Bazeball

Griff • Sep 21, 2005 10:08 pm
Wow! How bout these pennant/wild card races? [obnoxious]BTW THEEEEEEEEE YYYAAAAANNKKKEEEEEES WIN![/fan]
smoothmoniker • Sep 22, 2005 10:02 am
oh, is it still a race? I thought they had just decided to give the whole thing to the world's most awesomest angels.

We went to the park last night with a bunch of friends, and my daughter saw them play for the first time. They managed to put a win up for her. What a blast.

Here's my prediction - Angels get both the Cy Young award with Bartolo Colon, and the MVP with Vladamir Guerrero.
Griff • Sep 22, 2005 2:35 pm
I believe it is time to stick a fork in Oakland..... yep sure nuff, they've been on the grill too long, they're done. :flamer:
WabUfvot5 • Sep 24, 2005 4:17 am
I'm a huge Oakland fan (even got playoff tickets in advance) but this game tonight sorta cemented it. it really comes down to the 4 game series with the Angles but they A's just don't have it this year. Having Crosby out for a time and Harden gone so long + all the other injuries was just too much for a rookie laden team like this. Next year will be something though. Blanton has found his way, Harden should be back, Haren has been spot on, Saarloos is decent. Swisher won't be a rookie either.

It'll be interesting to see what teams fail once they get in the playoffs. Some teams have been protected by their strong batting lineup and it won't be so easy in the playoffis with more equally matched teams. Once again the Cardinals look strong but we know what happened last year.
Griff • Sep 24, 2005 8:07 am
You still have to give the schedulers the nod for lining up these season ending series. Oakland still has their shot.

I think the number of games inside the the division hurts the teams with better pitching. Opponents see the same arms again and again, they will hit them, so the best teams may not be the ones in the playoffs. *shrug* I guess maybe they just play too many games but I'll listen to or watch as many as possible.
smoothmoniker • Sep 24, 2005 9:40 am
After watching last night's game agains the Devil Rays, and seeing how many Angels played a part in the victory, I was reminded again of how brilliantly that team is managed. Even without big bats swinging, their kind of small ball can just punish you with hits, moving guys around, stealing bases. How many teams do you see where a .300+ hitter is willing to lay down a left side bunt to move a base runner around?

Not to mention the fact that they are one of the most error-free teams in baseball. I really like our chances this year in the post-season. We got hot at the right time, our pitching is back where it needs to be, and our offense is back to being productive.

To me, that smells like World Series, baby.
Griff • Sep 24, 2005 9:51 am
That is the most irritating thing about the Yanks this year. They are not that good at small ball. They don't move the runner over. Part of the problem is Torres fixation on playing established players. Bubba Crosby plays the best defensive outfield on the team, lays down bunts, steals bases, and rides the bench. They are streaky because they rely on the long ball, well that and so so pitching...
plthijinx • Oct 3, 2005 2:14 pm
smoothmoniker wrote:
....Here's my prediction - Angels get both the Cy Young award with Bartolo Colon.....

that's a safe bet.

for the national league i see Roger Clemens or Chris Carpenter....

(Go 'stros!)
elSicomoro • Oct 3, 2005 2:46 pm
Kids, let me settle things for you right now.

Cardinals.

The Cardinals will beat the Padres like ugly children, then handle the Braves. Then they will banish the Angels like St. Michael banished Lucifer.

Cardinals in 6, baby!
plthijinx • Oct 3, 2005 2:49 pm
your dreaming!
elSicomoro • Oct 3, 2005 3:01 pm
I am dreaming...I am dreaming of standing along Market Street early next month, as the Cardinals parade down the street with that championship trophy.

If you think the Astros are going to the Series...well, could you please share with me whatever it is that you're smoking? ;)
smoothmoniker • Oct 3, 2005 3:02 pm
sycamore wrote:
Kids, let me settle things for you right now.

Cardinals.

The Cardinals will beat the Padres like ugly children,



Goes without saying. Let's hear it for teams that win their division with a losing record - huzahh!



Then they will banish the Angels like St. Michael banished Lucifer.

Cardinals in 6, baby!


