12/13/2005: Hemel Hempstead oil fire

Undertoad • Dec 13, 2005 9:33 am
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It's been called Europe's biggest peacetime fire - this massive blaze at an oil depot has produced some remarkable shots from the sky. So far, though, it's thought that the massive black smoke is not a health hazard - hard to believe. There seems to be more worry about the fire-fighting foam they're using to help extinguish it. It may still be burning...

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Trilby • Dec 13, 2005 9:39 am
That last shot is pretty impressive. Is this north of London?
Undertoad • Dec 13, 2005 9:47 am
About 20 miles north.
glatt • Dec 13, 2005 9:51 am
Wow. Very impressive. And very dirty.

What a waste. All that pollution going up into the atmosphere, and we aren't able to harness it at all. Normally, we would get to move several hundred thousand cars around for the same amount of pollution, but this is just being wasted. What a shame.
Sundae • Dec 13, 2005 9:51 am
Hemel Hempstead is 14 miles from my family's home town. They were all woken up & listened immediately for sirens, thinking it was a bomb, that the nearest garage had blown up or that a local factory tower (under demolition) had come down.

Luckily (for them) Aylesbury is North of Hemel, so they are not even in any potential danger from the smoke, which is headed South.

I hadn't seen that picture before though - it's really impressive. If that's the right word to use...
grazzers • Dec 13, 2005 10:15 am
Wow, those are great pics! I was watching the news on the morning of the explosions, thinking there would be dozens of people killed, then the BBC reported the police as saying only limited injuries. Oddly though, half an hour later, ITV news (which I hate for it's ignorance) reported the police as saying no injuries... Very odd.

Love the satellite pics of the smoke too, got any of those?
Undertoad • Dec 13, 2005 11:16 am
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This is not the best of them... I can't really make out what's fire and what's Parisian ghettos.
Wormfood • Dec 13, 2005 1:06 pm
Are they sure this isn't a vulcano poping up near London. ;)
Elspode • Dec 13, 2005 2:40 pm
"Ladies and Gentlemen, we welcome you to Virtual Saudi Arabia 1991!"
capnhowdy • Dec 13, 2005 2:59 pm
So far, though, it's thought that the massive black smoke is not a health hazard - hard to believe.


Extremely hard to believe! :eyebrow:
Happy Monkey • Dec 13, 2005 4:09 pm
I suspect there's some.. ah.. "information management" going on. Just like the US Gov't. said that the WTC debris wasn't harmful. They figure that by the time it comes out that they're lying, it will be too late, and they'll have avoided a panic. And maybe they can scapegoat some scientist and/or pass a law preventing lawsuits.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 13, 2005 9:04 pm
The massive black smoke is not a health hazard..... because it's headed for France. :lol:
Griff • Dec 14, 2005 6:51 am
[world]Of course, you English know this will count against your Kyoto emissions. Tough luck, that.[/police]
grazzers • Dec 14, 2005 10:50 am
By looking at the pics all the smoke seems to go straight up, so it isn't really affecting air quality at ground level. The Fire Brigade are letting it burn off a bit more of the escaped gas before they put it out fully this afternoon.
chrisinhouston • Dec 14, 2005 10:51 am
Where's Texas oilwell fire fighter Red Adair when you really need him? Opps he's dead... Pretty cool guy though.

http://www.redadair.com/

makes me want to put on my DVD of Hellfighters!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063060/
Cyclefrance • Dec 14, 2005 12:16 pm
Brianna wrote:
That last shot is pretty impressive. Is this north of London?


Picture quoted as being taken from Millennium Dome which is redevelopped Docklands area to east of central London. The tall buildings in the foreground right are in Canary Wharf, with the main Canary Wharf tower blocked out almost by the other buildings - you can just see the pyramid top as a black object behind the others.

Below map shows approximate angle of view looking across north and east of London towards fire located north-west of London
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 14, 2005 1:44 pm
Red Adair was a larger than life character.
I noticed one of his many awards was the "Houston Distinguished Sales and Citizenship Award".
Makes me wonder if Sales and Citizenship are inextricably linked in Houston? :unsure:
insomnianiac • Dec 14, 2005 4:24 pm
This is a map showing where Hemel is in relation to London.

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I live in Hemel, in an area called Gadebridge.

The next link will take you to a map that shows where I am in relation to the oil depot.

Gadebridge can be seen in the centre square on the left hand side of the map &
the Buncefield Oil Depot is, or should I say, was in the centre square on the right hand side....

http://tinyurl.com/8yvqb

I don't have a camera, typically, but I did mange to get one picture with my webcam from my living room window.

It isn't that great :redface:, & it certainly doesn't do justice to how near and how dark the smoke stack was,
but I thought I'd show you it anyway :)

http://tinyurl.com/9a7c7




capnhowdy • Dec 14, 2005 4:38 pm
welcome to the Cellar insomnianiac.

Tell me.... what does the "FM" stand for on some of the areas on your map link?
glatt • Dec 14, 2005 4:41 pm
Thanks for stopping in to tell us about it, insomniac.

How did/does the air smell? You could obviously see the smoke, and probably hear the sirens, but could you smell anything? Or is it all going straight up into the sky? Did you hear the explosion?
Wombat • Dec 14, 2005 6:07 pm
capnhowdy wrote:
welcome to the Cellar insomnianiac.

Tell me.... what does the "FM" stand for on some of the areas on your map link?

Fm stands for Farm... for example Lovetts End Farm, Wood Farm.
Cyclefrance • Dec 14, 2005 7:20 pm
capnhowdy wrote:
welcome to the Cellar insomnianiac.

Tell me.... what does the "FM" stand for on some of the areas on your map link?


If it's the 'Fm' that you are referring to that's a little old English abbreviation for the word 'farm' - we just love to take an opportunity to save ink - even when only two letters are involved!

(Gosh - it must be getting late - I completely missed Wombat's answer that preceded mine.... time for me cocoa, methinks....)
capnhowdy • Dec 14, 2005 7:59 pm
thank you both... just wondering.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 15, 2005 5:07 am
Thanks insomnianiac.
How's the air quality where you are? Can you smell the smoke on the ground or is the fire sucking in fresh air from around you? :confused: