Leicester

Sundae • Oct 18, 2005 7:54 am
Some photos of Merry Olde England. I've tried to take ones which I think will show up differences in daily life UK vs US.

Still very new to using my digital camera so please feel free to correct me/ make helpful suggestions.

An answer to the age old question, "Who ate all the pies?" and a pub advertising lunch (with nary a pie in sight)
Sundae • Oct 18, 2005 8:12 am
This is a gallery that is ripe for destruction - despite there being many floors only a few shops are open on the ground floor. Most people just use it as a short cut without even noticing what is above them.
Sundae • Oct 18, 2005 8:17 am
Lush (for the fans out there) on the charmingly named Gallowtree Gate.
Trilby • Oct 18, 2005 10:42 am
Charming! One of the things I like the very BEST about England is that you dare to name something Gallowtree Gate! Post more! And, what's with the pies? What kind of pies? And, how much does a 'stone' weigh in pounds? And, how much alcohol is a 'unit'-? Is that like a shot? An ounce? What?? :)
barefoot serpent • Oct 18, 2005 10:51 am
It all seems so very pedestrian -- I love it!
*starts packing bags*
Sundae • Oct 18, 2005 11:00 am
The pies ref is to a football (soccer) chant. Thinking about it, its probably not made it across the Atlantic. Essentially it goes "Who ate all the pies? Who ate all the pies? You fat bastard, you fat bastard, you ate all the pies!" So I was being quite mean actually (oops) I would expect the pies in question to be savoury.

A stone is 14 pounds. I try to remember to translate but sometimes forget!

A unit of alcohol is 10ml of pure alcohol. Its more difficult to translate because from what I remember there are different measures served in the US.
1 pub measure of spirit = 1 unit
1 pub glass wine = 2 units
1 pint lager = 3 units
The recommended intake for a woman per week is 14 units and a man 21 units.

Will look through my pics & find some more for you.
Sundae • Oct 18, 2005 11:07 am
One of the oldest buildings in Leicester as seen from my office. The Guildhall is on the right & the Cathedral (under repair) on the left.

The second picture shows the reverse view with a glimpse of my ugly 80's office block.
Sundae • Oct 18, 2005 11:17 am
A bus for you.

Note the advert on the side warning of fines if you don't pay your television licence (currently £126.50 a year, and yes - everyone has to buy one)
Sundae • Oct 18, 2005 11:26 am
Leicester Market
Just a couple more then I'll quit.
Sundae • Oct 18, 2005 11:34 am
Last one - another juxtaposition. The rather pretty Turkey Cafe next door to the fairly mundane BK.

I was tempted to crop the belisha beacon out of it, but realised thats probably an interesting foreign object for you!
wolf • Oct 18, 2005 11:46 am
Belisha Beacon? I assume you mean the yellow ball on top of the black and white pole ... what's it do?
glatt • Oct 18, 2005 11:48 am
Sundae Girl wrote:
A bus for you. Note the advert on the side warning of fines if you don't pay your television licence (currently £126.50 a year, and yes - everyone has to buy one)


Do you have to take a test to get a television licence?
Sundae • Oct 18, 2005 11:56 am
Belisha beacons stand at either side of a zebra crossing. These are pedestrian crossings without traffic lights - just black & white stripes across the road. Technically pedestrians have right of way, but as I was hit by a car on one in 2002, I'm quite wary now!
Happy Monkey • Oct 18, 2005 12:05 pm
Well, there's right of way, and there's might of way.
melidasaur • Oct 18, 2005 12:37 pm
Loved the pics... I love England soooooooo much! Haven't visted Leicester yet, but I know how to pronounce it correctly :).
Sundae • Oct 18, 2005 12:57 pm
Ah but would you know how to pronounce Belvoir Castle?

I have to admit I didn't when I moved here, pronouncing the street of the same name exactly as its spelled. I was corrected loudly & in a very patronising way by a colleague. (Beaver apparently).

I let her carry on saying "tortiller" and "jally-penyo". Figured she deserved to be laughed at.
BigV • Oct 18, 2005 2:21 pm
Sundae Girl wrote:
Belisha beacons stand at either side of a zebra crossing. These are pedestrian crossings without traffic lights - just black & white stripes across the road. Technically pedestrians have right of way, but as I was hit by a car on one in 2002, I'm quite wary now!
Was in London many years ago, and had heard about the "zebra crossings". I was wary, but all my traffic instincts were wired precisely backwards. How I managed to return home without a set of tire tracks running up the back side of my head, I don't know.
slang • Oct 18, 2005 5:34 pm
Outstanding SG.

Normal scenes from a place that you see everyday and dont even think about. The descriptions are helpful and the photos are clear and light enough to see.

It's often hard to imagine what other people far away might find interesting but you have done a great job with these.

The bus is fantastic.
Elspode • Oct 18, 2005 5:43 pm
"Lester" and "Bell-vwah", yes?
Griff • Oct 18, 2005 9:33 pm
Pretty town!
wolf • Oct 19, 2005 1:49 am
Elspode wrote:
"Lester" and "Bell-vwah", yes?