You've clearly never seen a team that can manufacture runs like the Angels. In there last series, they scored runs with *no hits*!! walk, steal, steal, bunt

That's angels baseball. And it'll tear up the Yankees, and it'll tear up the Cardinals.
elSicomoro • Oct 3, 2005 3:15 pm
The Cards had the lowest ERA in the majors this season, gave up the fewest earned runs, the 2nd fewest runs overall and were 5th-lowest in giving out walks.

The Angels are a good team. They can get past any of the teams in the AL...but not the Cardinals.
plthijinx • Oct 3, 2005 3:53 pm
I'm taking it a series at a time. We did get the Atlanta "monkey" off our back last year. and the cards will most likely beat out the 'stros but it won't be a sweep this time.

oh, and Syc - *holding in smoke* "ear" *passes 5 foot bong*:fumette:
elSicomoro • Oct 3, 2005 3:57 pm
plthijinx wrote:
I'm taking it a series at a time. We did get the Atlanta "monkey" off our back last year. and the cards will most likely beat out the 'stros but it won't be a sweep this time.


It wasn't a sweep last year--it went 7 games. Remember, dopesmoker? :)
plthijinx • Oct 3, 2005 4:08 pm
oh that's right, i was thinking of the cards in the world series. :lol2:
elSicomoro • Oct 3, 2005 4:13 pm
Yeah...that sucked ass. But the Sox totally earned that championship, and I have nothing but respect for them.
plthijinx • Oct 3, 2005 4:20 pm
yeah, i was just settin' ya up for a slam! :thumb:
Griff • Oct 3, 2005 7:08 pm
smoothmoniker wrote:
...the MVP with Vladamir Guerrero.


Nope. David Ortiz. I hate Boston but Poppy er Popi er whoever always gets the big hit. He carried that team this year.

The Cards ERA was against National League hitters, that won't hold against the AL Champs.
Griff • Oct 4, 2005 6:59 pm
The Yanks are supposed to roll Mussina out tonight, thing is he sucked out loud last time out. Starting out 0-1 to the Angels isn't the best plan. Maybe the figure starting against Colon is a loss anyway so just use up Moose.
plthijinx • Oct 5, 2005 4:29 pm
the lines are giving 7 runs on www.covers.com today to the 'stros. that sux.
Atlanta took five of the six meetings between the teams in the
regular season. Hudson tossed nine scoreless frames opposite
Roger Clemens on April 18 in a game won by the Braves in 12
innings, 1-0.
smoothmoniker • Oct 5, 2005 7:55 pm
Griff wrote:
The Yanks are supposed to roll Mussina out tonight, thing is he sucked out loud last time out. Starting out 0-1 to the Angels isn't the best plan. Maybe the figure starting against Colon is a loss anyway so just use up Moose.


Or, maybe he's a damn good pitcher. He was flinging some hot shit last night!
Griff • Oct 5, 2005 8:09 pm
Apparently, I'm no Joe Torre.
Griff • Oct 9, 2005 12:25 pm
Big game tonight. I have to admit that I prefer the Angels style of play to what the Yankees have morphed into over the last few years. Another fan I was talking to thinks we should expect wholesale lineup changes next year but I'm not so sure. The fence swingers are putting butts in the seats even if they rarely win tight games. I think they'll try to address middle relief and leave the rest alone. I just hope they sign Matsui.
BigV • Oct 9, 2005 4:55 pm
Go Angels! Whereever they're really from. Do the play at the Big A anymore?
BigV • Oct 9, 2005 11:09 pm
f*ck.
elSicomoro • Oct 9, 2005 11:38 pm
All is not lost...game 5 in Anaheim tomorrow night. I believe the stadium is again known as the Big A...it's gone through a few name changes over the past 10 years (currently, it's known as Angel Stadium of Anaheim).
Clodfobble • Oct 10, 2005 3:44 am
Ha! I remember when they changed the name, because I was working on the All-Star Baseball videogame and they changed it yet again after we'd already recorded all the announcer commentary for that year. First it was "Anaheim Stadium," then it was "Edison International"... The only stadium that changed as much was Enron Field/Astros Field/Minute Maid Park. I had to stitch together 4 different people saying "Angel Stadium at Anaheim" from other bits of audio.
plthijinx • Oct 10, 2005 1:53 pm
GO 'STROS! man, yesterday's game. What a game that was! not one but TWO grand slams! a funny thing is that the fan that caught Berkman's grand slam ball also caught the game winning home run ball from Burke! i watched the "first game" at the flight school and listened to the other 9 innings from the plane. ya know, you can actually bounce around in a 172 cockpit quite easily! i was yelling cheering laughing. bring on St. Louis, it'll be a good series!
Griff • Oct 10, 2005 2:14 pm
Great starting pitching performances for NY and LA last night, both guys looked untouchable. They were going pitch for pitch, a couple very cool operators. Leiter is looking more comfortable coming in from the pen now. Hopefully Mussina is ready to go again tonight. If not, I hope Small is ready to stop any early inning bleeding. Go Yanks!
BigV • Oct 10, 2005 11:38 pm
DOUBLE PLAY!!!

