Why do I love George Bush?
How come this dude is still around? Shouldn't one of his secret service agents have pushed him down a stairwell by now? Jeez!
Because the majority of Americans believe George is right and you're a whacko. :smack:
I am longing to save energy up here in northern Idaho. If the Law of the Conservation of Matter won't work, I'm certain that remaining on daylight saving's time will.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to catch a few photons on the steps to the Science Building before enduring the last round of my class on "Science for Humanities Majors" before the weekend.
Much as i do hate georgie-porgie, it's not really him doing all this stuff. It's the man behind the curtain---CHENEY. And his cronies. Bush is simply a mouthpiece and I'm beginning to suspect that he is figuring out his GOP will leave him to drown in his own stew. They don't care about him, and he's finally 'getting' it. That's why he looks so weird lately. Well, that and they put a new chip in his neck...
I love George Bush's wrinkled forehead always suspended on a moment of incomprehension.
US president hurt and sent to hospital because of a pretzel !
Endless imagination to find new weapons !
I vote to call them "freedom pretzel" :)
Because the majority of Americans believe George is right and you're a whacko. :smack:
the majority is half wrong about that.
the majority is half wrong about that.
:lol2:
Because, next to him, I'm a good actor.
Have you heard the
audio (real media only, look for "Hear the rehearsal" under picture) of the prep for this? It's understandable that this kind of thing has to be arranged. I have to make conference calls from time to time and it takes some planning. You can't just ring'em up and start chatting. And clearly the White House staff went to considerable effort to get this thing together, he's the freakin' President fer cryin out loud. Understandable.
But to claim that it's not scripted, which is exactly the term the (I'm sure now former) staffer uses, is just not believable. To say "the President just wants to chat" is completely bullsh*t. The whole thing is stage managed from soup to nuts and any other characterization is just delusional self denial. Not. So. This was a total public relations effort. Now quit wasting my oxygen.
edit: wrestled with links, won at last
Marichiko, your poll is AFU. It's because not one of your answers is right.
But should I expect something different from someone as stupidly resentful as yourself?
Rhetorical question.
I like my man George enough to vote for him both times because he treats tyrannies the way they ought to be treated -- as test ranges for new weapons systems, new strategies, new stratagems, and new modes of warfare upon tyrannies. Stomping out tyrannies is always good. Making democracies grow from the ashes is even better. Your AFU poll, Mari, included none of this, which leaves it lame -- it doesn't have legs. This is because you can't credit these ideas as real. Your view is too narrow, too parochial.
I like the so-called "neocon agenda." It's more of a disparately-aimed general tendency of mind than an organized, prioritized agenda. The revenge of the West upon the totalitarian oppressors is both awesome and salutary. It's even good for Mari, though she will neither understand nor admit this.
You know, UG, I'm sure you've been asked before, but where in the hell inthe Constitution does it say we have to fight other people's wars for them? We managed to overthrow British rule, how come other countries just don't do the same or else be left to rot? :eyebrow:
Well, Marichiko: put up with the rampant evil of totalitarianism much? :eyebrow: You can bet both cheeks of your ass that you do, you who glory in your miserable shame! I, on the other hand, do not, even while acknowledging that foreign policy decisions involve trying somehow to reconcile diametrically opposed imperatives -- as in Azerbaijan.
That, dear Marichiko, is why I'm a better human being than you are. You're not going to rise to my level until you start thinking more like me. For an instance, I'm not selfish about good governance; it need not be the exclusive property of the United States of America. I've been around the world and I've seen bad governance and I've seen what it does to the human spirit. The human world needs less of that, and more democracy.
As for just leaving them to rot, have you considered what happens when the resulting abscess in the global body politic breaks? General war, as a rule. Have you not railed against the expenses of war? Your policy would engender a great many extra wars.
This kind of myopia is why I keep telling you, and expect to keep telling you for the next forty years, by which time I'll be ninety and you may be dead, that you're old enough to know better than this.
UG, where is the US military presence in Rwanda, in N. Korea, in China, in the "K-stan" republics that are lapsing back into dictatorship and totalitarism? Where is the US military in Sri Lanka, site of what has got to be one of the most unjust and deadly civil wars in recent history? What about the "disappeared" in Argentina? What about the "killing fields" of Cambodia? Where were we, then? The US cannot go to war on behalf of every oppressed people on the face of the planet. Your argument holds no merit.
Even if the US could engage in endless military actions, it is a well known fact that people don't appreciate the things that are handed to them on a silver platter. If your theory were correct, then I would submit to you that the rest of the world's people needs to grow up and stop acting like spoiled teenagers who want someone else to do their homework. The US needs to stop worrying about everyone else's freedom and watch dog its own.
Calling your opponents names will not win them over to your side. I sir, am an ass, and will remain so, call me however many perjoratives you wish, until your fingers grow stiff from carpel tunnel syndrome.
UG, where is the US military presence in Rwanda, in N. Korea, in China, in the "K-stan" republics that are lapsing back into dictatorship and totalitarism? Where is the US military in Sri Lanka...?
Why wonder, when it is clear that the problems presented by these four-plus trouble spots could be solved by the application of infinite manpower and infinite funds?
We have neither, therefore strategy is necessary. I understand this, even if you pretend you don't.
Think, woman,
think.I sir, am an ass, and will remain so, call me however many perjoratives [sic] you wish. . .
You sympathize with the views of the likes of Tom Tomorrow and Ted Rall, for... Jay-zus. (The one being to all intents and purposes a dilute version of the other, and every bit as actually funny.)
My overriding and I believe permanently standing point, you vis-à-vis me, is that you could be something better than an ass. Your reluctance to be so constitutes no deficiency on my part. Who does that leave, the Dalai Lama??
You sympathize with the views of the likes of Tom Tomorrow and Ted Rall, for... Jay-zus. (The one being to all intents and purposes a dilute version of the other, and every bit as actually funny.)
My overriding and I believe permanently standing point, you vis-à-vis me, is that you could be something better than an ass. Your reluctance to be so constitutes no deficiency on my part. Who does that leave, the Dalai (sic) Lama??
Who is Ted Rall? I am always interested to hear of potential sympathizers to my decidedly iconoclastic and largely irreverent philosophy re politics and life in general.
The last person who mentioned His Holiness, the Dali Lama, to me was an unrepentant criminal. Why are you bringing the Dali Lama into your reply? Are you suggesting that you emulate him or are you requesting of me that I do so? The Dali Lama is unashamedly pacifist, by the way.
We have neither, therefore strategy is necessary. [/I]
In the case of Iraq, for example, the strategy is something along the lines of "We can kick their asses pretty easy, and we won't get nuked in the process, so let's go do them first. We'll talk about really dangerous regeimes later, m'kay..."
Then, the hope is that places like North Korea will see us over there in Iraq doing a great job of kicking ass and setting things right, and subsequently give up their Evil Axis Membership Cards and start singing Kumbaya so we won't come do the same to them.
I know it sounds dicey, but it *is* strategy. Time will tell if it was *good* strategy.
