My projection for Super Bowl XXXIX

Oaktree67 • Jan 7, 2005 6:48 pm
Patriots 41,Eagles 7.

Anybody care to comment?
Griff • Jan 7, 2005 7:46 pm
Steelers 31, Seahawks 21

Law is out, as if that matters. :flamer:
elSicomoro • Jan 7, 2005 8:39 pm
Griff, put that damned bottle down. You know damned good and well that Seattle is going to get beat tomorrow, so let's cut the crap here. :)
elSicomoro • Jan 7, 2005 8:39 pm
Oh...a prediction for SB39: Eagles by less than a touchdown over Pittsburgh.
lumberjim • Jan 7, 2005 9:03 pm
do the eagles stand a chance in the big game IF they finally make it?
lumberjim • Jan 7, 2005 9:06 pm
Colts over the birds, 31-13.

this week:
seahawks over the rams
chargers over the jets
pack over vikes
colts over the broncos

next week:
eagles over the seahawks
falcons over the packers
pats over the chargers
colts beat the steelers

championships:
colts o'er the Patriots in a squeaker
Eagles trounce the Falcons
Beestie • Jan 7, 2005 10:33 pm
lumberjim wrote:
next week:
...
Eagles trounce the Falcons..


Can I have whatever it is that you are having???

McNabb over Vick? Yikes. That must be some good skunkweed. :3eye:
elSicomoro • Jan 7, 2005 10:35 pm
He's a Cowboys fan...need I say more?
Beestie • Jan 7, 2005 10:44 pm
sycamore wrote:
He's a Cowboys fan...need I say more?
Who? LJ??? A freakin' Dallas Assboys fan???

Dear God. I had no idea.
elSicomoro • Jan 7, 2005 10:53 pm
I'm afraid so...it's tragic...and funny.

Or at least, it is right now.
Beestie • Jan 7, 2005 11:15 pm
sycamore wrote:
I'm afraid so...it's tragic...and funny.
Oh... I forgot about that thread but you can see what I had to say about it then.

I think we need an intervention with LJ.

We can invite Marichiko and Atropos and you (Syc) and Wolf (she needs to bring the hypo if things get outta hand), UT, Griff and fileNotFound for some extra muscle if he tries to get up off the couch before we're good 'n through with his sorry Dallas-lovin' ass. :)
elSicomoro • Jan 7, 2005 11:26 pm
It's funny...there are actually quite a few Dallas fans here, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of animosity towards them. Of course, I've never been to the Vet or the Linc to see things up close and personal...
Beestie • Jan 7, 2005 11:55 pm
sycamore wrote:
It's funny...there are actually quite a few Dallas fans here, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of animosity towards them.
Well its not like they win often enough to really piss anybody off :lol:
wolf • Jan 8, 2005 1:14 am
There is a special peace one gets knowing that you can sit out the playoffs and not really be invested in it.

I suppose, however, that I will end up going along with the fellows at work and cheering the Iggles to some degree. I believe that I have my Eagles car window flag from last year still in the trunk, and may attach it to my vehicle so as to blend in these next few weeks.

Love,

'Wolf (Bears Fan, resigned to no post season for quite a few year. Why oh why do the Bears have "demolishing" years, rather than "rebuilding?)

P.S. Bruce sent me this. It's appropriate here.
wolf • Jan 8, 2005 1:17 am
sycamore wrote:
It's funny...there are actually quite a few Dallas fans here, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of animosity towards them. Of course, I've never been to the Vet or the Linc to see things up close and personal...


It's UGLY.

Giants are treated badly as well, but wasn't it Dallas that caused the change to the snow clearance rules in the Vet?
lumberjim • Jan 9, 2005 12:32 pm
lumberjim wrote:
Colts over the birds, 31-13.

this week:
seahawks over the rams
chargers over the jets
pack over vikes
colts over the broncos

next week:
eagles over the seahawks
falcons over the packers
pats over the chargers
colts beat the steelers

championships:
colts o'er the Patriots in a squeaker
Eagles trounce the Falcons

ok, 0 for 2 so far.....yay me
Oaktree67 • Jan 9, 2005 2:17 pm
I'm also 0 for 2;I picked Seahawks over Rams and Chargers over Jets.
Griff • Jan 13, 2005 9:00 pm
Turns out the Seahawks were kinda sucky. The NFC bubble teams are weak.

Question: Is Manning gonna show something this weekend?
Griff • Jan 15, 2005 9:10 pm
Brien's 47-yarder with 1:58 remaining hit the goal post, but Roethlisberger gave the Jets the ball right back when his off-line throw was intercepted by David Barrett -- just the kind of mistake rookie quarterbacks are supposed to make in the playoffs, but Big Ben had rarely made during his 13-0 rookie season. The Jets then drove cautiously from the Steelers 37 to the 25, giving Brien a 43-yarder to win it on the final play of regulation.

