The Dallas Cowboys Update Thread
Because our team is better, we deserve a whole entire thread to talk about how great the Cowboys are. So here it is.
Anyone that says anything bad about the Cowboys and isn't a fan will be killed and eaten. By sycamore.
today, they signed Eddie George to a 2.2mil contract with up to 3mil more in incentives. Just what the doctor ordered, I think.
Ready For Eddie; Cowboys Sign RB
Nick Eatman
DallasCowboys.com Staff Writer
July 23, 2004, 11:03 a.m. (CDT)
IRVING, Texas -- The Cowboys were prepared to enter training camp with only three healthy running backs, who had a total of 358 rushing yards.
Now the Cowboys can add more than 10,000 yards to that total, with the signing of Eddie George, an eight-year veteran who gives immediate experience and credibility to the position.
Now George certainly won't be the team's long-term answer, signing just a one-year deal, reportedly worth $2.2 million. The veteran back is expected to receive a $1.54 million bonus to report to training camp, along with his $660,000 minimum base salary.
And signing George doesn't diminish the Cowboys' faith in rookie Julius Jones, the second-round pick from Notre Dame. Jones will likely get plenty of opportunities to prove himself, only now the Cowboys have more of a fallback in George.
Before this signing, the Cowboys had just Aveion Cason and ReShard Lee to back up Jones, now that Erik Bickerstaff is out for the season after rupturing his Achilles last month.
George, who was released by the Tennessee Titans Wednesday for salary cap reasons, still thinks he has a few years left in the tank. And while that has yet to be determined, the Cowboys are in a position, both financially and from a roster need standpoint, to take a close look.
And why not take a chance on a running back who just surpassed the 10,000-yard rushing mark in just eight seasons?
George, who turns 31 Sept. 13, rejected the Titans' attempts to reduce his base salary to $1.5 million. George was willing to accept a reduced contract, but wanted at least $2.5 million in base and security beyond the 2004 season.
Quickly after releasing George, the Titans agreed to a one-year deal with free agent running back Antowain Smith, who helped the Patriots win a Super Bowl last season. Smith, a player the Cowboys were keeping an eye on, signed for just $660,000 with the Titans and is expected to compete for carries with both Chris Brown and third-down back Robert Holcombe.
George, who actually started his career in Texas when the Titans were the Houston Oilers, is the franchise's all-time leading rusher. He is also the only running back in NFL history to record more than 300 carries in each of his first eight seasons. While his foot has been a concern the past two years, George has never missed a game in his entire career.
The former Heisman Trophy winner (1995) out of Ohio State, George has earned four trips to the Pro Bowl, but none since 2000.
George averaged just 3.3 yards per carry last year, the second-lowest average of his career (3.0 yards in 2001). His longest rush from scrimmage was only 27 yards.
But despite his numbers being on the decline, the Cowboys, especially with Bill Parcells in charge, might be a good spot for George to land. Parcells has a history of squeezing life out of aging backs, as he did with Ottis Anderson, who joined the Giants when he turned 29 back in 1986. While Anderson was more of a role player for his first two years with the club, Anderson rushed for nearly 2,000 yards and had 33 rushing touchdowns in a three-year span, including 1,023 yards and a career-high 14 touchdowns in 1989 at the ripe age of 32.
Parcells also milked production out of Keith Byars with both the Patriots and Jets in the mid-1990's. Byars played two seasons in New England and then finished his career with the Jets at age 35. That season he caught 26 passes as a third-down back and scored three touchdowns.
And before the Cowboys signed George, don't forget Parcells was willing to let the 32-year-old Anderson get a few more carries.
So signing George makes sense for the Cowboys, who have plenty of salary-cap room available. Also, they have the need to add another back.
Especially one with more than 10,000 career rushing yards on his resume
I know you Eagles fans are probably pretty pissed off about this. WIP seemed to think that there was a chance in hell of Andy the Dandy getting him into the teal hat, but alas, there is a star on his helmet now. sux for u.
How 'bout them Cowboys!?
The Cowboys suck decomposing mule wangers.
The Redskins are gonna put a stop to their BS very quickly.
Eddie is completely played out. It is a shame. He was a great back and the Cowboys suck. :biggrin:
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Yeah, sure, beestie.
The Washington NFL team and the Dallas Cowboys lick the sweat off dead men's balls.
That is all.
Eddie George is a bum. Always was, but now the guy has no soul. Just how did the Cowboys get to be "America's Team"? Who did they ask? I don't remember any poll or vote. Did they come up with that based on sales of the cheerleader posters? How come everybody I know who likes the Cowboys wears L.L. Bean and brings weird cheeses to football parties?
ah, the dallas cowboys... "sure we are hoodlums and addicts, we unceremoniously fired our legendary coach without telling him first, we wanted to get rid of smith a long time ago, but wanted another record on the walls... but we have a cool star and we are America's Team. Just ask us."
Did they come up with that based on sales of the cheerleader posters?
their cheerleaders spent an evening at the bar i worked at... they are the dumbest souls breathing. i am not shitting you that the same 2 girls asked where the bathroom was on 3 separate occasions. they sat there drinking their foofoo drinks and giggling with the most vacuous stares i have ever seen.
year in, year out, the cowboys merch represents 25% or more of all NFL apparrel sales.
america's team was a shrewd marketing ploy by Tex Schramm.
their cheerleaders spent an evening at the bar i worked at... they are the dumbest souls breathing. i am not shitting you that the same 2 girls asked where the bathroom was on 3 separate occasions. they sat there drinking their foofoo drinks and giggling with the most vacuous stares i have ever seen.
you say that like it's a bad thing.
year in, year out, the cowboys merch represents 25% or more of all NFL apparrel sales.
america's team was a shrewd marketing ploy by Tex Schramm.
big business bastards. :D
you say that like it's a bad thing.
dumb beaaatches tipped for crap and ran out all of my regular crowd. and to top it off - none of them wanted to go home with me. [SIZE=4]stupid stuck up [/SIZE] [SIZE=3]bleach blond[/SIZE] [SIZE=2]no putting out[/SIZE] [SIZE=1]texas bitches...[/SIZE]
uh huh. i suspected as much
I heard Oakland was #1 in merchandising last year.
I heard Oakland was #1 in merchandising last year.
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Is Eddie George the guy who's from Norristown?
I heard Oakland was #1 in merchandising last year.
~note to self:
don't be such a dumbass.
Look, I don't want to bust balls here, but pleeeaaaase-ah! Don't get the impression that I hate the Cowboys because I'm an Eagles fan. My Wife is NE Philly bred, and my father raised me to respect the game, so gimme the 9'ers (LSMFT, b. Oakland, Ca) or the Raiders. I'm a season ticket holder to the Eagles only because my Wife insists. I just hate the Cowboys and I hate their stupid cheerleaders too.
you hate them because you fear them
;)
you hate them because you fear them
;)
isn't a sign of wisdom to fear hardened criminals?
The best team in the NFC is the Dallas Cowboys
34 points (and counting) against the best D in the league. Or are they? The Cowboys Offensive line did one hell of a job against the Bears. Romo is a total stud. TO, Witten, Barber.
It should be 41 to 10, but Crayton rubber bellied a touchdown and the field goal got blocked.
The dallas D comported themselves very well tonight, too.
TO
Oh yeah, he's the
Cowboys' problem now. muahahahahaha
I don't know if he's really a problem, just get him the ball and ignore his mouth.
The Dallas Cowboys and their fans are all assholes.
Like consensus, I loathe the cowboys.
I don't know how Romo got away from Tommy Harris, he is so freakin' agile.
But they raped my Bears.
Tears.
The Dallas Cowboys and their fans are all assholes.
your mama
I don't know if he's really a problem, just get him the ball and ignore his mouth.
But he failed to genuflect to the 2nd best Back in pro football.
The Cowboys are 4-0. You know what happened last time they wet 4-0?
They went to Disneyland!
The Cowboys are 4-0. You know what happened last time they wet 4-0?
They went to Disneyland!
Didn't the get in trouble cuz half the team was trying to snort up the matterhorn?
no.
Tony Romo Highlights:
clickyLatest update on the Cowboys=They suck.
Just wait until they play a real team like the Redskins.
Any day the Cowboys lose is a good day.
romo=lotto? pick 4.
4 picks in the first half. ouch.
oh, nevermind, there's #5. i started to feel bad for Romo until i remembered he chose to be a cowboy.
and yet, they won.
God is a Cowboys fan.
or enough cowboys fans sold their souls to satan last night. one or the other.
Nah, just set up to be Patriots' meat.
start your own threads.....
i like the colts. 2nd favorite team. would loooove to see a colts cowboys super bowl.
start your own threads.....
If you start railing against the Baby Jesus, I'm calling shenanigans.
this just in:
the Cowboys are MUCH better than the Eagles.
MUCH better.
this reporter is not surprised.
boy, there's not even enough people left in the stands for a good Boo
All right, brag all you want about the Cowboys beating the Giants. But the Boys still have to play the NFC Championship in Green Bay, if they go that far.
this just in:
the Cowboys are MUCH better than the Eagles.
MUCH better.
this reporter is not surprised.
Have I mentioned that every stinkin' cowboy and every stinkin' cowboys fan is an asshole? No? Every stinkin' cowboy and every stinkin' cowboys fan is an asshole. And it has nothing to do with how well they play.
Have you met all of the cowboys fans, buttmunch?
you're just bitter (shocker there) because the Iggles missed their window and it will be another 30 years before they get that close again.
Suxx to be you in yet another way.
All right, brag all you want about the Cowboys beating the Giants. But the Boys still have to play the NFC Championship in Green Bay, if they go that far.
well.....we play on the 29th of this month ya know...
Dallas has always owned Green Bay. It will be like a formal changing of the guard. Brett will see himself of 10 years ago scampering all over the field... and it will be a fitting end to his career. Not only do I guarantee a Cowboys win....I will go as far as saying that it will be the game that breaks the spirit of the Packers and that they will be eliminated in the first round of the playoffs by teh inferior Saints. word...to your mama.
Have you met all of the cowboys fans, buttmunch?
you're just bitter (shocker there) because the Iggles missed their window and it will be another 30 years before they get that close again.
Suxx to be you in yet another way.
Taking yourself a little too seriously?
yes, of course. as usual. buttsniffer.
scary win.....but a win nonetheless. half way to sweeping the skins and winning $25 of whip's money for the tip mug!
i know you'll all be pulling for the cowboys next time these teams meet.
Originally Posted by lumberjim View Post
wanna bet?
Yus!
If the Redskins win them both, I win.
If the Cowboys win them both, you win.
If they split, we're even.
Now lets discuss what were putting on the table
$25 to the tip jar?
I'm not sure what the tip jar is, but if you mean to this site, I'm game.
i know you'll all be pulling for the cowboys next time these teams meet.
And when is that, for those of us too lazy to look it up?
jets @ cowboys.
Dallas is 10-1 for the first time since......evarrrrr!!!
BIG [SIZE="4"]BIG [/SIZE][SIZE="6"]BIG[/SIZE] game tonight!
two 10 and 1 teams collide! Thursday! [SIZE="4"]Thursday![/SIZE] [SIZE="6"]Thursday![/SIZE]
on NFL network? like what....50% of the country actually gets it? I get it, thank FSM. Spencer has it set to record for me on the DVR.
here's a previewI got NFL Network, Neener Neener Neener. The Dallas criminals are ahead by 3, poo doo.
It is more satisfying to lump up another good team than it is to trounce a pushover.
want some
popcorn?
a
scary ugly way to get to 12-1.
i like it.
i was looking for my broom today...
...and then i realized.....the cowboys must have borrowed it
.....gonna sweep the eagles tomorrow and all....
could you guys knock McNabb into next year so we can see if this kid is any good?
You could always use the excuse that they were resting.
..........but no, it didn't look like that now did it?
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in Dallas with T.O.... shame shame.
My next post in this thread will be after week 17.