I only know know it's "Lester" because of the Dead Bishop on the Landing.

I have this feeling that while Leicester looses letters in the pronounciation, Belvoir might in some mysterious way use them all, but not necessarily in the order as written? (like Bell-vee-or?)
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 19, 2005 4:08 am
Great job, SG. Thanks.
By the way.....is this a guaranty? :lol:
Sundae • Oct 20, 2005 10:53 am
I answered the Belvoir question in the same post I asked it - but I can understand why you didn't realise it was the answer. Belvoir is pronounced Beaver. Hmmmmmmmmm.

I'll keep my camera with me anyway, and I may have some more to post when I'm back at work on Monday (in the local library right now!)

I'm going to try & take some pictures of Diwala (Hindu, Jain & Sikh festival of light coming up) which is a big deal here. And also of the temples/ places of worship here. Partly because I want them to show my own family when I'm there for Christmas (there are no large non-Christian places of worship there) but I may post them here too.

Thanks for your kind words & encouragement - I could get interested in photography through this......
Sundae • Oct 20, 2005 10:54 am
xoxoxoBruce wrote:
Great job, SG. Thanks.
By the way.....is this a guaranty? :lol:


I admit I don't know what Arriva means......? Does it mean quickly or something? I just always saw it as a promise that you'd arriva when you got there, regardless of what the timetable says.
Cyclefrance • Oct 28, 2005 6:41 am
Hi Sundae girl - really refreshing look on merrye olde Englande - nice photos that show England as it is. Don't stop - want to see more. You have a way of capturing the little things that make the big difference. Wish I could do that.
Cyclefrance • Oct 28, 2005 6:46 am
Sundae Girl wrote:
I admit I don't know what Arriva means......? Does it mean quickly or something? I just always saw it as a promise that you'd arriva when you got there, regardless of what the timetable says.


I think it means 'we'll nearly get you there' - 'arriva' is not quite 'arrival'

They're certainly spreading their wings - we have their buses down south as well!
Sundae • Oct 31, 2005 5:33 am
I live on a main road, but this is the street just round the corner (my short-cut to the launderette).

Thought the cars & style of houses might be different to what you see in the US.
Undertoad • Oct 31, 2005 6:41 am
The power of stereotyping: when I was a lad in Britain, a girl who was a friend of mine said she wouldn't like to live in the US because all the houses are cookie-cutter exactly alike. She lived on a street just like this.
Trilby • Oct 31, 2005 7:09 am
I like it. You can really get to know your neighbors! Hopefully, you get along with them. And, this reminds me--it's trash day today.
Sundae • Oct 31, 2005 7:10 am
But surely this proves how diverse the houses are? You can paint your door and windows any colour you like after all......
Undertoad • Oct 31, 2005 7:15 am
I'd live there.
DanaC • Oct 31, 2005 8:03 am
Goddamn it I need to invest in a camera! Great pics Sundae, soon as I acquire a camera I'll post some piccies of Halifax in Yorkshire (Calder Valley)
Trilby • Oct 31, 2005 8:17 am
DanaC wrote:
Goddamn it I need to invest in a camera! Great pics Sundae, soon as I acquire a camera I'll post some piccies of Halifax in Yorkshire (Calder Valley)


YAY!!!! I can't wait!! Kinda Bronte country, isn't it?
Sundae • Oct 31, 2005 9:08 am
One of my best friends lives in Sowerby Bridge - thats the same part of the world I think? Its certainly a beautiful. Looking forward to it!
Sundae • Nov 1, 2005 8:18 am
The Cathedral spire reflected in the windows of the BBC buidling opposite.
Sundae • Oct 3, 2006 12:13 pm
I moved offices in March, but what with being off with depression and all, I haven't been taking any pics. Anyway, here are a couple from my office window.

They don't show anything special, but figured you might as well see what I see every day!

First is literally my view, although it looks closer in real life :)

The second is from my Manager's office, showing the road I walk home along and the corner of the station (sand coloured building lower right).
Pangloss62 • Oct 3, 2006 12:16 pm
I gotta get to England. I feel like it's an obligation, since I speak the language. Any good pubs near work?
Sundae • Oct 3, 2006 12:17 pm
Then the Leicester County Court (new red brick building) and our closest NCP carpark!

If you were here, you would be able to see Victorian Leicester on the first and second floor of modern shops. And the lines of green hinting at Leicester's parks and avenues. But of course photos (at least my photos) only give you the nearest buildings.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 3, 2006 12:27 pm
Lots of cranes, is there a lot of building going on?:D
Sundae • Oct 3, 2006 12:36 pm
xoxoxoBruce wrote:
Lots of cranes, is there a lot of building going on?:D

Yes - they are renovating a part of the city that used to be run down factories. Some are being converted into flats but they are also building a new theatre. I'm quite excited by the project, but mostly because they've put coloured lights on all the lamp-posts, which made me go "oooh!" when I first saw them. Easily pleased, me.
Sundae • Oct 3, 2006 12:44 pm
Pangloss62 wrote:
I gotta get to England. I feel like it's an obligation, since I speak the language. Any good pubs near work?