We have neither, therefore strategy is necessary. [/I]
In the case of Iraq, for example, the strategy is something along the lines of "We can kick their asses pretty easy, and we won't get nuked in the process, so let's go do them first. We'll talk about really dangerous regeimes later, m'kay..."
Then, the hope is that places like North Korea will see us over there in Iraq doing a great job of kicking ass and setting things right, and subsequently give up their Evil Axis Membership Cards and start singing Kumbaya so we won't come do the same to them. In the meantime, the strategy would be a lot more effective if all the damn peaceniks and hippies would shut the hell up and get with the program. They're all making us look weak and ineffective. You remember what happened the last time, don't you? We lost the war, and Vietnam became a no-good Commie country. All because a bunch of damn dirty dopehead, free-love peacenik hippies messed with the strategy!
I know this all sounds dicey, but it *is* a form of strategy. Time will tell if it was *good* strategy.
I would also like everyone to take note how the fall of S. Vietnam ushered in world wide communism, along with lots of stuff made by the communist Chinese pretending to be capitalists, now available at your local Walmart. :eyebrow:
My overriding and I believe permanently standing point, you vis-à-vis me, is that you could be something better than an ass.
Well, at least she has something to aspire to. I'm afraid you have reached your evolutionary plateau and will remain homo posterior.
Why wonder, when it is clear that the problems presented by these four-plus trouble spots could be solved by the application of infinite manpower and infinite funds?
We have neither, therefore strategy is necessary. I understand this, even if you pretend you don't. Think, woman, think.
This is the funny bit here. While you fantasize about blowing the budget and getting American kids killed in your favorite hell-hole, you crack down on another stupid idea that comes from the same kind of world redemptive Wilsonian thinking you are guilty of.
Well, at least she has something to aspire to. I'm afraid you have reached your evolutionary plateau and will remain homo posterior.
BS, Rich, as I expect to tell you very frequently. Your sneers, my dear, readily patronizable fellow, are invalid because your
model is wrong, and an attempt -- not for the first time -- to bolster your ego by assailing mine is the mark of an immature mind. You suffer overmuch from fatuity, though I don't think you're actually stupid, unlike a few I could name -- just a bit ignorant and maybe prejudiced by your environment, to borrow a phrase from Heinlein.
"Fantasize about blowing the budget"? That is what I'm cautioning against. And you actually missed that?
Hellhole? Is it not a reliable bet that hells on earth are made in places with totalitarian regimes? -- places that are not libertarian enough and thus poor and oppressed?
Wilsonian? There are two fundamental choices here: either passively accept the badness of the world and do nothing about the kind of people who displease themselves so much with us as to fly our airplanes into our buildings -- an action widely understood to be unjust -- or get proactive, excise these tumors from the body politic, global and local (the only real difference between the two is how long you have to journey to get there) and get a better world thereby. Personally, I've had enough of being the longsuffering target of every planarian fucker with a bomb and a grudge, and of putting up with the world's badness, and I'm of the view it needs a pretty dramatic reduction.
I am at bottom an optimist, Griff. You are fundamentally a pessimist, and you want everyone who claims libertarian beliefs to be the same kind of passivist pessimist you are. You cannot get this sick miserable thing you want. I advise you, for the sake of your own good mental hygiene, to stop wanting it.
You cannot, Griff, now or ever, persuade me of the rightness of your pessimist view. Friendly advice: the next time you get the urge to convert me to your pessimism, and I've read enough of your posts to expect there will be a next time, remember that that is where you get off, where you fuck off, where you stay fucked off, and really far off. About eleven parsecs will do, I suppose. (I've been reading Barnett's Celestial Handbook [3 vols] and am likely to sprinkle astronomical references through my posts for a while yet.) I'm not going to hear it; stop uttering it and say something constructive instead.
I would also like everyone to take note how the fall of S. Vietnam ushered in world wide communism, along with lots of stuff made by the communist Chinese pretending to be capitalists, now available at your local Walmart. :eyebrow:
Your view's misplaced, Mari. It ushered in two and a half million unnecessary deaths and a dozen years of systemic poverty. Stupid waste on either count, and something the practice of Communism causes. Vietnam only began to come out of its induced poverty and stagnated economy when it abandoned the general practice of Communism. This abandonment will be complete when Hanoi no longer calls for it as a sort of state religion. Laos, another fallen domino, AFAIK, is still bogged down in Communism. Heroin's probably their only growth sector.
Time may cure people of the malady of collectivist totalitarianism, since in an evolutionary paradigm, Communists survive less well, have shorter average lifespans, and make poorer use of earthly resources and in the end get out-bred by the capitalists with their better resource use and longer lifespans -- but eliminating the regimes that enforce Communism would get the job done far quicker. And how much of the world's misery will be forestalled?
Who is Ted Rall? I am always interested to hear of potential sympathizers to my decidedly iconoclastic and largely irreverent philosophy re politics and life in general.
The last person who mentioned His Holiness, the Dali Lama, to me was an unrepentant criminal. Why are you bringing the Dali Lama into your reply? Are you suggesting that you emulate him or are you requesting of me that I do so? The Dali Lama is unashamedly pacifist, by the way.
I see you remain unable to get the point. Pitiful. Ever heard of a rhetorical question? (I know what the answer to that one is.)
And I do not encourage the spread of Ted Rall's kind of "thinking." He's a very nasty piece of work. Try a Google search, you lazy hemipygian ass. Your want of initiative and intellectual curiosity is truly spectacular.
"Fantasize about blowing the budget"? That is what I'm cautioning against. And you actually missed that?
I missed that in your unnuanced support for the Bush regime and its war of choice.
Wilsonian? There are two fundamental choices here: either passively accept the badness of the world and do nothing about the kind of people who displease themselves so much with us as to fly our airplanes into our buildings -- an action widely understood to be unjust -- or get proactive, excise these tumors from the body politic, global and local (the only real difference between the two is how long you have to journey to get there) and get a better world thereby. Personally, I've had enough of being the longsuffering target of every planarian fucker with a bomb and a grudge, and of putting up with the world's badness, and I'm of the view it needs a pretty dramatic reduction.
You prescribe the disease to treat it.
I am at bottom an optimist, Griff. You are fundamentally a pessimist, and you want everyone who claims libertarian beliefs to be the same kind of passivist pessimist you are. You cannot get this sick miserable thing you want. I advise you, for the sake of your own good mental hygiene, to stop wanting it.
I remain a pessimist about government action (force) and an optimist about human action.
An optimistic thought: Someday America's government will limit itself to the borders of the Constitution and will no longer be the tool of every half-baked utopian.
Your view's misplaced, Mari. It ushered in two and a half million unnecessary deaths and a dozen years of systemic poverty. Stupid waste on either count, and something the practice of Communism causes. Vietnam only began to come out of its induced poverty and stagnated economy when it abandoned the general practice of Communism. This abandonment will be complete when Hanoi no longer calls for it as a sort of state religion. Laos, another fallen domino, AFAIK, is still bogged down in Communism. Heroin's probably their only growth sector.
I am no fan of death and poverty, but the reasons given for the war at the time was to prevent the fall of all of Asia to Communism, NOT a humanitarian concern for the people of S. Vietnam. Yes, a couple of "domino's" fell, but it was not the colossal collapse that great Republican minds were predicting at the time.
BTW, your habit of making multiple posts all at once is confusing. Its easy to address several issues in one post.
See?
I see you remain unable to get the point. Pitiful. Ever heard of a rhetorical question? (I know what the answer to that one is.)
And I do not encourage the spread of Ted Rall's kind of "thinking." He's a very nasty piece of work. Try a Google search, you lazy hemipygian ass. Your want of initiative and intellectual curiosity is truly spectacular.
Sorry, I still don't get the point about the Dali Lama.
Ooooh, and I love Ted Rall! Thank you! I finally looked him up!
Two and a half million unnecessary deaths seem sufficiently colossal. And that's for Vietnam alone. Add two-plus million unnecessarily dead Khmers to the butcher's bill for Cambodia... Laos... we should have made taking North Vietnam our objective, along with tying Red China's dick in a knot and telling them to like it. Limited wars are losing wars...
And Ted Rall is as much a walking embodiment of wrongness as Michael Crook. Emetic, the both of them.
Well, I'm not going to refight the Vietnam War with you, UG. I won't argue that the number of deaths in that part of the world, Cambodia's killing fields, included, has not been a great human tragedy. However, Pol Pot might never have siezed power but for the US invasion which destabilized the country.
And Ted Rall is as much a walking embodiment of wrongness as Michael Crook. Emetic, the both of them.
Rall is a walking embodiment of violent opinion. When he's right he's devastating, and when he's wrong he's disgusting.
I missed that in your unnuanced support for the Bush regime and its war of choice.
It's my war too, Griff. I also consider that an array of choices came to an end on 9/11, or earlier. Finally, after decades of ineffectuality, we have a President who does what's supposed to be done. It is also fortunate that he is the second such President in recent times.
You prescribe the disease to treat it.
Democratization is a disease? Progression towards libertarian social orders is a disease? Removing the evil of totalitarianism is a disease?
Griff, I'm willing myself not to explode. I want action taken; you don't, and will give singularly bad and unwise counsel to achieve that -- passivism. End of story.
I remain a pessimist about government action (force) and an optimist about human action.
Nice line of Libertarian rabblerousing -- but it doesn't duly credit the indisputable fact that government is a human thing also, and staffed by humans moreover. Our foes oppress us with what? -- righteous indignation, or force? Countervailing force is not wrong.
HM, it's the disgusting that leaves the lasting taste. Ptui!
Our foes oppress us with what? -- righteous indignation, or force?
Our foes don't oppress us at all.
HM, I'd call three thousand dead of a Tuesday morning sufficiently oppressive,wouldn't you? They're trying to coerce us with murders. Let us kill them instead.
UG, I disagree.
Although 9/11 was tragic, and killed a lot of people in a manner that is very rare in America (hostile, dramatic, large-scale, and relatively sudden), people here die all the time to other causes. <A href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8792158/">Some 42,636 people died on the nation’s highways in 2004</a>.
What has been oppressive, however, are the actions afterwards. The PATRIOT Act is a very clear-cut case of oppressive legislation, threatening as it does freedom of speech, of the press, & simple privacy. There are other, more debatable examples: Iraq. (I have done no research.)
Oppression in my mind is something more omnipresent than one Tuesday morning. A regime, a way of life. A single act of terrorism is oppressive only if its shock value is milked for fear and, in turn, one allows him or herself to be oppressed & controlled by it--to <i>live</i> in fear of it. One is, I believe, still under the control of someone else if, regardless of how long after the fact, they act only for revenge & retribution.
The best way to fight terrorism is not to be afraid: to continue to live.
They're trying to coerce us with murders. Let us kill them instead.
We're killing a lot more than "them".
The Patriot Act is peanuts. Nothing. Zip.
Women made up 7 percent of all inmates in state and federal prisons last year and accounted for nearly one in four arrests, the government reported Sunday.
...
"The number of incarcerated women has been growing ... due in large part to sentencing policies in the war in drugs," The Sentencing Project, a group promoting alternatives to prison, said in a statement.
The group said the number of drug offenders in prisons and jails has risen from 40,000 in 1980 to more than 450,000 today. According to FBI figures, law officers in 2004 made more arrests for drug violations than for any other offense - about 1.7 million arrests, or 12.5 percent of all arrests.
Those sentenced for drug offenses made up 55 percent of federal inmates in 2003, the report said.
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The Sentencing Project said the continued rise in prisoners despite falling crime rates raises questions about the country's imprisonment system. The group said the incarceration rate - 724 per 100,000 - is 25 percent higher than that of any other nation.
Don't worry, the Patriot Act will be used to boost those drug arrests, too.
The Patriot Act is peanuts. Nothing. Zip.
The government has not revealed the total number of people detained by the Department of Justice since the terrorist attacks on 9/11, but immigration advocates believe that it is between three and five thousand. It is known, however, that this group is almost entirely Arab, South Asian, or Muslim and most have been deported or allowed to leave the country. None of the detainees has been charged with any terrorism-related crime. These secret detentions exemplify the dramatic erosion of constitutional rights under the Bush administration.
No, 3,000 or so arrests in comparison to all those drugs arrests ain't much, but the arrests of 3,000 who were NEVER charged with a crime is NOT "Nothing."
Let's summarize a few of the fun things the government can now do:
Conduct “sneak and peek” searches, which allow law enforcement to enter people’s homes and search their belongings without informing them until long after;
Direct a library, bookstore or newspaper to produce “tangible things,” e.g, the titles of books an individual has purchased or borrowed or the identity of individuals who have purchased or borrowed certain books;
Authorize the use of devices to trace the telephone calls or e-mails of people who are not suspected of any crime;
Investigate American citizens and permanent legal residents and seek information on the basis of activities protected by the First Amendment (e.g., writing a letter to the editor or attending a rally).
The government’s investigative powers extend to people not suspected of any terrorist activities and those ordered to provide information are barred from mentioning the investigation to anyone.
But, gee, the government would NEVER mis-use these powers, now would it? This is the US of A, after all and every single civil servent, elected official, FBI agent, cop, CIA operative, etc. is a pure, shining angel from heaven.
Oh, ye of little faith!
Its inspiring to read your posts sometimes, UT. Your child-like innocence is so - refreshing. :rolleyes:
Please point to a non-moonbat site with proof of the 3-5000 detainees.
Is the ACLU a moonbat outfit? :worried: If not, I'll give the link.
Not. And by the way, if they were merely deported for visa violations or overstays, that will not count.
More
information than you ever wanted to wade through is available on ACLU's site. The problem UT, is that these were CLOSED hearings. No one and I mean NO ONE was allowed to know what was going on. These people were held without have access to legal counsel; many times even their own families didn't know what had happened to them, and many were subject to the most brutal and inhumane treatment possible. And these people were NOT terrorists.
Not good enough, right? I know you know what you need for a cite.
