Letter to President Bush from Dr. Bob Jones III

http://www.bju.edu/letter

President George W. Bush
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500

Dear Mr. President:

The media tells us that you have received the largest number of popular votes of any president in America's history. Congratulations!

In your re-election, God has graciously granted America—though she doesn't deserve it—a reprieve from the agenda of paganism. You have been given a mandate. We the people expect your voice to be like the clear and certain sound of a trumpet. Because you seek the Lord daily, we who know the Lord will follow that kind of voice eagerly.

Don't equivocate. Put your agenda on the front burner and let it boil. You owe the liberals nothing. They despise you because they despise your Christ. Honor the Lord, and He will honor you.

Had your opponent won, I would have still given thanks, because the Bible says I must (I Thessalonians 5:18). It would have been hard, but because the Lord lifts up whom He will and pulls down whom He will, I would have done it. It is easy to rejoice today, because Christ has allowed you to be His servant in this nation for another presidential term. Undoubtedly, you will have opportunity to appoint many conservative judges and exercise forceful leadership with the Congress in passing legislation that is defined by biblical norm regarding the family, sexuality, sanctity of life, religious freedom, freedom of speech, and limited government. You have four years—a brief time only—to leave an imprint for righteousness upon this nation that brings with it the blessings of Almighty God.

Christ said, “If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my father honour” (John 12:26).

The student body, faculty, and staff at Bob Jones University commit ourselves to pray for you—that you would do right and honor the Savior. Pull out all the stops and make a difference. If you have weaklings around you who do not share your biblical values, shed yourself of them. Conservative Americans would love to see one president who doesn't care whether he is liked, but cares infinitely that he does right.

Best wishes.

Sincerely your friend,

Bob Jones III
President

BJIII:lw

PS: A few moments ago I read this letter to the students in Chapel. They applauded loudly their approval.

When I told them that Tom Daschle was no longer the minority leader of the Senate, they cheered again.

Wow, he's even slamming all you "pagans." What a dip-shit. :mad:

Is that thing for reals? Tell me it's a joke, please! :eek:

He's the head of an evangelical christian university. That's how it works. The notion of paganism in evangelical circles actually doesn't mean what most people will interpret it as. Rather than the growing movement of polytheistic believers, it usually refers to doctrinal changes within the Christian Churches themselves.

And enclosing pagan in quotes, as though it's some theoretical construct, is unnecessary.

Yes it's real. Independently google the school, and it's linked right off the homepage.

Bob Jones uni, can you imagine applying for a job with that? It'd be like listing clown school as your masters.

There's nothing wrong with Bob Jones or his university that a few thousand tons of concrete couldn't fix, liberally applied.

wolf wrote:

Rather than the growing movement of polytheistic believers, it usually refers to doctrinal changes within the Christian Churches themselves.

And it absolutely includes Catholics like Kerry.

jaguar wrote:

Bob Jones uni, can you imagine applying for a job with that? It'd be like listing clown school as your masters.

It's perfectly acceptible if the company you send your resume to is run by the same clowns.

Being a Mime is a perfectly acceptable profession. I admire everything about what they don't do. ;)

So, I went and checked out the Bob Jones University site and this is what I found:

"Romanism is a pagan counterfeit of the Christian religion, ancient paganism and idolatry, claiming to be the church which Christ founded. The Roman Church is not another Christian denomination. It is a satanic counterfeit, an ecclesiastic tyranny over the souls of men, not to bring them to salvation but to hold them bound in sin and to hurl them into eternal damnation. It is the old harlot of the book of the Revelation—"the Mother of Harlots
A Catholic may be saved in spite of his church. He will never be saved because of it. Because they ignore the Word of God, both papists and charismatics are doing the work of the devil.

The Book of Joel teaches about the Day of the Lord. The world is headed for destruction. God is patient and has withheld His hand of judgment while men have turned their back on Him, but the day is coming when He will say, "It is enough." His anger will come in flaming fire on those who obey Him not."
http://www.bju.edu/resources/faith/1981/issue6/movement.html

I guess everyone at least up to the time of Martin Luther went to hell - and that's the Christians. It's a given that members of all other faiths are being consumed by the flames even as I write this. You may think that Bob Jones adherants are some whacked out minority. While they are a minority, it's a bigger minority than most people realize. I encounter adherants to this belief system in the fundamentalist epi-center near my own town all the time. This thinking is why a good Christian could warn me to leave the place I live because "God is going to get all those Pagans up there" sooner than I think.
I am so glad that people with the Bob Jones mindset are pleased over Junior's re-election. I think I'll go hide now.

Look at what religous hatred is doing in peaceful, tolerant Holland, BTW. http://www.slate.com/id/2109523/

LOL @ BJ U

See, I told you they didn't mean real pagans.

And in a strict interpretation of the bible sense, they are right on target about the pagan elements of the Roman Catholic church.

I do wonder if Chick Tracts are counted as text books.

wolf wrote:

See, I told you they didn't mean real pagans.

And in a strict interpretation of the bible sense, they are right on target about the pagan elements of the Roman Catholic church.

I do wonder if Chick Tracts are counted as text books.

Yeah, I'd like to see their stance on Wicca, for example. I'm sure they are equally filled with love for Buddhists and Hindu's as well. :eyebrow:

It must be a bumper week for religious nuts:
Archbishop Pell (aussie) calls for democracy to change to counter the threat of Islam

See...I *told* you that more Pagans are former Catholics than any other religion. It is because they were already engaged in goddess worship, and they are used to flashy rituals and interesting clothes.

marichiko wrote:

Yeah, I'd like to see their stance on Wicca, for example. I'm sure they are equally filled with love for Buddhists and Hindu's as well. :eyebrow:

Face it, Mari--unless you're a wing-nut Christian of the Bob Jones variety, you are GOING TO HELL. I bet they don't even know what Wicca is.

