A poem...

If I'm one of your least favorite people, don't even bother reading this, because I really can't deal with any more right now. I'm serious. Say, "hey, nice meter, nice rhyme," or "dude, that sucks ass," or "why is your poetry so fucking depressing?" or whatever...I can deal with that, because I really only write for myself. But I truly can't take anymore shit about whining or whatever, cause I'm feeling more desolate and hopeless than I've ever felt in my life ....

I only write poetry when I'm severely depressed, so don't expect anything warm and fuzzy...My life is about as low as it can get right now, and even though the poetry doesn't make it all better or relieve the pain, it at least gets it out a little, you know?...And maybe it can make someone who's feeling the same way feel a little better knowing that they're not alone....

Sidhe


I WAS WRONG

There's no such thing as "love" or "us,"
"Forever" is a lie--
A happy start, then finding fault, and finally,
"goodbye."

It sucks you dry, it breaks your heart,
It rips your soul to shreds-
then lays the blame upon your feet, until
you wish that you were dead.

And there you sit, an empty husk,
with nothing left to give-
crying seas of tears and blood, and
seeking a reason to live.

"It's over" echoes in your mind,
as you stare at the remnants of your trust
lying shattered in a pile,
thrown to mingle with the dust.

"Goodbye" rings sweetly in his ears,
already you're forgotten-
A piece of garbage swept away,
flawed and old and rotten.

So never trust, and never love
and never give your heart away-
'Tis better if you never love, for
Oh! The price that you will pay!

The photographs twist in your heart,
the memories twist it more-
The Dagger of What Could Have Been
and What Had Gone Before.

The price of You, Yourself, your Trust,
your Love and Faith and Heart-
for words are only that--just words--
and they'll tear your Soul apart.

What is meant is never said,
what's said is never meant-
Hear me now, and listen close--
"I love you, need you" is the hint.

Do not believe the sweetened words,
the tears, the desperate hug-
For all the promises are empty
and the Grave's already dug.

So heed the voice of one who knows,
Of one who gave her Life
because she Loved, because she Hoped,
Whose Heart has felt The Knife.


Angelia Bernard
LadySidhe
24 May 2005

TS, could you kindly let us know that you're alright?

Wait a minute....I pour the unendurable pain of my soul :bawling: out in a poem, and you're asking if HE'S ok? :eyebrow: :confused:


Next time, try an IM, cause that's cold-hearted, Syc. Really.

See my post in Technology, I'm sill here,

Lady Sidhe wrote:

Wait a minute....I pour the unendurable pain of my soul :bawling: out in a poem, and you're asking if HE'S ok? :eyebrow: :confused:


Next time, try an IM, cause that's cold-hearted, Syc. Really.

Hey, Sidhe, I need a small favor from you.

Could you go whine at someone that actually gives a fuck? Appreciate it!

Bite my ass, Sycamore. You don't like my posts, don't read 'em. It's not rocket science....hmmm...well, maybe for you....

LS, you asked for criticism on a poem in which you poured out your soul. You set yourself up for it.

Okay, I am not going to delete that post, but I am going to apologize. I understand that you were reaching out and wanted to connect with your grief somehow. I posted without thinking first, so please just forgive me for doing so.

But I am going to say one thing: If you don't want people to attack you or insult you, you should try not coming off so antagonizingly...like in your other posts.

Actually, I rather like the poem. This kind of self expression seems to flow more naturally and it becomes you much better than your debating style.

I'll leave this thread alone, now.

Great poem. I almost shed a tear, myself.

Thanks, case....I think... :eyebrow: *grin*


I can handle it if someone tells me that my poetry sucks. That's not the problem. But Syc doesn't like me for some ancient reason, and what he posted was just mean for no reason.

I may be aggressive when I debate...I can't help that, and I try not to attack people personally, even when I don't agree with their opinions. If I have made some people feel attacked, I apologize. That wasn't my intent. I don't take attacks on my opinion personally, and I forget that everyone doesn't feel the same way.

However, I would NEVER, and have never, been cruel to anyone who was having a bad time. EVER. Nor would I. That's just rubbing salt in a wound, and it's wrong, any way you look at it.

He could've said, "that poem SUCKS." I would've said, "Thanks for the input.... Next?" That's giving an opinion on the work itself. Instead, he gave an opinion on ME, that was unprovoked and uncalled-for and he doesn't even KNOW me.

Lady Sidhe wrote:

Bite my ass, Sycamore. You don't like my posts, don't read 'em. It's not rocket science....hmmm...well, maybe for you....

If there is one thing you've shown during your time here is that you're a drama queen who can't take the heat, but will take pot shots at her husband. So, how about you pour yourself a heaping bowl of Shut Your Fucking Piehole Bitch and suck it?

You've always seemed a bit unstable, so I was checking on your husband. Oh, I'm sorry...are we supposed to be hating on TS right now? My bad...you fucking idiot.

YOW.

sycamore, you heartless fuck.