K-Rod to A-Rod, one out away!
BigV • Oct 10, 2005 11:46 pm
*cue the heavenly music!*

Angels win ANGELS WIN!!
Griff • Oct 11, 2005 6:35 am
Football season begins. *Dulp* Big Ben is hurt.
warch • Oct 11, 2005 6:06 pm
Luv to see those Yanks stank. Go White Sox.
Griff • Oct 11, 2005 6:28 pm
Why do you insist on rooting for the wrong team? :biggrin: I'm fully on board with the Angels now, until El Duque gets his start.
bargalunan • Oct 11, 2005 6:32 pm
I don't understand anything in baseball. But I've never seen a match.

I've tried to study a match of cricket without sleeping when I travelled in England. The sky was blue (I can testify), the birds were singing.
Some players were lucky to run sometimes. Some others were proud to pitch somewhere. I think the last ones were giving points to their own team if they could bear the sun without falling dehydrate.

Next to this strange game, in another cool space-time, white shirted and trousered elderly people were playing lawn bowling.

Quite a nice afternoon. But I still understand nothing in cricket : I'm not sure this sport has real rules. ;)
Griff • Oct 11, 2005 7:37 pm
I don't know how this can possibly help but...

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plthijinx • Oct 12, 2005 9:51 am
start here bargalunan
vsp • Oct 12, 2005 4:49 pm
Griff wrote:
Why do you insist on rooting for the wrong team?


Actually, there's not really a "wrong choice" right now.

ANGELS
Pros: Beat the Yankees, the Rally Monkey
Cons: Responsible for those goddamn Thundersticks, won one three years ago, PICK A GODDAMN CITY

WHITE SOX
Pros: Longer drought than the Red Sox had, due for a win, associated for years with the awesome Veeck family
Cons: Afterthoughts in their own city next to the legion of Cubs fans

ASTROS
Pros: Beat the Braves, never been to a Series, due for a win
Cons: Harboring recently-pinstriped scum (Pettitte and Clemens), abandoned the Astrodome

CARDINALS
Pros: Flattened by Sox Mania last year, best team in baseball this year
Cons: Once harbored J.D. Drew, Tony LaRussa molests collies
plthijinx • Oct 12, 2005 4:54 pm
vsp wrote:
........Tony LaRussa molests collies


:lol2:

here's a comic from the houston chronicle:
smoothmoniker • Oct 12, 2005 5:09 pm
I like

Angels: PRO - prove that the franchise is for real, and that 2002 wasn't just a Cinderella year.
smoothmoniker • Oct 12, 2005 11:05 pm
HORSHIT!!!!!

9th Inning, 3rd out, Strikeout.

Stolen away by the Ump.
Griff • Oct 13, 2005 6:40 am
It wasn't that idiot West again was it?
plthijinx • Oct 14, 2005 8:11 am
GO 'STROS!!!!!! series tied 1-1. finally won one post season at Busch stadium. which, may be, just maybe their last game in that stadium.
plthijinx • Oct 17, 2005 8:28 am
GO 'STROS!!!!! 3-1 BABY! Tonight is the night!
plthijinx • Oct 18, 2005 8:33 am
CRAPSTACKS! 1 strike, that's all we needed. ONE STRIKE! and WTF was Garner thinking to pitch to Pujols anyway? at least we have one of the best pitchers in the national league starting wednesday.
dar512 • Oct 18, 2005 10:19 am
The Cards pulled that one out of the dumper, but they still have a ways to go.
wolf • Oct 18, 2005 11:26 am
This might be sycamore's pre-christmas miracle.

Silly me, I watched the Rams get their asses beat last night.
vsp • Oct 18, 2005 2:02 pm
plthijinx wrote:
WTF was Garner thinking to pitch to Pujols anyway?


He was thinking "You know, I really don't want to intentionally put the go-ahead run on base and walk the tying run into scoring position."

Pujols is undeniably dangerous, but he's not a machine; he had every chance of dribbling one to shortstop instead of launching it halfway to New Mexico. With a top-notch closer on the mound, Garner trusted his pitcher, and this time he hung the wrong slider to the wrong guy. It's baseball, it happens.
plthijinx • Oct 18, 2005 7:45 pm
greetings from memphis. too bad i don't have enough time to tour around.
anyway, yeah, vsp, i know, just the hindsight 20/20 workin' here. oswalt is starting tomorrow so we'll see what happens there. i hope he brings his game with him........
elSicomoro • Oct 18, 2005 8:49 pm
My thoughts on last night

Sorry, Fred...I know if I were an Astros fan right now, I'd be confident, but still shell-shocked.
plthijinx • Oct 19, 2005 9:56 am
sycamore wrote:
......but still shell-shocked.

here it is wednesday and i still have that look on my face. :eek:
we'll see tonight though. can the 'stros win 2 in a row post season at busch stadium (last week and today or tomorrow)? :unsure: or is the :reaper: upon them?
wolf • Oct 19, 2005 2:21 pm
Sycamore, you need to practice turning over police cars and setting city busses on fire, just in case.
plthijinx • Oct 19, 2005 4:09 pm
oh yeah, that's right....the yanks riot, the southerners just throw a huge party and get drunk! :rolleyes: :biglaugha :guinness:
elSicomoro • Oct 19, 2005 8:06 pm
wolf wrote:
Sycamore, you need to practice turning over police cars and setting city busses on fire, just in case.


Nah...we don't do anything like that here. We just bitch and complain about it a bit, then move on. Very rarely do St. Louis sports fans get really riled up. In fact, about the only thing that we're still pissed off about is the 1985 World Series (the blown call by umpire Don Denkinger in game 6).
plthijinx • Oct 20, 2005 9:01 am
this town was electric last night! down here everyone gets in such a cheery mood when we win something huge that the crime rate here drops.

Goooooooo 'stroooooooooos!
elSicomoro • Oct 21, 2005 12:05 am
The Cardinals are becoming more and more like LaRussa's Oakland A's...can't finish the deal. I don't think that's necessarily a reflection on LaRussa, but it does make one wonder...

The better team clearly won, and I congratulate the Astros on winning the NL pennant. Having said that, I've been a fan of the Sox for years, and would love to see them end their curse...GO SOX!!!
Griff • Oct 21, 2005 6:46 am
I wonder if Steinbrenner has reflected on who the two game one pitchers are for the best teams in baseball.
plthijinx • Oct 21, 2005 1:23 pm
Sycamore wrote:
....I've been a fan of the Sox for years, and would love to see them end their curse...GO SOX!!!


it should be a good series. playball!
Griff • Oct 21, 2005 8:37 pm
plthijinx wrote:
it should be a good series. playball!

Roger that!
Griff • Oct 21, 2005 8:39 pm
meanwhile in other news the Yanks are looking for a more harmonious 2006 season :lol:
Yankees talk to Bowa

October 20, 2005
NEW YORK (AP) -- Former Philadelphia Phillies manager Larry Bowa is talking to the New York Yankees about the possibility of joining the team as a coach.

