Worth 10 Points!!!

Trilby • Jan 6, 2006 3:36 pm
Math prof (title of class: Math for people who Hate Math and will Not be Math Majors and Promise to Never Hold Positions Requiring Math Competency-Ever) gave us this problem, worth ten actual points, to anyone who can solve it: HELP ME! (Yes, I'm begging.)

You buy 100 lbs of cucumbers. Cukes are 99% water. In a few days they later dry out to 98% water. How much do they weigh?

Oral sex to anyone who can give me the CORRECT answer.
Trilby • Jan 6, 2006 3:40 pm
My first intuitive answer is that they still weigh 100 lbs.


That's just my FIRST THOUGHT and we all know I am NOT responsible for my FIRST thought.
Trilby • Jan 6, 2006 3:49 pm
GD it!!!!!!!!

I googled it and NO ONE will tell me the answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gd math!!!


(lack of response to thread indicates: A)--no one cares about me
B) NO ONE KNOWS THE ANSWER!!
Spexxvet • Jan 6, 2006 3:54 pm
Brianna wrote:
Math prof (title of class: Math for people who Hate Math and will Not be Math Majors and Promise to Never Hold Positions Requiring Math Competency-Ever) gave us this problem, worth ten actual points, to anyone who can solve it: HELP ME! (Yes, I'm begging.)

You buy 100 lbs of cucumbers. Cukes are 99% water. In a few days they later dry out to 98% water. How much do they weigh?

Oral sex to anyone who can give me the CORRECT answer.


They originally weigh 100 lbs, 99 lbs of which is water. They loose 1% of their water weight, which is .99 lbs, so the water represents 98.01 lbs. Add to that the weight of the non-water portion of the cucumbers (1 lb) and the weight of the cucumbers after a few days is 98.01 + 1 = 99.01 lbs. But the answer might just as easily be Belgium. I'm feeling a woody already!
beavis • Jan 6, 2006 3:54 pm
http://www.foodreference.com/html/fcucumber.html

this page says they are 95% water. i say it's a trick question and you should be awarded full credit.
barefoot serpent • Jan 6, 2006 3:58 pm
are you even sure that they are cucumbers?





(we have armadillos in our trousers)
Trilby • Jan 6, 2006 4:03 pm
barefoot serpent wrote:
are you even sure that they are cucumbers?





(we have armadillos in our trousers)



I love men.
sktzofrenic • Jan 6, 2006 4:10 pm
:worried: :yum:
Trilby • Jan 6, 2006 4:27 pm
not the answer I am looking for.


Think up!!!
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 6, 2006 4:31 pm
So when does "Spexxvet,Be Gentle" get the reward?
Can I watch? Take pictures? :cool:
Trilby • Jan 6, 2006 4:33 pm
did he win?
Undertoad • Jan 6, 2006 4:38 pm
He lost, I googled it, it's a tricky thing, I won't give it away.
Happy Monkey • Jan 6, 2006 4:41 pm
50lb (no googling)
Radar • Jan 6, 2006 4:45 pm
If you've got 100 lbs that is 99% water, it means you've got 99lbs of water and 1 lb of solid cucumber mass. So if you lose 1% of the water, you're losing 1% of 99lbs.

99 x .01 = .99 lbs.

99 - .99 = 98.01 lbs

This means you have 1 lbs of solid cucumber mass plus 98.01 lbs of water for a grand total of 99.01 lbs.
Happy Monkey • Jan 6, 2006 4:46 pm
You're not losing 1% of the water.
Radar • Jan 6, 2006 4:50 pm
Going from 99% water to 98% water is a loss of 1% of the water.
Happy Monkey • Jan 6, 2006 4:52 pm
No it isn't.
Happy Monkey • Jan 6, 2006 4:59 pm
Here's the work:

[color=white]To start with, 99% water is 99lb/(99lb + 1 lb).[/color]
[color=white][/color]
[color=white]Make 99lb a variable: x/(x+1)[/color]
[color=white]Set to 98%: x/(x+1) = 0.98[/color]
[color=white]Solve for x:[/color]
[color=white]x = 0.98x + 0.98[/color]
[color=white]0.02x = 0.98[/color]
[color=white]x = 98/2 = 49[/color]
[color=white][/color]
[color=white]Total weight is 49 + 1 = 50lb[/color]
monster • Jan 6, 2006 5:00 pm
Happy Monkey wrote:
50lb (no googling)


I agree.

If they are 99% water, then you have 99lb of water and 1lb of pure cucumber.

A few days later, you still have 1lb of pure cucumber, but now that is 2% of the whole, as they are now 98% water.

So if 1lb is 2%, then the whole lot must weight 50lb.
Happy Monkey • Jan 6, 2006 5:00 pm
monster's explanation is better.
monster • Jan 6, 2006 5:03 pm
Happy Monkey wrote:
monster's explanation is better.


:blush: Why thank you. You posted first though (by seconds.... ) :lol:
lumberjim • Jan 6, 2006 5:04 pm
looks like happy monkey is gonna have a happier monkey!
monster • Jan 6, 2006 5:08 pm
lumberjim wrote:
looks like happy monkey is gonna have a happier monkey!


:lol:

cheeky monkey!
Happy Monkey • Jan 6, 2006 5:16 pm
Unfortunately, I'm the only man Brianna doesn't like!
:worried:
SteveDallas • Jan 6, 2006 5:31 pm
Happy Monkey wrote:
Unfortunately, I'm the only man Brianna doesn't like!
:worried:

Are you SURE about that? :biggrinje
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 6, 2006 6:38 pm
Brianna wrote:
snip~~
Oral sex to anyone who can give me the CORRECT answer.
Where doe's it say she has to like you? :eyebrow:
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 6, 2006 6:40 pm
Undertoad wrote:
He lost, I googled it, it's a tricky thing, I won't give it away.
How did you do that? I found the problem but not the solution.What did you input to Google? :confused:
Undertoad • Jan 6, 2006 6:52 pm
cucumbers 99% 98% water weigh

returns

http://www.ajnpx.com/html/Math/IntroAlgebra/IntroAlgebraMain.html

The 98% 99% is all the difference, making the search very specific.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 6, 2006 7:19 pm
Hm. I tried;

You buy 100 lbs of cucumbers. Cukes are 99% water. In a few days they later dry out to 98% water. How much do they weigh?

100 lbs of cucumbers 99% water dry out to 98% water. How much do they weigh?

Marilyn Vos Savant's cucumber problem.

Marilyn Vos Savant's 99% to 98% cucumber problem.
:smack:
Trilby • Jan 6, 2006 9:15 pm
thank you, all you nerds! Kisses!!!!!
capnhowdy • Jan 6, 2006 10:16 pm
The problem asks "how much do they weigh", not how much WILL they weigh.They weigh 100 lbs. Dammit.
tw • Jan 6, 2006 10:40 pm
Brianna wrote:
You buy 100 lbs of cucumbers. Cukes are 99% water. In a few days they later dry out to 98% water. How much do they weigh?

Oral sex to anyone who can give me the CORRECT answer.
100 lbs of cucumbers that are 99% water. If cucumber loses water volume, then cucumber is 98% water - by volume. For every cubic foot of 'pure cucumber', we once had 99 cubic feet of water; but now only have 49 cubic feet of water. Still we don't know how much the cucumber weighs because we don't know weight densities.

For example if 99 cubic feet of water weighed 1 pound, then 'pure cucumber' weights 99 pounds. Therefore we have reduced weight from 100 pounds to 99.495 lbs. However if 'pure cucumber' is 10 pounds and 99 cubic feet of water is 90 pounds, then we have reduced cucumber to 54.54 pounds.


To accomplish same assuming 99% water 'by weight' - not by volume. 100 lbs of cucumber is 99 lbs water and 1 lbs 'pure cucumber'. When partially dried, then 1 lbs of pure cucumber remains. To be 98% water (by weight), then 1 lbs cucumber is mixed with 49 lbs water. This time we have eliminated 50 lbs of water or more than 50% of that water - by weight and by volume.

Problem forgot to define percentage in terms of volume or weight - or time. 'Do' is a time before the drying or after the drying? Classic examples of perspective perversion. Therefore only Rush Limbaugh - who is good at providing answers by conventiently making assumptions and forgetting facts - could have answered the question.

Oral sex. Does that mean I get a phone call? Another question of missing information - perspective.
zippyt • Jan 7, 2006 2:23 am
Ok Folks's ,,,

Here ya go ,
What weighs more , a pound of Gold or a Pound of lead ??? :rolleyes:
wolf • Jan 7, 2006 2:44 am
Aw, that's easy. But which one falls faster if you drop it off the Empire State Building?
capnhowdy • Jan 7, 2006 9:22 am
Reminds me.....
If eggs were twelve cents a dozen, how much would a hundred eggs be?
Trilby • Jan 7, 2006 9:38 am
ok, before we go on to further mind-blowing questions: which of the above answers to the Cuke Problem is correct???? This is for TEN POINTS!

does anybody else think it's cute that tw answered the question? I think it's adorable!!
richlevy • Jan 7, 2006 10:27 am
Brianna wrote:
ok, before we go on to further mind-blowing questions: which of the above answers to the Cuke Problem is correct???? This is for TEN POINTS!

does anybody else think it's cute that tw answered the question? I think it's adorable!!
I checked and the 50 pound answer is correct. I intend to offer my college student son $5 if he can give me the answer. Of course, you can sweeten the pot if you like.Image

At least I'll know his Internet search skills are good.
dar512 • Jan 7, 2006 4:16 pm
Brianna wrote:
ok, before we go on to further mind-blowing questions: which of the above answers to the Cuke Problem is correct???? This is for TEN POINTS!

does anybody else think it's cute that tw answered the question? I think it's adorable!!

The problem statement makes it implicit that the criteria is by weight. TW just likes to make things more difficult.

However, you might get extra credit by showing that you at least considered the alternative volume criteria. Unless you think the teacher will pull your paper completely for getting help from your buddies.
tw • Jan 7, 2006 5:08 pm
Brianna wrote:
does anybody else think it's cute that tw answered the question? I think it's adorable!!
It was the 'carrot' - oral sex - that attracted my curiosity. Still wondering how that will occur. Or was there also something ‘implicit’ in that reward?
Trilby • Jan 7, 2006 5:34 pm
the mere fact that tw was/is interested in getting oral sex was what really threw me. I can only imagine his 'sex' talk.

PS--does tw win? did he come up with the answer first? If he did--I'm prepared to pay up!
richlevy • Jan 7, 2006 6:32 pm
Brianna wrote:
the mere fact that tw was/is interested in getting oral sex was what really threw me. I can only imagine his 'sex' talk.
He's the only guy I know who will check to make sure there isn't an STD or an MBA!Image

'Yes, I can see here that you were a Penthouse Pet of the Year, but where did you go to college?'

'Harvard Business School'

'NEXT!'
SteveDallas • Jan 7, 2006 7:40 pm
richlevy wrote:
'Yes, I can see here that you were a Penthouse Pet of the Year, but where did you go to college?'

'Harvard Business School'

'NEXT!'

COOKIE!!!!!
Elspode • Jan 7, 2006 7:41 pm
Good lord...if answering a math question gets you oral sex, what do you get with a nice dinner, a movie and flowers?
Rock Steady • Jan 7, 2006 8:15 pm
Brianna wrote:
Oral sex to anyone who can give me the CORRECT answer.


You didn't say just the FIRST to give you the correct answer. Anyone.

50 lbs.

Call me at your convenience, sweetie. :love:
capnhowdy • Jan 7, 2006 11:24 pm
OK..... 50 lbs is cool w/me.

from Dumb and Dumber:
You mean there's a chance?


:love:
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 8, 2006 12:48 am
Christ, Brianna, if you read the whole thread and still can't figure out the right answer you don't deserve the 10 points. :headshake
tw • Jan 8, 2006 12:49 am
Elspode wrote:
Good lord...if answering a math question gets you oral sex, ...
Why did Richard Feynman always have that devilish smile on his face?
tw • Jan 8, 2006 12:50 am
Brianna wrote:
the mere fact that tw was/is interested in getting oral sex was what really threw me.
Did you really think I was interested in the cucumber?
Rock Steady • Jan 8, 2006 1:23 am
tw wrote:
Did you really think I was interested in the cucumber?


But, why do you think oral sex involves a carrot?
LabRat • Jan 8, 2006 11:05 am
:smack: Why didn't I know the Cellar when I was taking MY stupid gen ed math class? All those wasted sexual favors on wrong answers...

BTW, sorry, don't have a clue as to the real answer, I have lost my patience with brain teasers of this sort since said math class.
tw. • Jan 8, 2006 11:49 am
Rock Steady wrote:
But, why do you think oral sex involves a carrot?


carrot does not equal oral. carrot equals anal. you must be an mba. brianna makes my diodes tingle.
Trilby • Jan 8, 2006 11:54 am
LabRat wrote:
:smack: Why didn't I know the Cellar when I was taking MY stupid gen ed math class? All those wasted sexual favors on wrong answers...


See? I'm not as dumb as you think!

and, tw., right back atcha.
Undertoad • Jan 8, 2006 12:16 pm
But if you understand those kinds of problems, you can apply your math understanding to real-world problems too. For example, on Friday I developed this strange brain teaser. The math is easy, let's see if you can do it:

Suppose you have a music distribution co-operative where new artists are charged $500 as a one-time lifetime fee for being a part of it.

Suppose this co-operative realizes this model is wrong for most artists, and wants to change it to a monthly membership fee.

Under the old system, 20 artists per month sign up at $500 one-time fee, bringing in $10000 per month. The operation needs this $10000 per month to survive. Under the new system, artists will be charged $29.95 per month. Assuming the new plan brings in 35 artists per month:

A) How many months will it be before it turns a profit?
B) How much cash will the operation lose before it turns a profit?

Now the extra credit.

Most artists have two CDs to distribute, which requires no small amount of work to put into the system. Some artists have 10, which is a burden. Suppose that each artist is charged $50 one time per CD to add their CD to the system. Suppose that the average artist has 2.5 CDs. Now how long will it take?
LabRat • Jan 8, 2006 12:22 pm
In my job, I figure something out once, double check the answer, then WRITE THE WHOLE THING DOWN, so I don't have to figure it out again. SO there. :)
Rock Steady • Jan 8, 2006 1:58 pm
tw. wrote:
carrot does not equal oral. carrot equals anal. you must be an mba. brianna makes my diodes tingle.


No, I'm a lingustics engineer and I read your words more carefully than you write them.
Spexxvet • Jan 9, 2006 5:47 pm
Brianna, don't believe everything you read on the net.
Happy Monkey • Jan 9, 2006 6:15 pm
Especially this sentence.
mrnoodle • Jan 9, 2006 6:20 pm
Undertoad wrote:
But if you understand those kinds of problems, you can apply your math understanding to real-world problems too. For example, on Friday I developed this strange brain teaser. The math is easy, let's see if you can do it:

Suppose you have a music distribution co-operative where new artists are charged $500 as a one-time lifetime fee for being a part of it.

Suppose this co-operative realizes this model is wrong for most artists, and wants to change it to a monthly membership fee.

Under the old system, 20 artists per month sign up at $500 one-time fee, bringing in $10000 per month. The operation needs this $10000 per month to survive. Under the new system, artists will be charged $29.95 per month. Assuming the new plan brings in 35 artists per month:

A) How many months will it be before it turns a profit?
B) How much cash will the operation lose before it turns a profit?

Now the extra credit.

Most artists have two CDs to distribute, which requires no small amount of work to put into the system. Some artists have 10, which is a burden. Suppose that each artist is charged $50 one time per CD to add their CD to the system. Suppose that the average artist has 2.5 CDs. Now how long will it take?


I suck at math, but knowing the starving artist bit pretty well, I'd say you'd have a better chance of getting $500 out of a band in one shot than you would over the course of several $30 payments. People save up for something that's $500, but when they're $30 short at the end of the month...

But I don't know business, either -- what's the bottom line difference between having to handle music for 1500 artists who pay $30 and handling music for 100 artists who pay $500? Doesn't the lessened workload make the latter more appealing?

Sorry for the hijack -- we now return you to your regularly scheduled math problem.....
Undertoad • Jan 9, 2006 6:30 pm
It doesn't matter now, because the lack of income from the current plan, combined with the general failure of the Melody Mill idea, means there's only enough money in the business to pay Undertoad to work technical problems, and not business-plan problems.

I've been downgraded from part-time employee to contractor, which bottom-line means about half the money and half the hours.

So much for not hijacking...?
Rock Steady • Jan 10, 2006 12:49 am
Well, it seems that people are still confused. This "math problem" is a marketing scam.

Try this instead:

You buy 100 lbs of cucumbers. Cukes are 1% solids. In a few days they later dry out to 2% solids. How much do they weigh?

Even before all this math bullshit, I've already had aural sex with Brianna. It's really great. I'm totally in love. :faint:
seakdivers • Jan 10, 2006 1:46 am
Carrot...... anal..??

*shivers*

eeeewwww......
SteveDallas • Jan 10, 2006 2:11 am
Undertoad wrote:
Buppose this co-operative realizes this model is wrong for most artists

I don't feel like doing the math, I just wanted to say you make it sound like the Borg. :borg:

undertoad wrote:
Most artists have two CDs to distribute, which requires no small amount of work to put into the system.

I'm curious, what exactly is the labor-intensive bit? (I'm assuming that the artist shows up with the recording already made.) When you say "put into the system" you make it sound like ripping the CD, but I'm sure there's more to it than that.
Crimson Ghost • Jan 10, 2006 4:01 am
If a train leaves LA doing 125 MPH, and another train leaves NYC doing 130 MPH, how long will it take for Steven Segal to kill the terrorists and get the girl?
Crimson Ghost • Jan 10, 2006 4:04 am
Elspode wrote:
Good lord...if answering a math question gets you oral sex, what do you get with a nice dinner, a movie and flowers?

Anal, on the dinner table, with the family watching and cheering you on.
Trilby • Jan 10, 2006 7:21 am
Crimson Ghost wrote:
Anal, on the dinner table, with the family watching and cheering you on.


Nuh-uh. I don't like the anal. The only thing that's gonna get you anal is diamonds.
and Rock Steady, sweetie, that wasn't aural sex, silly! I need to take you to school.

I did get the 10 points!!

A warm and wet Thanks! to all who played along!
Undertoad • Jan 10, 2006 8:37 am
SteveDallas wrote:
I'm curious, what exactly is the labor-intensive bit?

We developed an on-demand CD manufacturing process so no CDs have to be printed until they are ordered. In order for a disk to be part of this process, the entire booklet design has to be in our templates. This can be a real burden because some have a back-catalog of 10 discs. It takes apx 2 hours per disc to scan and convert a disc to our system. But it's a boon to the artist to have all this stuff suddenly available without having to print 1000 copies of each one of all 10 discs.
richlevy • Jan 10, 2006 8:41 am
Undertoad wrote:
We developed an on-demand CD manufacturing process so no CDs have to be printed until they are ordered. In order for a disk to be part of this process, the entire booklet design has to be in our templates. This can be a real burden because some have a back-catalog of 10 discs. It takes apx 2 hours per disc to scan and convert a disc to our system. But it's a boon to the artist to have all this stuff suddenly available without having to print 1000 copies of each one of all 10 discs.
You know, I thought about opening a brick and mortar store with that as a premise. It would be like a record store except only album covers on display. Kiosks would allow download to Ipods, or CD on demand. With key, songs could be reloaded for a small fee in case of loss.

People still like places where they can shop by sight and touch, and maybe get technical advice. It would make it easier for non-techies buying for themselves or as gifts.
SteveDallas • Jan 10, 2006 12:40 pm
richlevy wrote:
You know, I thought about opening a brick and mortar store with that as a premise. It would be like a record store except only album covers on display. Kiosks would allow download to Ipods, or CD on demand. With key, songs could be reloaded for a small fee in case of loss.

It reminds me of BB's CDs (warning: lame/nonexistent web site). I don't know how they operate now, but when they first opened in the twilight of the 1980s, all CDs were removed from their cases. The empty cases were on display and you could listen to any disc upon request (only staff actually handled the discs, and I never bought one that was in less than pristine condition). There were several listening stations up at the front. I know this caused me to buy several CDs I didn't really need and probably wouldn't have bought if they had stayed wrapped. (I guess one could argue that I didn't really need ANY CD that I've bought in the last 17, years, but hey.)
Rock Steady • Jan 10, 2006 2:11 pm
Brianna wrote:

and Rock Steady, sweetie, that wasn't aural sex, silly! I need to take you to school.


I will be an attentive student.
BigV • Jan 10, 2006 2:13 pm
Just don't be an apt pupil.
Spexxvet • Jan 12, 2006 9:23 am
Brianna wrote:

I did get the 10 points!!

A warm and wet Thanks! to all who played along!

So what was the answer?
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 12, 2006 10:46 pm
50 lbs. :)
Spexxvet • Jan 14, 2006 9:37 am
I once saw a simplified equation that seemed to show that 1=0. It turns out that one step in the solution was division by zero. You just didn't notice because zero was presented as (A-B) or something - I wish I could remember specifics. Anyway, the math notwithstanding, I have a hard time accepting that 98% of 99% is 49%.
Rock Steady • Jan 14, 2006 12:27 pm
Spexxvet wrote:
I have a hard time accepting that 98% of 99% is 49%.


You missed my eariler post. Re-phrase the question:

You buy 100 lbs of cucumbers. Cukes are 1% solids. In a few days they later dry out to 2% solids. How much do they weigh?

The percentage of solids doubled, so the mass must be halved. :muse:
Happy Monkey • Jan 14, 2006 12:33 pm
Spexxvet wrote:
I once saw a simplified equation that seemed to show that 1=0. It turns out that one step in the solution was division by zero. You just didn't notice because zero was presented as (A-B) or something - I wish I could remember specifics.
Here it is.
Anyway, the math notwithstanding, I have a hard time accepting that 98% of 99% is 49%.
You're not reading it correctly. It's not drying out until 98% of the water is left. It's drying out until enough water has left that out of the total mass, 98% is water.
grazzers • Jan 14, 2006 12:51 pm
Tried the question on my friends, thinking it was quite interesting (me currently at Uni studying Physics and all), they just got confused by it and the conversation deviated onto what a courgette was :eyebrow:.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 14, 2006 1:22 pm
Courgette? How did zucchinis get into it? :rolleyes:
Spexxvet • Jan 16, 2006 9:11 am
Happy Monkey wrote:
Here it is.You're not reading it correctly. It's not drying out until 98% of the water is left. It's drying out until enough water has left that out of the total mass, 98% is water.


Oh, ok. :redface: That's not what the original question sounded like it was asking. I feel like a Scottish University student. ;)

Thanks for the 1=0 link
footfootfoot • Jan 17, 2006 10:31 pm
I am pleased with myself today. I asked a friend this question and he couldn't figure it out. Being math impaired myself, I tried to explain how the answer was 50#. (I just read the answer, never followed the links to the explanation)

here's my work:

Cukes=100#=99% H2O, 1%solid
So, 99%=99#, 1%= 1#
Next day, cukes=98% H2O, 2% solid
Now 1#= 2% and 2% goes into 98% 49 times (49#)
49# plus 1# = 50#

good gawd! jump back! I wanna kiss myself.

Congrats Brianna
plthijinx • Jan 18, 2006 12:13 am
i'm late on this thread, but......ehhcht. i hate being late......
HungLikeJesus • Mar 18, 2008 3:16 pm
A nun says to the greengrocer, "Two cucumbers please."

Her friend says, "Get three. We'll eat one."

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I don't get it either.