It's so funny how people get freaked out by religions they don't understand. At my old job I had a little Buddha statue on my desk, not because I'm Buddhist, but just because it made me happy to look at it. One of my co-workers was a fanatical born-again Christian (of the Bob Jones variety), and that little statue pissed her off to no end. It might as well been a statue of Satan. I subsequently aquired several more relics of Buddhism, Hinduism and Judaism and put those on my desk, too. Ha. :)

garnet wrote:

I bet they don't even know what Wicca is.

For folks like that, they don't need to. They just need to know that Wicca != their brand of Christianity, that it is something other than THEIR religion, which of course is the CORRECT or TRUE religion. Doesn't matter what it is, it's history or it's validity with the people who follow it. This can apply to any religious zealot, regardless of official religious affiliation.

garnet wrote:

Face it, Mari--unless you're a wing-nut Christian of the Bob Jones variety, you are GOING TO HELL. I bet they don't even know what Wicca is.

It's so funny how people get freaked out by religions they don't understand. At my old job I had a little Buddha statue on my desk, not because I'm Buddhist, but just because it made me happy to look at it. One of my co-workers was a fanatical born-again Christian (of the Bob Jones variety), and that little statue pissed her off to no end. It might as well been a statue of Satan. I subsequently aquired several more relics of Buddhism, Hinduism and Judaism and put those on my desk, too. Ha. :)

My favorate encounter was with a former Jehovah's Witness who took exception to a poster of the Green Tara (a Tibetan Buddhist feminine form of the Buddha) that I had on my wall. He studied the poster for about 10 minutes with the look on his face becoming ever more uncomfortable. Finally, he said, "She sure is green. Is that what your God looks like?" :D

garnet wrote:

It's so funny how people get freaked out by religions they don't understand. At my old job I had a little Buddha statue on my desk, not because I'm Buddhist, but just because it made me happy to look at it. One of my co-workers was a fanatical born-again Christian (of the Bob Jones variety), and that little statue pissed her off to no end. It might as well been a statue of Satan. I subsequently aquired several more relics of Buddhism, Hinduism and Judaism and put those on my desk, too. Ha. :)

At last, Garnet and I have something in common! I have a little bronze Buddha sitting on top of my monitor at work looking at me right now! One of our salesmen went on vacation and brought something back for everyone. Since I'm the resident oddball religion guy, I got Buddha (everyone else got tropical t-shirts and the like). He knew that I was not Buddhist, but since I told him Pagans were really into graven images, it was the first thing he thought of for me.

Elspode wrote:

At last, Garnet and I have something in common! I have a little bronze Buddha sitting on top of my monitor at work looking at me right now!

Ha ha! Yeah, I'm a fan of the "oddball" religions myself. I'm particularly interested in the Eastern religions. I'm woefully under-educated about them, but something about that smiling Buddha has always cheered me up :)

Elspode wrote:

........... I have a little bronze Buddha sitting on top of my monitor at work looking at me right now!

My boy isnt good enough to stare at you while you are working? Sounds like descrimination to me.

And as for the *really* annoying Christian types hassling people; I sincerly apologize.

The real hard core people cannot be distracted by cable tv and just leave people where they are, much as I have tried to get them wired.

God wrote:

My boy isnt good enough to stare at you while you are working? Sounds like descrimination to me.

And as for the *really* annoying Christian types hassling people; I sincerly apologize.

There, there Big Guy. Aren't all those folks wearing crucifixes enough for you? BTW, notice how no one ever complains about Buddhists hassling Christians for their crosses? I think you may be getting an image problem. I'll have my PR guys call yours and they all can do lunch sometime.

Buddha wrote:

I'll have my PR guys call yours and they all can do lunch sometime.

Ok, I'm sure your people could learn something. Notice the growing trend of red states. I'm getting my mojo back.


What color states might be representing your philosophy? Blue? Emerald? Oh, that's right....you really arent represented in large numbers here in America.

jaguar wrote:

It must be a bumper week for religious nuts:
Archbishop Pell (aussie) calls for democracy to change to counter the threat of Islam

God bless his little heart, he wants democracy to thrive so I'll be free to do what he tells me I must do. :crazy:

xoxoxoBruce wrote:

God bless his little heart, he wants democracy to thrive so I'll be free to do what he tells me I must do. :crazy:

Good luck selling that to the Aussies. I choose to believe that Australia and New Zealand are two places where the 'give up your freedom for the illusion of safety' argument won't fly with the populace.

We wrote of Pell as a nutter a long time ago, he's just trying to secure himself a higher place in the vatican.

jaguar wrote:

We wrote of Pell as a nutter a long time ago, he's just trying to secure himself a higher place in the vatican.

In a wide-ranging speech which also attacked his critics for suggesting conservative Christians were a danger to democracy, Dr Pell said communism had showed how the emptiness of the secular approach could be filled with something darker.

...and he's just the man to do it!


Unfortunately, there are places here where he would be all too welcome.

richlevy wrote:

Good luck selling that to the Aussies. I choose to believe that Australia and New Zealand are two places where the 'give up your freedom for the illusion of safety' argument won't fly with the populace.

Don't count on it. They turned in their guns.

Frankly, I could handle Pope Pell as long as he doesn't frigging come back. On the flipside I have to agree with wolf- they re-elected Howard, the lieing little shit.