Mis-pronounciation and dating
This is a purely hypothetical question: Would any of you (and, look deep into your hearts, here) date someone who repeatedly mispronounced common words? (Example: library, especially, data.) Just pretend that you like the person well enough, but they do this one thing. What would you do?
It would depend on if they did it so much that I thought I couldn't fix it over time.
Are we talking mildly annoying like a Boston accent ("Bahstan") or an extremely annoying like British mispronounciations ("check the shed-u-ool")? Or maybe even that rare person that still retains a bit of baby-speak in their adulthood (Bahbwa Waltahs)?
Day-ta? Dah-tah? Which one?
I'm afraid I'd have to go nucular.
No seriously, if this were the woman's only flaw, I'd overlook it. But you could be in a "straw that broke the camel's back" situation. "I like this person well enough" is different from "she's everything I ever dreamed of in a woman, except when she goes to check out a book."
Exactly what mispronunciations are we talking about here? I can imagine "liberry", but especially? data? for data you have long A vs. short A, but I can't bring myself to
Are we talking mildly annoying like a Boston accent ("Bahstan") or an extremely annoying like British mispronounciations ("check the shed-u-ool")? Or maybe even that rare person that still retains a bit of baby-speak in their adulthood (Bahbwa Waltahs)?
Day-ta? Dah-tah? Which one?
Like the British mispronounciations that are cultural. I live in Ohio with loads of Appalachians. I've never heard such strange things--"vomick" for vomit, "twice-t" for "twice", "eXpecially" for "especially", and then there are other things that just aren't words, like "swolled" for "swollen".
It would depend on if they did it so much that I thought I couldn't fix it over time.
You can very rarely "fix" something you don't like about another person, especially if they don't particularly think it's a problem.
The hypothetical person you speak of has either had a stroke or is a Brit. Either way, they should be checked by a doctor and prepare themselves for long hours with a speech therapist before I would date them.
Living in the South, however, I guess I shouldn't complain. It ain't a big deal. :)
Attention people from the Pittsburgh area: You put your clothing in the "washer" NOT a "worsher".
Brits say "vomick"-?? Say it ain't so!
not only did i date someone who commonly mispronounced words, i married her. in the beginning i didn't pay much attention, but by the time we divorced i realized that her mispronunciation was tied to her absolute ignorance on just about anything worth discussing.
she was great in the sack though, so that was a tolerable three years.
Both DAY-ta and DAH-ta are correct. I used to be self-conscious about that word, never being able to figure out which was correct because people do say it both ways... but now I say DAY-ta, because that's the way everyone here at work says it that way and it's in the company name. But I had to look it up, and according to Merriam Webster, either way is correct. Unless you say it one way only. Then the other's wrong, I suppose.
I do, however, consider it a personal affront when someone says "ex-pecially" or "axe" (-me a question) or '<i>on</i> accident'. Or if you spell damage with two 'm's. Ungh. The hubby does it on purpose to me just to watch my eyes roll back in my head and the pained expression on my face.
Anyway, I go with the 'it depends on how much you like them' scenario. I overlooked it, much to my advantage. (but he still says expecially by accident every so often)
the only "ex" word that really pisses me off is "expresso". if you are pretentious enough to drink the crap, at least be smart enough to say it correctly. Grrrr
The hypothetical person you speak of has either had a stroke or is a Brit.
The mountain folk were isolated enough in early American history that their speech didn't keep up with the rest of the culture. Many of their quaint pronunciations/sayings are holdovers from English/Early American speech.
*Think cultured English accent for this one*
"We will have to reckon with the consequences."
*Now think Appalacian accent*
"I reckon we could get that done."
Do the benefits of the relationship outweigh your annoyance? Are other skills of his tongue sufficient to allow you to set aside your distress when he's using it for speaking? If something that inconsequential is causing you that much agita, you might want to rethink some aspects of the relationship.
I have 2 curious pronunciation stories. When I was in grad school I worked as a TA for a professor of education that regularly said "pubertry" instead of puberty. It was one of those glance at each other and check, did you just hear that?! kinda things. Anyone else heard that one?
The second is another well educated and articulate collegue who says 'continooooowum" instead of "continue- um". And she uses the word a lot, I mean a lot. Maybe that's not such an odd pronounciation, maybe just a baba wahwah kinda thing, but it made me pause...
As far as the dating goes....no, not just pronounciation, but more for content.
the only "ex" word that really pisses me off is "expresso". if you are pretentious enough to drink the crap, at least be smart enough to say it correctly. Grrrr
Oh, yeah! I forgot about that one!
Pretentious, smreetentious. Espresso is the nectar of the gods.
<small>How else can I become my own vibrator??? </small>
<b>Vzzz!</b>
Both DAY-ta and DAH-ta are correct.
Yes, but do you use it correctly? As in, "Those data are not correct?"
I never did get used to that and it still gets on my nerves.
Ohhh! Yeah. Ok, I understand. I don't think I've ever come across anyone who said that, so I'll count my little blessings where I can. :)
Do the benefits of the relationship outweigh your annoyance? Are other skills of his tongue sufficient to allow you to set aside your distress when he's using it for speaking? If something that inconsequential is causing you that much agita, you might want to rethink some aspects of the relationship.
Good point. My boyfriend mispronounces a few things, such as "idea"--he says "i-dee-er." Coming from most people this sort of stuff annoys the hell out of me, but with him I actually think it's funny and cute. I know part of it is his New York accent (which I also think is adorable) so I almost never correct him. So yeah, I think if you're crazy about someone this sort of stuff won't bother you enough for it to be a problem. :biggrin:
Do the benefits of the relationship outweigh your annoyance? Are other skills of his tongue sufficient to allow you to set aside your distress when he's using it for speaking? If something that inconsequential is causing you that much agita, you might want to rethink some aspects of the relationship.
Well, exactly! But, honestly, this is just a hypothetical kinda question...one I was thinking of as I was doing my morning ablutions. The
reason I was wondering was because I used to work in a steel mill and I've heard all kinds of interesting colloquisms/pronounciations/just-plain-made-up-words that I was wondering if I were a big fat snob for assuming things about them based only on their speech. I would never, ever kick a cunning linguist out of bed. :D
The hypothetical person you speak of has either had a stroke or is a Brit. Either way, they should be checked by a doctor and prepare themselves for long hours with a speech therapist before I would date them.
Living in the South, however, I guess I shouldn't complain. It ain't a big deal. :)
Attention people from the Pittsburgh area: You put your clothing in the "washer" NOT a "worsher".
Heh!!! And here in Philly: It's WAHter ice not WERter ice. ;)
I would never, ever kick a cunning linguist out of bed. :D
You and me both, sister! :p
My parents are both college-educated and were both teachers. Dad was a college prof, mom taught elementary school until the early 70s. Mom is an English minor. Neither of them can pronounce semi-difficult words correctly. Dad's on a diet where he's not supposed to eat anything with partially hydrogenated oil in it. They both call it "hydronated", but every time they do it, they immediately try to battle their way through a correct pronunciation. It's kinda cute.
The funniest in our family was my grandma (and subsequently my mom) thinking that "lozenge" was pronounced "LON-gen-eez." First time I heard her say that, I had no idea what she was talking about.
Pet peeve - a grown man ordering "pasghetti" in a restaurant.
Stream of consciousness....
Something I was watching....talking about Jerry Lewis and vegas and the telethon....noting the year/time/moment that "the lozenge" first made an appearance in his act....
As my friend from Europe visited, he tried to learn the plant and animal life by reading through some guidebooks and then, in seeing a field of yellow flowers, exclaims, "Wow, look at all the dan-dee-lee-uns!"
As my friend from Europe visited, he tried to learn the plant and animal life by reading through some guidebooks and then, in seeing a field of yellow flowers, exclaims, "Wow, look at all the dan-dee-lee-uns!"
Calling dandelions, "dan-dee-lee-uns" is cute. Saying, "I've got fireballs in my eucharist!"* is just strange. And disconcerting.
*Fibroids in my uterus.
Pretentious, smreetentious. Espresso is the nectar of the gods.
sorry, that would be Guinness.
This is a purely hypothetical question: Would any of you (and, look deep into your hearts, here) date someone who repeatedly mispronounced common words? (Example: library, especially, data.) Just pretend that you like the person well enough, but they do this one thing. What would you do?
As I thought about the question, I thought, "Actually, I would think that it could become quite endearing." Like when Sycamore says "A hunnerd" instead on One hundred...I find it to be cute as all hell.
:D :thumbsup: :p
My husband has several things he 'mispronounces', but the only one that drives me bananas is pellow. for the love of god, it's pIllow. My brother says Ench, instead of Inch. I think the eh- instsead if ih replacement in words is a southern/eastern Iowa thing, and although I grew up here too, I don't (think I) do it. Ugh, I am irritated just hearing these in my head... :mad:
you know, purely speculative here, but I think if you've married the guy/gal you've obviously overcome the "problem". I am talking about bargaining. Lookout, where are you?
i am in the valley of the sun. phoenix, arimazona
Homo-ba-phone? Obe-ma-Fob? D'Oh! Sax-A-ma-Phone!
The biggest offenders in my experience are:
"Go down duh screet tuh get some scrimps."
my daughter says Cindabrella. i think it's cute as shit.
I talk just like people on tv. no discernable accent. so there.
My husband says "acrost" instead of across, "melk" instead of milk, and "may-zure" instead of meh-zure. He does try to catch himself, though, to keep my teeth-grinding to a minimum.
Also, my stepdaughter calls it a "cell-o-phone," because clearly the word is supposed to rhyme with "telephone."
I would never, ever kick a cunning linguist out of bed. :D
I third that one sista! (There's a reason I let that UT guy keep hangin 'round!) :p
when my kids were small, instead of saying clams they said clamps (as in, "mom, are we havin' clamps tonight?) I thought that was cute!
My grandmother used to refer to Vienna sausages as "vye-eeena." She also was very fond of "arsh" potatoes, which as near as I could tell were exactly the same as the just plain potatoes we ate at our house. It was years later that I finally figured out that the word was "Irish."
i am in the valley of the sun. phoenix, arimazona
Oh, Pahonex. Gotcha.
(I find that commercial very, very annoying. Not spongmonkey annoying, but annoying all the same.)
My grandmother used to refer to Vienna sausages as "vye-eeena." She also was very fond of "arsh" potatoes, which as near as I could tell were exactly the same as the just plain potatoes we ate at our house. It was years later that I finally figured out that the word was "Irish."
My Grandparents had some strange pronunciations also. Of course my Dad's parents were immigrants which explains much of it. My Mom's parents, growing up in rural New England during the late 1800s, had hit or miss formal schooling.
Also, during that time a kid might have one maybe two teachers for the first 8 grades and their pronunciation became the standard.
Not spongmonkey annoying, but annoying all the same.
The very first time you saw the spongmonkeys,(not the commercial) were you puzzled and a little bewildered? Or did you hate it right from the gitgo?
I think I watched it 3 times before I got annoyed. :)
I hated it right away.
I already thought the viking kittens were stupid, and recognized the style.
huh??? did i unknowingly rip that off from somewhere?
An ad for some delivery service had some guy pronouncing "Phoenix" as "Pahonex". Not a particularly good ad.
The viking kittens doing 'Run to the Hills' is funny. you normally have such good taste, wolf. ;)
i have never seen either of the commercials you're talking about.
Boston accents have always driven me nuts! (Ducks quickly in case anyone here is from Boston)
Indeed, the Viking Kittens DO ROCK! I can't believe wolf is not into this, either. ANY Led Zep song should be worshipped.
Led Zep ROCKS. After about 10 to 15 seconds of interesting cuteness, you realize the kittens all just the same bad flash animation.
I like the viking kitties, but I'm a much bigger fan of the BANANAPHONE! :thumbsup:
I like the viking kitties, but I'm a much bigger fan of the BANANAPHONE! :thumbsup:
Can I get one linky dinky on that? :)
I like the viking kitties, but I'm a much bigger fan of the BANANAPHONE! :thumbsup:
Well, woman. You've done it now. (sigh) It took me four months to stop singing this...(damn you, XOXOXObruce!*)
*ps--despite what all you poseur hussies think--bruce is MINE!
Well, woman. You've done it now. (sigh) It took me four months to stop singing this...(damn you, XOXOXObruce!*)
*ps--despite what all you poseur hussies think--bruce is MINE!
Sorry girl--I couldn't help myself! A couple weeks ago I left it as a message on my b/f's voicemail, and he's been singing it ever since. Heh heh heh... :smashfrea
I think this is the link, although I can't get it to work right now for some reason:
http://www.lemonizer.com/banana/Oh, the link works...(sigh)...GDit!
Boston accents have always driven me nuts! (Ducks quickly in case anyone here is from Boston)
My first and second year french teacher had a strong boston accent and successive french teachers were less than impressed with my pronouciation.
My first and second year french teacher had a strong boston accent and successive french teachers were less than impressed with my pronouciation.
Oh, you'd really like this guy I knew once, then. Dig this. He'd been raised in the deep south, than spent 30 years in Boston. Damned if I could ever understand a word he said! :D
Living near Philadelphia, if you're unwilling to date people who mispronounce words, you will die lonely.
Look--it's not an ACCENT. It's a WILLFUL (or, not) misprounciation of stuff...and not a cute thing that kids do, but an ingrained thing. NOT cute, not a regional thing, but annoying. Ya know? Da ting dat drives ya nurtz.
I like the viking kitties, but I'm a much bigger fan of the BANANAPHONE! :thumbsup:
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I Liked the viking kittens.....never did see it on tv, but i like that flash......it's rousing....'course they got some of the words wrong, ( whisper tales of Thor, not Gore)
but still......they didnt butcher it as badly as Tori Amos did 'Thank You'
rock on, viking kittens, rock on.
Wuh'd I do? :eyebrow:
I think it's the BANANAPHONE thing, TS. It has a tendency to make people a little touchy, especially when it's been going through their head for 587,943 hours straight. I've been there. Sorry Bri, but just remember--
it's all Bruce's fault.... ;)
I think it's the BANANAPHONE thing, TS. It has a tendency to make people a little touchy, especially when it's been going through their head for 587,943 hours straight. I've been there. Sorry Bri, but just remember--it's all Bruce's fault.... ;)
Oh I know, I just like watching the eye twitch and the neck spasm as it repeats over and over and over...
ring ring ring ring ring ring ring bananaphone....
ring ring ring ring ring ring ring bananaphone....
Sometimes it's best to just let it go. ;)
Sometimes it's best to just let it go. ;)
Every now and then, when all of the guys I work with are in the shop, I'll blare the first few lines from my laptop. That's all it takes.
First the glazed eyes, then the anger followed by the robot like turning of their heads towards me...
Every now and then, when all of the guys I work with are in the shop, I'll blare the first few lines from my laptop. That's all it takes.
First the glazed eyes, then the anger followed by the robot like turning of their heads towards me...
I can see why you're so well liked.
Heh. Nice one, Troubleshooter.
I found a bug in a website that you might be familiar with. Loading
badger, badger, badger and leaving it up when I depart work results in all of the cables being firmly ripped out of my PC at work when I return the next morning. I asked the night crew that sits near me if they were familiar with it and they responded only with the same glance you described... very odd.
I can see why you're so well liked.
Actually, I'm only moderately liked, but I've learned to live with it..
See, TS, I knew you'd figure it out! ;)
See, TS, I knew you'd figure it out! ;)
I think that I made my first major step when I figured out most people weren't as smart as I am and I could disregard their opinions.
badger, badger, badger
Well, now I was not familiar with this version. It is quite entertaining--I particularly enjoyed the snake animation, but I feel there is far too much emphasis placed on the large red 'shroom. All in all, I must say I prefer the other version--I have a special fondness baloney/pony segment. I'm not sure about the sound quality of this version, though, because I played it without the sound in fear of my co-workers KILLING ME.
I think that I made my first major step when I figured out most people weren't as smart as I am and I could disregard their
opinions.
I know and it's lonely at the top.
I think Badger came before Bananaphone. :confused:
It did. go to
weebls-stuff.com to see all the nifty badgerbadgerbadger stuff. it's under the "toons" link, which i can't get to right now for some reason.
my favorite is "footy".
as with all badger loops, you must listen all the way through at least 5 times to get the full effect (either a snorting giggle or a headache, depending on your bent)
Magical Trevor is great too.
No, sorry guys, the worst perpetrator of mispronunciation crimes is your Mr Bush and the word "trrrrrr", carried out, according to him, by "trrrrrrists". I've thought about it, it definitely has six "r"s in it.
As far as I'm aware, by the way, no brit has ever said "vomick" for vomit.
The British accent is, I think, probably one of the most pleasing to the ears.
...until any of them utters the word "cuppa" as in, "Won' you dro' in for a nice cuppa?" Its one of the most annoying truncations of speech I've come across. Cuppa? Cup of what? Milk? Coffee?
Heh. I always thought it was "terra" or "turr".
tea. "Cuppa" is always tea.
I once dated a lad who repeatedly pronounced "specifically" as "pacifically*
In all fairness he wasn't the sharpest tool in the kit .....His most attractive feature ( to me) was that he fancied me......Being as I was 15 at the time and pretty much the only girl in my circle without a boyfriend, that was enough for me.....at least it was enough for me for about 8 months.
The worst thing about dating him was that I became horribly embarrassed by his inarticulacy and obvious lack of intelligence.......Then again I think there is something of the fascist in most teenagers.
Teens are just especially conscious of the definitions of and membership in the in-group and the out-group.
Even the out-groupers form their own kind of in-group.
The British accent is, I think, probably one of the most pleasing to the ears.
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Er ... that would be "The British accents
are ..." :3_eyes: . Newcastle, Birmingham (west midlands, not alabama), London, Glasgow all sound vrrry different, ya know. To me (an English person living in Scotland) Birmingham is one of the least attractive, and Newcastle (aka "Geordie") the most incomprehensible.
We we were dating, I thought I was in the clear as he didn't have any glaring mispronounciations in his vocabulary. Then I met his family. His mom grades the cheese and steams the aspargras..but only just varley. :eek:
Nothing wrong with a little graded cheese on your pauster. Yer pauster, you know, yer sperghetti.
The biggest offenders in my experience are:
"Go down duh screet tuh get some scrimps."
OMG you've been talking to my customers!
They eat scrimps on da screet den go watch their digikal (or diginal) cayb-oe.
Ugh.
And when I first met my husband, who spent 12 years in Jersey, EVERY time he would say coah-fee, I would repeat it like that. EVERY time. It was cute then. Now half the time I don't notice it.
Er ... that would be "The British accents are ..." :3_eyes: . Newcastle, Birmingham (west midlands, not alabama), London, Glasgow all sound vrrry different, ya know. To me (an English person living in Scotland) Birmingham is one of the least attractive, and Newcastle (aka "Geordie") the most incomprehensible.
I LOVE the scottish brogue, and find broad yorkie and liverpudian to be the hardest to get.
And I'm from Manchester....
OMG you've been talking to my customers!
A friend of mine was a paramedic for a while. Every so often he'd head into the ethnic hinterlands to go pick somebody who had run out of their peanutbutterball...
See if you cna figure that one out.
Just when you thought you were safe from the badger badger thing...
It's Harry Potter Potter Potter's turn :yelsick:
peanutbutterball...
See if you cna figure that one out.
Phenobarbital.
Guess them folks was having some major convictions, eh?
Phenobarbital.
Guess them folks was having some major convictions, eh?
Yeah, but they're staying scrong and keepin' it real...
The Viking Kittens ROCK!
Is it wrong that I thing that is beyond fabulous? Too cute! :p
This is more of a linguistic pet peeve than a mispronunciation but, for some reason it really irks me when people say stuff like "I love my tomatoes". Why does it have to be your tomatoes? Can't they just say "I love tomatoes"? :(
Loving other men's tomatoes will seldom end well.
TRIVIA ALERT:
Tomatoes were once called Love Apples. :heartpump
yep, i loves me some t'maters.
ok, most of you are from PA, so maybe this will make sense. when i was in the car business, their was a father/son sales team that was from somewhere in PA - definitely not an urban area - i'm thinking more hillbilly here. we'll call them Big Daddy and Jr because... well, that's what we called them. nice folks, but some funny thinks happened due to their sometimes indecipherable way of speaking.
i had a really uptight family sitting at my desk and i just couldn't close the deal. it was the right car, at below invoice, well within the budget, they just had a case of nerves.
anyway, Big Daddy was listening and decided to "give a lil hep." he pops in and talks for about thirty seconds before my clients stand up and turn beat red as they go rushing out. we were absolutely puzzled. i followed them to their car and asked what had happened.
i was still sitting on the ground laughing so hard that i had tears running down my cheeks when Big Daddy came out and asked what went wrong.
when Big Daddy had said "what if i could ask my boss, and we can get this deal done..." - the clients heard "well if you scratch my balls we can get her going" Big Daddy took it in stride, but Jr spent a week over enunciating every thing that he said so clients thought he had learning disabilities in addition to a thick accent.