Dirty tactics in the presidential race
It seems that with each election, the members of political parties are willing to stoop to lower and lower levels to sabotage their opponents. Take a
recent incident in Las Vegas, for example:
The I-Team has obtained information about an alleged widespread pattern of potential registration fraud aimed at Democrats. The focus of the story is a private registration company called Voters Outreach of America.
The out-of-state firm has been in Las Vegas for the past few months, registering voters. It employed up to 300 part-time workers and collected hundreds of registrations per day, but former employees of the company say that Voters Outreach of America only wanted Republican registrations.
Two former workers say they personally witnessed company supervisors rip up and trash registration forms signed by Democrats.
Or
this one, where Sinclair Broadcast Group is trying to use their widespread exposure to push their political views:
The Democratic Party and 18 senators are seeking a pair of federal investigations into Sinclair Broadcast Group's plans to preempt network primetime programing on its 62 TV stations nationwide later this month to air a documentary critical of Sen. John Kerry's antiwar activities.
The Democratic National Committee plans to file a complaint with the Federal Election Commission that alleges that the documentary "Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal" is an illegal in-kind contribution to President Bush's campaign. Many of the stations the Baltimore-based company owns are in critical "battleground states."
Both major parties are guilty of this to one degreee or another. What other such dirty tactics have you read about, by members of either party?
Depends on your definition of "dirty."
The Republican election officials in Florida tried to cut thousands of Demoratic voters from the voting lists because they had been convicted of felonies, but they refused to let the media see the list to make sure it was accurate. Then when they were sued by the media to make the list public, they fought in court to keep the list of purged voters secret. Is that dirty enough for you?
Turns out they lost the suit, the list became public, and the media found that it was full of tons of errors, so it was thrown out. All this took place this past summer.
On the Colorado state level, the sole democratic elected representative from El Paso County, Michael Merrifield, has been the target of one of the most nasty, slanderous, character assasination attacks that I ever have ever seen. The state Republican party has sent out mailings depicting Merrifield as standing behind prison bars when in fact he has never broken any laws or even been charged with any instance of wrong doing - certainly he has never been sentenced to jail. The whole thing is based on the fact that some realtor donated Merrifield the use of a small cottage (about 500sq feet) which is situated on an alley, back from the main street, for use as a neighborhood outreach center for Merrifield's constituents. Merrifield neglected to note this down among his list of official campaign contributers (value roughly a whopping $145.00/mo). This oversight was corrected by Merrifield within a month of his having made the minor book-keeping error. This hasn't stopped the Republican party from sending out the mass mailings depicting Merrifield standing behind prison bars. "We didn't know he would correct the book-keeping error," whined one Republican in the party's main headquarters in Denver. "The mailings had already gone out and you can't stop the US Postal Service."
Yeah, neither rain nor snow nor dark of night will stop the Republican Party from stooping as low as a snake's belly and further disgracing itself in the eyes of the world. :cool:
Max Cleland (D, GA), got compared to Saddam Hussein for not voting for a Homeland Security bill that had a rider that would take away benefits from an insane number of government workers. Also, during the Republican primaries in 2000, Bush people started a calling campaign in South Carolina to remind everyone in South Carolina that John McCain has a black baby. Not that it matters, but the truth is that he adopted a baby from Bangladesh.
They're both absolutely filthy. I really don't see why people let themselves get whipped into a creamy froth over whatever 'big news scandal' is coming out. No one is perfect, no matter what political party colors he's got painted on his face, no matter his public profession of faith, no matter his intentions or his ability to plan and lead. If the DNC and RNC can get PAST that, I think we'd all be better off.
Of course both parties have their dirty tricksters - but this time 'round, the Republicans have been by far the most egregious offenders.
No one is perfect, no matter what political party colors he's got painted on his face, no matter his public profession of faith, no matter his intentions or his ability to plan and lead.
No reasonable person expects perfection in government leaders, in fact one of the contributing virtues to perfection is "not a polititian." But reasonable people DO expect at least an average level of intelligence, morality, honesty, and integrity. What's unfortunate is that have to keep lowering the bar because none of the people running can reach it. The result is a government full of immoral, self-serving bullshit peddlers. And the guys with integrity and honesty don't want to be anywhere near them.
Of course both parties have their dirty tricksters - but this time 'round, the Republicans have been by far the most egregious offenders.
Agreed... the Republicans are being particularly nefarious on this go-around.
The Democratic National Committee plans to file a complaint with the Federal Election Commission that alleges that the documentary "Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal" is an illegal in-kind contribution to President Bush's campaign.
I haven't read up on this too much, but how is this any different than Fahrenheit 9/11?
What's unfortunate is that have to keep lowering the bar because none of the people running can reach it.
I think that you have it backwards. The bar isn't getting lowered. There are, somewhere, politicians who aren't willing to sell their soul to achieve their ends, it's just that if you aren't willing to sell your soul you can't get anywhere in politics.
It's not a question of standards as much as a question of what is a successful political animal and what is not.
Ethics and morals vs political and personal agendas.
No successful politician is trustworthy except when you are counting on that person to do what is in their best interests.
No reasonable person expects perfection in government leaders...
True, but reasonable people are all too often in short supply.
No successful politician is trustworthy except when you are counting on that person to do what is in their best interests.
"
Me? I'm dishonest, and a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly. It's the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they're going to do something incredibly... stupid."...like run for public office. :D
-Jack Sparrow,
Pirates of the CaribbeanI haven't read up on this too much, but how is this any different than Fahrenheit 9/11?
It's different because
Sinclair Broadcast group is forcing all of their affiliates to air "Stolen Honor" a few days before the election, pre-empting all other programming, even in swing states. The affiliates have no choice in the matter. And Sinclair is considering categorizing it as "news," to avoid laws which require them to give balanced treatment to the presidential candidates. Nice, eh?
Fahrenheit 911 may become available on Pay-Per-View before te election, but that's a different thing.
I've said it many times before: Hold your principles tightly, your issues loosely, and your candidates (or party) in contempt.
I suppose the reason I am so enraged over the slanders the Republicans are sending Merrifield's way is because I know him personally, and he's a decent human being who makes every effort to be there for his constituents. When speaking of last's year's Colorado State Legislature session he told me, "The whole exercise made me so sick at heart that I had to go off alone into the mountains for a month to heal my soul." God help us all if that's what serving in one of our governing bodies does to a good man.
I haven't read up on this too much, but how is this any different than Fahrenheit 9/11?
a) Viewers pay to see F911, the Swift Boat Ad is being shown on network TV.
b) It is being shown within the restricted ad window - even ads for the F911 DVD no longer feature images of a presidental candidate.
There is an upcoming showing of
Stolen Honor in a theater here in the Philadelphia Suburbs (The Baederwood in Jenkintown).
There's no problem there. Make it a double feature with "
Going Upriver".
A
follow-up to the story on Las Vegas Democratic voter registration forms being tossed...
well, i've stayed out of this one so far and don't really want to get in too deep because no one will be able to convince anyone of anything in this debate, but...
i happen to know Nathan Sproul and a little something about the charges about destroying D voter reg's. the first guy who came forward was terminated after repeated warnings for timecard forgery. he had to be physically restrained and removed from the office when he was fired. he might just have a little axe to grind.
the guy in oregon apparently was never on the company payroll.
what is happening right now does fall in line with page 54 of that ridiculous D gameplan to bring attention to vote suppression that has been made public in the last week.
Sproul filed a multi-million libel suit yesterday. he is pretty far to the right for my tastes, but fraud isn't exactly in this guy's bag of tricks. i know firsthand that the organization has been accepting D and independent or any other type of registrations with no malice.
just my $.02.
sometimes, not everything reported in the news is 100% true, even when it appears to be factually accurate.
edit: thought i should add that this is my take on the situation to this point from the info that i have received from those involved with the situation - not from media and blog reports.
nathan sproul is not a saint, and i make no such claim. he is a far right republican with all that that title entails. my knowledge of the man makes me question allegations of intentional attempts at destruction of voter registrations. i do not have video or audio tapes to support just a personal knowledge of the man.
i happen to know Nathan Sproul and a little something about the charges about destroying D voter reg's. it's BS. the first guy who came forward was terminated after repeated warnings for timecard forgery. he had to be physically restrained and removed from the office when he was fired. he might just have a little axe to grind.
And Hitler was a friend of mine. Lookout123 posts as if he was citing proof. I expect this of slick salesman. Just because I knew Hitler, therefore I know those Gypsys were not killed? Same reasoning that Lookout123 uses in his latest post.
No matter what you may think of the accuser, the news reporters say in no uncertain terms that Democratic voter registration forms WERE destroyed. That is not BS. Lookout123 would have us forget that little fact. But then Lookout123 is a poster boy of right wing extremist propaganda - where supporting facts never need be provided. He still fears to say when we will go after bin Laden. Good extremists simply avoid hard questions. He still cannot cite the one Saddam attack that justified war. He just knows Saddam would have attacked America. So he never answers hard questions.
Tell us Lookou123 that those Democratic ballots were not destroyed. This is not even a hard question. I understand how you fear hard questions. But please feel free to explain why 8 Action News outrightly lied and that you are so much better informed - just because you know Nathan Sproul. You insult everyone here when you don't provide proof - supporting facts. Put up the facts.
i happen to know Nathan Sproul and a little something about the charges about destroying D voter reg's. it's BS.
Now provide those supporting facts. A questions too difficult? Show us how you know so much more than those reporters. Show us that you are not lying. Show us that you do not do as the current president does without remorse. Do what honest people do. Provide facts why you know Nathan Sproul would not do that.
Good extremists simply avoid hard questions.
where supporting facts never need be provided.
So he never answers hard questions.
Now provide those supporting facts. A questions too difficult?
Do what honest people do. Provide facts
ah, bitter irony.
let's face it tw, you're simply a bitch in a blue dress on your knees for the party line.
edit: in retrospect this would have been better not to post, my apologies for the crassness. i will, however, leave it in recognition of my friendship with Captain Morgan that influenced this post. he is pretty far to the right for my tastes, but fraud isn't exactly in this guy's bag of tricks.
Fraud is well within
his bag of tricks.
ah, bitter irony.
let's face it tw, you're simply a bitch in a blue dress on your knees for the party line.
Lookout123 who still cannot answer even a simple question because as a right wing extremist and partner of Nathan Sproul, he must wait for approval from Karl Rove. Or is he Osama bin Laden - who also is a strong supporter of George Jr? After all, they are both from right wing extremist factions and they both make decisions based upon their religion.
tw- i think that after you're unwillingness or inability to post any support for your position in the other thread you may have lost the credibility to demand answers from anyone.
happy monkey - yeah, i saw that story and have read a bit more about it. it looks pretty shady, i'm surprised he was willing to sink that low. i think they should have just come out and stated that they were a republican voter reg program. unfortunately they didn't - that in and of itself isn't proof that there was a plot to destroy D reg's.
if it turns out that there is proof of that, then my opinion of the man will really change. until then, in my mind he will remain what he has been to this point - a good man (if a kool-aid drinker) who is involved in politics. i have yet to see anyone involved with politics who is without fault, so... we'll call this one a developing issue.
i think they should have just come out and stated that they were a republican voter reg program.
They did worse than conceal that they were partisan - they said that they were associated with a particular nonpartisan group -
America Votes - which they were not. That's fraud. That fraud doesn't prove this fraud, but your character witness testimony doesn't have much weight compared to his past behavior.
And no, I don't buy that the name is a coincidence.
HM - i wouldn't expect the fact that i know him and generally think well of the man to cause anyone to simply dismiss any idea of wrongdoing. my experiences with him cause me to not believe the charges of D registration destruction until i have seen real proof.
did Sproul and his organization screw up with their name choice and the way they went about doing business? absolutely. without a doubt.
does that necessarily mean they had a malicious plan to destroy voter registration forms that weren't filed as republican? no. if proof comes out that this was done the way that is being characterized in news stories right now, then i will stand right alongside you and condemn him as a dirty jackass.
Thankfully,
this one is unlikely to succeed.
Not the presidential race, but:
A sample ballot provided for voter education:
What's missing? Hyde's Democratic opposition,
Christine Cegelis.
I just heard Jimmy Carter on NPR talking about his debate with Reagan. He brought up right-wing columnist
George Will's coaching of Ronald Reagan using stolen notes from Carter's campaign.
This was the first I have ever heard of it.
More
attempts to suppress turnout:
He told the elderly woman that her voting site had changed and that on Nov. 2 she and her husband should cast their ballots at a South Side precinct. The caller even left the phone number of the board.
...
"They said there was no way in the world they would make such a call," he said. "I think it’s hankypanky and somebody in the election is trying to kill some votes."
...
Damschroder said there are two scams: The caller tells voters their precincts have changed or the caller offers to pick up an absentee-ballot application, deliver the ballot to the voter and return the completed ballot to the elections office.
And Atrios got
a message from one candidate in Ohio:
The voter problems have already begun, and Republicans are apparently taking this race very seriously. Absentee ballots are being mailed with the wrong Congressional race on them… leaving my race out of the ballot. The ballots are being mailed to the City of Trotwood and is heavily Democratic and not being on the ballot here is devastating. Just as important, if these are irregular ballots, it will give Ken Blackwell a reason to throw them out… affecting Kerry’s race, too. We don’t know how many went out.
The ballots are being sent with Jeff Hardenbrook’s name rather than Jane's; John Boehner is the Republican. Hardenbrook is a perennial candidate who PLANS not to raise money, and files paper FEC reports. He barely managed 29% of the vote last time. Of course, here in Ohio, we have the situation with Republican Attorney General Kenneth Blackwell seeking to disqualify any ballot cast at the wrong precinct; of course he would do the same with these, knocking out Kerry votes as well as Jane's.
A quick rundown of
problems in Ohio.
If someone drops by to "pick up" your absentee ballot for you,
don't give it to them!
I expect what we have here is not some new rash of problems, but increased attention to things that were there all along. Which is a good thing.
This isn't specific on tactics, or specifically about the presidential race, but it's indicative of attitude:
“It’s time now for the American people to understand that we (the GOP) are a permanent majority.”
Tom DeLay, August 18, 2004
I expect what we have here is not some new rash of problems, but increased attention to things that were there all along. Which is a good thing.
Mostly things that have existed for some time and should have been resolved before the primaries but weren't. That's a bad thing. :(
A possible
challenge list in Florida:
It lists 1,886 names and addresses of voters in predominantly black and traditionally Democrat areas of Jacksonville, Florida.
An elections supervisor in Tallahassee, when shown the list, told Newsnight: "The only possible reason why they would keep such a thing is to challenge voters on election day."
We'll see if they do use it that way.
As an aside, it looks like the annoying Republican habit of using "Democrat" as an adjective has spread across the pond. :(
At least in Ohio, they're challenging them
a week early:
The Cuyahoga County Board of Elections must find more than 17,000 registered voters by Friday to tell them they may be culled from the rolls by Republican challengers
[b]<hbr></hbr>Republicans Urge Minorities To Get Out And Vote On
Nov. 3
:D
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Ah, the Onion. Too often proven
prescient.
Anyway, back to
Florida.
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Local 10 has learned that many as many as 58,000 ballots that were supposed to mailed out on Oct. 7 and 8 could be missing.The Broward County Supervisor of Elections office is saying only that the situation is "unusual," and they are looking into it.
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Ah, the Onion. Too often proven prescient.
Anyway, back to Florida.
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If it was deliberate, I hope they give whoever did it 1 year on each count of election fraud and mail fraud, for each of the 58,000 pieces of mail.
At least in Ohio, they're challenging them a week early:
A
follow-up:
The Ohio Republican Party last week challenged the validity of 17,780 voter registrations in the county.
But records show that more than 9,000 of these registrations are for "inactive" voters who should remain on the rolls according to the federal National Voter Registration Act.
...Does that mean that just under 8780 of those registrations should not remain on the rolls? :confused:
No, it just means that those challenges can't be summarily ruled spurious according to this particular rule. But 8780 challenges will waste far less time than 17780, so we're moving in the right direction.
OK, these are
dirty tactics, and they're
election-related, but they're not actually dirty tactics
to win the election.
The College Republican National Committee has raised $6.3 million this year through an aggressive and misleading fund-raising campaign that collected money from senior citizens who thought they were giving to the election efforts of President Bush and other top Republicans.
...
But all of those groups, according to the small print on the letters, were simply projects of the College Republicans, who collected all of the checks.
And little of the money went to election efforts.
$6.3 million will buy a LOT of beer. Those guys know how to party.
Any of you Pennsylvanians in
Dunmore or Scranton? Make sure you know where to vote!
This is so over the top as to be suspicious, but no matter which side is doing it, it's certainly dirty politics.
Ok, that's dirtier than a stable muck rake.
Today is the first time that I've seen the Shit Boat Veterans commercials on local television here in Philadelphia. Come on, baby! Flog that dead horse!
I need someone to help me confirm this, but if I heard the news correctly this evening, haven't some people in the Pittsburgh area been telling folks that, in order to prevent long lines, only registered Republicans vote on Nov. 2, and that Democrats should show up to the polls on the 3rd?
Edit: Also, I must assume that the Black Voter's League thing above is Republican BS, because despite the Magical Parade O' Minorites, black folks tend to vote Dem (though apparently Dubya has little problem courting the Mexican-American vote, what with his temporary work visas and such).
I need someone to help me confirm this, but if I heard the news correctly this evening, haven't some people in the Pittsburgh area been telling folks that, in order to prevent long lines, only registered Republicans vote on Nov. 2, and that Democrats should show up to the polls on the 3rd?
Uh, that's a joke email that's been circulating lately. There's also one that says if you support Bush, drive with your headlights on during the day, if you support Kerry drive with your headlights off during the night. (must be more of that Republican BS, huh?)
I think if anyone's so naive as to believe either one of these to be anything other than what they are, a joke, they're too stupid to vote in an election as important as this one.
This American Life
on voter suppression. (RealMedia)
I'm taking my son Jeffrey to the polls here in PA tommorrow. Jeffrey first voted in this years Democratic presidential primary. He has made up his own mind who to vote for and which party to register under, and when we went to the county clerks office to register him I was careful to list all of the parties, including none of the above. In theory, as a second-time voter he should have no problems.
Jeffrey is autistic. I'm taking my camera/videocam with me. For the primary this was to proudly record his first vote (my other son went to the polls by himself). For this election I do intend to have a picture of my wife and I and our two sons as they vote in their first presidential election. Unfortunately, I also may need to record any objections that come up. One of Jeffrey's bus drivers is a with the local Republican committee. He saw Jeffrey vote in the primaries. He's a pretty nice guy, but that doesn't mean that there may not be a challenge, even though there is no legal standing for one.
Jeffrey has it listed that he may need assistance. I do not want to be involved in assisting him. By my standards, nobody with any partisan beliefs should be in the booth with him. Unfortunately, in this election finding a non-partisan is tough. I'm going to have to rely on the poll workers to do their duty if necessary. Fortunately, Jeffrey will not let himself be influenced by anyone once he makes up his mind.
I'm taking my son Jeffrey to the polls here in PA tommorrow.
*snip*
Jeffrey is autistic.
*snip*
He's a pretty nice guy, but that doesn't mean that there may not be a challenge, even though there is no legal standing for one.
Please don't take this the wrong way but how autistic is he?
One of the biggest problems with democracy is the number of people that are unqualified to vote yet do so.
On the other hand, if with a bit of effort he is able to actually make a reasoned decision then I applaud you both because he is taking his responsibility more seriously than most.
On that nice guy note, does anyone actually know the full requisites for voting?
One of the biggest problems with democracy is the number of people that are unqualified to vote yet do so.
Oh really? I thought it was the number of people that are qualified to vote yet do not. :eyebrow:
and when we went to the county clerks office to register him I was careful to list all of the parties, including none of the above.
I don't understand this, Rich. You mean you listed them for the kid to choose from? :confused:
Oh really? I thought it was the number of people that are qualified to vote yet do not. :eyebrow:
Nah, there are way
WAY more ignorant voters than there are qualified non-voters.
It's getting down to the wire i
n West Virginia.
And more in Ohio (this is not from the Board of Elections).
The ignorance belong to those who vote for someone based on their party. "Well I have always voted Democrat, so I shall continue to do so." If people would actually pay attention to the issues, instead of making up their mind before they even begin camaigning...we might actually have a working democracy.
BTW...Vote Badnarik!
Nah, there are way WAY more ignorant voters than there are qualified non-voters.
Ignorant and qualified are two different issues. :p
If there's a 35/40 % turnout your statement can't be true.
Please don't take this the wrong way but how autistic is he?
One of the biggest problems with democracy is the number of people that are unqualified to vote yet do so.
On the other hand, if with a bit of effort he is able to actually make a reasoned decision then I applaud you both because he is taking his responsibility more seriously than most.
On that nice guy note, does anyone actually know the full requisites for voting?
Citizenship, age, and residency. That's it.
It just so happens that there was an article in todays's Inquirer about
Special-needs voters prepare for the polls .
Jeffrey has been working part time at a convenience store for 5 years. He is largely self directed. When a new job coach came on and told him to do something that he knew was wrong he corrected her.
I do not know how Jeffrey chose his party affiliation. If he did it becuase of what his parents believed, that is no different from many families. I have been very careful not to impose my beliefs on Jeffrey, but he does here my wife and I discuss politics and he watches the same TV commercials as anyone else. I will defend his choice even if he choses to disagree with me.
With the partisanship in this election and all sides being reminded just how important a vote is, there may be challenges. The Constitution and the law is on Jeffrey's side. He will make his choice tomorrow, hopefully with no need for assistance.
Everyone from gun users to pro-choice activists know the slippery slope argument. That is the argument that any restriction is a step on the path to prohibition. I would be loathe to go back to the days of written tests.
Such disfranchising laws included poll taxes, literacy tests, vouchers of "good character" and disqualification for "crimes of moral turpitude." These laws were "color-blind" on their face, but were designed to exclude black citizens disproportionately by allowing white election officials to apply the procedures selectively. Other laws and practices, such as the "white primary", attempted to evade the 15th Amendment by allowing "private" political parties to conduct elections and establish qualifications for their members.
Well, I thought I would make it to election day but I was wrong. Sometime this evening my Kerry-Edwards lawn sign was stolen. I noticed it when I got home from work this evening.
I left a message for our police department and went to the local Democratic headquarters where I got two :finger: new lawn signs.
I don't remember where this was, but some guy I saw on the news over the weekend went so far as to electrify his Bush-Cheney sign.
Damn straight...keep your fucking mitts off things that don't belong to you.
All of the patients on my unit (psych) who wish to vote have the right to do so and will have help voting tomorrow from the social workers and a member of each party there to monitor that things are fair and no one is intimidated. If members of our society who wear tin foil hats and believe they are Jesus can vote, I'd have no qualms whatsoever with an autistic voter. Alzheimer's patients have the right to vote. This is, after all, the United States.
Being involuntarily committed to a mental health facility is not actually a judgment in terms of competency. You retain the right to do things like manage your own affairs, enter into contracts, marry, and vote.
I wasn't privy to this year's discussion of what to do in case a patient wants to vote, but in past years we have had staff from Activities and Outreach escort people to their home polls.
Along with other Cellar members I have met Rich's son. He is autisic, but in my experience of other clients with the same disability he is very capable, and able to understand things like the political process. He's a good kid. (What you folks here may or may not know is that as good as I am with the severely mentally ill, I'm not as smooth when dealing with the developmentally disabled. I usually end up getting sucker punched, as a matter of fact, because I'm not very good at reading the behavior cues). I've actually been very impressed in my interactions with the young Mr. Levy. He's much more socially able than I have come to expect, although there is no doubt of his disorder in even a brief interaction. I guess, Rich, what I'm really trying to say here is that you, your wife, and others in his life have done an excellent job in raising him and encouraging his independence.