But the kick sailed far to the left, not even close, and the given-a-reprieve Steelers danced joyously on their sidelines -- Roethlisberger right in the middle.


That was unusual.
Oaktree67 • Jan 16, 2005 4:36 pm
You can say that again.
elSicomoro • Jan 16, 2005 4:58 pm
Damned Rams...I'm not really surprised that they lost, just surprised at how badly their asses were whupped.

The Eagles were solid--rust was not an issue. The Colts/Pats game should be interesting...I'll go with Indy by less than a touchdown.
Elspode • Jan 16, 2005 6:59 pm
Even good teams need luck. Pittsburgh proved that yesterday. I think they're the team to beat this year.
Griff • Jan 16, 2005 8:44 pm
I hope you're right. They really need to be sharp against the Pats.
wolf • Jan 18, 2005 8:23 pm
In a restaurant without televisions or radios, the patron with the internet capable cellphone is queen ...

Had lots of visits from the wait staff ... "Would you care for some more complimentary pickles, or perhaps some coffee and desert? And while I'm here, do you happen to have the latest score?"
lumberjim • Jan 18, 2005 8:50 pm
jinx and I went out to a fancy restaurant with some friends saturday night, went back to their place and got good and drunk. we slept till 10:30, had coffee, putzed around, and then went out to breakfast at crackerbarrell around 12:30. My friend Matt had Tivo'd the game, and we were planning on going back to his house after eating and watch the game sans commercials. doesn't the waitress seat us next to a party of 20? and in that party of 20 there is, naturally, Captain Loudtalkerman who brought his 6" tv in to the restaurant and kept announcing the score. cock!
Griff • Jan 22, 2005 9:26 am
Neat story in the Times explaining how the Steelers came together as a team this year. There are lots of things that could have blown them up QB issues RB issues etc... but they're still grinding away. I think Maddox should get a lot of credit. When he was a young'un Elway did everything he could to sink him, Tommy is a better man than that.
Oaktree67 • Jan 23, 2005 9:46 am
I don't know if you guys have looked outside your windows lately, but given current weather conditions, it looks like the participants in today's Conference Championship games may have to take the field in snowshoes. Right about now, the street outside my home disturbingly resembles an outtake from "The Day After Tomorrow" and polar bear and penguin sightings have increased geometrically in the last twelve hours.
wolf • Jan 23, 2005 9:49 am
Because of the habit of Eagles fans to pelt their opposition with snowballs ... there won't be a single speck of cold white stuff in the Linc.
richlevy • Jan 23, 2005 2:32 pm
Here's an interesting question. Since Gov. Rendell is an unabashed Eagles fan, if the Steelers win the Superbowl over the Eagles, will he go to the parade?
wolf • Jan 23, 2005 2:37 pm
I thought that in a soundbite I heard last week he was showing clear favoritism for the Steelers ... I was quite confused.
lumberjim • Jan 23, 2005 2:44 pm
t-20 mins to kick off.

although i'm a staunch cowboys fan, and eagles hater, I have to admit that I'm rooting for them. since tha colts were dusted by the pats, I'd like to see them finally get there and win it.

my prediction for today:

27-13 Iggles.
richlevy • Jan 23, 2005 4:54 pm
"I don't think he's been that good from the get-go," Limbaugh said. "I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team." Rush Limbaugh - October 2003

Watching McNabb scramble and fire off a successful pass even as he was falling forward, I am again reminded of why I think Rush Limbaugh is a huge horses ass.
elSicomoro • Jan 23, 2005 6:08 pm
Eagles 27, Falcons 10

[size=5][color=darkgreen]ON TO JACKSONVILLE!!![/color][/size]
lumberjim • Jan 23, 2005 6:16 pm
lumberjim wrote:


my prediction for today:

27-13 Iggles.

so close....
Radar • Jan 23, 2005 6:19 pm
My SuperBowl prediction on Jan 18 2005, 01:20 PM was...

Patriots 28, Eagles 10

or

Patriots 35, Eagles 17
wolf • Jan 23, 2005 6:21 pm
How about them Iggles? Nicely done.

Good luck to the Birds in the Bowl ... the economy could use the boost.
Elspode • Jan 23, 2005 7:45 pm
richlevy wrote:
Watching McNabb scramble and fire off a successful pass even as he was falling forward, I am again reminded of why I think Rush Limbaugh is a huge horses ass.


I get so tired of people alluding that Rush is somehow a racist. Rush doesn't hate blacks. I'm sure that he thinks everyone should own one. :D

Gigantic suppurating pustule, or perhaps impacted anal wart would be my term for Rush. Gag. Puke.
Bob R • Jan 23, 2005 10:33 pm
So, I just had to come back and ask the question:

Do you really think you have a prayer?

<img src='http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nfl/2005/0123/photo/a_branch_frt.jpg'>
Griff • Jan 24, 2005 6:55 am
Yep. The Pats didn't win the game, the Steelers lost it. It was classic Belichik though. Cower got out-coached.

Now, I have to root for the Eagles, but lets face it the NFC teams just are not that competitive. A non-rookie qb would have done much better against last nights scheme but who knows what they're gonna throw at Philly? New England's pass defense is still very beatable...
lumberjim • Jan 24, 2005 10:46 am
Eagles, 31 -28 in OT.
garnet • Jan 24, 2005 1:54 pm
I haven't followed the NFL this year as closely as I ususally do, but I gotta go with the Patriots 35-17. Although it would be nice to see the Eagles get a win. Too bad there isn't some kind of "cyber wager" we can put on this....hmmmm.
Oaktree67 • Jan 28, 2005 11:08 am
Apropos of wagers,are the mayors of Boston and Philadelphia wagering anything?
404Error • Jan 28, 2005 2:57 pm
garnet wrote:
...Too bad there isn't some kind of "cyber wager" we can put on this....hmmmm.


How 'bout if the Eagles win you have to post your picture, if the Pats win LJ has to post a picture of his ass?
garnet • Jan 28, 2005 3:26 pm
404Error wrote:
How if the Eagles win you have to post your picture, if the Pats win LJ has to post a picture of his ass?


Well, I'd be happy to post my pic, but I don't know if I'd want to take the risk of seeing LJ's ass if I lost... :eek:
Elspode • Jan 30, 2005 8:10 pm
Nice article about local legend George Toma, who is the only guy to have ever been in charge of the turf for Super Bowls.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-superbowl-dirtman&prov=ap&type=lgns

Toma pretty much invented the modern science of groundskeeping, and has been in charge of Kansas City's professional athletic fields since I was a wee lad. One of his early hallmarks was making his groundskeepers actually *train* for the between-inning spruceups of the infield. His kids sprinted out onto the field, changed the bases out for clean ones, did a quick dirt dragging, and sprinted off again, all in about 30 seconds. When the rain began to fall, his guys got the tarps out under the judgement of a stopwatch, and their new records were announced over the PA.

George Toma is *the* man in groundskeeping, and we've been fortunate to have him as our local guy for as long as I can remember.
elSicomoro • Jan 30, 2005 8:12 pm
404Error wrote:
How 'bout if the Eagles win you have to post your picture, if the Pats win LJ has to post a picture of his ass?


Why would you subject us to such a thing as the latter? What the hell is wrong with you? :)
Oaktree67 • Jan 30, 2005 9:03 pm
Show of hands:who here has been keeping track of the controversy stemming from Freddie Mitchell's comments about the Patriots' defense last week on ESPN?
elSicomoro • Jan 30, 2005 9:14 pm
A bit, because it was on the news here in Philadelphia last week...it seemed like Mitchell was joking (I didn't actually hear the comments), though he is a turd.
404Error • Jan 30, 2005 9:24 pm
sycamore wrote:
Why would you subject us to such a thing as the latter? What the hell is wrong with you? :)


I don't know what you're afraid of...according to *some* people here, he does a fine job of showing his ass with most of his posts anyway. :biggrin:

[SIZE=1]Disclaimer: Not necessarily my opinion, just a casual observation.[/SIZE]
elSicomoro • Jan 30, 2005 9:39 pm
404Error wrote:
I don't know what you're afraid of...according to *some* people here, he does a fine job of showing his ass with most of his posts anyway.


Indeed he does.
lumberjim • Jan 30, 2005 10:26 pm
no one wants to see my ass. not even me. in fact the only thing i want to see LESS than my ass is sycamore's boobs.
Telefunken • Jan 31, 2005 12:02 am
I'm a little concerned that the Pats are going to into the game with something to prove and blow it. They're getting more pissed of as the days go by. This kind of stuff isn't healthy and can be a huge distraction.
Oaktree67 • Feb 2, 2005 10:55 am
Telefunken wrote:
I'm a little concerned that the Pats are going to into the game with something to prove and blow it....


Actually,the Pats frequent play some of their best football when they have something to prove.
breakingnews • Feb 4, 2005 5:11 pm
I'm sure this has gone around, but if it hasn't ...

http://www.nbc10.com/eaglesparody/4152450/detail.html

GO EAGLES.
lumberjim • Feb 4, 2005 5:28 pm
that was queer
wolf • Feb 5, 2005 8:44 pm
I have this fear that if the Iggles to manage to lead at any point in the game, that's the cue for the Black Sunday or Sum of All Fears terrorist attack to ensue. Either then or when John Stamos' older brother Richard Stamos sings the high note in "Loving You."
Kitsune • Feb 6, 2005 9:35 pm
Two teams I don't care about. Sooo... time for Animal Planet's Puppy Bowl. This kicks ass. I mean, come on -- its a room that looks like a football stadium, is full of puppies and toys, and all they do is switch cameras.

...and if you were too busy watching the game, you can always pick up the DVD.
lookout123 • Feb 6, 2005 10:39 pm
sorry guys, better luck next year.
garnet • Feb 6, 2005 10:43 pm
Kitsune wrote:
Two teams I don't care about. Sooo... time for Animal Planet's Puppy Bowl. This kicks ass. I mean, come on -- its a room that looks like a football stadium, is full of puppies and toys, and all they do is switch cameras.


I did the same thing! Cute puppies and more cute puppies...it doesn't get any better than this! Although I admit to watching the last quarter of the game for the heck of it.
Elspode • Feb 6, 2005 10:58 pm
My condolences to you Philly area Cellarites. I think the Eagles gave the Pats a hell of a game. Best Stupendous Bowl in years.
richlevy • Feb 6, 2005 11:15 pm
It was a great Super Bowl, a nail-biter down to the end. A lot of slippage on the field though. The Eagles may be the next dynasty.
404Error • Feb 6, 2005 11:22 pm
Eh. Good game and I'm happy New England won but The Simpsons episode after the game was a lot more entertaining. :biggrin:
richlevy • Feb 6, 2005 11:27 pm
404Error wrote:
Eh. Good game and I'm happy New England won but The Simpsons episode after the game was a lot more entertaining. :biggrin:

With 0-0 going into the first quarter and 7-7 going into the half, it was the closest Superbowl I can remember.
superbaton • Feb 7, 2005 12:27 am
mmm, not american so..please explain:
1) Football, do they ever get to touch the ball with their feet?
2) how many passes you can do throwing the ball backwards?
3) same as above but forward
4) is it really necesary to have like 8 referees?, what do they measure with those huge orange targets tied by a chain?

thanks for your help.
404Error • Feb 7, 2005 6:24 am
richlevy wrote:
With 0-0 going into the first quarter and 7-7 going into the half, it was the closest Superbowl I can remember.


If I remember correctly, last years game was just as close going into the first quarter. ;)

[SIZE=1]I know you probably meant going into the second quarter but I just couldn't resist.[/SIZE]
vsp • Feb 7, 2005 7:51 am
superbaton wrote:
mmm, not american so..please explain:
1) Football, do they ever get to touch the ball with their feet?
2) how many passes you can do throwing the ball backwards?
3) same as above but forward
4) is it really necesary to have like 8 referees?, what do they measure with those huge orange targets tied by a chain?

thanks for your help.


In order:

1) Yes, though it's usually restricted to a couple of specialists.

Placekickers boot the ball down the field from a stationary position at the beginning of each half and after each major score. After a touchdown, placekickers can try to kick it through the uprights from 20 yards away for one point. If it's done without a touchdown being scored, it's a field goal, worth three.

Punters catch long snaps and boot the ball downfield, done when the team will not reach the first-down marker. This is done to give the opposing team much worse field position than if a fourth-down conversion fails.

In theory, just about any offensive player can punt a live ball, but it's exceedingly rare.

2) Backward passes (laterals) are unlimited, but typically limited to backfield pitches from the quarterback to a running back. More than one lateral on a play is very, very rare.

3) There can only be one forward pass on any given play. More than one is an infraction.

4) Yes, that many referees are needed, as each watches a certain area of the field and certain types of players for infractions.

The measuring sticks have a ten-yard chain between them. The offensive team has four downs (attempts) to move the ball ten yards forward; if they do so, they get a fresh set of four downs. When the ball is spotted very close to the ten-yard mark, the sticks are brought out to verify whether or not the full ten yards have been reached.
wolf • Feb 7, 2005 11:37 am
Once again the Eagles snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. In sports, Philadelphia is often the bridesmaid, sometimes even the maid of honor, rarely the bride.

It was nice to watch the game with moderate emotional investment. The Eagles are here, and all, so I dutifully purchased a hat and teeshirt that I will not wear again for a while, and can go back to my usual response of not paying much attention to anything that is not involving daBears.

So, did anyone switch over to QVC to watch people pay obscene amounts of money for Patriots collectibles?
Undertoad • Feb 7, 2005 11:49 am
The unfree world settled on football, a game where there are about 6 rules.

America, the land of the free, settled on American football, a game with a rule book as thick as your arm, and one which is completely regulated in every single way.
Kitsune • Feb 7, 2005 12:02 pm
The unfree world settled on football, a game where there are about 6 rules.

America, the land of the free, settled on American football, a game with a rule book as thick as your arm, and one which is completely regulated in every single way.


Amusing consideration!

...but the important part is that American football isn't boring as all hell. Sure there are commercials and some downtime, but those are scheduled breaks for refreshing chips and finding more beer. They're needed and you won't miss anything.

Footba-- err, "soccer", on the other hand, might be won by the single goal scored in the first minute of the game. From there out, its just nothing but miles and miles of running back and forth. Yawn.

Gooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal! Gooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal!
Telefunken • Feb 7, 2005 12:41 pm
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wolf • Feb 7, 2005 1:15 pm
Speaking of the commercials ...

I loved the "Starting tomorrow, we're all undefeated again" ad for the NFL featuring all kinds of big, burly, tough guys singing "Tomorrow" from Annie.

Ordinarily that song makes me want to rip my ears off, but in that particular context (didn't they run a similar ad last year?) it's funny as hell.

Perhaps daBears will remember how to play football next season.

I can always hope.
Trilby • Feb 7, 2005 4:33 pm
[QUOTE=KitsuneFootba-- err, "soccer", on the other hand, might be won by the single goal scored in the first minute of the game. From there out, its just nothing but miles and miles of running back and forth. Yawn.

Gooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal! Gooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal![/QUOTE]


Reminds me of an amusing Simpson's episode where a riot breaks out during a soccer game only because the fans were bored out of their minds. The Simpson's....is there anything you don't know? :)
wolf • Feb 8, 2005 2:51 am
Work has been busy and I haven't been able to follow the news coverage very well ... is it true that Philly fans in Jacksonville behaved like they were at home and beat the shit out of Pats fans?
Griff • Feb 8, 2005 6:51 am
I dunno, I didn't see anything about that.

Are McNabb and the coach catching any heat for the slow down during their two minute drill? I'm going to have to give the Patsy's secondary a little more respect. I really thought it was just Ben's rookie status that made them look solid against Pitt.
Undertoad • Sep 14, 2007 8:35 am
Cheaters

Sheldon Brown and the Eagles hoped a blitz would rattle Tom Brady.

One problem: Every time the Eagles rushed Brady in the Super Bowl, the Patriots nullified the defensive attack with screen passes. Lots of them. On almost every play defensive coordinator Jim Johnson called for a blitz, the Patriots used the short pass to confuse the Eagles.

After the Patriots beat the Eagles 24-21 in 2005 to win the Lombardi Trophy, Brown thought the Patriots beat them with nothing but sharp offensive playcalling. Now, he's not so sure.

With spying accusations leveled this week against the Patriots, some of the Eagles left from the NFC title team are wondering if New England used bootleg film to their advantage in the Super Bowl.

"Do I think about it? Mmm hmmm," said Brown, their starting cornerback. "It's crazy. I just don't know how far back it goes. Something's not right about that."

Pro Bowl safety Brian Dawkins found the accusations troublesome. "Now there's always going to be questions about the situation," Dawkins said Thursday. "Was it great adjustments at halftime or what?"

Pittsburgh wide receiver Hines Ward said this week that he suspected the Patriots had some type of inside information on the Steelers before at least one of the teams' two AFC championship game matchups since the 2001 season.
Griff • Sep 14, 2007 8:39 am
My hatred of NE is now more sharply focused. There were so many moments when you'd think, "Wow how did they anticipate that?"
Spexxvet • Sep 14, 2007 9:00 am
Griff;385218 wrote:
My hatred of NE is now more sharply focused. There were so many moments when you'd think, "Wow how did they anticipate that?"


And "how do they win all the time? they only have 1 or 2 great players"
Griff • Sep 14, 2007 9:21 am
That's true. Tom Brady is best QB ever at reading coverag... oh, never mind.

(please let me have my contempt, it is sport after all)
lookout123 • Sep 14, 2007 12:50 pm
so they pay a pittance and lose a pick or two. big deal. brilliant bill should be out for 6 games and they should be barred from the playoffs this year.

the commish was actually starting to earn my respect with his approach to discipline and integrity. he's blown that with this slap on the wrist.:mad2: