Another Cellar Question

I can't see the emoticons folks are posting. WTF?

Originally posted by Griff
I can't see the emoticons folks are posting. WTF?

Sucks for you. :rolleyes:

Why I otta!

Well quit sending me bogus referrer information, or soon you won't be able to see IMAGES.

A few days ago I set to stopping people from stealing the Cellar's bandwidth. First thing I found was that there are actually sites out there that are steaing our SMILIES. And using them as their own!

So as of a few days ago, non-cellar.org referrers don't get smilies.

Crap. I'm having the same problem.

I didn't do it.

I swear.

PM me your browser and IP addresses plz if you can't see a smiley in this post.

:eek3:

I just did this and I got my smileys back.

Huh? Its werkin now... Could it be a timer thing? slow dialup coonection...


update: no it ain't

Originally posted by Undertoad
A few days ago I set to stopping people from stealing the Cellar's bandwidth. First thing I found was that there are actually sites out there that are steaing our SMILIES. And using them as their own!

They need to steal 'em fair and square, just like you did ...

oh, or do you mean that they are linking directly to them?

To be fair, I did link to some off-site smilies when I was poking fun at them during the original discussion about turning them off. But I suspect the cellar population didn't put a dent in those servers!!

Yes, other sites have actually specified Cellar URLs pointing to Cellar smilies and are using them as THEIR smilies. Their forum, their users, their messages... and the smilies in them are coming from cellar.org.

Some other sites links to IotDs directly. I figured I would start with the smilies, see who complains. Wolf found her firewall blocking referrers. Referrers are useful information to send along, are not a terrible privacy concern and IMO should not be blocked but it's up to y'all.

i doubt they'll complain, you'd have to be a pretty stupid admin to see you had little ground to stand on.

yeah and the bottom line is that's just the way the Internet works. When you have control of a network you can block anybody you want from accessing it for any reason you want.

For a while you should have just mixed them up for non-cellar referrals. ;)

what the fuck are you guys talking about?

Originally posted by Happy Monkey
For a while you should have just mixed them up for non-cellar referrals. ;)

Yeah. The goatse.cx-image-in-place-of-offsite-image-use thing is a little tired. But, it'd be hilarious if you swapped, say, :) with :(, :flipbird: with :lovers:, :joint: with :rattat:, etc.

It might be tricky to do it without changing the filenames around. I know how I'd work it via PHP, but not Apache. I guess you could just play with the linked files and then use unmodified ones for what we use here, but that sounds like a lot of work.

That's an awesome idea. They wouldn't know what hit 'em, it would be hilarious!

I'm sure there's a way to get it done in Apache through its URL rewriting feature, which can turn any address into another address.

Oh man, that's almost worth turning the smilies back on and encouraging them to use 'em!

awwwcomeon....do it....
With the IOTD you could have a 'hello, i'm a bandwidth stealing asshole, visit cellar.org where I steal all my cool pictures from", do it by directory so save updating it.

If it's PHP for the smilies, make it random, that would really fuck things up.

Undertoad... you MUST do this thing. It is your destiny.

I have turned the smilies back on for the rest of the world, now it'll take a day of logging to see whether they're still using 'em.

You go, UT, go! Confusion to our enemies! I love it!:D :beer: :thumb: :rattat: :angel:

Originally posted by Undertoad
Some other sites links to IotDs directly.

Like that board that Rich the Chucklehead came from.

That was funny...Jim pointed out that someone had linked directly to an IotD, and the knucklehead that did it tried to justify it by saying that UT had stolen the image to begin with.

Fucking idiot.

Originally posted by Undertoad

I'm sure there's a way to get it done in Apache through its URL rewriting feature, which can turn any address into another address.

Dude.

That mod_rewrite stuff is just this side of being voodoo as far as I'm concerned.

You are, like, s00p3r-3|33t!

Signed,
<VirtualHost> Sissy

Hey, half the battle is knowing what you CAN do. The other half is slogging through the documentation.

It looks like a few days of missing the smilies has caused all the referrers except one to go away.

The one remaining is very odd indeed... can't figure it out... they've included not only smilies, but EVERYTHING on an IOTD page. Go here and click on the "next 5" button... it's on the second page at this point. I don't think they did it in bad faith... they ARE linking to the IOTD page, and anyone who links in is OK, IMO.

They probably got the link from Google for the picture and maybe didn't realize they'd get the whole page. Interesting site.:)