Indeed. The so-called "Schwarzkopf" call is a fake. He is not endorsing Kerry. General McPeak is, andd he's the one who made the call.
Here's the original[size=1](wav)[/size].
According to the DNC:
"This is a desperate, pathetic, 11th hour dirty trick by the Republicans. In an effort to gin up a last minute media controversy and smear the Democrats, the Republicans intentionally spliced a recorded call by Four Star General 'Tony' McPeak and tried to peddle it to the press. This type of dishonesty is a fitting end to George W. Bush's failed Presidency, a Presidency that unfortunately for the American people, was also defined by deceit and deception."
I don't blame Schwarzkopf, I suspect someone just gave him the spliced tape, and he was justifiably outraged.
I don't know about you, but I would not want that man mad at me.
Jeffrey has been working part time at a convenience store for 5 years. He is largely self directed. When a new job coach came on and told him to do something that he knew was wrong he corrected her.
:thumbsup:
Regardless of his or your decision on who gets to screw us this term. :)
TO THE POINT ELECTION EVE HEADS UP #2
I have just been informed by Republican volunteers in southern Pennsylvania that registered Republicans 65 years and older are being systematically called and told that the location of their polling place has been moved, then given a wrong address.
Hundreds of Republican volunteers are now having to call these senior voters up and tell them about the dirty trick and to go to their regular polling place. If any of you have heard of similar dirty tricks in your area, please let me know at [email]drjack@tothepointnews.com[/email].
Bill Middendorf called me to explain that he can not publicly reveal details about John Kerry’s Other Than Honorable (OTH) Discharge as it would be a violation of the Privacy Act. He does, however, have complete confidence in Mark Sullivan, who was Bill’s Judge Advocate General when Bill was Secretary of the Navy, and who has revealed that Kerry’s OTH was expunged by Jimmy Carter.
The stor! y is now up on WorldNetDaily. For some strange reason, perhaps Matt Drudge\'s antipathy to the military, Drudge refuses to run it. The New York Sun will carry an article about it, written by Tom Lipscomb, tomorrow. The story of Kerry\'s OTH, breaking on election eve and election day, will have an impact.
Jack Wheeler
To The Point - The Oasis for Rational Conservatives.
http://www.tothepointnews.comDr. Jack is quite a piece of work! A real life Indiana Jones! :rolleyes:
Dr. Jack is quite a piece of work! A real life Indiana Jones! :rolleyes:
I don't get it. :confused:
Well we voted at 7:30 this morning. We waited in line about an hour in a polling place where I have never had to wait more than 10 minutes. Jeffrey was able to vote on his own, although the election people were ready to help him if he needed it. He even split his vote instead of voting the party ticket.
The only difference was a poll watcher at a table. She was writing down peoples names. Whiole she did not ask for ID, most people thought it was easier giving her drivers licenses to copy off of. She had a sheet of paper on the table authorizing her as an official poll watcher. There was no mention of her affiliation, if any.
One of the women who works with me, the one who has the anti-Kerry wall, took off to do volunteer work at the polls for the Republicans. Lord help whoever she decides to challenge.
BTW, I heard about people waiting in long lines (3-4 hours) in Ohio because polling places which had 5 machines in the last election only had 2 or 3 in this one. Was this deliberate? With all of the Federal money being thrown around after 2000, how could they have underestimated turnout in what everyone knew would be the largest election in US history? I'm glad a judge has ruled that if you are in line when the polls close, you get to vote. From a bipartisan fairness perspective, that just makes sense.
I did hear about someone slashing the tires of the vans Republicans were going to use in their get out the vote efforts. Does Radar have an alibi? :eyebrow:
hey rich - good job on getting your son out to vote. oh and you too i guess. :D