For me a good pub is somewhere I can sit down, hear the conversation of the person/ people I am with, and I can afford to get a round in. By my criteria there are lots nearby :) But even my fussier colleagues seem to think we're well placed.

Am meeting my friend at the station tonight, we often walk home together and we'll probably stop in a pub on our way that does Beer n Burger (or Beer n Curry) with a pint of lager for £2.95 - $5.56 to you. I know it's cheap to eat out in the US, so let me put that in perspective here. A McDonalds meal costs £3.19 and a foot long Subway £4.10

Meh, we have to put up with students (2 Universities here) but if you go out after work they haven't even got up yet.
Sundae • Oct 16, 2006 1:12 pm
Nothing special, just what I'm seeing tonight.
dar512 • Oct 17, 2006 1:08 pm
Sundae Girl wrote:
Easily pleased, me.

My kids tease me from time to time about how I'm so easily amused. I keep telling them that those who are easily amused will go through life happy.
Buddug • Oct 19, 2006 1:53 am
Well , I am British , and thank Gawd I do not live there .
Sundae • Oct 19, 2006 7:18 am
Buddug wrote:
Well , I am British , and thank Gawd I do not live there .

Any particular reason?
Everyone's entitled to their opinion of course, but I'm pretty fond of my adopted home.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 19, 2006 4:19 pm
Don't ask, Sundae....just forget it.
Buddug is not a Brit. Expat spawn, shacking with a frog in the Caribbean.
You, like the rest of us, are beneath her. Sort of a troll. :crazy:
Elspode • Oct 19, 2006 5:22 pm
Great pics, SG. Keep 'em coming, please. I'll likely never go much of anywhere, but I do get to live vicariously through the eyes and digicams of my fellow Cellarites.

Not sure how to delicately ask this, but you *did* mention a certain malaise earlier, so...are you feeling better, then?
Sundae • Oct 20, 2006 6:08 am
Elspode wrote:
Great pics, SG. Keep 'em coming, please. I'll likely never go much of anywhere, but I do get to live vicariously through the eyes and digicams of my fellow Cellarites.

Not sure how to delicately ask this, but you *did* mention a certain malaise earlier, so...are you feeling better, then?

I'll certainly post more pics now that it's my favourite time of year again.

And yes - with the help of friends and drugs I am working my way out of depression. About a month ago I was suddenly struck with a feeling of happiness - and realised it was the first time in 2006. I've stopped thinking about killing myself and I think it's fair to say I'm on the mend :)
Trilby • Oct 20, 2006 8:00 am
SG--I am glad you had a feeling of happiness (it feels GREAT, doesn't it? So free!) and that you are coming out of your depression. If you could see yourself the way I see you, you'd know how smart, witty, sweet and special you are. :comfort:
skysidhe • Oct 20, 2006 9:18 am
Sundae Girl wrote:
I live on a main road, but this is the street just round the corner (my short-cut to the launderette).

Thought the cars & style of houses might be different to what you see in the US.



Not really. I am sure there is a street someplace that looks just like that. One of the things I saw I didn't see here was on the menu sigh. We havn't had the pleasure of eating jackets yet.:p Or at least I havn't. What are they?
Sundae • Oct 20, 2006 9:39 am
Jackets are Baked Potatoes (in their jackets - see?)

Very popular lunch here - Jack's Potato Shop (see what they did there) has queues outside every weekday lunchtime for takeaway. Most popular fillings- beans, chilli, or cheese & coleslaw (bleurgh)
Elspode • Oct 20, 2006 2:36 pm
What, no jellied elvers or Spam?
rkzenrage • Oct 20, 2006 3:01 pm
Great pics. I love the city... I miss going. Spent a lot of time in NY, New Orleans, Miami and many others. I have lived in Tampa and Los Angeles.
Mainly because it is so forien to me... growing-up in the forrest the way I did.
How handicap accessible is London, does anyone know?
footfootfoot • Oct 20, 2006 4:35 pm
Is there a 'Rearsby" in Leicester? My Maternal Grandma was from Rearsby, Leicester. Is that a village in a larger city or an area or just some other anomalie?
limey • Oct 22, 2006 1:14 pm
rkzenrage wrote:
Great pics. I love the city... I miss going. Spent a lot of time in NY, New Orleans, Miami and many others. I have lived in Tampa and Los Angeles.
Mainly because it is so forien to me... growing-up in the forrest the way I did.
How handicap accessible is London, does anyone know?


Probably not very, I'm afraid. Only some tube (...er ... subway) stations have wheelchair access. I think all taxis are supposed to be able to take passengers in/with wheelchairs, but this may be the fold-up, non motorised sort. Suburban railways now have to provide ramp access to their carriages when required. All shops and museums are supposed to provide step-free access now I think. Pavements (sidewalks) in the centre of town are not always all that wide. I could find out more if you like.
Sundae • Oct 23, 2006 5:25 am
Elspode - jellied eels are a London speciality. Coming from a family of native Eastenders I've eaten them in my time. Traditional food for this part of the world is Melton Mowbray Pork Pies and Red Leicester cheese. I can see why they stick with the jacket pots.

Foot - there certainly is a Rearsby in Leicester. My local shop sells a type of bread called the Rearsby Loaf, although this is made in a different village now (by my best friend's husband's family bakery!) I was there this summer for a drink with friends, it's only about 10 miles out of Leicester but it's a beautiful little village.

Rkzenrage - I'll back what Limey says. Things have improved in London, and there is all sorts of legislation in place to make it easier for disabled travel, but it's an old city and space is at a premium. The major attractions will have good access, but you will need to plan travel carefully.

There's bound to be websites or agencies that can provide detailed information on Underground stations with access. I'd like to think it would be worth the effort anyway :)
Sundae • Oct 23, 2006 8:11 am
A couple of pics of the new Cultural Quarter currently under construction/ renovation- with fancy lampposts as previously mentioned.
Sundae • Oct 23, 2006 8:20 am
The first pic shows how things are progressing - from left to right is a very nice restaurant with flats above, a space awaiting development (with newly refurbished flats peeking through above it) and a nasty old row of shops/ offices showing 20th C architecture isn't holding up very well.

The second pic is a bit busy, but shows work being done on existing (ugly) offices, a poster for Diwali - Leicester has a large Hindu population and our celebrations are apparently the largest outside of India. The pub on the right is the Rainbow & Dove, a friendly gay pub.
Sundae • Oct 23, 2006 8:26 am
And finally (for now)
Looking up London Road to the station on the right hand side. This is the way I choose to walk home most days. It looks grimmer than it is, as it's a grey overcast day.

And my office, doing its best to blend in with the city's Victorian architecture - not. Someone was actually paid to design this I suppose...
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 23, 2006 3:23 pm
It would appear food plays a big part of the Diwali celebration..... I'm all for that.
Taking an oil bath in the middle of the night doesn't sound all that appealing, although I have, after an evening of heavy partying or during an all nighter in the garage. :D
Sundae • Oct 24, 2006 6:50 am
Food plays a big part in both Diwali and Eid - and we certainly profit from it here! Tomorrow we're having a staff lunch to celebrate both - non-contributers pay £2.50 and everyone else brings a dish.

Basically I get to gorge myself on home-made curries, samosas, breads, pickles etc in the name of cultural diversity. I don't touch the sweets - Indian sweets are so sweet they melt your teeth just by looking at them.
Sundae • Nov 14, 2006 2:05 pm
I took my camera on a walk through Town Hall Square and into the market. It's a bit slow as I haven't found a way to edit it yet and I'm far too impatient to wait until I have.

Better movies will follow I should think.

But bear with it until the market - that's colourful and noisy at least, as well as showing our vibrant ethnic mix.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc4OUq9Ei5M
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 14, 2006 2:18 pm
That was fun, although it looked like a good day to stay inside and drink hot toddies. :guinness:
How did you keep the camera so steady while you were walking?
Sundae • Nov 14, 2006 2:19 pm
By not drinking hot toddies :)

Actually it's not cold here at the moment - I was wearing a t-shirt (as it's so damn hot in the office) with just a light poncho over the top.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 14, 2006 2:24 pm
You must pad about on little cat's feet because there wasn't even any footstep jar to them. I had to chuckle ay the camera looking both ways crossing the street. :D
Elspode • Nov 14, 2006 8:29 pm
Nice. Just...nice.

I don't know about anyone else, but watching this video by SG left *me* feeling a little misty. Thousands of miles away, on a chilly, rainy Fall afternoon, people are going about their lives, almost indistinguishably from the way that I go about my own life. Just a few weeks ago, Selene and I were at our City Market here in KC, seeing, smelling, hearing much the same things as SG showed us in the video. Christmas is similarly making an ever earlier appearance here, same as is evidenced in her video. Families move with purpose, children in tow, men and women examine the wares and probably pat themselves on the back for making a better deal on better produce than they could have gotten at the supermarket.

Somewhere else in the world, people are devising ways to kill other people, blow them into tiny bits in some godforsaken shithole; people who probably have had experiences much the same as what we just shared with SG and her Leicester community. People with children in pink coats, clutching balloons and whining that they want to go home.

Why in the name of all that is Holy do we kill each other? Why can we not all live in harmony, and shop for our vegetables in peace?

Why do I think of shit like this just from watching a simple video of daily life?
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 14, 2006 10:38 pm
Because Sundae Girl brings out the best in you, too. :thumb:
Sundae • Nov 15, 2006 11:59 am
I think perhaps it's the season. It's not far off the longest day when the year flips itself over again. There's a good reason why the early Christian church set up Advent as a time of reflection.

When I heard about the killings in Iraq this Sunday (Remembrance Sunday) I cried. It reminded me so much of Enniskillen in 1987 - my Mum and I sat with our arms around eachother crying over that one (Remembrance Day bomb in Northern Ireland - 11 killed, 63 injured)

People killing their own countrymen and women. Makes my throat hurt even now. Any regime that glorifies the death of civilians is morally bankrupt.

Anyway!
Enough of that I guess.

Time to go out stalking the streets for streakers :)
Sundae • Nov 15, 2006 3:33 pm
Right - consider this a work in progress

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf2LMiNW1Is

It's my first attempt to film my bus journey to work
I set off late this morning, so I wasn't at the front of the bus, grrrr - don't these people know who I am?

It's 6 minutes and believe me, apart from shaky camera-work and the bus stopping to let people on, it's 6 minutes of nothing.

But I will get a better one and link to it by the end of the week (I hope). And I will learn how to edit! Anyway, I'd be fascinated by other people's journeys to work so I'm simply posting a link for other curious oddities like me :)
Elspode • Nov 15, 2006 3:41 pm
I'd video my commute, but I'm sure no one wants to watch 35 minutes of rush hour traffic from inside a rattly ass car.
Sundae • Nov 15, 2006 3:47 pm
I admit, I was shocked at the fact the bus only takes 6 minutes. But that doesn't include the wait (average 15 minutes and it's a 20 minute walk!)

You know - although I'd balk at 35 mins as described, I'd love if you took some blue-tak, fixed a camera on your dashboard and filmed a trip in your area. And get Selenerati to commentate too - she has a lovely voice.

I'm more widely travelled than my colleagues, but I wouldn't know Missouri if it dropped its Fruit of the Looms and flashed me!
SeleneRati • Nov 15, 2006 4:46 pm
I absolutely loved both your videos, SG. I really enjoy the whole video thing and will try to talk Els into taping at least part of our morning commute sometime this week. I think that exchanging information through these video shorts really shows each other how we are living.

Thanks so much for sharing with everyone.
Elspode • Nov 15, 2006 7:21 pm
1) I thought Brits did away with double decker busses?
2) Was that the driver sitting in front on the top deck?
3) Everyone is driving on the wrong side of the road? :D
4) No commentary...? Sniff...
Trilby • Nov 15, 2006 8:26 pm
I am really enjoying your videos, SG. Please send us more!
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 15, 2006 8:35 pm
Those busses are great for filming. Our busses let you see the sides of trucks and street signs.

I commute in the dark so you wouldn't see much. :D
Undertoad • Nov 15, 2006 8:54 pm
"The Loaded Dog" Please tell me that's a pub.
DanaC • Nov 16, 2006 3:58 am
My local pub is called "The Shouder of Mutton".
Trilby • Nov 16, 2006 9:00 am
Why don't we have cool pub names like this? My local bar is called Harrigan's (always some bloody Irish name and you know damn well the owners are Italian or Norwegian or similar) and nearest tavern is called Norton's. Sigh.

I'd love to live in a town that had street names like Gallowtree Gate...but NOOOOOOOoooooooooo. Such is the disadvantage of living in a new country. We've no history to draw upon. No castles, no fairy hills, no 14th Century haunted graveyards. No catacombs lined with the bones of heretics. It's enough to depress a person.
DanaC • Nov 16, 2006 9:52 am
No castles, no fairy hills, no 14th Century haunted graveyards. No catacombs lined with the bones of heretics. It's enough to depress a person

That really made me chuckle :P especially the catacombs lined with the bones of heretics hehe.

Talking of cool street names:

In Halifax there is a street called Gibbet Street, it's where the Gibbet used to be. Cutting across Gibbet Street.... is Hope Lane.

The Halifax Gibbet is the reason for this medieval proverb: "From Hell, Hull and Halifax, God preserve us."
Trilby • Nov 16, 2006 10:30 am
Darling Dana--what the hell is a Gibbet?
DanaC • Nov 16, 2006 10:50 am
*grins*
Halifax Gibbet
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The Halifax Gibbet in the town of Halifax, West Yorkshire, was an early guillotine. The town had held the right to execute criminals since 1280. Although there is early reference to a gibbet, there is no evidence about the method of execution until the sixteenth century, when the town acquired a fixed machine which cut the head off the condemned criminal. Local law required that “If a felon be taken within the liberty of Halifax...either hand-habend (caught with the stolen goods in his hand or in the act of stealing), back-berand (caught carrying stolen goods on his back), or confess and (having confessed to the crime), to the value of thirteen pence half-penny, he shall after three markets...be taken to the Gibbet and there have his head cut off from his body”.

It was believed that the law against theft was much more strictly enforced to protect the cloth industry, which had grown very important.

The reputation of Halifax for strict law enforcement was noted by Daniel Defoe, who gave a detailed description in his Travels, the antiquary William Camden and by the "Water Poet" John Taylor, who penned the Beggar's Litany From Hell, Hull and Halifax, Good Lord deliver us. The reputation seems to have been greater than the facts, as between 1541 and 1650, the official records show that only 53 men and women were executed by the Halifax Gibbet. The Gibbet was taken down in 1650, perhaps in response to the execution of Charles I, but a replica was erected in 1974.
Trilby • Nov 16, 2006 10:56 am
Awesome!

You know, I guess Gettysburg (In Pennsylvania, near Philadelphia) is a pretty haunted place. Lots of civil war soldiers lost their lives there. Supposed to b suffused with the restless energy of them.
DanaC • Nov 16, 2006 11:01 am
If anywhere is going to be haunted (and I have severe misgivings about that as a possibility:P) one would assume Gettysburg to be regular Central Station of restless spirits.
DanaC • Nov 16, 2006 11:16 am
Sorry for the detour SG, I'll get out the way of the bus after this :P

Bri, check out this link. If you really want beautiful and haunted historical locations, Kirkstall Abbey is hard to resist:).

http://www.kirkstall.org.uk/abbey/
Sundae • Nov 16, 2006 11:58 am
I have replaced the old video with a newer (shorter) one from today, where I got pole position. Well, the front seat on the top deck anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBozp_oFjp0

The driver sits downstairs on all buses - so it would just have been a passenger in the other video. I understand that some London Double Deckers have been replaced by articulated buses (much to car drivers' disgust) but the double decker is alive & well in Leicester. What has been phased out totally are the old Routemaster buses, which you accessed via a platform at the back of the bus and bought your ticket from a conducter. Having spent a large part of my childhood in London I mourned their passing - I remember more than one occasion where it felt as if I'd taken off as a parent or Grandparent dragged me by the hand onto a moving bus. Knowing my family it probably wasn't moving very far or very fast, but you don't know that as a 6 year old. It did mean you could get off where & when you fancied though - often a boon in heavy traffic.

The Loaded Dog is indeed a pub. Not a traditional one sadly, a made up name for a student pub. But that's the one I've mentioned before, that does a curry, chips and a pint of beer for £2.95 (less than a McDonalds meal) so I forgive it.

My favourite traditionally named pub was in Oxford - the Eagle & Child. No idea how the name came about. Very few pubs are known by their full names anyway - the George for the George & Dragon, the Crat for the Aristocrat and the Plant for the Last Plantagenet are some of my locals.
DanaC • Nov 16, 2006 12:09 pm
There's a pub in Bolton called "The House without a Name", other wise known as the no name pub. My ex's dad lived near it. Was established around 1820 I think.
Best one in Bolton though is: The Man and Scythe. 1st built 12th Century, rebuilt again in 17th Century and again in the Victorian era. Bits of it are I believe from the original construction. The 7th Earl of Derby was held there and taken out for execution frm there in 1651. There's a skull behind the bar which is traditionally assumed to be Derby's.....But the pub is known to Boltoners usually as "T' Cider 'Ouse".
Trilby • Nov 16, 2006 12:09 pm
Sundae Girl wrote:
the George for the George & Dragon, the Crat for the Aristocrat and the Plant for the Last Plantagenet are some of my locals.


A pub named the Last Plantagenet? Be still my heart!

See--that is another thing that is wrong with Americans. They do not take the time to think up good bar/tavern names.
Sundae • Nov 16, 2006 12:21 pm
You should open one :)

The pub is named for wicked old Richard III, the last of the Platagenets. He's supposed to have consulted a soothsayer in Leicester before the battle of Bosworth Field (didn't do him much good, she predicted his death... and was correct!)
DanaC • Nov 16, 2006 12:31 pm
What a brilliant name for a pub.
Sundae • Nov 16, 2006 12:33 pm
AND it's a Wetherspoons, so the old men turn up for beer and breakfast about 10.00, and are still there at 17.00 when we pile in for cheap shots and steak & ale pie :)

If you don't mind sticky tables and the couple next to you fighting aover the head of their two year old it's not a bad place to drink.
SeleneRati • Nov 16, 2006 5:51 pm
Sundae Girl wrote:
I have replaced the old video with a newer (shorter) one from today, where I got pole position. Well, the front seat on the top deck anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBozp_oFjp0



SG,

I still get the same video as yesterday.....nothing new...do I need to clear my cashe or what?
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 16, 2006 10:38 pm
I think it's cleaner remake of the first one. ;)
Sundae • Nov 17, 2006 6:24 am
Oh dear
I saved the new one to YouTube without checking it - it was, in fact the same video.

This is the new one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7tJ64Hj4Jk

And yes, it is much cleaner than the filthy, filthy first video :)
sproglet • Nov 17, 2006 2:55 pm
Am I missing something?

Or is this post modernistic irony?

Probably explains why Mrs sproglet was so keen to move away from Leicester when she graduated from DeMontford.
Sundae • Nov 17, 2006 3:14 pm
sproglet wrote:
Am I missing something?

Or is this post modernistic irony?

Probably explains why Mrs sproglet was so keen to move away from Leicester when she graduated from DeMontford.

I don't think you're really missing anything :)
Unless it's the fact that most of the Dwellars live outside the UK.