LS, i know i rank right up there with your 'haters' in your mind.

i can put that aside if you can. i feel for you. we dont have to choose sides to empathize with you. the specifics of your issues with ts are irrelevant. i'm sorry you;re feeling bad right now.

as for the poem.....if it expresses what you feel, and helps to congeal that vague burning in your stomach in to something you can deal with, then it's great. the thing with poetry is that you have to be in a similar state as the author to apreciate it properly. i will argue with the sentiment, however.

there IS such a thing as love and us, and forever is possible.

a snippit from a song:

"hey, my love, do you believe that we might last a thousand years if not for this flesh and blood?"

i do.

it may just be that you haven't found 'him/her' yet. learn to love yourself again, grasshopper. the rest will follow.

feel better......and have some chocolate.

I'm really sorry you're depressed Sidhe, and that things aren't going well for you right now.

But it's really awkward and uncomfortable (for me at least) when you post such intimate things about your relationship when your husband is also on this board. I know you've done it before, and it appears TS doesn't really have a problem with it. But it makes me queasy. :(

Lady Sidhe wrote:

Say, "hey, nice meter, nice rhyme," or "dude, that sucks ass," or "why is your poetry so fucking depressing?" or whatever...I can deal with that, because I really only write for myself. ~~~SNIP~~~
and even though the poetry doesn't make it all better or relieve the pain, it at least gets it out a little, you know?...And maybe it can make someone who's feeling the same way feel a little better knowing that they're not alone....

Sidhe
Angelia Bernard
LadySidhe
24 May 2005

You write for yourself and posting doesn't help(you) but there might be a kidred spirit that will read it, understand it and be reasured by it?
At least that's what I got from the post. But, I wonder why you posted it in the Cellar rather than somewhere else? You've been away for a while so I assume there is a somewhere else(site) you've been hanging out.
I suppose there aren't many places you could post that without a flame retardant suit except maybe poetry sites with their attendant women and sensitive guys. :haha:

Now the poem itself, well done, basic gut level emotions everyone has felt to some degree at least once.
I can identify with the feelings. Might be the beginnings of a hit song.... blues or country.......it'd sell a lot of beer. ;)

Shoot--I didn't even know you and TS were married! :smack:
It's ok, LS. You know I feel a similar angst. We should get over it together and be better people and live a better life whatever may come along. Currently I am working on a spell to make fleas infest his pubic hair--I'll let you know if it works! Depression is anger turned inward. Don't get depressed, get even!*

*Or take the high road and be noble. Me, I'm incapable of it, but that's just where I am right now.

LJ: No, you're not on my hater's list. You've never been vicious to me. Not agreeing with me is not the same as being vicious. And thanks...

Clodfobble: Y'know, you're right. Noted and implemented.

xoBruce: Yeah, I wonder why I posted it here, too...I don't know..I was just typing, I guess, and sometimes I forget how things can go here.
And I really don't know why people have such a problem with me....I'm not the only one who holds my opinions, but it seems I'm the only one who gets slammed for them. I'm not hateful to people, I don't attack people personally...I'm a nice person, and I'm not unstable, despite the psychic diagnosis of Dr. Sycamore. (Does he really think that I would harm someone that I love, no matter how much I hurt? Jesus...). I guess I'm just used to a different style of debate. No one who knows me personally has a problem with it. I'm sorry if I come off like a bitch. I'm really not.


Brianna: Thanks. You're probably the only other person who can identify. Sometimes you just need someone to talk to, y'know? I keep forgetting that this aint the place :headshake :) ....do you ever just feel so frustrated that you wish you had a bed-sized pillow to beat and cry on, just to get it out? Yup, I'm there. I think half my problems come from taking the high road, but right now I just don't have the energy to do much else. Being vengeful isn't in my nature, though sometimes I wish it were...

Thanks again.

Syc,

As a favor to me could you ease up? I know you have a personal animosity towards her, but narrow it down to a critique of the poem if you could.

Please.

Lady Sidhe wrote:

I'm a nice person, and I'm not unstable, despite the psychic diagnosis of Dr. Sycamore. (Does he really think that I would harm someone that I love, no matter how much I hurt? Jesus...).

1. I'm not a doctor. I was very careful with my use of words. Go reread the post where I used the term "unstable."

2. People are strange creatures, and do strange things.

Troubleshooter wrote:

Syc,

As a favor to me could you ease up? I know you have a personal animosity towards her, but narrow it down to a critique of the poem if you could.

Please.

Your wife wrote a poem. Given the tone of the poem, and my thoughts on her stability, I asked if you were okay...very simple thing. Your wife then whined about that b/c she wanted to be the center of attention in the thread, apparently. She could have simply ignored my question to you, but she decided to open her mouth. So, as far as I'm concerned, she got what she deserved. If she chills the fuck out and doesn't talk shit anymore, I probably won't "be tough" or "heartless" or whatever the hell anyone else wants to call it.

Believe it or not, Sidhe, I found the poem to be interesting, and feel some sympathy and compassion for you. But you're in a glass house right now...I think you know the rest...

Since my mind control machine is in the shop at the moment I can't control either of your actions. I have to content myself with asking for some moderation from both parties and hoping for the best.

You got ripped off, dude...it never worked on me. :)

I think everybody needs to retire to neutral corners until the bell rings again.