An indicriminate number treated to closed-door hearings in which there was brutal treatment ought to generate at least one link clearly explaining what happened, if someone has a story or case. I went through the information and all I could find in numbers was 700 deportees in the month post-9/11. Boo fucking hoo. Knowing how weak the visa system was at the time, and the sort of people permitted in and forgotten about, I would have hoped that number would be higher.
Oh, come on, UT! You are an intelligent man. I didn't think I'd have to spoonfeed you. There is more information than you can shake a stick at just by clicking on the
links in the site I gave above. Should keep you busy the rest of the evening reading it all. Here's the
legal brief :eyebrow:
Nice try, but after the strike is called you can stop swinging.
Well, if you're too lazy to read, I can't help you out. I read or glanced over 4 or 5 of their supporting legal documents and press releases. This is the
one that impressed me the most. But if you want to call the game on account of rain, that's fine by me. I have a legal matter myself that's coming up in the morning that I need to prepare for, anyhow. :p
Several of the documents ( just picked a few at random) mention hundreds of detainees in New Jersey alone.
Troublesome, but unrelated; they were detained before the Patriot Act was even passed.
In fact one could make an argument that the Patriot Act relieves the conditions that might require such broad brush behavior by the authorities.
Another swing perhaps?
OK, here's the
exact page that gave the 3,000 - 5,000 number. Sorry that I didn't point you directly to it before. There's a lot of stuff on that site and I'm pretty tired at the moment. Now I really AM going to go do my own legal preparations. :dead:
Is the ACLU a moonbat outfit?
Yes.
The few shreds of credibility they retained fluttered away in the wind generated by their defense of the child molesters.
They defended child molesters?!? Really? What was THAT all about? YUCK! I can't believe the ACLU would do that. Tell me more about the case. :worried:
Khaled Albitar, Khaled, Naeem, Khurram, Khaled K. Abu-Shabayek, Husain Raza, Sadek Awaed, Sadwar Yamen, Benamar Benatta, Anser Mehmood.......
Look at those names.......they must be guilty. :lol:
They defended child molesters?!?
They defend rights. Other parts of society are most likely to let rights slide in the case of scum like child molesters, but if you let them slide in one place, that becomes precedent.
When the ACLU takes a case, it's not about the individual, but the point of law.
They defend rights. Other parts of society are most likely to let rights slide in the case of scum like child molesters, but if you let them slide in one place, that becomes precedent.
They defend rights. Other parts of society are most likely to let rights slide in the case of scum like child molesters, but if you let them slide in one place, that becomes our President. ;)
They certainly defend rights in general, but no one has the right to harm a child. Details, please. :eyebrow:
Hmmmm... Yeah, so they are not actually defending child molester's per se. I think they bring up a very good point in their statement about each individual being accountable for his own actions. A person can't push responsibility off on Hostess Cup-cakes or the deranged writings of someone else and say "the devil made me do it."
I have a difficult time with the legitimacy of child porn in writing or pictures, however I do understand the slippery slope problem. Its not an easy question, but the ACLU was not defending people's right to molest children, Wolf.
ACLU's statement where they say "defending child molesters doesn't mean we support child molesting."
Which is so obvious, it shouldn't need to be repeated for every case they take. But the fact that it
shouldn't need to be repeated doesn't mean it
doesn't need to be repeated.
Someone does X.
The government does Y, in response to X.
If the ACLU believes that Y is wrong, they take the case. X is irrelevant.
Look at those names.......they must be guilty. :lol:
They defend rights. Other parts of society are most likely to let rights slide in the case of scum like child molesters, but if you let them slide in one place, that becomes our President. ;)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
If the ACLU believes that Y is wrong, they take the case. X is irrelevant.
Which makes them amoral scum, IMHO. And it's not whether they believe Y is wrong, it's whether they believe that fighting Y will help maintain or increase their funding from fringe groups -- their only source of power, by the way.
The ACLU began nobly, answering real problems and fighting real injustice. Once their mission was accomplished (i.e., blacks have attained their rightful equality in the eyes of the law), they didn't want to let go of their lobbying power. So now, they'll jump into bed with anyone, no matter how repugnant, to keep their jobs and maintain the illusion of relevancy.
Screw em. :rar:
Wow! The ACLU's mission was accomplished! There's no more real injustice.
That's good to know.
And it's definitely whether they think Y is wrong. They defend people from across the political spectrum, even though they are primarily attacked from the right.
Ahem.
The ACLU began in 1920. It was not established for the express purpose of winning racial equality. In its first year, the ACLU fought the campaign of harassment and deportation ordered by U.S. Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer against politically radical immigrants, supported the right of Industrial Workers of the World members and other trade unionists to hold meetings and organize, and secured the release of hundreds of activists imprisoned for their anti-war views and activities.
In 1925, it was the ACLU who hired attorney Clarence Darrow for the defense in the infamous Scopes "monkey" trial in Tennessee which, if you will recall, had to do with teaching evolution in the public schools.
I'm glad that you feel the work of the ACLU is done in this age of racial harmony, intelligent design, and the Patriot Act.
I disagree, and so do the people who continue to donate money to this private, non-profit organization. :eyebrow:
Ted Rall's comic is a largely one-note affair: the Bush bashing of the lunatic fringe, in the manner that is fashionable there, and it does not rise above that. Doesn't strike me as exercise of either intellect or soul, but it sure smells of some alleged adult who's never taken off the Red Diaper. I've some experience of Soviet political cartooning -- Rall's stuff wrt The Leader Of The Free World looks like underground Soviet political cartoons, as approved by the higherups of the Ministry of Culture.
No, I do not love Ted Rall. His website comment after Reagan's death about Reagan "turning crispy brown in hell about now" gives deep offense, and to speak ill of the dead so bespeaks an appalling lack of class. I'd first written "want" there, but I don't see the man wanting class. He merely lacks it. While the man has a right to show the entire planet what a damned ass he is, he won't be selling me any collections of his work. I'll invoke Marichiko's sig about how some people are like Slinkies. It's apposite here.
Which makes them amoral scum, IMHO. And it's not whether they believe Y is wrong, it's whether they believe that fighting Y will help maintain or increase their funding from fringe groups -- their only source of power, by the way.
Actually, they gain much of their funding by requesting (and getting) the judge hearing their case to order that the losing side pay their legal fees in addition to the damages award, if any. So, not only do they get the standard percentage of the damages (up to half), they get all their billable hours, experts, and supplies paid.
They bill rather exhorbinantly, by all reports.
Ahem.
The ACLU began in 1920. It was not established for the express purpose of winning racial equality. In its first year, the ACLU fought the campaign of harassment and deportation ordered by U.S. Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer against politically radical immigrants, supported the right of Industrial Workers of the World members and other trade unionists to hold meetings and organize, and secured the release of hundreds of activists imprisoned for their anti-war views and activities.
Yes, they're commies.
Next question?
Yeppers, the American Way is to go to war and kill people while imprisoning those who question the government's decision , silence dissenting views, and refuse workers the right to organize in order to negotiate reasonable working conditions and wages.
