1/25/2005: Saint Anthony's purification ritual

Undertoad • Jan 25, 2005 12:35 pm
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Not much information is available on this annual festival in the village of Vilanova d'Alcolea near Castellon, Spain. The official caption suggests that Saint Anthony is the patron saint of animals and this is the "purification ceremony" section of the festival on his official Day.

I'm not sure how a horse is purified by jumping through fire; a good round of antibiotics and better stall maintenance would be much more effective. And I'm not sure why the patron saint of animals winds up putting his beasts into a big bonfire. Seems like an effective patron saint would score a better contract, such as the Hindus have done for the cows, or the Buddhists for all critters in general.

A round of severe googling turned up very little detail, other than Anthony's appearance at the same time in Sicily. These festivals sound like a great time, I want one:

Ancient tradition has it that the saint, like Prometheus, stole into hell and brought back fire, so naturally the festivities revolve around a bonfire. Each town places different herbs and fruits atop the blaze, creating a unique aroma. Women emerge from their homes bearing sweets and dark fruity loaves of pane nigheddu, while men pass around bottles of wine and aquavit.

Wow! I, personally, am all in favor of this kind of thing. I can taste the pane nigheddu now! I'm not sure about the community bottles, as I just got over a bout of illness, you know, wouldn't want another round of that.
lookout123 • Jan 25, 2005 12:44 pm
c'mon everybody! "horse nuts roasting on an open fire, dipshits making your equine roast"
Elspode • Jan 25, 2005 1:14 pm
Looks like something akin to driving the animals 'twixt the balefires at Beltane (May Day, to the rest of you non-Pagans).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beltane
magilla • Jan 25, 2005 1:31 pm
Note that they have the horse's mane all bundled up in flowers. Presumably they did the same for the critter's tail, too. I hope that's to keep it from getting torched.

It makes me feel better about this to see the horse has a live human rider, although he could be the type that participates in the Taming of the Bulls that we saw a few days ago :)
Trilby • Jan 25, 2005 1:34 pm
Elspode wrote:
Looks like something akin to driving the animals 'twixt the balefires at Beltane (May Day, to the rest of you non-Pagans).



" 'twixt" being the operative word. :D
Troubleshooter • Jan 25, 2005 2:22 pm
Just another party plagarized from the pagans right?
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 25, 2005 7:40 pm
Each town places different herbs and fruits atop the blaze, creating a unique aroma.
I doubt if it would mask burning hair as that's pretty pungent. :vomit:
wolf • Jan 25, 2005 9:12 pm
Which Anthony?

Saint Anthony of Padua (this is the "popular" one ... the Lost Things guy)

Saint Anthony of the Desert

(Oh man. there are actually 31 Saint Anthonies ... That's too much typing. Here's a list of patron saints, by name. )

Anthony of Padua and Anthony the Abbott both have associations to animals.
capnhowdy • Jan 25, 2005 9:51 pm
It'd be cool on video.
Odds are: this guy busts his ass.
Or either he's a damn good rider.
Eat your heart out, Junior Bonner....... :eek:
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 26, 2005 8:20 am
wolf wrote:
Which Anthony?

Saint Anthony of Padua (this is the "popular" one ... the Lost Things guy)

Saint Anthony of the Desert

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I noticed that both these Anthonys came from rich, powerful families and were chosen by God to do great things.
just like GW Bush. :headshake
Elspode • Jan 26, 2005 1:43 pm
All in favor of riding Bush through flames on horseback, say "aye"!
Senor Oso • Jan 26, 2005 3:24 pm
I'm pretty sure that these people are taking the words "Chestnuts roasting on an open fire" in an entirely different way than it was meant.
Griff • Jan 26, 2005 6:20 pm
Senor Oso wrote:
I'm pretty sure that these people are taking the words "Chestnuts roasting on an open fire" in an entirely different way than it was meant.