Then the post after that, will be after the playoff game between the Cowboys and the Redskins
I honestly feel bad for ya LJ. Gotta suck to lose to this eagles team. Then again, maybe it was a wake up call to win the next 5 in a row.
this just in:
the Cowboys are MUCH better than the Eagles.
MUCH better.
this reporter is not surprised.
Maybe, maybe not.
Couple news snippets:
"As bad as it sounds for Dallas (12-2), the Cowboys knew before kickoff they’d secured a first-round bye — and that they couldn’t lock up home-field advantage throughout the playoffs. So the stakes were pretty low. And they played like it."
“We came out flat. We just couldn’t get anything going offensively,” Owens said. “Maybe this is good for us — a gut-check.”
"The Cowboys lost both Pro Bowl center Andre Gurode and starting defensive end Chris Canty to left knee injuries during the third quarter..."
Couple news snippets:
"As bad as it sounds for Dallas (12-2), the Cowboys knew before kickoff they’d secured a first-round bye — and that they couldn’t lock up home-field advantage throughout the playoffs. So the stakes were pretty low. And they played like it."
"The Cowboys lost both Pro Bowl center Andre Gurode and starting defensive end Chris Canty to left knee injuries during the third quarter..."
So, one could say that the Cowboys have a coaching problem.
Health is the #1 priority when a team is already with 2 feet in the playoffs.
In fact, nobody rested from the Cowboys last night.
In San Diego, they began resting their stars after the first quarter.
Ladanian played the first quarter. Gates came in for one play.
Thats kinda funny, cause i've been told, after giving the Charges as a superbowl team that they don't stand a chance because of coaching.
From what i've been seeing, looks like the Chargers know their priorities better than the Brokeback mountain boys.
Hell, if the Cowboys keep this up, they won't have anyone left to play after the week 17 game with the superbowl Redskins
you're high.
but, i will say that for the first time this year, jason garrett called a poor offense. they abandoned the run altogether in the 4th quarter. they got the ball with 7 minutes left, and could have just ran it down the eagles throats with Barber.....but they kept passing on first down...taking sacks, etc. trust me...i've been playing madden long enough to know this kind of thing.
Whip, it may be that Dallas is just fodder for one of the supreme teams from the AFC, but they are far better than any other shitty team in the NFC. I know that isn't sayin much, but they can only be compared to what there is in their division.
you're high.
Now how the hell did you know that :rolleyes:
but, i will say that for the first time this year, jason garrett called a poor offense. they abandoned the run altogether in the 4th quarter. they got the ball with 7 minutes left, and could have just ran it down the eagles throats with Barber.....but they kept passing on first down...taking sacks, etc. trust me...i've been playing madden long enough to know this kind of thing.
It shows you how vulnerable this cowboys team can be.
It only takes one game to get kicked out of the playoffs.
The superbowl is yet to be reached.
Could you imagine Romo's episode against the Seahawks last year repeat itself?
So yeah, the NFC is open, and given the fact that the Packers are far from being contenders, it could be a wild card that makes it.
I must say, as much as Aikman was a hated rival all those years, he does fine work in the broadcast booth, and so does that Daryl Johnston.
and if anything, Aikman is tough on the 'boys. I wonder if he's a fan, and is just being careful not to seem biased...or if he has a little jealousy going on....
the cowboys eeked out
win against the Panthers....bringing them to 13-2. The Packers
dumped one against the Bears....yay.....which gives the Cowboys home field advantage throughout the playoffs
... and a chance to rest a few players, most notably T.O.
that's a good point....
WHIP and I have a bet that will be impacted by this situation. The Skins NEED to win to get in.....and the cowboys are in as good as they're gonna be....so, all the motivation is on the skins' side...Phillips will prolly rest Romo and Barber...definitely TO.....No reason to bring Glenn back yet.....It will be the JV team out there....oh well....a bet is a bet....maybe the rivalry will be enough ...or the second stringers trying out for future position.......
that's a good point....
WHIP and I have a bet that will be impacted by this situation. The Skins NEED to win to get in.....and the cowboys are in as good as they're gonna be....so, all the motivation is on the skins' side...Phillips will prolly rest Romo and Barber...definitely TO.....No reason to bring Glenn back yet.....It will be the JV team out there....oh well....a bet is a bet....maybe the rivalry will be enough ...or the second stringers trying out for future position.......
I'm not known to lose many bets of this nature.
It is certainly no suprise of mine that 3 teams from the same division are progressing as I have named it the best league in the NFL.
I've also called the Redskins success this year since the season started, I actually began talking about the Redskins 2007-2008 season since last years playoff time.
Just imagine if the superstar safety was still around!
The bet? It was over before it started.
Washington has a better team than Dallas, and should they meet on the road to this years superbowl as they are clearly the two best teams in the NFC, my money again will be on the Redskins, I hope you will accept that bet for the same purpose and amount when the time comes.
The Skins NEED to win to get in.
Thats not actually true.
The Skins are in 100% if they win.
If they lose it would be a 4/1 shot for them to get in based on the results of other games.
Ha ha! The Giants got the Boys right where they want them.
Yeah right at Texas stadium. :headshake
Then again it is tough to beat a division rival 3 times in one season.
Now what? Now what!! Go Giants!
yeah...i feel worse for my boy. he was REALLY bummed. a valuable lesson, i guess. he told me tearfully that he hopes the giants make the super bowl and get crushed 72-3 by the patriots.
LOL - the Pats are my AFC team since I was born up there and all, but my son is a huge Colts fan so I had to temper my enthusiasm.
It was funny the first couple of times, but enough with TO crying like a little baby on TV.
Oh, ok...maybe one more time...heh heh heh
yeah...i feel worse for my boy. he was REALLY bummed. a valuable lesson, i guess. he told me tearfully that he hopes the giants make the super bowl and get crushed 72-3 by the patriots.
Tell him, he should hope that the Giants win the superbowl so he can say that the Cowboys lost against the superbowl champs.
That way the Cowboys won't look as bad as they actually are. ;p
It was so comical to see the 'Boys fold up like that during the game. Romo should not have taken that romantic fling with Jess Simpson that time, but should have spent that time getting good and ready for that very important game. The sex can wait...the football is NOW!
Like TO said, "Leave Tony alone!!"
Hey mods change the title of this thread to The Giants Update Thread, haa haa!!
I liked the 'Boys but they really need to get back on their game like they did in the early '90s. The Pats now look like a better bet.
In case I am not able to gloat from OBX.....
the eagles suck.
go cowboys.
oh...and...uh.....
the eagles suck.
yeah....cuz Jessica Simpson is a guy in drag, obviously.
no not at all - its a she-debble
I do believe that her left hooter is about to fall out. Where is the follow on pic?
That nipple isn't blurred very effectively.
what a half of football......
54 points scored.......jesus. It's like watching a highlight reel.
Holy crap, what a game! I can't take it. Hope you all bet the over
I'm trying to remember a better game......for me....but I'm struggling. Maybe the Championship against the Niners in 92.......
but week 2? wow. good game, iggles....i can't honestly say they suck....but they are teh suxor.
WTF happened??
I missed it. Did someone get hurt or was this a typical Redskins/Cowboys battle?
Its pretty simple... The Redskins are a better team!
They clearly outplayed the Cowboys.
they definitely scored more points.
What kinda fucking highlights are those LJ???
Now these are the highlights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUnCfjNsDsMtimes like these make me regret having forsworn rickrolling
the cowboys are butt-hurt
with Brad Johnson the starter in the last three, the Cowboys have lost their mobility in the pocket, their rocket arm and their mojo.
the mojo is the biggest problem
Cowboys are in a big hurt. I can't say that I am completely unhappy about that.
Their team has no substance. They built their team around two players and this is what they deserved.
Their team has no substance. They built their team around two players and this is what they deserved.
that's incorrect. they have a massive O line, and sent 13? players to the pro bowl last year.
they will be back and stronger than ever the second half of the season....starting with the Foreskins. This Sunday night the Cowboys will take Washington's hearts and rape their mammas
I'm just hoping Green Bay will make a rebound the second half of the season. Rodgers isn't the problem, it's our defensive backs.
they will be back and stronger than ever the second half of the season.
the cowboys are a good team, although they do lack on the defencive side
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This Sunday night the Cowboys will take Washington's hearts and rape their mammas
the only chance of the cowboys having a chance at winning this game is if clinton portis isn't in the game..... but even then, they'll have to earn it.
it sounds like you have a lot of anger lj.
this anger towards the redskins that you have either comes from week 4 when the redskins straight up beat the cowboys
in dallas, with romo at qb.
or..............................................
you've come to reality, and now know that there are at least 2 teams in dallas's division that are superior to the cowboys.
Dallas at Washington tonight.
Dallas by 1.5 points? I don't think so...
Dallas at Washington tonight.
Dallas by 1.5 points? I don't think so...
The reason why they have the Cowboys at -2.5 is cause Romo is back for Dallas, and Washington's league leading running back Clinton Portis is out.
Overall, the Redskins are still superior and will win the game, hammering the final nail in the Cowboys coffin for this season!
The Cowgirls are advised to prepare for an unholy asswhoopin' of Biblical proportion.
The reason why they have the Cowboys at -2.5 is cause Romo is back for Dallas, and Washington's league leading running back Clinton Portis is out.
Overall, the Redskins are still superior and will win the game, hammering the final nail in the Cowboys coffin for this season!
and then you'll skip through the forest of lolipops and moonbeams and gumdrops with the unicorns and forest dryads......
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Dude! Don't say that to Beestie!
Dude! Don't say that to Beestie!
I've heard worse.
From better.
:p
And another thing. I need a new user title. Now, hmmmm... where did that thread go?
One good thing about Dallas... :D
i see at least three good things thar.
this just in:
14-10 Cowboys.
And their defense came up HUGE.
I'm ready for your apology, WHiP
apology, WHiP
your apology is accepted, but don't let it happen again :rolleyes:
make sure you tune in for
this one. should be a barn burner. there are not many better cross conference rivalries out there.
ps...Eff the steelers.
make sure you tune in for this one. should be a barn burner. there are not many better cross conference rivalries out there.
ps...All Hail! the steelers.
fix ed ;)
whats the difference between the dallas cowboys and the detroit lions?
not much.... although the lions will get a better draft pick.
someone should delete this thread and make a lions thread, it would be a better read.
some one should delete your face.
we could change the name 'the team that has a better record than the redskins update thread' though.....
some one should delete your face.
we could change the name 'the team that has a better record than the redskins update thread' though.....
are we forgeting that the cowboys at the start of the season were the favorites to win the superbowl, where the redskins were favorites to finish in last place in the division.
its like the brazilian soccer team laughing at malta for having less wins.
you can't win an argument on the cowboys this season, or the season before, or even the one before that.
the only thing dallas really has going for them is the stadium being created for next season.
i'm pretty sure you assured us that the redskins were the cream of the crop. they do seem to be in last place at present though.
as i assured you that the rays were the cream of the crop in baseball this season.
hey, the redskins are still in the hunt, i'm providing you with large prices.
i'm also making you avoid the small priced favorites, chargers, cowboys, patriots, vikings jets etc
your welcome....
hey lj, its not my fault that your team sucks
they will win the superbowl before the foreskins
My Eagles are kicking the shit out of your broke back mountain boys.
The Detroit Lions had a greater year than the Cowboys.... neither team made the play-offs, but the Lions get the #1 draft pick.
LJ, change teams and save yourself from more grief.
Everybody sing now!
Pac Man Fever!
- (Pac Man Fever!)
It's driving me cra-zee!
- (Driving me cra-zee!)
Great - another year of "Big Red & his buddy" Maybe they'll catch fire and win a playoff game... Oh thats right they're from Philly... nevermind.
My Eagles are kicking the shit out of your broke back mountain boys.
The Detroit Lions had a greater year than the Cowboys.... neither team made the play-offs, but the Lions get the #1 draft pick.
LJ, change teams and save yourself from more grief.
oh my god, you are such a tool. now you're an eagles fan again.... I guess you've been saying it all year long, right? not the redskins ....it was the eagles that were the superior team all along. and you're fucking canadian. they are not YOUR eagles. do i sound bitter? well i am. i'm loyal to the team i like.....you're a frontrunner. oh and then there's
thislj, I respect your loyalty. There are a lot of fans that don't have that. I'm loyal to my team and I call them out when they suck. Hell I even wanted them to tank the season so they could get rid of Andy and do something good with the first round picks this time.
I've got Pac Man fever!
Pac Man fever!
I'm going out of my mind!
Going out of my mind!
I've got Pac Man fever!
Pac Man fever!
I'm going out of my mind!
Going out of my mind!
In order to save myself quite a bit of typing, may I direct your attention
here.
LJ.... i've been an Eagles fan since I was 4 years old. Anyone who's been reading this thread the past couple years could tell you that.
This is a betting thread though, and given the tough division, i figured that it would be tough for my team to make the play-offs.... suprise suprise here we are!!!!
Gooooooo Eagles!!!!!!
Aha, so that's why you like me so much. ;)
This is a betting thread though,
I think you are referring to
this threadAha, so that's why you like me so much. ;)
thats part of it yes. hrmmm, i bet you wonder what the other part is. :rolleyes:
yes classicman, my mistake, this here is a thread that should have never been created :p
lj, just ask undertoad, we've been having eagles talk, for like... ever
W.HI.P - You do realize that lj has been here since '03 right?
W.HI.P - You do realize that lj has been here since '03 right?
lj has been accusing me of being a cowboys hater.
i've been tryna tell him that the pre-season favorite to win the superbowl cowboys suck.
i've gone into detail as to why the team sucks.
its not hate, although i did enjoy the fact that it was my team that hammered the final nail into the cowboys coffin.
lj's got the whole prediction thing mixed up with the teams that i support.
he probably thinks i'm a tampa bay rays fan or a boston celtics fan as well just cause i predicted their success this year.
some of the heavier bets of my life have been against the team that i support.
i don't think cheering and betting should go hand in hand.
as far as the nfl play-offs are concerned, the steelers season is over.
the titans are overall a mediocre team.
the titans defence after closely examining it, is actualy under par despite the numbers.
the superbowl team from the afc will come out of these 2 wildcard games chargers-colts and ravens-dolphins.
the nfc could also be the same as carolina is kind of mediocre.
the giants are capable, its hard to repeat though.. the key for the giants will be jacobs.
I got Pac Man Fever!
Pac Man Fever!
It's driving me crazy!
Driving me crazy!
Cowboys release troubled "Pacman"The only thing Pacman is packin' are his bags. What a doofus.
About one more felony and he's getting something else packed...
"Today was a great start. That was the best first day of the off-season we've ever been through. It's exciting for the coaches and exciting for me as well," Romo said. "When you get out there, see the guys every day and you're working and you're doing different technical things to try to improve as each individual, it's nice to get out there and see if it's going to work, see if the guys are going to come in ready to go."
the cowboys are weker this season than they were last season.
apart from romo, the only positive thing about this years cowboys is their new stadium.... lj, just giving you the heads up ;)
your mom is weak.
just letting you know.
Oh look, their D gave me 2 FF points today. WEAK!
pipe down thar, lass.
men are talking
Tony Homo looked A LOT better than McNabb did. :vomit:
and yes I think I threw up a little in my mouth just saying it.
Yeah, but your defense was gellin'
I don't know if it's an indication of how horrible the panthers Offense is, or if the Eagles Defense just had an inspired day for Jim Johnson.....but dayum.
This should be a very interesting season. I've heard both Shannon Sharp and Michael Irvin predict the Cowboys in the SUperbowl...and Mike Golic puts the Iggles there.
and don't forget the goddamned Giants. At least the Foreskins are no threat. right, Whip?
your cowboys allowed a mediocre bucs attack just under 500 yards, don't start talking about the superbowl again this year.
as i said, all you have is homo and a stadium... give it a few years lj.
i've already given my picks for this season with some very high prices.
from the nfc, you gotta like the way the falcons looked.
as far as my eagles... unlike you lj, i don't allow my heart to blind me away from the reality regarding my team.
the east is the toughest division in the nfl
Wait. I thought you were a Redskins Fan?
i think i was 3 when i became an eagles fan.
the redskins are simply a very high paying capable team i bet on this year
I've got $0 on the Eagles winning the superbowl, nfc, and nfc east.
We are far from being frontrunners.
we're better than your cowboys, but still don't stand much of a chance
He's always been an Eagles fan LJ. I remember that much :/
These Cowboys, they are still sucking.
turn overs on consecutive plays makes me uncomfortable
Please do something about your team, I need a miracle here.
you need 38 points out of the cowboys' D.
it aint gonna happen. what do you think this is.....eagles/panthers?
Cowboys are back in it. Will it be enough for the Bullies though? I think my lunch money is safe.
Jacobs needs to get his hands on the ball more. I'd feel better.
I need Barber and Witten to step it up here...
There's some freaky shit going on in this game...
3 turnovers in the first half.....fuckshitdamnpisshell.
sometimes, when a ball bounces off the foot of your receiver, and snuggles itself into the open hand of the defender...and then that kind of juggling catch crap in the end zone happens..... you're just like....dude.... what the everliving fuck.
What's pissing me off is that we're playing ESPN fantasy football here at the home, and I've got the Giants as my defense...but so far I'm only getting credit for one int, no return for TD, and no fumble recovery. I'm fairly upset about this.
what's pissing me off is that the Cowboys should be blowing the Giants out, but this game is apparently rigged by God. He must have money on this one.
Did He have a say in the 29-yard field goal miss?
Although I will say this, if God made Romo, then God made Romo suck.
sometimes, when a ball bounces off the foot of your receiver, and snuggles itself into the open hand of the defender...and then that kind of juggling catch crap in the end zone happens..... you're just like....dude.... what the everliving fuck.
Your pain is lyrical.
33-31 not the way to open up the new stadium ... meh - its only one game against a divisional rival with playoff implications... They'll be fine. At lest they looked better in their loss than, say the Eagles. Then again they looked better than the Redskins in their win too.
I thought they looked better than the Giants.....but you cannot give it away like that and expect to win a game.
yup - and a loss is a loss, is a loss. I have little hope for my team this year - best I can do is root against yours :rolleyes:
an ugly win this week....but the W will look like all the rest at the end of the season.
.....when we're in the playoffs.
Gah! My Steelers are looking like they'll be staying home.
It pains me to say it, but Romo blew this one. If they had just stuck with the run in the 2nd half......
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O Miles Austin...don't really know you yet, but I'm loving you already :blush:
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[SIZE="1"]Cowboys D still is sucking big time[/SIZE]
it couldn't be worse.
actually, it will be worse after they face ryan and turner this weekend.
its sad.
tune to the NFL network.
they are replaying the game where Emmit took the rushing total record. ....at least thats what i recall them saying.....
cowboys v falcons
wow...i must have mis heard. Deon Sanders is still on the Falcons..and Steve Beurline is the QB....
this is an early game in the cowboys dynasty of the 90s
must be 1991 game 16 when emmit took the rushing title.
Week 17
Dec 22 W 31-27 vs
Atlanta FalconsMiles Austin is the man--I hope they keep him on.
He took Crayton's starting slot. He's the real deal. I think they should dump Roy Williams off for a coupe draft picks, and put Miles and Pat Crayton in a s starters. I'd like to see them grab a guy like DeShawn Jackson from the Iggles or Percy Harvin from the Vikings to work the slot. Imagine....Barber and Felix in the backfield.....Witten at tight end.... Austin, Crayton and Jackson as Wide outs.....Romo slinging the piggie.....all we're missing is a marquis fullback.....
it's really not that far fetched, fletch.
lj, i got a little wager for you next weeks clash between out teams.
phillie vs broke back mountain boys.
no money, but high stakes
you up for it :question:
if the eagles win, you can't post in the sports section of the cellar, until this seasons nfl play-offs.
if the cowboys win, i don't get to post in the sports section of the cellar, until this seasons nfl play-offs.
what say you dear mam?
won't work. I have the football pool to do. Also, if you're not posting your betting tips, I can't mock you when you're wrong. sounds like a lose-lose for me.
what else ya got?
you can start mocking me when the balance of my thread is in the negative.
it'll take a couple years, but it may take place.
if you recall 2 seasons ago, around this time, i was about 28 grand in the hole...it ended being my most profitable nfl season of all time.
so don't be holding your breath there.
if there's been anything between us, its been about your silly cowboys.
if you back track, you'll see that you're the one that got mocked there.
i was just trying be nice to you, informing you how shitty how team was....and well, they proved me right now didn't they?
so what about this clash of ours?
you wanna wager or what?
you got any ideas?
I got an idea
STFU
:bolt:
you gotta be polite about that shit.
its pls stfu k thx btch
Oh sorry. :blush:
Hey, you know those guys who talk about all the sex they're having, yet there's no evidence that they even know any women? We all know that guy isn't having sex, don't we?
Well, given your stats here, I think you might be the same guy, only the sex is the piles of money you're making.
Just sayin'
instead of assuming, why don't you just back track, put a buck on each bet, put 10 on each long term bet, and you'll get a net.
if that net is minus, you can add a couple zero's on it, and you'll have the amount that i've lost.
if it comes up positive, well than you can add a couple zero's on it, and you'll find my actual net over the past 3 years.
till then, zip it
I bet you're not getting any sex either
No, you show me that work...spell it out here for us, will you? I have a couple jobs which preclude an in-depth study into the genius that is WHIP. You seem to have it all right in front of you: I'm not doing the work. All I have to do is say "I don't believe you." And I don't. You can SAY it all you want. Prove it. The burden of proof is on you, my friend.
Until then, zip it.
ps You have, time after time, told others to go back to the beginning of time and figure out how much you've made/lost. Why, if you're so sure, don't you actually show us? Post by post. Shouldn't be a problem. It IS your job, after all.
Until then, zip it, you liar. Yep, I said it. L-I-A-R!
Shit, now I'll probably have a hit put out on me or something. Rats.
yebbut, look who'll be planning it, you'll be safe
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cowboys v eagles.....
started out looking like dallas was gonna kick them around all night....but just now i'm getting worried....
eagles are moving the ball......
no worries - you can come out no and crow - - - the boys won as I knew they would. An experienced Eagles fan can feel games like this.
The chick I'm banging now makes Jessica Simpson look like Ed Asner. count on it. and she's NOT famous.
She will be when you dump her, and she sues you.:p
I like what I see so far. The boys look rather sharp tonight.
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the saints are no longer undefeated.
hah!
whining/The Saints looked like crap - it was a gift/birdsfan
Honestly the boys took the saints off-guard and kept them off balance the entire time. They looked pretty good.
Hellllllllllllllo playoffs.
i know it's not official yet...but at 17-0 half way thru the 4th...I'm calling this a victory.
This means that next week's game vs the h8ted Iggles will determine the NFC East Champ.
I knew it would be a meaningful game. They say Westbrook will be back for it. I hate that little prick. He took a knee on the goal line 2 years ago ( as I was trimming my christmas tree.....ruining my entire day, and making my children cry) and effectively eliminated the cowboys from the playoffs. I will never forgive him. It was a brilliant, unbelievable heads up play....and unless he signs with Us....I wish ASS CANCER upon him and his entire extended Family.
ANYWAY.
playoffs. Whip! tell me again how bad this cowboys defence is again?
ya mook
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I am not surprised at all...Redskins looked all depressed right after the first touchdown.
However, Westbrook is awesome, and the Eagles WILL kick lotso Cowass!
lj, when i say the things i do, i don't say them because i'm a fan of one team, and dislike another.
its about reality.
now let me offer you a little reality check.
first of all, you we're playing against against a redskins team, which has invested
all of their draft picks of value, in their defence.... they've been doing this for quite some time..
and they've had some amazing picks.
to achieve this, they've neglected their attack, which was based on clinton portis.....................
the redskins need to replace clinton portis, and they're aiming very very high in the draft.
they're looking to pick up stanford's running back Toby Gerhart, who is a very powerful runner, with endless stamina.... but they're gonna need to draft pretty high to get him, making them desperate to lose against your cowboys.
let me give you some more reality about your cowboys.
your dallas cowboys are superior to the vikings, the saints, and arizona.
[COLOR="Green"]my money[/COLOR], despite being a hard-core eagles fan,
[COLOR="Green"]will be on the dallas cowboys[/COLOR] this weekend.
[COLOR="Red"]for my friend, who might be asking wtf i'm talking about...
remember before the season, when we talked about this cowboys stadium? ...this game is what its all about....free money dude[/COLOR]
so lj, be happy while it lasts, cause the cowboys will be humiliated at a later date.
. . . bummer - sorry Jim.
Maybe next year.
totally.
the Viking's Defense was ferocious. Romo was rattled after about half way through the 2nd quarter, and never once took a shot down field. He was too busy running for his life.
Hats off to the Vikes D...the players and the play caller.... they won this game. excellent job attacking and upsetting the Cowboys' rhythm, and great tackling by all positions.
Was hopin' for the cowboys myself. Oh well...
the new # 88
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Dez Bryant
Didn't want to create another thread so this doesn't have anything to do with the Cowboys so I apologize...
However I'm courious to hear from forum member "W.H.I.P." about the Green Bay Packers this season.....
W.H.I.P. do you think that the Packers can go undefeated this year? Is there any team that can possibly "beat" them?
I initially thought "They'll lose a game" Then I looked at their schedule.
Wow what a joke. Barring any major injuries, they could and probably should run the table.
The Dallas Cowboys are finally worthy of me mentioning them.
I've been an Eagles fan for the past 34 years, so it hurts me to say this.
The Cowboys are gonna win the NFC East.
They're gonna do it very easily, as there is no true competition.
My Eagles are well under par. (Said that prior to the season starting)
The Giants Defense is so weak, it doesn't matter how good Eli can be, the Giants are gonna lose!
The Redskins Defense is truly elite, but the attack is so weak, they are not worthy of mentioning.
The Dallas Cowboys on the other hand, have a good Defense, and a very good passing game.
Dez Bryant was a HUGE pick-up.
Austin is reliable, and Witten is about as good as a tight end can get.
So yeah, Tony's got some amazing weapons.
As long as he gets to keep them, it won't really matter how many times he screws up, the Cowboys are gonna win.
LJ, I told you i'd be the first to tell you when your team is good, so here i am!
Didn't want to create another thread so this doesn't have anything to do with the Cowboys so I apologize...
However I'm courious to hear from forum member "W.H.I.P." about the Green Bay Packers this season.....
W.H.I.P. do you think that the Packers can go undefeated this year? Is there any team that can possibly "beat" them?
The
[COLOR="Red"]Packers[/COLOR] aren't winning the Superbowl this season.
It doesn't matter how many wins they get during the regular season.
This is sport is run by gambling money.
Impression ALWAYS misguides the money.
Never buy what they're selling.
If I had to chose 1 team to win the Superbowl this year, it would have to be the
[COLOR="Green"]Houston Texans[/COLOR].
As a gambling man, i like to take some long shots, so i don't just have to bet on the Texans.
I can cover with some wild card potential teams at huge prices.
I can tell you where my money is not:
[COLOR="Red"]Green bay Packers
New England Patriots
New Orleans Saints
San Diego Chargers[/COLOR]
These are the teams that are being sold, and therefore, have no chance at winning the Superbowl.
it is good to see some things don't change
Threadjack/
"He's the last one in the building, he's the first one gone, late for meetings, late for practice," "They just basically have thrown up their hands and
said, 'We need to move on because that's not what we need in a quarterback."
Wow, the Vikings learned this in just 6 games - what took Andy 12 YEARS?
speaking of the Eagles Whip, any thoughts on this from the Vikings?
/end threadjack
A change from old to young is a good thing.
It is the proper way to run a team.
The mistake was picking him up in the first place.
The Vikings need to draft high and close up some of the holes they have on both sides of the ball, especially their secondary in D.
If they do this, they should be competing by the 2013-2014 season.
agreed regarding the vikings, but ....
was McNabb always like that? I don't recall ever hearing that from anyone associated with the Eagles, even after he left.
No, McNabb was originally known for his hard work, drills in offseason, etc.
thats what I thought as well. I wonder what changed or when ...
thats what I thought as well. I wonder what changed or when ...
What UT said is accurate.
McNabb played some amazing football while in Philadelphia.
I recall a moment in his career where things changed.
I was watching the game.
He got sick on the field just before the snap (Happened more than once).
He was never the same again.
From that moment on, he never really came to 100% health.
The time comes in a career where you lower the gear.
You play it out and collect some cash on your way and then retire.
When a player is in this mode, it is best for the franchise for you to go elsewhere.
I am so upset that the organization didn't sacrifice last year in order to pick up Cam Newton.
Philadelphia's attack is groomed around Micheal Vick.
There is no comparing the 2 Quarter backs.
If Newton was in Phillie, we'd be looking at the Superbowl straight in the face right about now.
Huge huge mistake for the Eagles not going after this guy.
The Dallas Cowboys are finally worthy of me mentioning them.
I've been an Eagles fan for the past 34 years, so it hurts me to say this.
The Cowboys are gonna win the NFC East.
They're gonna do it very easily, as there is no true competition.
My Eagles are well under par. (Said that prior to the season starting)
The Giants Defense is so weak, it doesn't matter how good Eli can be, the Giants are gonna lose!
The Redskins Defense is truly elite, but the attack is so weak, they are not worthy of mentioning.
The Dallas Cowboys on the other hand, have a good Defense, and a very good passing game.
Dez Bryant was a HUGE pick-up.
Austin is reliable, and Witten is about as good as a tight end can get.
So yeah, Tony's got some amazing weapons.
As long as he gets to keep them, it won't really matter how many times he screws up, the Cowboys are gonna win.
LJ, I told you i'd be the first to tell you when your team is good, so here i am!
Is LJ still around?
McNabb had about 4 in-game yacks, some of them during his prime. He took the game very seriously.
Oh LJ went through a name change. He's still here.
McNabb had about 4 in-game yacks, some of them during his prime. He took the game very seriously.
Yes he did... I was taking about that one game 2-3 years ago, mid-season, when Garcia made his first string of games in his place, he's never played a whole game in form since....not a complete game anyways.
I am he
Your team is for real.
Dallas should finish 10-6 or 11-5 this season.
The only teams i see that could stand in your way to playing in the Superbowl is Atlanta or San Fransisco.
If it comes to playing one of those two, Your team will have a legitimate shot at winning.
The division is the key bet though right now, as i can't see how your team can lose it.
Even if you lose Sunday night against my Eagles, you'll still win it.
The division win pays
[COLOR="Green"]3.25[/COLOR] right now, and it is a certainty.
This is the first time in my life where i'll be cheering for the Cowboys in a Cowboys - Eagles match-up.
Assuming romo stays healthy and doesn't choke in key moments more often than he comes up big. Jerry jones was right when he said that the cowboys go as romo goes.
Romo is a much better quarterback than even the Cowboys fans think.
The perception being fed out about his screw ups, seems to be blinding the fact that he's averaging almost 300 passing yards a game.
Sure, his additional weapons have a lot to do with it, but keep in mind, he's been making these yards against nickel and dimes mostly.
If Rookie DeMarco Murray's 250 rushing yards last week translates to 80-100 yards per game for the rest of the season, defenses that face the Cowboys are not gonna be able to nickel and dime them anymore, which will result in Romo shining even more.
Even if Romo was to be sidelined, i still calculate the cowboys ending the season around 9-7 based on the attack weapons and D.
That would still win them the division.
For those who believe that the Giants are gonna win this division, keep in mind that the Giants remaining schedule consists of traveling to New England San Fransisco, New Orleans, New York Jets, back and fourth with Dallas, in addition to hosting the Green Bay Packers.
So Yeah, the division can't be lost by the Cowboys.
I've heard talk that these three may be the new "triplets" from the old Aikman, Smith and Irvin. Perhaps it is premature, but its good sporting fodder for the pundits.
yeah... thing about that was that the triplets were only the triplets because of the supporting cast. Novacek, Johnston, and that O Line. Now this team has a better tight end in Witten, but the fullback is .. I don't even know his name..... and the O line is improving, but not stellar. The holes Murray was running through last week were pretty impressive. I almost want to scratch that game as an aberration because it was against the Rams... but then, who else has run like that against them this year?
This is jimhelm reporting live from Lincoln Financial Field.
Holy shit, batman. It's shaping up to be a blow out. Dallas can't do anything right. The ball is bouncin the eagles' way. It will take one hell of an effort to dig out of this hole.
Be careful dear. You don't want to be beat up by any Eagles fans, do you?
Wearing my Tony Homo jerzy.... Taking a lot of shit. Grin and bear it.
Would be more likely to have issues if dallas was winning.
Seems like the "dream team" showed up for a game - finally.
Dallas couldn't seem to get anything right.
With the Giants win (5-2) everyone else is at 3-4.
Makes things more interesting anyway.
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Don't blame Eli Manning, it's not his fault.
He's been brilliant at times.
It's the Defense
(Ranked 28th in the NFL in points allowed)
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Hey W.HI.P do you think there is any chance of the Coyboys getting past the Packers in the playoffs at Green Bay?
Is there any team that will beat Green Bay this season,I'm afraid they will be the 2nd team in NFL history to go undefeated 19 - 0.
Its just hard to imagine the damn Packers losing a game this year but I'd love to see dallas knock them off.
They almost lost their last game. Best chance for a loss was probably at the Bears, but since they lost Forte, they'll probably go at least 16-0. Ya never know in the playoffs though...
Hey W.HI.P do you think there is any chance of the Coyboys getting past the Packers in the playoffs at Green Bay?
Is there any team that will beat Green Bay this season,I'm afraid they will be the 2nd team in NFL history to go undefeated 19 - 0.
Its just hard to imagine the damn Packers losing a game this year but I'd love to see dallas knock them off.
The Indianapolis Colts have as much of a chance of winning the Superbowl as the Green Bay Packers do this season.
Since the Colts have already been mathematically eliminated, one would find that comment absurd.
However, it is a fact.
The NFL is run entirely by gambling money.
It is for this reason, that the Packers have a 0% chance of winning the Superbowl this season.
Very much like the Patriots a few seasons back up against the Giants.
They would have had to dish out 18 billion dollars on the game alone.
That's a 36 Billion dollar differential.....not counting all the long term bets.
So you see? ...they're not running the NFl to lose money.
They must make a profit, and it is the gambling that provides the profit.
It is the perception of the masses that place the money that guarantee those profits.
The Packers are the guarantee. That is why they have as much chance of winning this years Superbowl as the Colts do this season.
So yes, of course the Packers are gonna lose.
The Wall Street Journal reported today that the NFL is nearing a new eight year media rights agreement with Fox, NBC, and CBS that will garner $3.2 billion per year, representing a 60 percent increase. This follows the NFL's recent agreement with ESPN for "Monday Night Football" which secured $1.9 billion per season through 2021. Accounting for all media deals, the average annual media fees for the league would be around $6 billion through 2021.
@jimhelm
Over 200 billion dollars are gambled on the NFL annually.
As i said, the sports is entirely run by gambling money.
I have demonstrated in the cellar how this occurs in real time.
I can still see you in a decade from now, still calling it a coincidence, how the masses keep losing.
The last pre-season favorite to win a Superbowl was the 1985 Chicago Bears... what is that? 26 years of the masses losing their money?
Yeah, you're right, its probably just a coincidence.
Hundreds of billions couldn't corrupt a bunch of grown men playing with a ball now could it?
@JimHelm
I wager between $50.000 to $75.000 on long term bets on the NFL each season.
