Happy Summer Solstice Everybody!!

Trilby • Jun 21, 2005 2:07 pm
I want to wish all the Cellarites a happy, fun Solstice today!! Enjoy!! Go ride a pony to honor Epona (Celtic goddess of the horses) and have a bon fire!!
:muse: :ivy: :elkgrin: :queen: :destiny:
wolf • Jun 21, 2005 2:10 pm
We're not supposed to touch the horses at forks. They cost more than we do.

But we will have the bonfire.
BigV • Jun 21, 2005 3:40 pm
Happy Solstice, indeed!

Guess what time the sky turns from black to blue on this day? 4:05. The answer to how I know is the subject of another post, for when I have more energy to say. :)
Trilby • Jun 21, 2005 4:24 pm
BigV wrote:
Happy Solstice, indeed!

Guess what time the sky turns from black to blue on this day? 4:05. The answer to how I know is the subject of another post, for when I have more energy to say. :)


Oh, come on ! You can't do that! Now you HAVE to tell us!
OnyxCougar • Jun 21, 2005 4:54 pm
Merry Litha, dear ones.

Burn some oak and myrrh for me.
Pie • Jun 21, 2005 5:28 pm
BigV wrote:
Guess what time the sky turns from black to blue on this day? 4:05. The answer to how I know is the subject of another post, for when I have more energy to say. :)

According to my version of Star Pilot, Civil Twilight started at 4:00am. (Astronomical started at 2:29am, but who's willing to get up that early?)
So, where did you get 4:05?
- Pie
cowhead • Jun 21, 2005 11:43 pm
heh... actually sadly enough I was up then... happy solstice to you all. (and a full moon to boot?)
Troubleshooter • Jun 22, 2005 10:24 am
[size=1]Goddamn hippies...[/size]
Trilby • Jun 22, 2005 10:35 am
baby, if you want to see hippies check out the Plastic Forks thread. It's inspiring! It makes me wanna break out my ritual drum!
Elspode • Jun 22, 2005 2:15 pm
Ritual in the park on Sunday at 2:00 PM CDT (2:15 PST - Pagan Standard Time), probable 50 to 60 attending. Burgers and dogs and potluck to follow. Selene and I do not have to conduct the ritual as we are having a covener do it on his way to his First Degree...but I do get to call a corner.

We loves us some Sabbats around these parts. Happy Litha, all!
mrnoodle • Jun 22, 2005 3:23 pm
I am so not parsing that last post, els. ;)
BigV • Jun 22, 2005 3:49 pm
Elspode wrote:
Ritual in the park on Sunday at 2:00 PM CDT (2:15 PST - Pagan Standard Time),
Solstice ceremony, time date etc
Elspode wrote:
probable 50 to 60 attending. Burgers and dogs and potluck to follow.
Plenty people will enjoy the ritual. Picnic fare afterwards.
Elspode wrote:
Selene and I do not have to conduct the ritual
Not performing normal leadership role in ceremony.
Elspode wrote:
as we are having a covener do it on his way to his First Degree...
So as to permit another person to do so as part of advancement requirement.
Elspode wrote:
but I do get to call a corner.
Although Els will participate in a supporting roll.
Elspode wrote:
We loves us some Sabbats around these parts.
It's a fun part of what I believe in.
Elspode wrote:
Happy Litha, all!
yeah, I don't know what this means either.
lookout123 • Jun 22, 2005 4:15 pm
what - an explanation with no links?
BigV • Jun 22, 2005 6:34 pm
hahahahahahhaa, *snif*. heheh...
wolf • Jun 22, 2005 6:37 pm
Pie wrote:
(Astronomical started at 2:29am, but who's willing to get up that early?)


I go to bed that late ... does that count?
wolf • Jun 22, 2005 6:38 pm
Brianna wrote:
baby, if you want to see hippies check out the Plastic Forks thread. It's inspiring! It makes me wanna break out my ritual drum!


Drumming has been a feature of Forks for the last several years. Come on over!
wolf • Jun 22, 2005 6:41 pm
Litha is the pagan name for the Summer Solstice. It sounds cooler, and you don't get caught in that trap of trying to remember solstice vs. equinox.

Sabbat is a high holly-day, kinda like for Jews, only we get to have cheeseburgers on bread whenever we want, and don't have to feel guilty about it, unless we're on Atkins.
Elspode • Jun 22, 2005 11:35 pm
I just found out this evening that, not only is our degree-seeking covener not going to conduct Litha, but he has in fact announced his departure from the coven.

We are very perplexed and unhappy about this. He has been a vital and active part of our coven family, and he is leaving, essentially without explanation. In fact, perplexed and unhappy doesn't really begin to cover it. Devastated is more like it.

I am now forced to say "Happy Fucking Litha". Sigh.
BigV • Jun 22, 2005 11:39 pm
wolf wrote:
--clip--Sabbat is a high holly-day, kinda like--zip--
High holly or high holy or is there a clever play on words here I'm just too ignorant to enjoy?
BigV • Jun 22, 2005 11:42 pm
Elspode wrote:
I just found out this evening that, not only is our degree-seeking covener not going to conduct Litha, but he has in fact announced his departure from the coven.

We are very perplexed and unhappy about this. He has been a vital and active part of our coven family, and he is leaving, essentially without explanation. In fact, perplexed and unhappy doesn't really begin to cover it. Devastated is more like it.

I am now forced to say "Happy Fucking Litha". Sigh.
More seeking, p'raps? What I know about your beliefs and traditions would fit in a thimble and leave room for my foot, so, so, so, crap. Els, I don't know nuthin, I just empathize with you. I change the books and the words and the titles around and I can understand how I'd feel. Sorry friend.
Elspode • Jun 22, 2005 11:48 pm
I hope it is something that honestly simple, but based on what little he has emailed to my wife (our HPS - High Priestess) and said to a few other coveners, it really sounds as though there's something deep and ominous that he feels would be better left unsaid. Needless to say, that's not good.

Nothing ever gets solved, changed or understood without revelation and discussion.
wolf • Jun 23, 2005 12:06 am
Them Christer folks prob'ly got 'im.

Either that or just raging self doubt.

Possibly both.

EDIT TO ADD: Actually it doesn't have to be any one path that called him away, but his understanding of what the commitment of taking the first degree really means ... what the cords bind not just him, but his soul, to.

That can be some scary stuff, even when you are ready for it.

There are, after all, a lot of pagans who don't accept the reality of what we do.
wolf • Jun 23, 2005 12:07 am
BigV wrote:
High holly or high holy or is there a clever play on words here I'm just too ignorant to enjoy?


The play is between holy and holly, actually.

Holly's a sacred plant for us, see ...
BigV • Jun 23, 2005 12:27 am
I anticipated that, so...high holly-day==high holy-day. see, and they said i was untrainable.
Clodfobble • Jun 23, 2005 12:34 pm
Huh. I thought it was "holly day" = "holiday"
Happy Monkey • Jun 23, 2005 12:36 pm
six of one...
Elspode • Jun 23, 2005 4:43 pm
Wolf, you may be right on the internal crisis thing, but it is hard to say. Bill was our most gung-ho covener, and threw himself almost obsessively into everything. Very impressive guy. Excellent at crafting things as well as being a good chef, a juicemaker, organizer...yet not gay. At least, not willing to admit it to himself.

He was formerly in seminary, so yeah, maybe there's a crisis of faith, since he's had one before, but as it ends up he is leaving only the coven, and not his other Pagan activities.