $0.01 there?? Ebay is not attractive for this purpose. abebooks.com takes only an 8% commission, but wants $25 per month, which I guess is quite reasonable for somebody operating a used bookstore, but isn't helpful for somebody like me who just has 3 or 4 boxes of books he wants to move.)
Beestie • Jan 20, 2006 7:33 pm
I donated mine to the local library and wrote them off at their original cost. The time and hassle I avoided was worth it.
SteveDallas • Jan 20, 2006 7:42 pm
Our local library is currently turning away donations because they have more than they can handle. And none of the local used bookstores are buying.
Griff • Jan 20, 2006 7:53 pm
I've been thinking about getting rid of a mess of paperbacks but I wonder if maybe we should just list books we have and trade them on the cellar.
busterb • Jan 20, 2006 8:26 pm
Here if library dosen't want them, trash truck runs on Wensday. I feel the pain also about what I think are a good read. I have books about electronics and pipe design that I paid big money for. I'll never use again, but would be glad to give to someone who might use them.
SteveDallas • Jan 20, 2006 8:30 pm
I just can't bring myself to throw out an actual book. I wouldn't mind giving them away somewhere.
BigV • Jan 20, 2006 9:32 pm
You may find an answer to your problem in this book. I do not think you'll like the answer, though.
Ether42 • Jan 21, 2006 12:03 am
this brings up a big past time of mine keeping old books i will proably never read i have a 13 foot high bookshelf full of books with about 4 feet of books stacked up in front of it i just can't bring myself to throw them away
i keep all books in the hope of being able to give them away to one of my friends or relatives


but back on topic
here are a few ideas
1. wallpaper
2. toilet paper
3. rolling papers
4. cheap winter heating
5. throw them at unruly neighbors (think what war and peace could do to that son of a bitch across the way)
6. are you short you could tie them to your shoes (once again with war and peace you could be fit to play in the nba)
7. help local bums with there winter heating
or my favorite
8. wave them in front of children to poor to buy there own books
(thus making you feel rich and powerful)
seakdivers • Jan 21, 2006 12:49 am
Steve, you can actually get boxes from the usps for free. Go to their website, and you can "order" priority mail boxes at no cost (any size to boot). Just cut a few slits, turn them inside out, re-tape, and you have a plain ol cardboard box to send stuff in. I get stuff off ebay like that all the time.
The only warning is that once you have "ordered" stuff from the usps, you won't stop getting new shipments (including stuff you didn't even ask for). You gotta look under the business section of the website.
Here's a link:
http://shop.usps.com/cgi-bin/vsbv/postal_store_non_ssl/display_products/productCategory.jsp?prodCat=/Shipping+Supplies/Priority+Mail
busterb • Jan 21, 2006 2:04 am
Why don't we just trade books or what ever here ? If I list my books that someone might like, you pay postage and shit they belong to you? Huh?
wolf • Jan 21, 2006 2:06 am
You can go to the post office and just take the priority mail boxes. They usually have them near the counter. That way you end up with as many as you need. The size that are best for books are not preassembled ... a little not-so-creative folding and you're good to go.
wolf • Jan 21, 2006 2:08 am
Any hospitals near you? Sometimes they'll take donated books. Another good choice for orphaned books is bookcrossing.com which is sort of a Where's George for books.

A friend of mine who regularly uses public transit sometimes acts as my book mule, bringing and replacing books from the free to a good home pile at the Paoli Train Station.
Tonchi • Jan 21, 2006 3:38 am
You practically gave away a book on MAYAN HISTORY and didn't tell me???! :bawling: I have a huge library of Mesoamerican art and history/mythology books, why didn't you let me know? Are you hoarding anything else like that?
Undertoad • Jan 21, 2006 5:21 am
I have a huge number of empty boxes, perhaps we should list our boxes here on the Cellar so we can trade appropriately-sized ones.
Griff • Jan 21, 2006 7:29 am
Undertoad wrote:
I have a huge number of empty boxes, perhaps we should list our boxes here on the Cellar so we can trade appropriately-sized ones.

Point taken. Maybe I should just keep boxes of paperbacks by the fireplace.
Undertoad • Jan 21, 2006 7:35 am
I'm just funnin' ya buddy
Griff • Jan 21, 2006 7:38 am
Sometimes I need a common sense booster. :)
SteveDallas • Jan 21, 2006 9:36 am
BigV wrote:
You may find an answer to your problem in this book.

ether42 wrote:
here are a few ideas
1. wallpaper
2. toilet paper

undertoad wrote:
I have a huge number of empty boxes, perhaps we should list our boxes here on the Cellar so we can trade appropriately-sized ones.

What a bunch of smartasses!!! :lol2: Thank you for your kind suggestions.

I have never considered using the priority mail boxes for this because you have to use priority mail postage on them, which isn't in the budget. re-folding the boxes to put the printed side inside seems just evil. I'll have to give it a try. (Not only evil, but so obvious I wouldn't be surprised if the USPS started printing something on the insides.)
monster • Jan 21, 2006 11:06 pm
Just leave them lying around places -in coffee shops, on park benches (on dry days) with a note saying "please take me and read me and pass me on" or something like that. What about the homeless and domestic violence shelters? They might want them.

You can get suitable bubble envelopes 4/$1 in dollar stores, btw.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 21, 2006 11:15 pm
(Not only evil, but so obvious I wouldn't be surprised if the USPS started printing something on the insides.)
Spray paint. :D
wolf • Jan 22, 2006 1:08 am
While fun in an enclosed, poorly ventilated space, I recommend duct tape.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 22, 2006 7:53 am
Not when you're paying postage by weight.......even at book rates, which are cheap. :headshake
BigV • Jan 25, 2006 12:36 pm
In all seriousness, SteveDallas, you should check out bookcrossing.com. Here's an excerpt of their mission. I find it highly admirable, and I think it deserves consideration given your description of the circumstances here.

What is BookCrossing?

bookcrossing
n. the practice of leaving a book in a public place to be picked up and read by others, who then do likewise.

(added to the Concise Oxford English Dictionary in August 2004)



The "3 Rs" of BookCrossing...

1. Read a good book (you already know how to do that)
2. Register it here (along with your journal comments), get a unique BCID (BookCrossing ID number), and label the book
3. Release it for someone else to read (give it to a friend, leave it on a park bench, donate it to charity, "forget" it in a coffee shop, etc.), and get notified by email each time someone comes here and records journal entries for that book. And if you make Release Notes on the book, others can Go Hunting for it and try to find it!

SteveDallas • Sep 19, 2007 12:51 pm
Undertoad;205293 wrote:
I have a huge number of empty boxes, perhaps we should list our boxes here on the Cellar so we can trade appropriately-sized ones.

Ask, and ye shall receive.

http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/001885.php