Well, I can say one thing....If I WERE unstable :crazy: , when I snapped :fuse: , Sycamore would be the first to go... :nadkick:

But since I'm not, and since I'm a basically nice person, so I'll just ignore him instead. I don't see the point in a curse-fest, anyway.

Lady Sidhe wrote:

Well, I can say one thing....If I WERE unstable :crazy: , when I snapped :fuse: , Sycamore would be the first to go... :nadkick:

Stand in line...it's a long one.

wolf wrote:

I think everybody needs to retire to neutral corners until the bell rings again.

I think you need to get that Manifesto for Monday ready.

Have I let you down, you stupid, jive-ass motherfucker? I got all kinds of shit.

sycamore wrote:

I think you need to get that Manifesto for Monday ready.

Why aren't you doing your own manifesto instead of stirring up shit here? :p

Some may call it "stirring shit." I like to think it of as "concern" and "tough love."

Wolf graciously volunteered to write Monday's Manifesto.

xoxoxoBruce wrote:

Why aren't you doing your own manifesto instead of stirring up shit here? :p

It could be manifesto research. We must wait and see. :biggrin:

I don't write Manifestos about the Cellar that often, b/c I don't find the Cellar that interesting these days.

Well stay away then

Hey Buster, how about you go fuck yourself?

So why are you here? Just to be an ignorant troll and piss people off?

Honestly? Sheer boredom...though I do enjoy some of the people and the conversations. I take on village idiots and defend myself, and that makes me an ignorant troll? Goddamn...I knew you were a fucking retard, but I didn't realize how bad it had become.

What are you gonna do, you big pusswipe? You gonna be a tough guy and kick me off just like you did with Dave and Mari? I dare ya to!

Actually, I didn't kick Mari off. But claiming that I did took care of two birds with one stone, so to speak, so I let it be. Actual banned people have the user title "banned".

If you like, I can stir shit up on YOUR forum, and then we'll see the Sycamore policy on user baninnation.

You think I've stirred shit up here? Oh, Tony...all that dope smoking has finally gotten to you, it seems.

As far as making trouble on my forum...make my day.

Ah never mind, I wouldn't want to inconvenience your reader.

Figures.

Ok, enough is enough. Screw holding my tongue. Sycamore, you are an ass. You're jumping on UT for calling it like he saw it? What IS your problem? Dude, you need to save up and get laid. THEN try growing up.

You don't have to like me, and as a matter of fact, I'm glad you DON'T. It would make me question the kinds of people I'm drawing--but attacking UT the WAY you did was just way out of line. Of all the people here, he's the one person I've NEVER seen be a jerk to anyone, and who seems to be a genuinely nice guy.


You're pathetic.


*note to Cellarites*

I know I said I was going to make an effort to be nice, but he was WRONG. Cussing people out is not discussion, and therefore does not fall under my "making an effort to be diplomatic" promise.


Sidhe

Interesting...so...

Sycamore calls it like he sees it = ass

UT calls it like he sees it = hero

Gotcha.

Sidhe, I'm sorry that you feel the way you do about me. Here...I have something for you...maybe you can use this as an avatar on another board:



I've seen UT act a fool on several occasions, notably towards Mr. Levy and Mari...either you ignored it, or didn't see it. I used to think that UT was a really cool guy...in fact, we were friends IRL for a time. Unfortunately, he's become a severe assclown over the past couple of years. Maybe he's always been like that, and divorcing his wife let him be himself again...*shrugs*...I dunno.

UT is more than welcome to ban me...but he probably won't because he knows I'd like him to. He's also welcome to come over to my board and "start shit"...but he probably won't because of his raging case of pussyitis. Of course, I encourage him to repent his assholeness in the Church of the Whale Penis.

Like I said, Sidhe...that line's a long one...better get in before it gets too long.

I suspect that LJ might see this later and attempt to jump in. So, LJ, if you do see this, and are considering entering this, let me remind you of your last 2 scraps with me:

--You were issued verbal beatdowns.
--You shot yourself in the mouth by attacking my physical appearance.

So, I don't think it's really in your best interest to join this...really.

No--expressing your opposing opinion by cursing people out and generally attacking them makes you an ass.

You call me an attention whore? I'm not the one doing all of the above. Besides--that's what the "ignore" list is for.

And as for the picture...I'm so much cuter than that, so I think I'll pass.

Thanks anyway, though.

Lady Sidhe wrote:

No--expressing your opposing opinion by cursing people out and generally attacking them makes you an ass.

Sidhe, you set yourself up in the first place, as did Buster and UT...hell, you're still setting yourself up. Goddamn, I thought you were smarter than that.

You call me an attention whore? I'm not the one doing all of the above. Besides--that's what the "ignore" list is for.

I didn't ask to be bothered...shit, I merely asked if your husband was okay, and you got all retarded about it. Sure...I could have blown off the rest of your crap as well as the other knuckleheads, but what the hell...I decided to stand my ground. Nothing wrong with that, as I see it.

Please...PLEASE...put me on your ignore list...oh please do it! You won't be the first, you won't be the last. It'd be a great honor!

*sigh* You're becoming too tedious to even bother answering anymore...

:apaw:
(no hand, so I had to use the next-best thing--as in "talk to the...")

Awww...I'm touched! :blush:

Syc, drink your cheapass liquor and do some relaxin'.

I've been relaxed since 6:15 last Monday morning, hon. :)

Got an early start, didja?

No, that's when I was last in my apartment in Philly.

Quote: Awww...I'm touched!


I suppose that's one way of putting it....

You're so cute...why don't you go shove that olive branch up your ass and go play in some traffic?

Lady Sidhe - I would like to comment on your poem, i really like the forst few verses.. they were well constructed and very emotional.. however in the last few - it seemed to get very, clouded? less constructed.. its like two different peoms the top one, and the bottom one. Toward the end i lost interest in the poem - whereas at the start - i was very drawn into your emotion.

Good vibes and well wishes go out to both you and TS - i hope that you will one day be able to look back at your time together and smile because of all the good times - yet at the same time look forward to your long and individually progressing lives. Your both smart, funny, caring and open minded people - when one door closes, and the fire inside the house is singing your back hairs.. Jump out the window ;) There is a beautiful garden outside!!

After observing the "goings on" in this thread i find it strange that others like SV, Bri, and Catwoman can start similar threads on their relationships and get completely different responses than you have - Perhaps i just dont spend enough time in here to understand why that may be. But i thought it was quite perculiar..

was there a poem here somewhere, or has it been lost in all the hoot peewings?

that little flamefest was kind of refreshing actually. i think i'll take jaguar off my ignore list today. i can never stay good and pissed off for more than a weekend.

You had jag on your ignore list? Did his communist rantings finally get to you? :)

he was deliberately crawling up my ass and setting off roman candles. Like a schmuck, I heartily ate the troll bait and imploded. I see now that by ignoring him, I'm depriving myself of fuel for my righteous indignation, and he has one less person to feel superior to. I'm still not going to take being insulted, but have decided to sink to his level instead of ignoring him like a boring "adult". Far more engaging that way.

He still thinks I'm a clueless fucktard and I still think he traded his soul for a soiled paperback copy of Das Kapital he found in a dumpster behind a coffeehouse.

Sun_Sparkz: Thanks for the critique. I'll have to read over it again. And as to the last paragraph of your comments, I noticed the same thing. I don't know the whys, and I don't suppose there's really a point in trying to find out. *shrug*

Sycamore: Is that the best you can do? Take your ball and go home. The olive branch wasn't extended to you. You're hopeless as far as friendship material is concerned. I see no reason to be pleasant to you, because you're simply an unpleasant person. I'm looking for someone with a more open mind and a more extended vocabulary.


MrNoodle: Yup, it's the first post...:lol:


Sidhe

Lady Sidhe wrote:

Sycamore: Is that the best you can do? Take your ball and go home. The olive branch wasn't extended to you. You're hopeless as far as friendship material is concerned. I see no reason to be pleasant to you, because you're simply an unpleasant person. I'm looking for someone with a more open mind and a more extended vocabulary.

Oh, I'm so hurt! Boo hoo hoo! Sidhe doesn't want to be friends with me! Oh, what will I ever do?! Oh, this is so horrible! Oh my God! Waaaaaaaaah!

Posted by Sidhe 5/28/05: If anyone feels I've attacked them personally, I apologize. I won't apologize for being opinionated, because everyone here is, or we wouldn't be here.

It wasn't intended as an insult, sycamore, although I know that's the track your mind is on. It was just a statement of fact. *shrug*

Lady Sidhe wrote:

*sigh* You're becoming too tedious to even bother answering anymore...

And yet, you keep talking to me.

Statement of fact? *laughs* Are you serious?

Sycamore: fuck, quack, bitch, quack, fucker, quack, fuck you, quack....


Sidhe: :rolleyes: :apaw: :zzz: :lol2:

Ooooookay...

mrnoodle wrote:

he traded his soul for a soiled paperback copy of Das Kapital he found in a dumpster behind a coffeehouse.

Shame that's too long for a user title. Maybe he could use it as a sig?

Lady Sidhe wrote:

Sycamore: fuck, quack, bitch, quack, fucker, quack, fuck you, quack....

Somebody been rereading 1984?

wolf wrote:

Somebody been rereading 1984?

Not lately....it was just the first thing that came to mind after reading all his posts...

You must have Tourette's, then...or you're just plain stupid. Neither would surprise me.

sycamore wrote:

I suspect that LJ might see this later and attempt to jump in. So, LJ, if you do see this, and are considering entering this, let me remind you of your last 2 scraps with me:

--You were issued verbal beatdowns.
--You shot yourself in the mouth by attacking my physical appearance.

So, I don't think it's really in your best interest to join this...really.

in so saying, you hope to lure me into the fray? reverse psychology? ok, i'll bite. but only because you're an unmitigated cunt, and your attempts to draw attention to yourself and your loser saga that is the 'ciberbust' are so transparent that it's funny. people SHOULD go read it. it will make them feel better about themselves. and they can get valuable reviews about what kind of bologna tastes the best and other gems you post in there. tit.

so here goes:

wow.
this is how you remember that? perhaps you should re-read those threads. i'm pretty sure you came out looking like a tool. i'm smarter than you, funnier than you, better looking, taller, stronger, sexier, wiser, happier than you (obviously) and i'm apparently more sane, too. you want to be me. i would jump in front of a train if, one day I woke up as you.

i was issued a verbal beatdown? you're a very sad person. is all of this new bitterness coming from the humiliation of having to move back to your mommy's place? you're what? 28, 29 years old, and still don't have your shit together?
gave up your job as a secretary, didja? where ya gonna work now? Subway? maybe you could get on assistance again, you sad fucking slacker. maybe a temp service? you lisping shifty fat little fuck. you attempt to come off like a tough guy, but i've met you. you're not fooling me.

for those of you that haven't met dycamore, his bark is far far worse than his bite.

candy ass
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It's good to see that you're still as stupid as usual. And predictable. And useless.

Strike three!

Would everybody please just put it back in yer pants?

Truce.

no shit.. speaking as low cow on the pecking order of things, and have long been reading about how nasty things can get around here.. wow.. I thought the local boards were bad. anyway! the poem!

I'm not a big fan of that rhyme scheme.. (then again mine is to try to rhyme every third line.. I don't know why, but it's that way) but you managed to work it out in an almost dylanesque style in parts, which I really like.

kinda dark, and hopeless.. then again it is meant to be an expression of emotional turmoil. so my main question is.. did you feel better once you wrote it? (and other than this bru-ha-ha that erupted around it) did it ease some of the pain or only make that moment freeze in time? (to be re-lived over and over? )

wolf wrote:

Would everybody please just put it back in yer pants?

Truce.

Wolf, dear, I think you know that the chances of Jim and I agreeing to a truce are about as likely as you selling all your guns and going to work for moveon.org.

Let that stupid nigger keep talking...I could use some more laughs. :)

Invocation of "nigger" usually signals end-of-thread, but in this case provided suitable counterpoint to limp-wristed "working at Subway" line. I'm having a hard time calling this one. Have to see whether or not Syc is biding his time and waiting for a clear shot, or if LJ's impressive fusillade has sunk the USS Whale Penis.

WHO WILL WIN?????????????????

cowhead wrote:

no shit.. speaking as low cow on the pecking order of things, and have long been reading about how nasty things can get around here.. wow.. I thought the local boards were bad. anyway! the poem!

I'm not a big fan of that rhyme scheme.. (then again mine is to try to rhyme every third line.. I don't know why, but it's that way) but you managed to work it out in an almost dylanesque style in parts, which I really like.

kinda dark, and hopeless.. then again it is meant to be an expression of emotional turmoil. so my main question is.. did you feel better once you wrote it? (and other than this bru-ha-ha that erupted around it) did it ease some of the pain or only make that moment freeze in time? (to be re-lived over and over? )

Interesting--I don't think I've ever been described as writing in a "dylan-esque" fashion. I'll take it as a compliment.

Did I feel better? I don't really know. Kind of...It got it out of my system for a while, made it stop running round and round in my head, and didn't take as long as writing in a diary, with all the little details, would have. I'm more of a feeling-type person, which, I guess is why I can write poetry and not stories.

I don't really re-live it over and over, no. It was just that, at the time, I had to get it out somehow, and writing poetry is how I do that. I only write when I'm depressed....maybe it's that early Poe influence *grin*

I've tried several types of writing. It all depends on what rhymes well, and how, I guess. I went through a prose-poetry spell once...some of my favorites are from that time. But like Frost said, "poetry without rhyme is like tennis without a net." I think it was Frost, anyway. The whole idea of it being harder to create a good, flowing rhyme than to just write, appealed to me at that point. So I laid aside my "gotta be different" tendency and started rhyming more.

Thanks for the critique! :biggrin:


Sidhe

Noodle, as far I'm concerned, it ended the minute he attacked my physical appearance. He's done it twice before...like I said, he's predictable.

Jim doesn't get to me...hell, none of you folks really get to me. I only went after Sidhe because I find her to be annoying and because she opened her mouth when she probably shouldn't have. Same with UT, except change the pronouns. My history here will clearly show that I only go after people when I am attacked or when it is truly warranted (of course, people's opinions will vary on that one). But it's not like you folks really make me angry...the idiots make me laugh more than anything, but they can be annoying and take away from the place. There aren't many of them, though, so it's all good. And there are some people whose thoughts and opinions I truly admire and respect. Hence why I'm still here after 4 years.

Jim mentioned "bitterness" and TS mentioned "animosity" earlier in this thread...seriously, you guys think that I'm better and animous? Seriously? Believe me...not even close. In the past, shit here definitely bothered me...not anymore. Wolf can probably back me up on this...we chatted about this thread the other night on the phone. I have far more important things to worry about than a handful of people on a bulletin board that are afflicted with "net courage."

mrnoodle wrote:

Invocation of "nigger" usually signals end-of-thread, but in this case provided suitable counterpoint to limp-wristed "working at Subway" line. I'm having a hard time calling this one. Have to see whether or not Syc is biding his time and waiting for a clear shot, or if LJ's impressive fusillade has sunk the USS Whale Penis.

WHO WILL WIN?????????????????

Invocation of "nigger" usually signals that the person using the word is at the end of his intellectual tether. I'm surprised it took him this long. He must be reading the dictionary...

And my money's on LJ, mainly because he knows sycamore, but also because I've been to his site, and also because sycamore has done nothing except curse people out, insult people, and has yet to give a decent reason as to why he's being such an ass in the first place. Absolutely no reason for his behavior at all. I made a joke in the very beginning, in an attempt to show that I wasn't trying to take it all too too seriously, and apparantly he took it as an invitation to make insulting comments about someone he doesn't even know. Anyone who disagreed with him became fair game for his insults, and BAM! Here we are.

Gotta love the Cellar, where people are so comfortable with each other. Maybe we should start selling tickets and taking bets....
:D

This could end up being the biggest thing on the net. And I thought this place couldn't get any better....silly me!

Place yer bets! Place yer bets!

;)


Sidhe

Lady Sidhe wrote:

Invocation of "nigger" usually signals that the person using the word is at the end of his intellectual tether. I'm surprised it took him this long. He must be reading the dictionary...

Still running your mouth, eh? I only use the term "nigger" on people that, in my opinion, deserved to be referred to as such. To my knowledge, I have only used it on Radar and Lumberjim in a serious manner here.

See, I wouldn't call you a nigger..."stupid cunt" works better for you.

And my money's on LJ, mainly because he knows sycamore, but also because I've been to his site, and also because sycamore has done nothing except curse people out, insult people, and has yet to give a decent reason as to why he's being such an ass in the first place.

Based on Jim's last post in this thread, it's clear to me that he doesn't know me.

You've been given a reason...twice now. You probably just didn't like it.

I made a joke in the very beginning, in an attempt to show that I wasn't trying to take it all too too seriously, and apparantly he took it as an invitation to make insulting comments about someone he doesn't even know. Anyone who disagreed with him became fair game for his insults, and BAM! Here we are.

Based on the tone in your original post (which you have edited since originally posting it), you sounded quite serious. Plus, I do find you to be annoying in general. *shrugs* Now, maybe I should have asked about your second post in the thread. And if you were indeed joking, then I sincerely apologize. Really. See...I'm not such an asshole. But I suspect that you actually were miffed that I asked about TS, and didn't say anything about your poem.

I don't think any of us really know each other that well in the end. But based on your history here and your website, I think I know you well enough to know that you ARE a drama queen, and that you DO have a hard time taking back what is dished out at you. And you HAVE disrespected your husband on this board.

I only gave back what was dished out to me. You opened your mouth first...so did Jim, so did UT, so did Buster. Sure, I could have just let it roll off me, but I thought it better to go after the people. And maybe that's my bad...Lord knows that I'm not perfect. But as I said in a previous post, I only go after people when warranted or when attacked first. 4 years and almost 9000 posts won't lie.

Lady Sidhe wrote:

Wait a minute....I pour the unendurable pain of my soul :bawling: out in a poem, and you're asking if HE'S ok? :eyebrow: :confused:


Next time, try an IM, cause that's cold-hearted, Syc. Really.

JOKE.
Not changed in the least.

If I'd been serious, I'd've said something more along the lines of,

"Excuse me?!? Did you HAVE to be such a jerk, Sycamore? I'M the one who's miserable here..."

But I didn't. I stuck a lot of smileys in there and didn't use your full name.
Maybe we did have a misunderstanding, and I'm willing to concede on that.

All of this could have been avoided if you hadn't retaliated by making comments on my personality, such as "unstable," when you don't know me, and cursing me out; a simple "just checkin' on TS, cause you know how women can be.. ;) " or something along those lines, would've been a more appropriate reply. I don't take kindly to being called any of the names you have thus far called me.

TS and my relationship may be presently precarious, and I may be emotional about it, but even he has more respect for me and doesn't talk to me like that. And he knows me better than anyone else. I'll be damned if I'll let a stranger do so.

Lady Sidhe wrote:

I stuck a lot of smileys in there and didn't use your full name.

Those smileys had no smiles.

And as far as the name...plenty of people make "negative" comments to me using "Syc."

All of this could have been avoided if you hadn't retaliated by making comments on my personality, such as "unstable," when you don't know me, and cursing me out; a simple "just checkin' on TS, cause you know how women can be.. ;) " or something along those lines, would've been a more appropriate reply. I don't take kindly to being called any of the names you have thus far called me.

Sorry, Sidhe, but you DO seem a bit unstable to me...note that I specifically said "seem." Perhaps you consider it venting or whatever, but to call your husband out like you did on this board, not to mention the serious tone of your poem and my education and experience...it's not hard to draw the line, IMO. Of course, I'm no expert and I'm not around you all the time, hence the use of "seem."

Why do you care what I called you? Seriously. I think that you got what you deserved, though. *shrugs* You kept coming back for more, even though you said you would stop...twice.

TS and my relationship may be presently precarious, and I may be emotional about it, but even he has more respect for me and doesn't talk to me like that. And he knows me better than anyone else. I'll be damned if I'll let a stranger do so.