I am fascinated by the day to day similarities and differences between people's lives. When Slang goes abroad the first thing I ask for is a picture of a local menu, the price of a beer, a picture of a market.

It's not "Check out this cool video, these cool pictures! OMG you'll be so excited!" because they won't excite anybody. It's here to share small slices of life with people who are interested.

I sit in hope of pictures & clips from US & Aus supermarkets. backyards, gardens, commutes... I am Sundae "interesting" Girl.
sproglet • Nov 17, 2006 6:52 pm
It would seem you're absolved of the mendacity of life.

Can I suggest that you go out, find somebody mutually attractive and have some sex with them.

Spark it up a little :-)
rkzenrage • Nov 17, 2006 6:57 pm
It is a dream of mine to go to Europe.
Problems. Can't get a straight answer as to the wheelchair accessibility, on average.
Cold and wet=oweeee.
$, of course.
Time, not trying to get sympathy, but true.
Honestly, the first is the the most important.
sproglet • Nov 17, 2006 7:11 pm
The grass is always greener.

But hey, we all need dreams.

P.S. we have wheelchairs in Europe, last time I checked.
Undertoad • Nov 17, 2006 7:13 pm
sproglet wrote:
It would seem you're absolved of the mendacity of life.

Someone's been taking his word-a-day desk calendar a little too seriously.
sproglet • Nov 17, 2006 7:16 pm
Calendars are for wimps, as is lunch I believe.

However, people from Leicester are made of sterner stuff.
rkzenrage • Nov 17, 2006 7:19 pm
sproglet wrote:
The grass is always greener.

But hey, we all need dreams.

P.S. we have wheelchairs in Europe, last time I checked.

There are wheelchairs in NY too... and almost no accessibility. I cannot get my electric into most restaurants. The Americans with Disabilitys Act is pretty much ignored.
Not an answer. If I want to go to a pub, will there be a ramp?
sproglet • Nov 17, 2006 7:25 pm
rkzenrage wrote:
If I want to go to a pub, will there be a ramp?


My friend...If you have money and you want to get pissed, almost any pub in England, Scotland or Wales (not forgetting Ireland) will welcome you with open arms. In fact I'll go so far to say they'll probably knock the door frame out or erect a heated tent in the front garden if you'll share a pint and a story or two with them.

In fact, bollocks, you can come round my house and we'll get pissed in my back garden together whilst thumbing our noses at the stair building bastards of the world.
Elspode • Nov 17, 2006 9:29 pm
sproglet wrote:

Can I suggest that you go out, find somebody mutually attractive and have some sex with them.

Spark it up a little :-)

Well, that certainly *would* make the videos a whole different ballgame, anyway.

Note: Edited to add that, when I first read sproglet's comment, I thought it was intended as humor. Now that I've read his infantile rant about Jinx' auto accident, I've decided that the shit that was said here on his part was fucking pompous and irritating as well, so I want to add that sproglet should continue to either fuck himself, as LJ has suggested, or continue to consume feces and expire, as I have encouraged him to do.

Sproglet's the one who needs the sex, I think. Obviously a serious case of SRS...
Elspode • Nov 17, 2006 9:31 pm
Sundae Girl wrote:

This is the new one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7tJ64Hj4Jk

And yes, it is much cleaner than the filthy, filthy first video :)

You're a good person, SG. You know how I can tell?

You thanked the bus driver.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 17, 2006 9:38 pm
Well, if you go to England, don't go to Leicester....it's not safe there, the birds are viscous. :haha:
glatt • Nov 17, 2006 9:54 pm
Elspode wrote:
You're a good person, SG. You know how I can tell?

You thanked the bus driver.


I noticed that too. It was nice. I really like her videos. I need a new digital camera that will take videos too. Then I could bore you all with riding metro trains through dark tunnels.
sproglet • Nov 18, 2006 5:10 am
Elspode wrote:

Note: Edited to add that, when I first read sproglet's comment, I thought it was intended as humor. Now that I've read his infantile rant about Jinx' auto accident, I've decided that the shit that was said here on his part was fucking pompous and irritating as well, so I want to add that sproglet should continue to either fuck himself, as LJ has suggested, or continue to consume feces and expire, as I have encouraged him to do.

Sproglet's the one who needs the sex, I think. Obviously a serious case of SRS...


If it's personal attacks you're into, you've picked the wrong person I'm afraid, I don't give a flying fat rat's arse. If you've got a valid argument that might change my opinion on something then you'll earn my respect.

Having said that, I'm married with kids, so you're probably right, I do need some good sex for a change.

As for the infantile poo eating remark, I'll try anything once, you first though...
Sundae • Nov 18, 2006 5:40 am
sproglet wrote:

Can I suggest that you go out, find somebody mutually attractive and have some sex with them.

Spark it up a little :-)

A bit of sex - although a welcome diversion - wouldn't make me lose my interest in other people's lives. But suggestions are always welcome of course.

Anyway.

Yes, I did thank the bus driver, but that's pretty standard here. I noticed when I was waitressing in London that Americans don't say please and thank you as much as we do. But once I realised it was just a cultural thing and nothing to do with manners it didn't bother me - after all the tips were so much better!

If I get bad service in a bar my main protest is not to say Thank You. But it's so ingrained it pops out anyway. Grrrrrrrr.

Thanks for the kind comments - as I'm only providing links I assume I'm not taking up bandwidth (does that make sense?) so I'll keep posting them. I'll include commentary on the next one.
rkzenrage • Nov 18, 2006 9:29 am
sproglet wrote:
My friend...If you have money and you want to get pissed, almost any pub in England, Scotland or Wales (not forgetting Ireland) will welcome you with open arms. In fact I'll go so far to say they'll probably knock the door frame out or erect a heated tent in the front garden if you'll share a pint and a story or two with them.

In fact, bollocks, you can come round my house and we'll get pissed in my back garden together whilst thumbing our noses at the stair building bastards of the world.

Why does no one just answer the question?

Thank you for your kindness, btw.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 18, 2006 9:51 am
Sundae Girl wrote:

Thanks for the kind comments - as I'm only providing links I assume I'm not taking up bandwidth (does that make sense?) so I'll keep posting them. I'll include commentary on the next one.
You're doing fine and it's much appreciated, thank you. :D

btw, the picture of the birds was from the Washington post.
Sundae • Nov 18, 2006 10:03 am
I forgot about your picture in my excitement at being told to go & have sex!

:smack: Don't tell them about the birds! We market ourselves on not having dangerous spiders, snakes, mosquitos... we don't like to talk about the feathered peck monsters.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 18, 2006 10:11 am
I'm afraid the cat's out.....er bird's out of the bag, after making the Washington post's day in pictures section. Now the whole world knows your dirty little secret. Well, one of your dirty little secrets. :D
Elspode • Nov 18, 2006 6:08 pm
sproglet wrote:
If it's personal attacks you're into, you've picked the wrong person I'm afraid, I don't give a flying fat rat's arse. If you've got a valid argument that might change my opinion on something then you'll earn my respect.

Having said that, I'm married with kids, so you're probably right, I do need some good sex for a change.

As for the infantile poo eating remark, I'll try anything once, you first though...

Meh...you're an ass.

I don't care what your opinions are, and I wouldn't waste my time trying to change them. What bugs me is your judgemental fucking attitude, as though you know what's best and everyone else sucks. Piss on that.
DanaC • Nov 18, 2006 6:20 pm
rkzenrage, the situation re: wheelchair access is mixed. Some places are very very good and conscientious and some places aren't. Mostly the places that aren't are very old (usually listed) buildings which would be difficult or expensive to adapt. Most pubs and large shops are fine. Some of the smaller places aren't.
rkzenrage • Nov 18, 2006 11:01 pm
Thanks. I appreciate that, as well as the PM from SG.
At least I know there would be some ramps.
wolf • Nov 19, 2006 12:20 am
Elspode wrote:
Why in the name of all that is Holy do we kill each other? Why can we not all live in harmony, and shop for our vegetables in peace?


The problem, I think, is that some of these people are killing each other in the name of all that is Holy to them.
DanaC • Nov 19, 2006 8:38 am
The problem, I think, is that some of these people are killing each other in the name of all that is Holy to them


And others in the name of what is sacrosacnt to them......and in the name of whatever might most benefit their country.
Sundae • Nov 27, 2006 1:10 pm
Another stroll through the city centre, with commentary.

Quite random again I'm afraid, without even nearly falling over for your delight. One of these days I'll plan it properly in advance and show you something of real interest and make intelligent observations. In the mean time it's just me wandering about in my lunch hour and trying not to get annoyed with the other pedestrians. Can't they see I'm doing my programme?!

Genuine apologies for the sound quality. It is poorer than it should be as I didn't account for the wind (Leicester is the windiest place I have ever lived). I'll keep my mouth closer to the mike on top of the camera if I do another one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOyC-5urvbA
glatt • Nov 27, 2006 1:31 pm
I like these strolls. Looks like a nice place to live. Lots of hubub, but pedestrian friendly.
Sundae • Dec 11, 2006 6:03 pm
I haven't tampered with this (as you can tell from the reflection of the lights!). Spectacular sunset tonight - the colours are true as far as I could tell.

View from the office:
Happy Monkey • Dec 11, 2006 6:07 pm
Space invaders!!!!
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 11, 2006 9:24 pm
Oh boy, anal probe time. :lol:
BigV • Jun 12, 2007 5:42 pm
Homesick, SG?
Sundae • Jun 12, 2007 6:01 pm
BigV;354247 wrote:
Homesick, SG?

I'm still here :)

I was just checking out what I'd previously posted. I might do a stroll along Queens Road (the road I live on) before I go.

Then I'll start a new London thread.
But maybe I'll borrow my to-be housemate's camera - I didn't realise what low quality the videos were! It's enought o make me think Bruce was teasing me about the camera jerk. Then again I can only watch them with no sound here - it might make it more obvious.
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 12, 2007 8:51 pm
Your videos a better than most.