Bowa was fired by the Phillies on the final weekend of the 2004 season after leading the team to a 337-308 record. Known for a fiery personality, he was 81-127 in 1 1/2 seasons with San Diego from 1987-88.

New York has two coaching openings following the departures of bench coach Joe Girardi and pitching coach Mel Stottlemyre.
elSicomoro • Oct 22, 2005 8:47 am
Griff, I'm sorry to have to be the one to tell you this, but...the Yankees will not be a truly good team again until Steinbrenner is no longer calling the shots. :)
Griff • Oct 22, 2005 9:00 am
When I read about how the Astros took that potentially crushing loss to StL it made me think about how far the Yanks have drifted from the team concept. George will be there a long time but they can get away from the big ego model with a few key non-signings or trades over the next few years. If they want Jeter to function as the captain at this stage in his career he has to be the #1 guy with younger players looking to him.
BigV • Oct 22, 2005 11:22 pm
Yay Sox!

On a different note, I really miss "Take Me Out To The Ball Game" at the seventh inning stretch. Why do I have to "rise and show my patriotism", a quote from tonight's ballpark announcer, for "God Bless America"? Hmm? I rise, remove my cap, and sing for the National Anthem at the start of the game--I like that part, but did you think I became an anarchist in the intervening 7.5 innings? Sheesh.
Griff • Oct 23, 2005 7:07 pm
Yep, we're getting a Cotton Eyed Joe jones here as well. It was stirring after 911. It is bullpucky now.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 24, 2005 12:27 pm
Here's a really good explanation of why it's so difficult to hit a baseball. :mg:
plthijinx • Oct 24, 2005 5:29 pm
that's pretty kewl there bruce. interesting read, thx.

now. GO 'STROS!

i'm still in shock over the grand slam ordeal from last night. now i'm hoping we don't get swept.
oh and MLB stepped in and is telling us whether or not to have the roof open.....from Here

If the weather is nice, the roof at Minute Maid Park will be open for Game 3 of the World Series Tuesday night.

And it won't be the Astros' call.

Major League Baseball officials will decide.

``MLB controls the postseason, certainly the World Series,'' commissioner Bud Selig said. ``We really haven't gotten heavily involved in the debate.


6 to one half dozen the other. let's just play ball.......
plthijinx • Oct 26, 2005 8:13 am
CHOKE!
plthijinx • Oct 27, 2005 12:12 am
congrats CWS. you earned it and i'm sure we put up a good enough fight even though it was a sweep, we made you back the broom up a coupleafewtimes. y'all were clearly the better team. especially tonight. way to go.
oh, and one little rant: fuck you to CWS fan that slapped Biggio's wife. you are a worthless piece of shit.

edit: random story here

oh and here's a biggio quote from above mentioned article:

Biggio wrote:
"It was one guy who acted like a 12-year-old, who slapped her upside the head," said Biggio. "I'm not going to sit here and hold all the Chicago fans accountable for this for one guy who was acting like an idiot."
dar512 • Oct 27, 2005 12:22 am
plthijinx wrote:

oh, and one little rant: fuck you to CWS fan that slapped Biggio's wife. you are a worthless piece of shit.

I hadn't heard about this before, so I just went and looked it up. On behalf of Chicago, I apologize for this sniveling twit. I hope he ends up doing jail time over it.
vsp • Oct 27, 2005 8:51 am
Next parade: scheduled for 2092. Book your hotels now.
plthijinx • Oct 27, 2005 9:37 am
dar512 wrote:
I hadn't heard about this before......


go figure. i'll bet not one chicago station aired that story.

edit: and thanks 512, eventhough CWS fan put a bad flavor in our mouths, down here we know that one bad apple doesn't ruin the bushel. i've been to chicago before and know that they as a whole are good people. rock on bro!
BigV • Oct 27, 2005 3:31 pm
oh and here's a biggio quote from above mentioned article:
Biggio wrote:

"It was one guy who acted like a 12-year-old, who slapped her upside the head," said Biggio. "I'm not going to sit here and hold all the Chicago fans accountable for this for one guy who was acting like an idiot."
== class

sorry to wife, bravo to biggio