:biggrin:


Aye.
capnhowdy • Jan 26, 2005 6:43 pm
The PETA people must be on strike, thank goodness.
If you'll notice, the horse isn't being ridden through the blaze.
It's being led (or should I say forced) through it.
The guy "leading" him doesn't really seem to be having a blast either.
The rider kooks as if to be saying: Faster, you sluggish bastard!
[quote] "People do do the strangest things"[quote]
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 26, 2005 10:28 pm
Elspode wrote:
All in favor of riding Bush through flames on horseback, say "aye"!
How about a horse on Bushback? ;)
Elspode • Jan 26, 2005 11:16 pm
He could wear a 10 gallon Stetson...filled with 10 gallons of liquid oxygen, perhaps.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 27, 2005 4:40 am
Sure, it's already filled with 10 gallons of air. ;)
Troubleshooter • Jan 27, 2005 10:52 am
You're mistaking that heavy duty cylinder on his shoulders as a high pressure cylinder instead of the high vacuum cylinder that it is.
MAdMoNKEY • Jan 27, 2005 3:23 pm
I love how people ripped on the Muslims for killing animals and eating them, but no one seems that bent out of shape about a horse being forcibly led through a bonfire. :eyebrow:
Happy Monkey • Jan 27, 2005 3:26 pm
It's not gross looking. In fact, it looks sort of cool.
jinx • Jan 27, 2005 3:33 pm
I wonder how they choose the horse, or if it's the same one every year?
garnet • Jan 27, 2005 3:48 pm
MAdMoNKEY wrote:
I love how people ripped on the Muslims for killing animals and eating them, but no one seems that bent out of shape about a horse being forcibly led through a bonfire. :eyebrow:


I agree--I think it's awful. The horse looks terrified, and he obviously wouldn't be doing this of his own free will. If this had taken place in the US somebody would be facing charges.
lookout123 • Jan 27, 2005 3:51 pm
that's because we know that muslims are just filty animals, not real people. it wouldn't do to rip on people that are "like us" now would it?

*thick sarcasm*
capnhowdy • Jan 27, 2005 5:44 pm
garnet wrote:
I agree--I think it's awful. The horse looks terrified, and he obviously wouldn't be doing this of his own free will. If this had taken place in the US somebody would be facing charges.


Obviously the Spaniards don't have de la PETA-ello......... :worried:
Griff • Jan 27, 2005 8:51 pm
So you're all saying that's a real/live horse?
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 27, 2005 9:38 pm
MAdMoNKEY wrote:
I love how people ripped on the Muslims for killing animals and eating them, but no one seems that bent out of shape about a horse being forcibly led through a bonfire. :eyebrow:
That's because he/she is not being injured and will have great stories to tell at the stable. Kind of like skydiving or bungee jumping. :biggrin:
MAdMoNKEY • Jan 28, 2005 12:10 am
xoxoxoBruce wrote:
That's because he/she is not being injured and will have great stories to tell at the stable. Kind of like skydiving or bungee jumping. :biggrin:

I dunno...when I put my hand really close to fire it's not very comfortable. I don't believe horses enjoy walking through big-ass flames. :flamer:
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 28, 2005 4:47 am
I believe your right, but I don't think the horse was injured and that's the big difference. :biggrin:
garnet • Jan 28, 2005 9:28 am
xoxoxoBruce wrote:
I believe your right, but I don't think the horse was injured and that's the big difference. :biggrin:

Maybe not, but just terrified as all hell. And wasn't there a good chance that the horse could have been injured?
MAdMoNKEY • Jan 28, 2005 4:08 pm
xoxoxoBruce wrote:
I believe your right, but I don't think the horse was injured and that's the big difference. :biggrin:
I'm glad the horse wasn't injured, but it was put into a situation where it could very well have been seriously injured. Also like garnet said I'm sure the horse was pissing-in-its-pants terrified. Now I'm neither a PETA member nor Muslim, I just think people are quick to cast stones at barbaric acts of other cultures but are blind to their own culture's faults (I know I do this all the time). Not to say it's done intentionally, I think it just speaks about human nature.
Elspode • Jan 28, 2005 8:55 pm
This *is* a purification ritual, after all. Maybe the horse's next stop is the dog food factory, and this is just to make sure it is kosher or something? :angel:
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 28, 2005 11:32 pm
garnet wrote:
And wasn't there a good chance that the horse could have been injured?
Any time it leaves the stall...matter of fact the barn could burn down so it's not safe there either.
As for being traumatized, probably. I would be if a bunch of crazy religious zealots were leading me by the halter through bonfires. But that said, I'd prefer it to having my throat slit.
Keep in mind however the animals that were killed in the other IOtD were not tortured or killed for fun. It was the a religious ritual slaughter of animals for food.
I know you don't agree with killing animals or eating them but they do and their religion dictates how the animals be slaughtered.
That's a far cry from indiscriminately killing any critter available. ;)