I know! Let's send everyone who disagrees with Junior's little adventure in Iraq to Alaska, round up everyone with a surname that sounds funny to detention centers in the middle of the night, and award the contracts for housing the resulting prisoners to Halliburten and company. That will show the damn Commies!
You know, Wolf, I think you'd be much happier living under a small Latin American dictatorship somewhere - say Paraguay, perhaps. Brazil is interesting, too, if you want a larger arena.
Marichiko [a very, um, ethnic sort of handle, hmm? The sort that might have gotten you interned in CA forty-five years ago], I don't seem to remember that you're writing from a Colorado jail cell. Excuse me while I fail to suppress laughter at how easy you are to poke a hole in, you LST.* If we can't tell it's satire, we're going to take it straight.
*Landing Ship (Tank). A large amphibious-landing vessel, which was also about as fast as a Liberty Ship, and thus nicknamed Large Stationary Target by bored wardroom wags.
You know, Wolf, I think you'd be much happier living under a small Latin American dictatorship somewhere - say Paraguay, perhaps. Brazil is interesting, too, if you want a larger arena.
I have this picture of Wolf as the new Eva Peron. ;)
"Don't cry for me ..... what the (*&)(*& is the name of this place again?"
If we can't tell it's satire, we're going to take it straight.
"We" who, white boy? :lol:
i will never boycott liberalism, and i agree with everything michael moore says. america is full of brainwashed, half retarded robots. you dumbasses just cant face facts. this evil, disgusting country, the usa, is gonna go down. i do not support our troops, and i do not support america, cuz most of america is to fucking stupid to form their own opinion, or to glance away from britany spears or american idol long enough to know how bush and this sick ass government is controlling us and draining us for our money. we are slaves to the rich here in america. if you dont have money in this superficial, materialistic, contradictory hypocritical fake ass country, you're not considered a human. everyone who works for or supports the united states WILL go to hell. this country is the best example of evil you can get. fuck america. bush planned the 9/11 catastrophy to have an excuse to move his robot pawns, the military, bomb iraq, take it over, and steal all of iraq's oil. finishing his daddy's business. doing the illuminati's biddings. this whole country is fake, and it is a good example of a new rome, cuz this weak ass, evil, corrupt country of the unfree will fall and collapse. 2 examples of how stupid and brainwashed americans are: the new saying here in this pathetic land of the weak and brainwashed; freedom isn't free. well, if freedom isn't free, then it's not freedom, right, you fucking dumbasses? how stupid does a whole country have to be to fall for some dumb ass shit like that? it's a paradox if freedom isnt free. so, if freedom isnt free, then its not freedom. this country IS NOT FREE!!!! you can't even smoke a plant that is grown COMPLETELY naturally (marijuana) for god's sake, cuz the government doesn't know how to tax and mooch off of it. second;equality for everyone... if every man in this hypocritical, fake ass weak country was created equal, why haven't we ever had any black presidents? why no women presidents? i hate this fucking country and i hope all pro-bush patriotic cock suckers go to fucking hell and burn forever with their retarded monkey president, bush! iraq will rise and kill off this nuisance country! I AM PRO-IRAQ! I HOPE ALL OUR DUMBASS TROOPS DIE! THERE IS NO TERRORISTS EXCEPT FOR AMERICA, THE COUNTRY THAT HAS NO HUMANITY, THE COUNTRY WHERE MONEY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN PEOPLE, THE COUNTRY THAT LIES, THE GREEDIEST COUNTRY FULL OF THE MOST HEARTLESS, SELFISH, RESOURCE WASTING, OBESE, BRAINWASHED IDIOTS ON THIS PLANET!!! AMERICA WILL BURN IN HELL!!!!
p.s. : why does 1% of this country own 93% of the money, and the rest of us 99% only own 7%? where is the equality there?
fuck bush and fuck america...
blah blah blah... I AM PRO-IRAQ! I HOPE ALL OUR DUMBASS TROOPS DIE! THERE IS NO TERRORISTS EXCEPT FOR AMERICA, .. blah blah blah
Urbane Guerrilla, is that you?
another robot. go get yourself killed for the pockets of bush, you brainwashed idiot. thats all youre good for.
I wasn't going to post on this thread as I don't know enough about your politics. But I just wanted to applaud deimos420.
Not for the sentiment, but for managing to couple lower case ranting with near perfect punctuation (that angry and still managing correct use of colon & semi-colon when writing a list?)
Of course I do stress near perfect. "Daddy's" is correct where I might expect it not to be. "Cant" and "dont" on the other hand....
Almost seems fake, doesn't it? Like no real person would have that opinion?
Happily, no, it's not, Glatt. Just some "robot mind of robot slave, might as well be in an atomic grave" for all the influence he'll have. Guy comes off like a stupider, less grammatical edition of Rubato over on Cyber Soap Box -- about the same emotional maturity level.
The poor SOB can't even understand that the equality is in the opportunity -- not the result. Equality of result happens from excessive government interference, which should not be done.
I'm assuming, of course, that he isn't faking something up to make the Left look even more stupid. It's better for RW'ers' integrity if they assume the LW needs no help in that direction -- remember the Paul Wellstone Funeral & Pep Rally? This is the kind of thing the Democratic Party thinks is appropriate behavior these days. Bleah.
This is the kind of thing the Democratic Party thinks is appropriate behavior these days. Bleah.
Yeah, and the nerve of them.....stealing Rove's playbook. Disgusting. :eyebrow:
I know! Let's send everyone who disagrees with Junior's little adventure in Iraq to Alaska,
We can't send them to Alaska. They'll get in the way of the oil drilling.
deimos420 doesn't care about any of the other shit. The legalization of marijuana is his only real issue.
I have to agree with wolf here. deimos420 is beyond the pale, pale, pale. If deimos420 must rant and rave I INSIST he/she understand and employ the very basics of the English language that he/she flogs, with impunity, to a fibrous pulp. If deimos can/will not, I will flush his/her opinion down the terlet along with all the other ebonic-speakers and similar ilk(s). Or, whatever. :Flush:
We can't send them to Alaska. They'll get in the way of the oil drilling.
Halliburten has its ways around that. Not to worry. :cool:
Man, just think about what the world <a href="http://accstudios.com/index.htm">might have been like</a>!