Of course your husband isn't going to say what I did...not unless he has a death wish.

Respect is a two-way street. I feel that I've shown you respect in the past, which you have then shit on. Therefore, I do not feel obliged to show you any respect. Now, if you don't give me any more crap for a while, and if I ask about anything that's unclear in the future...we'll see...

You've never been pleasant to me, in my memory. It seems that you felt the need to take TS's "side," when taking sides was not what I was asking people to do, and to do it in a very insulting way.

But, regardless, this is getting really tedious, and I'm sure it's getting boring for everyone else....

I'll simply chalk it up on both sides to a basic aversion and possible misunderstandings, and move on.

Lady Sidhe wrote:

You've never been pleasant to me, in my memory.

Example #1

Example #2

And who supported you when you wanted your own forum?

I didn't feel a need to take his side. I knew of something going on between you two, and seeing how you come across, I was a bit concerned about him. I don't know what is really going on with you guys, and it's really none of my business. For all I know, he's a raging asshole who has a saint of a wife.

And as far as being insulting...like I said before, I think you had it coming.

I'll simply chalk it up on both sides to a basic aversion and possible misunderstandings, and move on.

Please do.

#1 I don't get, and #2 is probably the pleasantest we've been to each other.

Nope, I've never claimed to be a saint. Never, never. Matter of fact, I've said I can be hard to live with. I can just be reeeeeeally emotional, and TS is....er, NOT. That's not to say he's a "raging asshole" (sounds like a serious case of hemorroids...ewwww)...just that I'm far more emotional than he is, and that sometimes tends to lead to misunderstandings and/or conflict---this thread a case in point.

I express my emotions, but only after they've been bottled up for so long that I can't keep them in anymore, and that's the part that can sometimes make me hard to live with.


And as to misunderstanding--I can see the smiley confusion. My bad.

I'm not going to jump on someone and use a shortening of a nic, though. Just as one's mother will use one's full name when she's pissed off, so will I.

However, nobody's perfect, hence the poem. And just for future reference, no matter how hurt or angry I was, I would never cause injury to someone I loved. I'd be more likely to harm myself. Hope that lays your fears--present and/or future-- for TS to rest...


Sidhe

mrnoodle wrote:

~ suitable counterpoint to limp-wristed "working at Subway" line. ~
WHO WILL WIN?????????????????

DAMN. i thought that would slip by. couldn't really come up with anything appropriately demeaning. not that working at subway is particularly demeaning .....unless you have a psychology degree or something.....but...limp wristed? i thought the barrage of insults at the end of that paragraph more than made up for it.

oh well. anyway, there is no winning with sycamore. you could embarrass him publicly and he'll just re write it in his own memory. so whatever. look at it right now....he's taking my apology for attacking his personal appearance as victory in the argument we had when he and dagney blindsided me. that's fine. it's all in good fun. i probably wouldnt kick his ass in real life. i was actually able to be civil to him at forks [size=1]tm[/size] after that first real spat. partially out of respect for the host, and partially from apathy.

i don't really get the 'nigger' corellation, though. there are plenty of other things i'd call me if i were him.

I think this is the best place to go to have a really good online flamefest.... If the Cellar were a country, it'd be the national sport. You have to admit, though, it keeps one's retort mechanism in good, sharp, working order...

We really should start taking bets...maybe we could have a weekly celebrity Cellarite deathmatch.... :lol:


Sidhe

lumberjim wrote:

i probably wouldnt kick his ass in real life. i was actually able to be civil to him at forks [size=1]tm[/size] after that first real spat.

Don't strain your arm patting yourself on the back there.

And of course you won't even try to kick my ass in my real life. Not unless you're willing to piss the rest of your life away. I don't think you're THAT stupid.

On second thought...

Lady Sidhe wrote:

#1 I don't get

Go read the thread, then.

Hope that lays your fears--present and/or future-- for TS to rest...

Yes it does. Now how about moving along, eh?

When I called for a truce, I meant everbody.

(shit, how did I get to be the UN? I fucking hate the UN ... can I be the League of Nations instead, maybe?)

If Wolf has to pull this thread over there are going to be some veerrry sorry cellarites back there....

Without her gun, it's a fair fight here. :)

Sometimes I experience a brief ethical twinge when entering into a battle of wits with an unarmed person, but I get over it very, very quickly.

Just remember...I've got dirt on you.

sycamore wrote:

Without her gun, it's a fair fight here. :)

My money's on Wolf in any number of scenarios.

sycamore wrote:

Just remember...I've got dirt on you.

And dirts only good if you're alive to use it.

She would be a formidable opponent...the dirt is too rich to overcome, though.

Troubleshooter wrote:

My money's on Wolf in any number of scenarios.

Yeah, mine too...

Yeah, Sycamore, but considering the way you've been acting, I don't think anyone would give a shit about the dirt, no matter what it was.

Lady Sidhe wrote:

Yeah, Sycamore, but considering the way you've been acting, I don't think anyone would give a shit about the dirt, no matter what it was.

And how exactly have I been acting? Seriously. The only significant difference between the time you started posting on the board in 2003 and now is that the crap here just rolls off my back now.