I wager between $2.000 to $4.000 a week during the 17 weeks of the NFL regular season.
In the play-offs, pending on what my long term bets are doing, I wager another $50.000 to $100.000.
I'm not considered a high roller.
There are guys rolling an extra digit or two.
If you honestly believe that this money doesn't come into play, than you're in toot toot land.
But you haven't connected the collections made in Vegas and overseas sports betting to actual events, and every single game is bet on both sides.
To me, it's much more likely that a line is set based on people's expectations, not that a GAME is fixed on that basis.
To fix the outcome in a sport with 90 players, 10 coaches, 60,000 people watching in person and 5 million watching remotely where random events affect almost every play... highly unlikely, and people will be trying to affect the outcome on both sides.
@UT
The money Vegas collects is not worthy of mentioning.
Landbrokes takes the majority of these bets, as they own, or co-own most collectors.
This is a web linked to royalty.
Looking further into it, you'll find major media outlets in the same web, including the NFL network.
Forget the ball players, its all controlled through the top of the franchise's.
The NFL is in the negative and would not exist without the gambling money.
...and yes, it is the expectation that guides the weekly spreads.... not quite so in Thursday, Sunday, or Monday night games, or in the play-offs.
These are the key games to the profits and the majority of them are predetermined.
If they weren't, I probably wouldn't be making the money that I do.
For its is these predetermined games that i build my base for each week, based on opposing the expectations of the masses which are rarely met.
When it comes to the Packers winning the Superbowl, well, the web collecting those billions of dollars, simply can't afford the Green Bay Packers winning the Superbowl, and therefore they won't.
Your success or lack of it doesn't seem to be proof of much
Your success or lack of it doesn't seem to be proof of much
Well sure it does.
I bet against the masses... i bet on the house winning.
The masses lose, the house wins, there is no coincidence.
I just don't get how the gambling money funds the league. Seems like there would be some kind of paper trail if that were true.
One of us is definitely in toot toot land. when 2 people are on an elevator, and one of them farts... they both know who did it.
and if it was just who wins what games... like the packers winning the super bowl, why would there be a point spread.
your argument is invalid
Just so you all get a better picture of the facts, I'll give them to you.
The 3 preseason favorites and the result
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2006-2007
[COLOR="Red"]1)Pittsburgh Steelers
2)Denver Broncos
3)Dallas Cowboys
[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Green"]The Indianapolis Colts won the Superbowl[/COLOR]
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2007-2008
[COLOR="Red"]1)New England Patriots
2)Indianapolis Colts
3)Chicago Bears
[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Green"]The New York Giants won the Superbowl[/COLOR]
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2008-2009
[COLOR="Red"]1)New England Patriots
2)Indianapolis Colts
3)San Diego Chargers[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Green"]The Pittsburgh Steelers won the Superbowl[/COLOR]
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2009-2010
[COLOR="Red"]1)New England Patriots
2)Pittsburgh Steelers
3)New York giants[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Green"]The New Orleans Saints won the Superbowl[/COLOR]
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2010-2011
[COLOR="Red"]1)New Orleans Saints
2)Indianapolis Colts
3)Baltimore Ravens[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Green"]The Green Bay Packers won the Superbowl[/COLOR]
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2011 -2012
[COLOR="Red"]1)Green Bay Packers
2)New England Patriots
3)Philadelphia Eagles[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Green"]The ____________ Won the Superbowl[/COLOR]
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This pattern goes all the way back to 1985.
If you could go back in time, all you'd really have to do every year, is exclude the top 3 favorites every season, and you'd have a chance.
But so what? If trends ruled betting you'd be rich, but they don't, because you can always find trends.
In Heads vs Tails you can find trends.
But so what? If trends ruled betting you'd be rich, but they don't, because you can always find trends.
In Heads vs Tails you can find trends.
Well almost everyone has a head, but approx 50% are no-tails....
So lets get this straight....
The guys collecting the money, are the same guys that run the media that tells everyone what to bet one.
They create the most lop-sided perceptions possible, which results in
humans, sheep-like as they are, betting on whatever they tell them to bet on, and they end up losing their money.
Show me a major event, where loads of money was gambled, where the house lost and the masses won.
It doesn't happen!
It can't always be a coincidence, can it?
How long are you guys gonna keep believing that?
Try betting against the masses in the next major gambling match-up.
I'm trying to help you guys make a little bit of money.
Take it... its free
Or is it like, I'm ruining it for you.
You enjoy watching football, and you want it to be fair, and even if it isn't, you'd rather not know about it.
Well alls I know is that W.HI.P does seem like he knows what he is talking about,to me even if the games are fixed I still can't help getting into the games,better than WWF any day haha.
Now if the Packers lose the Super Bowl,or a playoff game W.HI.P's name will pop up with a finger waving "I told ya' so" lol.
um go texans?
they're hurt bad. but are conforming to their plight. defense defense defense. wade phillips sucks as a head coach but he sure as hell knows how to run a defense!
back on track though, if betting is your thing shit i'm not stopping you and sure as hell no one else is here either. go bet. have fun! spreads to me are driven by the IR list. not a good example but go watch errr tolerate "the last boy scout"
oh. i almost forgot. FUCK the cowboys.
um go texans?
they're hurt bad. but are conforming to their plight. defense defense defense. wade phillips sucks as a head coach but he sure as hell knows how to run a defense!
No bet of mine has a greater return this season than the Houston Texans.
I got them winning their division, making the AFC Final, Winning the AFC Final, and Winning the Suberbowl.
I actually made an error when making the bets on the Texans, which lead to me having more money on them than i had originally planned.
The reason for the bet was their OL and DL.
I only found out the Texans were a 2 headed running machine after the season started.
The Texans have a legitimate chance of going far this year, as their lines are superior, and they completely control the clock.
Their defense is so good, cause their offense allows them to rest.
Not to mention, they can score.
Which team in the AFC can knock them out?
Perhaps the Oakland Raiders should Darren McFadden return 100% by the play-offs.
That's another team i wagered on at high odds.
From the NFC, I've got the Cowboys and the Falcons.
All 4 teams seem to be play-off material.
The only two teams I'm afraid of this season, that I haven't wagered on, are the Baltimore Ravens from the AFC, and the San Fransisco 49ers from the NFC.
Both teams have elite defense's.
Well alls I know is that W.HI.P does seem like he knows what he is talking about,to me even if the games are fixed I still can't help getting into the games,better than WWF any day haha.
Now if the Packers lose the Super Bowl,or a playoff game W.HI.P's name will pop up with a finger waving "I told ya' so" lol.
We've done this here before, I have no pride... I only wish to share.
The Packers won't win the Superbowl, and yet, no one will really see anything.
They'll then have a mind set that the team that wins the 2011-2012 Superbowl has a chance to repeat in 2012-2013.
Sheep.
I don't think you are an honest person
Just so you all get a better picture of the facts, I'll give them to you.
The 3 preseason favorites and the result
This pattern goes all the way back to 1985.
Everyone assumes the winner will repeat and they rarely do.
Except that it did happen going back to 1985, in 1989, 1993, and 2004.
I don't think you are dishonest WHIP but I know you're dishonest with yourself.
You say bet on the house side, but you don't know which side the house is on. And neither does the house, until they set the lines.
To imagine the NFL is controlled is ridiculous on its face. It's conspiracy theory, and conspiracy theory is the realm of the unwise. We know it's conspiracy theory because we ask you to connect the facts and you fail to do so. Your unconvincing argument "how could it not be?" is the same fodder offered up by people who believe we never landed on the moon. You can't make the connection, so you only offer up more theory.
This is incorrect thinking, and to continue with this attitude and have losing seasons like you have had is foolish.
You will be wiser when you have failed hard and are forced to take a long hard look at your situation, and will come to the conclusion that the outcomes looked like conspiracy but could happen all along without conspiracy.
Favorites don't repeat... so what! It means the league has parity, a high degree of randomness, and winning players that become free agents make it harder to achieve long-term success at the highest level. The public thinks favorites will repeat... so what! This is an instinct you can take advantage of in the lines, but it doesn't prove, in any way, that it's conspiracy.
The Packers, the Patriots, and the Eagles will not win the superbowl, for they are the pre-season favorites.
Next season, the same things gonna happen, and the next, and the next.
At what point will you start disregarding the top 3 favorites and look on to the real contenders...... and make some money doing it.
You are aware that the 3 favorites have a smaller price than everyone else right?
If there was a horse race, and you knew before hand that the top 3 favorites were not gonna win, you'd be making some serious money.
I'm making some serious money, join me.
Yes but what you have determined is the nature of the game as it has evolved, not some super-secret conspiracy to control outcomes.
More likely, free agency and losing the top draft picks make it harder for the top 10% of teams to remain elite. You know that. You point that out year after year: NFL success requires a round of poor seasons to accumulate quality in the draft.
oh. i almost forgot. FUCK the cowboys.
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HaHaHa....
We've done this here before, I have no pride... I only wish to share.
The Packers won't win the Superbowl, and yet, no one will really see anything.
I think that this will change this year W.HI.P ,I don't know man,I don't care for them but the Green Bay Packers are so good right now,the last 3 games are : At Kansas City which is an easy win,then Chicago at Green Bay and Detroit at Green Bay which will easily give them 16-0 easily.
Then they have a first round bye,then 2 playoff games at Green Bay which they will easily win those 2 games and then they will beat any AFC team in the Super Bowl.
I have to say I really think that they will repeat this year....maybe all the gambling money wants the pckers to win,not lose...thats why they are unbeatable this year?
.. or they're a very talented, well-coached team, which has avoided a critical injury.
I think that this will change this year W.HI.P ,I don't know man,I don't care for them but the Green Bay Packers are so good right now,the last 3 games are : At Kansas City which is an easy win,then Chicago at Green Bay and Detroit at Green Bay which will easily give them 16-0 easily.
Then they have a first round bye,then 2 playoff games at Green Bay which they will easily win those 2 games and then they will beat any AFC team in the Super Bowl.
I have to say I really think that they will repeat this year....maybe all the gambling money wants the pckers to win,not lose...thats why they are unbeatable this year?
The Packers look about as unbeatable as the Patriots looked a few years back.. they called them "The greatest team of all time.
It reminds of that con that they used to fool people with on the street, where a guy with a stand has 3 cards facing down, 1 of them is a queen, they show it to you, then shuffle them around, and you chose which one's the queen.
The fact is, when you chose, there is no queen down there.
Its a suckers game.
Those Patriots and these Packers are the queens.
...but go ahead, play.
so, if you're so sure that the Packers won't win the Super Bowl....
would you agree to have your account log in changed to M.US.H. if they do win it this year?
so, if you're so sure that the Packers won't win the Super Bowl....
would you agree to have your account log in changed to M.US.H. if they do win it this year?
If you change your name to "Listen to W.HI.P" when they don't, then we've got a deal.
I'm not the one making the claims and guarantees here, bub.
so, I'm a pussy because I wont bet you even up on odds that are 12 to one against me....and 1 to twelve in your favor about something you are so sure of?
Got it.
so, I'm a pussy because I wont bet you even up on odds that are 12 to one against me....and 1 to twelve in your favor about something you are so sure of?
Got it.
What are you on about?
The odds are at exactly 2.35 decimal at this moment in time.
Its a fair bet.
Where the hell did you get 12.00?
I found this part of your post funny:
You say bet on the house side, but you don't know which side the house is on. And neither does the house, until they set the lines.
The house is on the side where the money isn't.
I mentioned earlier that the majority of fixes between week 1 and 17 are on Thursday, Sunday, and sometimes, Monday night games.
These are games that are on when no other games are on.
These are the games that are wagered on more than the others.
These are the games where the spread is made to influence lop-sided betting.
You always find the Media concentrating on these games, and ex NFL players all agreeing with each other on who's gonna win, influencing where the money is bet.
You see if the favorite beats the spread on a Thursday night, the majority of the money generated are parlayed into Sunday, and thus less money is wagered on Sunday.
If the majority of people lose their bets on Thursday, they will be forced to wager from scratch on Sunday, thus you generate more money.
To imagine the NFL is controlled is ridiculous on its face. It's conspiracy theory, and conspiracy theory is the realm of the unwise. We know it's conspiracy theory because we ask you to connect the facts and you fail to do so. Your unconvincing argument "how could it not be?" is the same fodder offered up by people who believe we never landed on the moon. You can't make the connection, so you only offer up more theory.
We're not talking about the existence of one of the hundreds of Gods and Goddesses in human perception.
We're talking about pocketing money.
LJ made an argument that if my theory was correct, that it would leave a paper trail.
Seriously?
Do you really think that people pocketing billions of dollars from the masses, would leave a paper trail proving their guilt?
You ask for evidence?
Do you really think that they'd leave evidence for me to provide for you to see?
Call it whatever you like, conspiracy or not, the masses lose, and their tools are helping the masses lose.
You may believe that media outlets coincidentally assist in the masses losing their money, I do not.
Yes but what you have determined is the nature of the game as it has evolved, not some super-secret conspiracy to control outcomes.
You could say that, if i had just come out now and said what i've been saying.
However, I've been talking about it since you first met me, and well before that.
I have been at the cellar for 6 years now talking about this
Time has shown, that in the NFL, my theory is consistent with reality.
More likely, free agency and losing the top draft picks make it harder for the top 10% of teams to remain elite. You know that. You point that out year after year: NFL success requires a round of poor seasons to accumulate quality in the draft.
Thank you!
This is the reality in the NFL, NHL, NBA and somewhat in the MLB.
This is another key in making profits on long term bets.
Betting on teams that hold very strong young rosters who were evidently drafting the years before, result in large prices on serious contending teams.
Perfect example for the upcoming season could be the
[COLOR="Green"]Washington Nationals[/COLOR], as 19 year old, soon to be legend,
[COLOR="Blue"]Bryce Harper,[/COLOR] will be starting in the Major leagues.
Harper is accompanied in the line-up by power-full hitting
Zimmerman and
Werth.
Word has it that they're after an elite lead off man to compliment this starting line-up
The team holds Starting pitcher "
[COLOR="Blue"]Stephen Strasburgh[/COLOR]" who is the most watched starter in the game, and he is phenomenal!
Tyler Clippard is about as good as a reliever can be.
Now, the Nationals play in a division with the #1 favorite to win the world series Philadelphia Phillies, the amazing Atlanta braves, the up and coming Miami Marlins, and the poor hopeless NY Mets.
So the price is going to be through the roof when it comes out.
You need only put a few coins on Washington to make some serious dough.
You have now extended the conspiracy to all media and ex-players.
It's the paper trail, as Jim says. Not just paper, but people trail. Conspiracy theories are ridiculous according to how many people are involved in them. Because when enough people are involved, the truth will inevitably come out.
Watergate, for example, was known about by a handful of people - less than twenty, until the combination of paper trail and interested informant were located.
In this case, the billions of dollars involved means that enormous attention is paid to determining outcomes. For the consistent NFL fix you claim, over a thousand people are to not just know about it, but stake their reputations and professional futures against it. If just one wife of one fired coach speaks out, the entire thing crumbles and frankly the sport is over.
I DO believe that the lines are set according to expectations and not actual quality. That's not conspiracy, that's simply the game afoot. But is it the masses' expectations or the big money bettors? If the big money is aware of this practice it would surely disappear.
(part 2)
If you look at the regular season record
against the spread you notice that it's incredibly close. Almost all teams are .500 against the spread or one game off it. Since you must win 55% of the time to make money, this is a terrible atmosphere for betting.
So what is special about the teams higher or lower than .500 against the spread. The teams you would have won money betting on this year are the Packers, Bengals, 49ers. One expected to win, one expected to lose, and one average. The teams you would have lost betting for are the Rams, Colts, Chargers. One expected to lose and two average.
What you notice above all else is that teams with a good record do well against the spread and teams with a poor record do poorly against the spread. This is exactly in line with expectations. We should think that the "expectations" wagers are now taken into account and people are betting underdogs against teams known to be good.
Its a pretty simple thing UT, there are two possibilities in a Football game in regards to the bet.
There are a lot of games starting with 85%-95% lopsided bets.
When this is the case, they take the money, especially in the play-offs, and in Thursday or Sunday night games.
You may continue to believe that the lop-sided bets are lost due coincidence or not, it makes no difference to me.
If you followed the money as I do, you would find that it is too common that the 5%-15% wins to be a coincidence.
The house wins, fix or no fix.
What the media sells, never wins.
The masses buy, the masses lose.
Those are the facts.
Your details are unnecessary.
Post your playoff picks and let's see.
W.HI.P what "IF" the Packers actually do win the Super Bowl....what would be your explanation then?
he'll wait a year and then say he told us that all along.
Post your playoff picks and let's see.
My picks are made before every season starts when i make my bets.
I've already mentioned the teams i've bet on, and the teams I wish i had bet on.
Gambling isn't about winning, its about making money.... there is a huge huge difference between the two.
You see Winning 8 out of 10 single bets at odds of 1.24 will see you winning 8 times , but you will be in fact losing money.
Now Winning 1 out of 10 single bets at odds of 10.01, will see you losing 9 times, but you will in fact, make a profit.
So again, its not about winning, that is the most common mistake of a gambler.... it is however, about making money.
Take a listen to Jay-Z for advice, and put your money on the long shots, and forget about winning and cheering, this about the money.
I'm going to go through my long term bets still pending, to show you where my money is, and how i bet on long term bets in the NFL.
You don't really need to win any Superbowl to make some serious cash.
If one of these teams lose in the AFC or NFC final, I'm gonna make some profit this season.
Now if one of them make it to the Superbowl and lose, well, that's a whole different category of money...that's some serious shit.
You don't need to win the Superbowl in this way of betting.
If you're smart, and you bet the way that I do, placing the majority of money on the most likely thing, in these following bets, the majority of money is placed on making the AFC or NFC final game.
A third of that is placed on Winning the AFC or NFC.
And one sixth of that on the Superbowl.
That's some serious cash down there!
Weekly bets of a few grand are mickey mouse in comparison.
AFC South Division winner : [COLOR="Green"]Houston Texans[/COLOR] 3/1
NFC East Division Winner : [COLOR="Green"]Dallas Cowboys[/COLOR] 4/1
AFC Finalist : [COLOR="Green"]Houston Texans[/COLOR] 6.33/1
NFC Finalist : [COLOR="Green"]Atlanta Falcons [/COLOR]4/1
NFC Finalist : [COLOR="Green"]Dallas Cowboys[/COLOR] 8/1
AFC Finalist : [COLOR="Green"]Oakland Raiders [/COLOR]23/1
AFC Winner : [COLOR="Green"]Houston Texans[/COLOR] 17/1
NFC Winner : [COLOR="Green"]Atlanta Falcons[/COLOR] 8/1
NFC Winner : [COLOR="Green"]Dallas Cowboys[/COLOR] 16/1
AFC Winner : [COLOR="Green"]Oakland Raiders [/COLOR]46/1
Superbowl Winner : [COLOR="Green"]Houston Texans [/COLOR] 29/1
Superbowl Winner : [COLOR="Green"]Atlanta Falcons [/COLOR]15/1
Superbowl Winner : [COLOR="Green"]Dallas Cowboys[/COLOR] 26/1
Superbowl Winner : [COLOR="Green"]Oakland Raiders[/COLOR] 92/1
W.HI.P what "IF" the Packers actually do win the Super Bowl....what would be your explanation then?
If I make a profit on my long term bets, i won't really care who wins the Superbowl.
Winning the Superbowl with one of my picks would be a dream world for me, but I don't really need that to happen the way that I bet.
In fact, I would make more money, if two of my teams make it to the AFC or NFC Finals, then if 1 of my teams simply won the superbowl.
Unless of course its the Houston Texans, where, as i said before, I made an error when wagering on them, and i bet too much.
The guys that run the show, haven't really been generous.
I highly doubt they plan on taking billions of dollars out of their own pockets and throwing it to the masses.
I'll play your game though, Should the Packers make the Superbowl, They could make a lot of money off the game itself, simply by the Packers winning under the spread, however that would still consist of them dishing out some serious cash on the long term bets already placed on the Packers by the masses.
So, yeah, it's highly unlikely that the Packers win the Superbowl, but if by some unexpected moment of generosity, they decide to pay up on the long term bets, well, they will certainly not be generous on the money wagered on them in the spread.
So, If it comes to pass that the Packers win the Superbowl, it will be under the spread.
So yeah, bet against the Packers.
There is no scenario where one would bet on the Packers beating a spread in a Superbowl game
Already hedging.
This, I guess, is my intolerably irritating.
Noted that you omitted the amount you supposedly bet on those long term wagers, so it remains impossible for us to conclude whether you actually won money.
I am frankly skeptical that you actually placed any real bets.
AFC South Division winner : [COLOR="Green"]Houston Texans[/COLOR] 3/1
NFC East Division Winner : [COLOR="Green"]Dallas Cowboys[/COLOR] 4/1
AFC Finalist : [COLOR="Green"]Houston Texans[/COLOR] 6.33/1
NFC Finalist : [COLOR="Green"]Atlanta Falcons [/COLOR]4/1
NFC Finalist : [COLOR="Green"]Dallas Cowboys[/COLOR] 8/1
AFC Finalist : [COLOR="Green"]Oakland Raiders [/COLOR]23/1
AFC Winner : [COLOR="Green"]Houston Texans[/COLOR] 17/1
NFC Winner : [COLOR="Green"]Atlanta Falcons[/COLOR] 8/1
NFC Winner : [COLOR="Green"]Dallas Cowboys[/COLOR] 16/1
AFC Winner : [COLOR="Green"]Oakland Raiders [/COLOR]46/1
Superbowl Winner : [COLOR="Green"]Houston Texans [/COLOR] 29/1
Superbowl Winner : [COLOR="Green"]Atlanta Falcons [/COLOR]15/1
Superbowl Winner : [COLOR="Green"]Dallas Cowboys[/COLOR] 26/1
Superbowl Winner : [COLOR="Green"]Oakland Raiders[/COLOR] 92/1
If Oakland wins the superbowl I am going to hurt someone.
If Oakland wins the superbowl I am going to hurt someone.
can we pick who?
Noted that you omitted the amount you supposedly bet on those long term wagers,
No I didn't, I provided them quite specifically actually...... ^^^Read up^^^
(I will copy and paste at your request)
so it remains impossible for us to conclude whether you actually won money.
How ignorant of you.
All the prices are there, and all the equations are there.
I wrote very specifically:
[COLOR="Blue"]the majority of money is placed on making the AFC or NFC final game.
A third of that is placed on Winning the AFC or NFC.
And one sixth of that on the Superbowl. [/COLOR]
Did you not make it through 4th grade?
Its a simple math equation
Lets take the Texans, and the 4 scenario's where i would get paid.
Houston Texans Win the Superbowl $1000 x 29 = $29.000 + $34.000 + $37.980 + $40.000 = [COLOR="Green"]$140.980[/COLOR]
Houston Texans lose in Superbowl $2.000 x 17 = $34.000 + $37.980 + $40.000 = [COLOR="Green"]$111.980[/COLOR]
Houston Texans lose in AFC Final $6.000 x 6.33 = $37.980 + 40.000 = [COLOR="Green"]$77.980 [/COLOR]
Houston Texans division win $10.000 x 4 = [COLOR="Green"]$40.000[/COLOR]
If Oakland wins the superbowl I am going to hurt someone.
[SIZE="3"][COLOR="Red"]Fear [/COLOR][COLOR="Green"]Darren McFadden[/COLOR][/SIZE]Thanks for turning this thread into another of your chest thumping betting clinics,btw.
Dickhole
I gotta agree with Jim on this one.
All this betting shit should be moved into Whip's thread made specifically for that.
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ETA - I HATE THE COWBOYS!
I really wish that the Eagles had lost and/or the Boys had won last week. It would have ended any remote hope of the Eagles going to the playoffs and put them on track for a much better draft pick.
The Cowboys would have virtually secured a playoff spot and extended their NFC East lead over the Giants.
THAT is what should have happened.
which is exactly why it didn't. and no, it's not because of money in any way. it was god.
Yeh well that football god/goddess is really pissin me off.
1) Andy will hang around another season ($10 million reasons for that)
2) We'll hear about how he traded down ANOTHER, now much lower, 1st round pick for whatever stupid reason he comes up with.
not happy.
I came into this thread to tell LJ that his team has a shot.
It's not me guiding this conversation down this path.
You can't blame me for answering question.
well, what CAN I blame you for? There must be something.
seems a little thin.....
I'm going to settle for a general malaise and withering distaste in place of actual blame.
It's something....
can we pick who?
Yes, but only amongst those who have posted in this thread.
well, what CAN I blame you for? There must be something.
If you're a Christian, I'm the one you blame for EVERYTHING!
9/11.
If you look at the true meaning behind this combination of numbers, then yes.... I am the one and only one to blame for 9/11.
Few, if any, will get what I just said.
For few people understand the meaning of numbers.
For those (if any) who do, consider whats being jumped/skipped, and you'll have the answer.
The Packers are [COLOR="Red"]0-1[/COLOR] since i said that the unbeatable Packers would lose.
You didn't say they would lose. You said they would not win the Superbowl. Again, you would lose if you bet the Packers against the spread this year, as they have the third best record against the spread.
It's not me guiding this conversation down this path.
You can't blame me for answering question.
The Packers are [COLOR="Red"]0-1[/COLOR] since i said that the unbeatable Packers would lose.
here.<<< That's your self fellating Betting Tips thread. Now get the fuck out of my Dallas Cowboys thread with your filthy lies!
unless you wanna talk COWBOYS!
NFC EAST leading Cowboys, in case you were wondering! Woooooo!
shit. I forgot that thread got locked.
here's
a newer one that no one ever replied to.
Hey W.HI.P do you think there is any chance of the Coyboys getting past the Packers in the playoffs at Green Bay?
Is there any team that will beat Green Bay this season,I'm afraid they will be the 2nd team in NFL history to go undefeated 19 - 0.
Its just hard to imagine the damn Packers losing a game this year but I'd love to see dallas knock them off.
So yes, of course the Packers are gonna lose.
The Packers losing last week did not prove my point.
The Patriots, when they lost the superbowl against the giants, lost their final 9 games against the spread.
My point remains that they are gonna make some serious cash off the perception people have on these Packers.
NFC EAST leading Cowboys, in case you were wondering! Woooooo!
Called it, bet on it.
You didn't say they would lose. You said they would not win the Superbowl. Again, you would lose if you bet the Packers against the spread this year, as they have the third best record against the spread.
Not since I pointed it out, in fact not only do they have the worst record in the NFL against the spread, but they have the worst record in the NFL in wins & losses since I called it.
This is the Patriots re-lived.
Its funny you bring up that season LJ, cause that was a very profitable season for me.
That's the year i called, and bet on the Tampa Bay Rays winning the American League East, after finishing last overall in the Major leagues at 67/1!
Thanks for reminding me.
aint he though?
god, Whip. you're fucking AWESOME! Can you mail me a lock of your hair for good luck?
tell us about some more cool shit you said! I, for one, can't get enough!
If you would print Tshirts that say W.HI.P in the back, I'd buy like ....11 of them!
Why don't you just take the bet you offered me and then backed out of?
cock.
Sorry, I'm straight ....good luck though.
Nanny nanny boo boo
Your team sucks and so do you
So n'yeah n'yeah n'yeah to you
Imma take my ball and go home
:lol:
I didn't offer anything. I asked you to put your money where your mouth was.
You made a very confident proclamation that the Pack would NOT win the Super Bowl. I asked you to guarantee it. Big difference.
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You're just scared of changing your name to "Listen to W.HI.P" When the Packers don't win the Superbowl.
You've become aware that there might be a team as good as the Chiefs that can beat them.
Yes, that's exactly right.
exactly
Did any of Mr Whippy's enormous [strike]penis[/strike] fortune ever hit the tip jar?
(....and will I now get another PM about my mother? [COLOR="LemonChiffon"]And btw if you did do that to her I'd get yourself tested.....[/COLOR])
How in the fuck could they have picked the Patriots 2 years in a row as one of the favorites W.HI.P?
I was one that thought they were going to the Superbowl last year when you told me thier defense isn't strong enough,thier defense sucked balls last year and is even worse this year as they are dead last in defense so how could they pick them as one of the favorites?
The have absolutely no chance in the playoffs this year,no chance at all,if they get home field throughout they will be killed in the divisional at New England because of the shit defense.
[SIZE="6"]GET THIS SHIT OUT OF THIS THREAD.[/SIZE]
How in the fuck could they have picked the Patriots 2 years in a row as one of the favorites W.HI.P?
I was one that thought they were going to the Superbowl last year when you told me thier defense isn't strong enough,thier defense sucked balls last year and is even worse this year as they are dead last in defense so how could they pick them as one of the favorites?
The have absolutely no chance in the playoffs this year,no chance at all,if they get home field throughout they will be killed in the divisional at New England because of the shit defense.
Its all about perception JD, You say the name Tom Brady over the NFL network a trillion times, and people might actually start believing that he's one of the 5 best quarterbacks in the NFL.
The [COLOR="Red"]Patriots[/COLOR] have been their huge money maker over the past 5-6 years, but now, they've replaced the word [COLOR="Red"]Patriots[/COLOR] with the word [COLOR="Red"]Packers[/COLOR], they've replaced [COLOR="Red"]New England[/COLOR] with [COLOR="Red"]Green Bay[/COLOR], and last not but not least, they've replaced the name [COLOR="Red"]Tom Brady[/COLOR] with [COLOR="Red"]Aaron Rodgers[/COLOR].
[SIZE="6"]GET THIS SHIT OUT OF THIS THREAD.[/SIZE]
I wasn't aware there was censorship in the cellar, I thought we could drift away from topics.
Its not like we're exchanging cooking ingredients.... but even if we were.
Unless of course the Cellar is changing as the USA is.
You created your own thread for this stuff - GO THERE.
Jim asked nicely and even provided a link to your own thread.
GET THIS SHIT OUT OF THIS THREAD.
[SIZE="6"]GET THIS SHIT OUT OF THIS THREAD.[/SIZE]
classicman.....ohhhhh no we drifted away from the original topic,would you like a box of fucking tissues to wipe your baby tears smartass? Big fucking deal we drifted away from "The Dallas Cowboys" topic now go suck your thumb of whatever else it is that you suck.
Apparently you two are the only ones interested in your betting comments and you already have two threads for it. Why can't you take it there and stop shitting on this thread? A link was even posted in this one for you.
I assumed jd was whip's sock puppet, actually....
I'm still up for that bet if you have any balls left LJ.
I've only got this account, you have at least 2, if not 3...so its not really gonna kill you.
We can even bring the stakes down a little... like, we just have to change our name for a week, following the result.
So what you say? ..got any balls?
no... no balls.
I never said the packers WOULD win.. you said they WOULD NOT.
do you understand the words coming out of my mouth?
The Dallas Cowboys are 1-2 in the month of December but are still in position to win their division.
With a win in Week 16 and a loss by the New York Giants, the Cowboys would wrap up the NFC East.
Unfortunately, the Cowboys will have a tough time pulling that off. Not only are they facing a
streaking Philadelphia Eagles team. The Cowboys could also be without running back Felix Jones.
With an already depleted running game, Dallas is looking one dimensional at the worst possible time.
This can only mean a total destruction of the Eagles this week. When things look best,
the Birds typically fold like a card house in a hurricane.
The Indianapolis Colts have as much of a chance of winning the Superbowl as the Green Bay Packers do this season.
Since the Colts have already been mathematically eliminated, one would find that comment absurd.
However, it is a fact.
The NFL is run entirely by gambling money.
It is for this reason, that the Packers have a 0% chance of winning the Superbowl this season.
Very much like the Patriots a few seasons back up against the Giants.
They would have had to dish out 18 billion dollars on the game alone.
That's a 36 Billion dollar differential.....not counting all the long term bets.
So you see? ...they're not running the NFl to lose money.
They must make a profit, and it is the gambling that provides the profit.
It is the perception of the masses that place the money that guarantee those profits.
The Packers are the guarantee. That is why they have as much chance of winning this years Superbowl as the Colts do this season.
So yes, of course the Packers are gonna lose.
I rest my case.
Dallas should finish 10-6 or 11-5 this season.
The only teams i see that could stand in your way to playing in the Superbowl is Atlanta or San Fransisco.
If it comes to playing one of those two, Your team will have a legitimate shot at winning.
The division is the key bet though right now, as i can't see how your team can lose it.
Even if you lose Sunday night against my Eagles, you'll still win it.
The division win pays [COLOR="SeaGreen"]3.25[/COLOR] right now, and it is a certainty.
This was your stone cold mortal lock proclamation, made not at the beginning of the season but near the half. And who beat the Pack tonight? Who was it now, who beat the Pack?
The NFC East winner who was not the Cowboys.
And you failed to show up two weeks ago, when the boys ended their season in not second place but THIRD place in the division.
got some nerve.
Yes,you are right once again W.HI.P. lol. Now,since New England has no chance at all in beating the Ravens,the Ravens will shut down Tom Brady with ease and beat the Pats by 3 touchdowns easily.
So the Super Bowl will be Baltimore Vs. the Giants or 49ers,so I'm happy!! I like all 4 teams left so I don't care who wins now,Baltimore Vs. SanFran is a good Super Bowl,so is Baltimore Vs. New York(again) so thats the match up...cool.
If you're smart, and you bet the way that I do, placing the majority of money on the most likely thing, in these following bets, the majority of money is placed on making the AFC or NFC final game.
A third of that is placed on Winning the AFC or NFC.
And one sixth of that on the Superbowl.
That's some serious cash down there!
Weekly bets of a few grand are mickey mouse in comparison.
AFC South Division winner : Houston Texans 3/1
NFC East Division Winner : Dallas Cowboys 4/1
AFC Finalist : Houston Texans 6.33/1
NFC Finalist : Atlanta Falcons 4/1
NFC Finalist : Dallas Cowboys 8/1
AFC Finalist : Oakland Raiders 23/1
AFC Winner : Houston Texans 17/1
NFC Winner : Atlanta Falcons 8/1
NFC Winner : Dallas Cowboys 16/1
AFC Winner : Oakland Raiders 46/1
Superbowl Winner : Houston Texans 29/1
Superbowl Winner : Atlanta Falcons 15/1
Superbowl Winner : Dallas Cowboys 26/1
Superbowl Winner : Oakland Raiders 92/1
Out of all these bets the only one that came through went off at 3/1.
Good lord.
Yes,you are right once again W.HI.P. lol. Now,since New England has no chance at all in beating the Ravens,the Ravens will shut down Tom Brady with ease and beat the Pats by 3 touchdowns easily.
So the Super Bowl will be Baltimore Vs. the Giants or 49ers,so I'm happy!! I like all 4 teams left so I don't care who wins now,Baltimore Vs. SanFran is a good Super Bowl,so is Baltimore Vs. New York(again) so thats the match up...cool.
It's a defensive game, it always has been.
I can't believe people fall for the heavy attacks of the Packers, Patriots, and Saints.
A Ravens - 49ers match-up will be ideal.
Top 2 defenses from each conference.
My Houston bet almost paid me.
I failed with my long term bets, but I'm 100% on the spread so far in the play-offs.
3 more games left for perfection!
but I'm 100% on the spread so far in the play-offs
This would indicate that you did not bet against the Patriots, which we here feel is unlikely.
This would indicate that you did not bet against the Patriots, which we here feel is unlikely.
Against the Broncos?
What, are you kidding?