<i>It is 2021, tomorrow is the 20th anniversary of 9/11. America is under oppression by ultra-liberal extremists who have surrendered governing authority to the United Nations. Hate speech legislation called the “Coulter Laws” have forced vocal conservatives underground. A group of bio-mechanically enhanced conservatives led by Sean Hannity, G. Gordon Liddy, Oliver North, and a young man born on September 11, 2001, set out to thwart Ambassador Usama bin Laden's plans to nuke New York City.</i>
Man, check out <a href="http://accstudios.com/f/comicpreview_page_covera.htm">Liddy on the motorcycle</a>. What a badass.
that is because, unlike most americans, education is more important to me that what's on TV. you see, most people in this country are patriotic because they can't form their own opinion, and their personalities derive from someone they see on TV that leaves an impression on them (eg. chris rock, backdoor fags, brittany spears, etc.). ppl in this country are fake. example: most of the christian population in this world exists in the USA because here, ppl are to stupid and slow to realize or even care why they chose christianity. most ppl do it cuz their family or friends are christian and they want to fit in. FORM YOUR OWN GOD DAMN OPINION! THAT IS WHY BOY BANDS BECAME SO POPULAR AGAIN! because anything that MTV says is cool, most teenagers will think it's cool. just like what ppl hear on the news, they take it as fact. don't you idiots know that the news is fake? it's ran and regulated by the government, along with all media. the tv is the way the government brainwashes. oh, and voting doesn't matter, either. the illuminati chooses who the next leader is going to be. most americans are followers and sheep. their shepard is the TV. i am a leader in my own mind. i make my own decisions and form my own opinions. most of your minds and opinions are formed by TV. it's just an easier way for you simple minded robot pawns of the USA and Illuminati.
I have to agree with wolf here. deimos420 is beyond the pale, pale, pale. If deimos420 must rant and rave I INSIST he/she understand and employ the very basics of the English language that he/she flogs, with impunity, to a fibrous pulp. If deimos can/will not, I will flush his/her opinion down the terlet along with all the other ebonic-speakers and similar ilk(s). Or, whatever. :Flush:
first off, using those words don't make you look smart, just like a stupid fat bitch that's trying to look smart. what's a terlet, dumb-fuck? ebonic speakers? what the fuck are you talking about, you retarded idiot? god, what a moron you are! lol! second, i wonder why everyone's downing on me. WAIT! I KNOW WHY! BECAUSE WHAT I WROTE WAS THE TRUTH AND YOU FAKE ASS, BRAINWASHED REDNECKS ARE MAD AT ME ABOUT IT! don't be mad at me. be mad at yourselves for turning out the way you are; a bunch of fat, obese, selfish, fake, follower, fronting ass monkeys that can't form their own opinion without fear of someone criticizing them. damn, you people are EXACTLY what i was writing about. a bunch of lazy, resource wasting, selfish bastards with no one else in mind but yourself. did the TV tell you that the USA are the good guys? is that why you stand behind the USA so much? cuz the television told you to? that's why! keep on believing the governments lies and keep tuning into your master everyday that force feeds you your fake, bullshit opinions. here is how fucking stupid you rednecks are: most of you i KNOW are christian(easy to figure, since most of you are boring, lame, and the same as 90 percent of the population[robots]). murder is a sin. but our government has murdered 100's of thousands of iraqis, and americans for the sake of oil. but you dumbasses agree it's right cuz theyre "terrorists" (even though america is the terrorist capitol of the world). but, if you stop warping your dimwitted, slow, retarded minds with tv for one minute and stop only thinking about yourself and your loved ones, and think about the points and views of the iraqi ppl, then you'd realize they think we're evil. who are we to say we are right and theyre wrong? same goes for them. evil is in the eye of the beholder, folks. i can give a fuck less about your unthoughtful, simple-minded scoldings, but just think about it. i am not a hippie. but i do not agree with my son being killed in iraq a few months ago just because america and the illuminati wants more oil and more power, so they can rule the world. buh bye, sheep.
p.s. I adore watching darkies drown on the evening news 1 5.26%
He's put the terror back in the word "terrorism!" 4 21.05%
It's about time someone got rid of that stupid bill of rights! 6 31.58%
I love my country, but I love my SUV more
damn, how selfish and evil can you get with a poll like this. i love my suv more? all of you cocksuckers need to be brutally murdered along with bush. see all of you in hell, you fucking racist, cracker ass bitches!!!!
Enh. It started strong but as far as trollish rants go, it tails off fast. Attention whoring, self-absorption... and what's with not understanding the sarcasm and point of the poll? That sort of undermines the whole "I am brilliant" section. And if Bush kills your son you should put that up front, not thrown in at the end like an afterthought. I give this rant a D+.
D+ is generous. He obviously didn't "get it" at all. Tried to fit his view of the general population to posters he knows nothing about in a thread he doesn't understand. :headshake
I'm touched. :blush: After he edited his rant, he PMed me.
youre a fake robot bitch, you know that?
well, its not fake like you are, bitch, so get used to it, you greedy asshole. get in your fucking suv and do the world a favor and get in a fatal wreck.
p.s. I adore watching darkies drown on the evening news 1 5.26%
He's put the terror back in the word "terrorism!" 4 21.05%
It's about time someone got rid of that stupid bill of rights! 6 31.58%
I love my country, but I love my SUV more
damn, how selfish and evil can you get with a poll like this. i love my suv more? all of you cocksuckers need to be brutally murdered along with bush. see all of you in hell, you fucking racist, cracker ass bitches!!!!
Gee, and I thought my sarcasm on this one was a little heavy handed. Good thing he hasn't read anything where I used irony or made use of my dry sense of humor.
By the way, deimos, my pals around here just call me an "ass" without the other perjoratives. It saves on typing time. :rolleyes:
Deimos has probably spent too much time on sites where people say stuff like that seriously. On the web it's hard to say anything to outrageously sarcastic that there isn't someone saying it seriously somewhere else.
I like the way he fixates on everyone's weight.
Nothing like an original insult to grab people's attention. Oh, sorry - I meant that was nothing like..... etc etc
I'm touched. :blush: After he edited his rant, he PMed me.
Doesn't matter who you are, you're always
someone's bitch I guess :)
This year, I am proud to say that I am donating a portion of all proceeds from my Xmas panhandling to my local chapter of the Society to Help Humor Impaired Twits (SHHIT). Funds so gathered will go toward the purchase of classic issues of National Lampoon, Mad Magazine and a collection of George Carlin videos to be distributed to people like Deimos. In this way, even the most socially stagnated and politically correct among us can learn the valuable tension-relieving tools of sarcasm, gross exaggeration and comedic hyperbole, thus becoming useful, contributing members of semi-intellectual venues such as The Cellar.
Won't you please help with a donation?
Well, to be fair, I guess he DID totally figure out that I use big words to make myself feel loved and important. Obviously he's a keen, sensitive, Mensa member who is kindly trying (mostly in vain) to illuminate our dark, primitive psyches. And I simply MUST start with the daily aerobics. I mean it. He can tell I'm fat from waaaaay over there. How embarrassing for me!
Funds so gathered will go toward the purchase of classic issues of National Lampoon, Mad Magazine...
[primitive]What's the deal with Mad Magazine sucking ass now? I loved that mag once upon a time.[highjacking]
Dude clearly didn't read the board before posting.
If he had he would have easily identified me as the fat racist cracker ass bitch, Brianna as the strong and courageous heroine who is making a better life for herself, and Marichiko as the liberal weenie.
america sucks. you all are boring and lame. GO IRAQ!!!
p.s. you guys really are the lamest of lame
i won't ever come back cuz you guys just don't know how to throw in good come backs, or give me a challenge. YAWN! oh, and i don't have a son, either. so whoever believed me, HA! now if you boring people will excuse me, i'm going to play half-life 2. i just can't believe i grabbed the attention and anger of a bunch of middle-aged losers like i did, and i'm only 15! hahaha!
Googling around, I found a pic of deimos420. Just wanted to put a face to the name. You're up early for a pothead - it must suck having your dad wake you up on his way out the door.
And people wonder why Wal Mart hires so many illegal aliens.
and i'm only 15! hahaha!
I, for one, am shocked. Shocked!
I'm back to being impressed with his punctuation - and people think teenagers these days are all text-maniacs?
I, for one, am extremely unimpressed. At 15, I was already writing for my school's satirical paper, THE FULCRUM (the official school paper was called THE LEVER). Hey, anyone remember Tomas R.? He was 15, also, I think, and actually brighter than this kid. Tomas! Come back!
Hey, deimos, sorry the witty comebacks around here aren't up to YOUR standards. Er, "you are all boring and lame"? :rolleyes:
I think perhaps something more direct and less filled with difficult references such as Mad Magazine. Perhaps something like, "Deimos totally sucks ass. Like, dude is a lamer, y'know? Totally."
Deimos, repeat after me..."Paper or Plastic? Would you like to supersize that for only 59 cents more? Which shovel should I use in the ditch? Where'dya want me to dump this manure load again?"
Now you can't say you didn't get any preparation for your eventual career choices while you were here at The Cellar.
Actually I was lame for a while after I was knocked down by a car. Perhaps that referred to me specifically?
"you guys are lame". SG, you definitely don't qualify.
BigV, in parts of the midwest, "you guys" is generic. Like in the south where people ask you if you want a coke. Then ask what kind.
i won't ever come back cuz you guys just don't know how to throw in good come backs, or give me a challenge.
It simply proves the old saying - you can't trust anyone under 30.
"The enemy of society is middle class and the enemy of life is middle age."
shows what type of shallow selfish person you are. also, your fat, unhealthy, cottage cheesed ass needs strong MEN (unlike you, you're probably a pale, soft handed, weak middle aged cow) to shovel that horse manure for you while you eat your heart clogging mcdonalds and jack off to your daughter. buh bye.
I agree with everything Deimos420 had to say, and it's pretty sad how he came on here initially expressing his own views, and he got attacked personally for them... As if he struck a nerve... Do i sense a hint of truth in what he says that most of you just don't want to face? I believe so... Also it's pretty fuckin' pathetic how when he posted his views, all of you on this forum totally disregarded his views and went straight into your lame-ass one-liner knit-pickings instead of actually posting YOUR views, but that assuming you actually have views of your own. My advice, peel your fuckin' faces away from the TV and actually develop a personality.... You sheep think that life is what's portrayed to you on the news everyday, and it's pretty sad to think that I live in a country where I'm surrounded by fat retarded monkeys like all of you who think it's "just a joke" and just "sarcasm" to have a sick ass, conceted arrogant poll like the one above.... I wish I can see one of you pieces of shit floating across the Atlantic just to make ends meet for your FAMILY (since you wouldn't be able to do it in your own country, because America, being the only self-sustaining country in the whole world, likes to drain the economic strength from other countries to support fat nazi greasy lazy soccor-mom SUV driving softie pussies like you), and see you laugh about the sarcastic wittiness of the above poll. And as for that son of a bitch "paper or plastic" guy, i'd like to see you HAVE to lay some manure down or dig a ditch to sustain this SOCIALIST ECONOMY OF OURS.... Don't want to, do ya, you fat piece of shit? To out of shape, eh? So shut the fuck up, because if it weren't for them, you wouldn't be able to sit that big cottage cheese ass of yours in front of that TV eating your McDonalds and jackin' off to kiddie porn behind your cheating wife's back in the coziness of your nice home, would ya, you fuckin' useless lump? I'm sure not.... Just because someone has the mental capacity to see through all this prepackaged bullshit and shed some light on the truth doesn't mean all of you assholes in this forum have to feel intellectually intimidated and become hostile.... I know, you're all just to scared to face that you've been duped by this administration, been duped by this society in general, and willingly let it happen because you were more concerned with your SUV and your fuckin burgerking. NEWSFLASH: the news is nothing more than a daily entertainment show, IT'S NOT REALLY REALITY PEOPLE! It's all prefabricated misinformation spoonfed to you so you can look in the other direction while bush and the whole administration rams there cocks in you... But, I will leave all of you overprivilaged ignorant local minded idiots a little tidbit of real information (knowing how sore all of you get when presented with the ugly truth, but hey, it's better than taking all the bullshit they call the "NEWS" as truth)and I'm going to pose it in a question you will quickly answer yourself, and hopefully it will open your closed TV-fed minds just a little bit: How many innocent bystandards have been killed by Iraqis HERE IN THE UNITED STATES since we began bombing Iraq?
I'm not fat.
And most communities have free mental health centers. Peel your face away from the meth and find one.
There's also a thing called Zyprexa.
What is truly disturbing about the above rant is that bill thinks this country gave him a rudimentary education. It's just so sad!
Thank you so much for proving my point, Brianna... See? I tell a point, a clear and precise, logical point, and all this simple minded immature bitch can do is give one liners and personal insults... It's so pathetic... Why don't you just answer the question, Brianna? Are you too scared to think that you've been a puppet all this time? Why can't you apes just opine back instead of the 3rd grader insults you portray as being your views? Damn, I keep forgetting, your too self-important and almighty to do that, because that involves viewing aspects in other peoples point of views, and I can clearly see that you don't even have the capability to do that.... And to correct you on your ignorant statement, you old dusty floppy titty bitch, I'm 100% sober and am a MD... So, you can stick that rudementary education you claim I think I got from this nazi country and stick it in your dry rubbery twat, and clean some of those cobwebs out while you're at it... See, I can insult like a 3rd grader too, hopefully lowering to that level helps me communicate with your immature ass...
And besides Brianna, I don't care if your fat or not.... What do you care if I care, unless your just insecure....
Ok, Doctor Bill. If you had bothered to read any of the other threads in the Cellar you would know that a lot of us do not, in fact, like the current administration. We also gets our news from various sources. We are not sheep. Your increasingly distraught ravings, using third-grader vocabulary and isults ("floppy titty bitch"-? Show me where I make a similar insult to you) leads me to believe that you are mentally ill.
And, being that I do really believe that you are mentally ill, I will quit engaging you. My innate love of mankind does require that I point you in the direction of health. Good luck, Doctor!
Bill have you actually read any posts on this forum? If so I would be interested to know how you can lump together such diverse personalities as Marichiko, TW, Urbane Guerilla and Jaguar (to mention but a few).
And do you really think you will get intelligent and reasoned debate by introducing yourself with a long rant full of unsupported accusation and insult?
If you post like a troll you will be treated like a troll. There, enough time wasted on you in my opinion.
OK... First, to Brianna, for you to tell me that I'm mentally ill just comes to show how ignorant and high-and-mighty you must think of yourself, seeing that this is only my 4th post on this forum... There's your unsupported accusations right there, sundae girl, right from the horses mouth (Brianna).... To tell someone whose only posted thrice before this that they're mentally ill is about as unsupported of accusations you can get. And second, if you show a dislike for this administration, tell me why deimos420 was ATTACKED after he did nothing more than to express HIS dislike for the administration.... Thats pretty damn hypocritical if you ask me... And 3rd, for sundae bitch, UNSUPPORTED ACCUSATIONS? Support yourself on that accusation, sundae, support your accusation that MY accusations are unsupported, because I can guarantee that every word I type is articulate and fully supported... And Brianna, you're callin' my vocabulary 3rd grade? Well, just look at your lezbo friend "Sundae Cunt", calling me a troll... That's about as 3rd grade as you can get... By the way, I have read every one of your threads and they totally stray from what you just posted, you fake-ass hypocrit... So before you throw your UNSUPPORTED ACCUSATIONS out there, do some research or ask questions... It's called having an OPEN MIND
battleaxe bill == deimos420
?
The fisherman moves on when the fish stop biting.
actually, if you must know, grant, I'm deimos's brother..... We sound alot the same, probably because, WERE BRO'S?
Other brother or younger?
The fisherman moves on when the fish stop biting.
Yeah, but some fish like to bite. I was tempted to bite myself.
OK, what the hell. I'll bite.
Battleaxe Bill is not a doctor. I know I'm stating the obvious, but he's no older than 16 years old. His knowledge of basic political theory, his grasp of grammar and his spelling (I shouldn't be throwing stones there, I'll admit) all point to an age of about 15 years old. Nothing wrong with being 15, unless you lie and claim to be a MD. Then you are really just being a prick.
---edit to say that a phone call I took delayed my post by a minute or two. NOw it's really obvious he's no MD and is no more than 15.
actually, if you must know, grant, I'm deimos's brother..... We sound alot the same, probably because, WERE BRO'S?
Actually, what tipped me off was that you both do not write properly in the same ways. You both have pretty decent spelling though.
Admittedly, I haven't read much of this thread but you both seem like pretty big flaming trolls.
OK, glatt, you fuckin' moron... I'll let you bite... I'm 23 years old, actually, just goes to show what an ignorant fuckin moron you are, and my knowledge of basic political theory isn't derived off of 30 minutes with Bill O'reilly like yours... Read a book, and once again, have an open mind before you open your stupid ass mouth full of bullshit you have no idea what your talking about... And with you bitching about my grammar, then turning around and stating "you shouldn't throw stones" because your grammar sucks just states the obvious.... that your penis is painfully small.... See, I can throw out unmittigated bullshit too, you dumbass peice of shit....
And grant, you have the wits of a fuckin retarded middleschooler, like sundae bitch, calling me a troll... How sad that adults (supposedly) actually call other adults trolls, rather than calling them a bitch or a pussy, which I'm calling you...
Whats the matter? Are you low witted buffoons running out of comebacks? Since thats what this is now... Thats what you monkeys turned this whole forum into "He has bad grammar" this and "He's no older than 15" that... Tell ya what, I'll just take my comments and my views to a site where my intellect can actually be challenged, rather than throw around insults with you immature brainwashed robots... Keep suckin' Bush's dick, keep letting the media control your lives, and keep wishing that the truth wasn't there for people with open eyes like me to point it out to you and get all of your panties wedged in your crotches....
Oh, and one more thing to crush all of your simple minded insults.... If i'm 15, and I have bad grammar, and no grasp of political theory (what does political theory have to do with ANYTHING I said today, gratt just likes trying to use big words to make his dumbass feel smart) then why are all of you so intent on arguing back with me??? And Brianna, big words don't make you look smart either... You're still a stupid cunt... Keep convincing yourselves of your Britany Spears Super Bowl Sunday lives, that that's all life consists of, and I'll keep on top of what's going on with the illuminati, something the illuminati slipped right past your head..... FUCK ALL YA'LL, AND I PISS ON AN AMERICAN FLAG!!! WOOHOOO!!!!! DEATH TO ALL FAT LAZY GREASY ASS AMERICANS!!!! Fester on that, bitches
Why are YOU so intent on coming back and posting post after post to argue back with them? THEY have actually trolled YOU. You've been trolled for an hour now... you can't even let it go, you have to post three posts in a row. Practically obsessed with the thread.
FUCK ALL YA'LL, AND I PISS ON AN AMERICAN FLAG!!! WOOHOOO!!!!! DEATH TO ALL FAT LAZY GREASY ASS AMERICANS!!!! Fester on that, bitches
Man, that rings a bell. What could that remind me of?
Oh yeah - it reminds me of this:
america sucks. you all are boring and lame. GO IRAQ!!!
p.s. you guys really are the lamest of lame
I don't know why - but we're attracting a poorer grade of nut lately. They're not even entertaining.
Hey, remember those guys that were all, "You are needed to die now"-? they seem positively eloquent in comparison, don't they?
(Oh, I know, I know: I'm using "big" words again! Like 'particularly', and, 'delicatessen.')
support your accusation that MY accusations are unsupported, because I can guarantee that every word I type is articulate and fully supported... And Brianna, you're callin' my vocabulary 3rd grade? Well, just look at your lezbo friend "Sundae Cunt", calling me a troll... That's about as 3rd grade as you can get... By the way, I have read every one of your threads and they totally stray from what you just posted, you fake-ass hypocrit... So before you throw your UNSUPPORTED ACCUSATIONS out there, do some research or ask questions... It's called having an OPEN MIND
Merely screaming that you are right and everyone else is stupid is NOT supporting your accusations. This may work for you when bullying the little kids on the playground after school, but its not going to get you far with anyone else - ESPECIALLY the people who post here.
You jump in at the tail end of a thread which I started tongue in cheek and never bother to read it from the beginning or read any other threads here. You gleefully jump to the conclusion that you have stumbled across a den of fat, middle-aged, Nazi's, because you are longing to prove your hypothesis that all adults are out to get you and know nothing compared to yourself. If you ACTUALLY had read any threads here, you would know that most folks in this forum consider me to be an extremely left of center, bleeding heart, card carrying member of the ACLU. I find your blanket condemnation to be childish and faintly amusing, but your repeated insults are fast becoming boring.
Your arrogance ill becomes you. At 15 (if that's how old you REALLY are), you can barely change your own diaper. Because you are afraid to actually take us on in rational debate, you resort to childish name calling and obscenities and then become incensed when this ploy does not go over well.
I suggest that you stop wasting your time here and go back to playing your computer games and sleeping through your classes in school whenever you happen to show up that day. You are well on your way to becoming an adult who never gets anywhere, is fired from every job he attempts, and spends his days laying on the couch complaining that the world is unfair. Keep it up. However, if you keep it up here, don't expect to be met with any better reception than what you have so far. :eyebrow:
More run up to war
nonsense from the NYT. Not that I believe anything the Times says anymore.
bump - What a great thread! what a beating. Battleaxe Bill - lol
Well, I just had some suspicions closer to confirmed. :eyebrow:
Not about you classic. ;)
Because the majority of Americans believe George is right and you're a whacko. :smack:
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