I think you're more pissed about the fact that I came after you and got under your skin more than anything. Let it go already.

Troubleshooter wrote:

And dirts only good if you're alive to use it.

Who says I won't be alive?

sycamore wrote:

Who says I won't be alive?

Women fight dirty, that's all.

Well, yeah. And Wolf's a tough case...she's a chick that can run with the dudes.

I love Wolf to death, though. Unless she becomes an evangelical Christian, I don't see us coming to blows.

sycamore wrote:

And how exactly have I been acting? Seriously.

Seriously. You're being mean. I know these are not the best times for you. But in the long run, I don't think trashing on the cellarites is gonna make you feel better.

You have a quick wit, and you know how to talk trash. But just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

How am I being any different than "normal?"

You never used to be like this - lashing out at pretty much everything.

I go after 4 people that attacked me first in this thread, and now I'm lashing out at everything?

Prior to this thread, there are only 2 recent instances I can think of where I took pot shots at someone--both were at Jim, and both were in response to stupid-ass remarks he made. You're either not reading all my posts, judging me solely on this thread or you don't get my sense of humor.

that's right EVERYBODY ELSE is an asshole. never you.

i hardly attacked you. i just said you were a heartless fuck. which you were clearly being at the time. then like 2 days later you basically invited me to flame with you. you know i can;t resist. it's clearly all your fault. putz ;)

lumberjim wrote:

that's right EVERYBODY ELSE is an asshole. never you.

Oh no...I can be quite the asshole.

i hardly attacked you.

But you still did so.

i just said you were a heartless fuck. which you were clearly being at the time.

1. You didn't have to say a word.
2. You call it "heartless;" I call it "tough love."

then like 2 days later you basically invited me to flame with you. you know i can;t resist. it's clearly all your fault. putz ;)

I gave you a chance to avoid putting your foot in your mouth. I know, I know...you have a lack of self-control. But I don't think you're that stupid...I think there's hope for you yet. But, apparently you weren't ready at this point...baby steps...

Now, you've already stated that there's no winning with me. And in your case, that's pretty true...at least it has been since you've been here and currently is. So, rather than trying a "witty comeback," take that energy and put it into something that you might be good at, like:

--Calling your wife and telling her that you love her.
--Giving Spencer an extra hug.
--Really savoring that last J of the night.

Believe me, it's better this way.

frankly, i liked the poem. you said youself, it would be dark. as to the rest of what was said here, MAN I dont care. frankly I think there needs to be a pissin and moanin thread somewhere. seven fuckining pages with what? 4 post that are actually about the gaddamned poem? and my wife thinks I like to argue. seriously though, I liked the poem.

BTW my moneys is on wolf in almost any situation. That is not so much a comment on this as it is a simple endorsement of wolf.

Thanks for the comment, NS. On the poem AND on the thread. :)

Oh,damn, LJ.....I just noticed your tagline...;)

there, there baby now
don't say a word
lie down baby your vision
is blurred your head is so sore
from all of that thinking
I don't want to hurt you now
but I think you're shrinking
I think you're skrinking

Undertoad wrote:

Ah never mind, I wouldn't want to inconvenience your reader.

:lol2: clever

xoxoxoBruce wrote:

:lol2: clever

Man, can't sneak nothin' past you! Looks like that comment was made just two months ago. Talk about having a mind like a steel trap!

Well, since you decided to bring back this flame thread for us to warm our hands over on this chilly August night, let me jump on over to the Sycamore side of "burn, baby, burn," and relate that I was indeed locked off the board for a while. If you don't hear further from me well... :eyebrow:

Fuck you, you retarded, hill billy, busy body. :p
There, now does that make you feel better, Mari?

I was responding to UT's comment, which I just got around to reading, because I thought it was very clever.
I didn't realize there was a time limit on reading or responding. Sometimes the story is better in book form than serialized although with your penchant for soap opera you'd probably prefer the latter.

I was addressing UT about his responce to sycamore and I don't see how that is reason for you to dump on me. But if you're just inching for trouble because I made you look like the ass you are in the french thread, in the words of YOUR President, "Bring it on." :rar:

A bit touchy are we? :stickpoke What president? Where? :mg:

No....just not letting you, or anybody, jump on my shit without provocation. :cool:

xoxoxoBruce wrote:

No....just not letting you, or anybody, jump on my shit without provocation. :cool:

You know what, Bruce? I WAS a little hard on you and I apologize. So, there, take that! Sorry.

Friends don't let friends read bad poetry.

:grouphug:

Fuck 'em, they can read all the bad poetry they want....just not out loud. :lol:

and relate that I was indeed locked off the board for a while. If you don't hear further from me well...

you don't know how to just shut the hell up and get over it, do you?

Who shit in your cornflakes?

lookout123 wrote:

you don't know how to just shut the hell up and get over it, do you?

Hmmm... I DID apologize. Er, get "over it"? :eyebrow:

Carbonated_Brains wrote:

Who shit in your cornflakes?

*raises his hand*

My bad!

I didn't see your posts as particularly bad.

People need a spoonful of lighten the fuck up.