Anyhoo, to continue with it, its on the Ravens +8.5, and the niners -1.5
Against the Broncos?
What, are you kidding?
Anyhoo, to continue with it, its on the Ravens +8.5, and the niners -1.5
I hate you W.HI.P ! lol! The Patriots are my second favorite team and I put 25 bucks on the Ravens winning Sunday! Make no mistake about it,I'll gladly pay 25 bucks to see my Patriots go to the Super Bowl but if Baltimore wins I'll be 25 bucks ahead.... Please lie to me and tell me the Patriots have a chance Sunday lol
I hate you W.HI.P ! lol! The Patriots are my second favorite team and I put 25 bucks on the Ravens winning Sunday! Make no mistake about it,I'll gladly pay 25 bucks to see my Patriots go to the Super Bowl but if Baltimore wins I'll be 25 bucks ahead.... Please lie to me and tell me the Patriots have a chance Sunday lol
I suppose they do.
A 49ers - Ravens Superbowl looks as if the betting would be balanced.
A convincing Patriots win would see a lot of money on them in the final game.
If they do end up in the final game, bet against them there.
Winning it all? Without a D?
I don't know about that, we've never really seen a team win a Superbowl without a defense, so it would be a first.
The Ravens and the 49ers are the strong defensive teams that remain, and should be considered top contenders for the big prize.
ew..... could someone rent these two a room at a rate they could afford between them? SamIam?
:p:
I'm thinking they only need a single...
If you're paying only $1 for the room, you need to hand over some turquoise jewelry too.
ew..... could someone rent these two a room at a rate they could afford between them? SamIam?
:p:
LOL wow,your a regular comedian I see eh,not bad for a top 40 listening sheep. lol
Yes, I am quite funny.
What is a Top 40 listening sheep? Do you speak English or did you use a google translator for that, eh?
Here are some English pointers for you:
You're not your
space after a comma
comma before eh, period/full stop (or question mark) after
colons either side of lol for shits and grins.
Here's the corrected version for you to compare and contrast:
:lol: wow, you're a regular comedian, I see, eh? not bad for a top 40 listening sheep. :lol:
We'll deal with Capitalization next time when i have my new keyboard.
oh and don't forget to felch whippy boy when you're done :)
[QUOTE=monster;789798]Yes, I am quite funny.
What is a Top 40 listening sheep?
Oh that? Its you listening to top 40 shit music. lol.
How you took time to correct my grammar proves my point. lol::D
"Top 40 listening sheep?" you really must update your insults since 8th grade.
I agree with UT.
Last time I insulted monster, I told her to go fuck her mother.
W.HI.P!!! My PATRIOTS are going to the SUPER BOWL!!!!!
They ain't gonna win but Brady ties Joe Montana for most playoff wins,ties John Elway for Super Bowl appearances(5) and Bilichick is the first head coach to coach in 5 Super bowls! HELL YEAH!!!
Anyone who ties Joe Montana is OK in my book!
Go Patriots!
How come the coach of the Ravens didn't get a Benny Boo Boo hat? His face was all funny. :lol:
I agree with UT.
Last time I insulted monster, I told her to go fuck her mother.
That was supposed to be an insult? Shit, wish I'd known at the time, our relationship could have a whole different direction now...
W.HI.P!!! My PATRIOTS are going to the SUPER BOWL!!!!!
They ain't gonna win but Brady ties Joe Montana for most playoff wins,ties John Elway for Super Bowl appearances(5) and Bilichick is the first head coach to coach in 5 Super bowls! HELL YEAH!!!
You could actually win it, although under the spread.
Still 100% in the play-offs!
If the 49ers hang on to this 4 point lead, I'll be betting on them to beat the spread in the Superbowl, for a perfect play-offs yet again!
You could actually win it, although under the spread.
Still 100% in the play-offs!
If the 49ers hang on to this 4 point lead, I'll be betting on them to beat the spread in the Superbowl, for a perfect play-offs yet again!
Well,I lost 25 bucks on the Ravens,but I'm happy the Pats are headed to the super Bowl again,however I'll be betting against them for sure.
I don't think they can beat San Fran or New York,the defense on both are too good for Brady because New England's defense can't bail out Brady,the Pats are only there because of Baltimore's mistakes,especailly the last one lol.
Opps,Bilichick is not the only coach to coach 5 Super Bowls,he Ties Tom Landry.
Yes I'm posting this in the Cowboys' thread and if ya don't like it too fucking bad,grab a tissue lol.
Like him or hate him (as most hate him haha!) and even though I think the fucking New York Giants will win today's Super Bowl(GOD DAMN I HOPE I'M WRONG,IF I AM I'LL CELEBRATE LOL!)
And regardless of Manning or Brady's performance,Tom Brady is still the best QB of this era regardless of "stats" and blah blah blah he is still the best of this era these last 10/11 years.
5 Super Bowl appearances (Tied with John Elway) 2 Super Bowl MVPs,3 Super Bowl rings it will be hard to top Brady.
The only thing worse than a Gina's fan is a Patsy's fan.
Not wanting cheaters to prosper, I will root Giants.
Just got the hoagies, chips, soda, beer and asst. other crap.
My kids and I are watching Game of Thrones Season 1 reruns till 10.
I'm a happy man.
Im at amandas house with my kids and about 15 strangers.... Lots of good food, and a nice party atmosphere....win.
Home with the girls. Eating wings, watching half-time, remembering what I hated about the Eighties...:)
Really? Because I liked the halftime show for the first time in a long time. I didn't know what to expect from Madonna...but starting out with Vogue hooked me. Production value? Great, nicely done. Good dancing, nice choreography, no wardrobe malfunctions, and Madonna is in the best shape on earth to put on the shows she puts on, what with not being 20 anymore and all. :)
It seemed pre-recorded but I've never been good at figuring that out.
Can't take that chipmunk voice. Fortunately, music is wide open now so folks can avoid it, unlike back in the eighties.
Crap Pierre Paul went down. Looks okay though.
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2006-2007
[COLOR="Red"]1)Pittsburgh Steelers
2)Denver Broncos
3)Dallas Cowboys
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[COLOR="Green"]The Indianapolis Colts won the Superbowl[/COLOR]
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2007-2008
[COLOR="Red"]1)New England Patriots
2)Indianapolis Colts
3)Chicago Bears
[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Green"]The New York Giants won the Superbowl[/COLOR]
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2008-2009
[COLOR="Red"]1)New England Patriots
2)Indianapolis Colts
3)San Diego Chargers[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Green"]The Pittsburgh Steelers won the Superbowl[/COLOR]
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2009-2010
[COLOR="Red"]1)New England Patriots
2)Pittsburgh Steelers
3)New York giants[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Green"]The New Orleans Saints won the Superbowl[/COLOR]
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2010-2011
[COLOR="Red"]1)New Orleans Saints
2)Indianapolis Colts
3)Baltimore Ravens[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Green"]The Green Bay Packers won the Superbowl[/COLOR]
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2011 -2012
[COLOR="Red"]1)Green Bay Packers
2)New England Patriots
3)Philadelphia Eagles[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Green"]The New York Giants Won the Superbowl[/COLOR]
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2012-2013
[COLOR="Red"]1)Green bay Packers
2)New England Patriots
3)New Orleans Saints[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Green"]The _________ Won the Superbowl[/COLOR]
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It just goes on and on... expect it!
It's a shame you can't place a bet that pays if the favorite does NOT win.
Or maybe you can if you take the short side of the odds.
I guess thats what bookies do, as I think of it.....duh.
It just goes on and on... expect it!
Here is why this is not interesting: Vegas expects the "top three" not to win!
http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/futures/
Top three: Packers 1 in 5, Saints 1/6, Patriots 1/7
Bottom 29: Steelers 1/12, Eagles 1/12... all the way down to Browns 1/100
Combining all these[1], Vegas sets the odds of the top three winning at about .50 and the odds of the bottom 29 at about 1.0
If you split $100 across the top 3 and another across the bottom 29... Vegas would expect a payout in the bottom 29.
Sparky... Vegas agrees with you!
[1]Combining odds in this way doesn't make too much sense because it is
probability that you must actually combine. If probability was 1.0 it would be 100%, a certain outcome
Whaddya think about this week, Griff?
I'm a little worried that the Cowboys might get a bit cocky. If Dak gets flustered like with Philly, we can't count on Tomlin to hand us the game back like Doug did.
My God, did you see that Pittsburgh-Dallas game yesterday?!?!
Some of the best football I've seen in years.
Wasn't real happy with the outcome, but, still...
Eight in a row for Dallas.
Watched the last 5 minutes, what craziness! What a game!
And 0 for 4 going for two point conversion...!
I came away with a nervous tick
Hope it doesn't give you Nervous Lyme Disease.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000740373/article/tony-romo-dak-prescotts-earned-right-to-be-qb
This was like a concession speech.
I guess it really was, but there was no election. I thought for a moment that he was about to retire. Such a somber tone. Hopefully, this quiets the incessant reporting about the conundrum they have, and they can go on fully focused on each game. Good to know that we have the best backup in the league.
I hope he restructures his deal, plays 2 or 3 more seasons in this role, and transitions to coaching.
Class guy. Class move.
Fucking Go Cowboy. And Cowboys.
"I feel like we have two battles or two enemies going on: one with the man across from you and the second with the man inside of you. I think once you control the man inside of you, the one across from you doesn't really matter. I think that's what we're all trying to do."
That's some pretty good stuff.
I'm glad I didn't sell his jersey all those times
I was impressed with his speech also.
Eleven and one. And we get to confront that One next Sunday. That one point.
Grisly, frustrating game against a stingy Vikings defense last night. Felt like a stolen win. Not an enjoyable performance by the gilded rookie phenoms that have dominated the highlight reels this year, but a win nonetheless.
My opinion, this is just as good as a gut check loss. A wake up call. This hardens resolve. It props up faith. It lets the competition know that it will have to win all 3 phases of the game to beat them.
That's not an easy thing to do. It forces opponents to dilute their focus when game planning.
Ugly game to watch. Beautiful ugly win.
I found it strange that none of those badass Cowboys teams from my youth had never won ten straight before.
Right?
This team looks so smooth. Like they just assume they're going to win each game. And then they do.
I rewatched the one loss last night, and they were the same way, except they didn't finish drives with 7s. A couple of plays that made the difference were missed because the sun was literally in their eyes. And one bad decision by KW who didn't get out of bounds cost them a shot to win with a long field goal.
I'm hyped for this game.
Romo is retiring. All signs point to him joining Jim Nantz on CBS. I'm pleased. Only thing that would have been better is if he had taken a big pay cut and played back up to Dak for 3 more years or so.
He probably would not have had the networks courting him at the end of that though.
Congrats, #9
I never heard him speak. Is he articulate and insightful? An Al Michaels or Chris Collinsworth kind of guy?
He has a kind of annoying tooth sucking thing he does, but that's coachable.
http://youtu.be/nw1GXGIFtVAI think he made the right call. Hopefully good in the booth.
Is he articulate and insightful ...or... a Chris Collinsworth kind of guy?
Cannot stand him ... jus' sayin'
How many Cowboys are in the booth now? Dang ya got Aikman, Daryl Johnston, even frickin Jimmy Johnson and his hair!
And you've got Murrill Reese.
When I go to Texas next month one of the optional group events is a 90 minute tour of
The Star training facility. I passed on that because I don't want to spend the money for an Eagles shirt I'll never wear again. ;)
https://www.nfl.com/share/10103061-7033-0000-0084-3011a7b6e6e4
damn, son
My buddy hollered "Damn he caught it in the roll of fat on his neck!" ETA: Actually he caught it right in the mullet.
I heard the common taters before the game refer to Prescott's weight, 240 is pretty dang thick for a qb. Didn't realize he was
that big a guy.
When I go to Texas next month one of the optional group events is a 90 minute tour of The Star training facility. I passed on that because I don't want to spend the money for an Eagles shirt I'll never wear again. ;)
I want to go there.
