This is not porn

YellowBolt • Jun 16, 2004 11:55 pm
www.thisisnotporn.com

And yes, ladies and gentlemen, it really ISN'T porn. It's a strange site, with lots of puzzle solving and shrewd logic. Check it out, try to solve the pages! The first page should be easy enough, but the next starts to get a little hard... then the difficulty escalates. You'll probably need the help of the rest of the Cellar on some of them.

And no, I'm not giving answers, not until you catch up with me that is. :P
Catwoman • Jun 17, 2004 7:24 am
That's bizarre. OK I get the second page you have to cut and paste and it's some kind of picture but can't work out what. Is there any point to this website?
YellowBolt • Jun 17, 2004 10:41 am
I'm not sure. I haven't gotten far enough to find any point to the site yet. From what I've heard the person that made the site is young, but really smart.
russotto • Jun 17, 2004 11:16 am
Alpha hotel sierra papa november whiskey romeo sierra foxtrot romeo? OK, what does that signify? AHSPNWRSFR means nothing to me.
Clodfobble • Jun 17, 2004 11:29 am
Shit, I can't even get past the first page...
jaguar • Jun 17, 2004 11:53 am
well the first page has a riddle hidden the ascii,

Alexander cut me
An oracle predicted me
A future king tied me
Say my name to clear your path

no idea.
glatt • Jun 17, 2004 11:56 am
If that's a riddle the answer is the something knot. It was a knot that coudn't be untied. The person who untied it was supposed to rule the world or something. Alexander the Great cheated and cut it. Then proceeded to rule the world.

Don't remember the name of the knot, but it had one.

I got a D on that paper I wrote in college. Can you tell?
glatt • Jun 17, 2004 11:58 am
Google says it's the Gordian knot.
glatt • Jun 17, 2004 12:11 pm
And Jaguar, that's a good catch, finding the riddle in the ascii text. I was looking for something in the ascii text, but it formats wrong on my screen. I didn't see it until I viewed the source.

My popup killer kept killing a popup for the first page. When I disabled the killer, a popup saying "help I am drowning" appeared. It only displays for a fraction of a second, then closed automatically.

Don't know what any of this means.
Clodfobble • Jun 17, 2004 12:13 pm
Yeah, there's the riddle, and the quickly disappearing "Help I'm drowning!!!" window, and the string of numbers that the audio file keeps repeating... and yet still ASIA AWAITS... :P
jaguar • Jun 17, 2004 12:49 pm
Well unless it's some kind of odd capitalisation or something other than them both being the same (user and pass) we're going to ahve to dig a tad deeper. Maybe the popup represents one half the and riddle the other? Not sure.
YellowBolt • Jun 17, 2004 1:03 pm
You've found everything you need. Now figure out the username and password.;)
jaguar • Jun 17, 2004 1:08 pm
This is annoying me
Does he rules by the sword dies by the sword' have anything to do with this?
russotto • Jun 17, 2004 1:13 pm
Doesn't seem to. Alexander the Great lived by the sword, but died by disease.
jaguar • Jun 17, 2004 1:15 pm
it has to be there for the reason, I know how people who make things like this think, I've made similar little pizzles myself, it means something.

i've tried things like

diebythesword
gordianknot

but no luck.
russotto • Jun 17, 2004 1:21 pm
Checking back -- it says "He who rules by the sword" -- it doesn't have the "dies by the sword" part. Once you get that, you end up at the page with Alpha Hotel etc.
Clodfobble • Jun 17, 2004 1:22 pm
What do you mean "once you get that?"

I've tried every Username/Password combination involving "dies by the sword" and knots that I can think of.
YellowBolt • Jun 17, 2004 1:29 pm
Username: Alexander
Password: Gordian

Should I be making it this easy for you?
perth • Jun 17, 2004 1:29 pm
No!
YellowBolt • Jun 17, 2004 1:54 pm
Okay. I'll shut up now. :)
jaguar • Jun 17, 2004 2:02 pm
there are 3 sets of 3 number groups on the enxt page, my guessing is they are ascii codes (random guess + looking at number range and distribution) but I can't seem to find anything on my mac that'll let me enter them, on a PC just hit hold down alt and type th number, can someone do this?

079 110 032 116 104 101 032 090 117 105 100 101 114 122
101 101 013 010 084 104 097 116 032 111 108 100 032 102 105 115 104 105 110 103
032 115 101 097 044 013 010 084 104 101 032 070 097 101 105 114 105 101 115 032
115 116 111 108 101 044 013 010 084 104 101 032 098 111 121 115 032 111 102 032
077 097 114 107 101 110

084 104 101 032 111 108 100 032 110 097 109 101 032 111 102 032 116 104 101 032 115 105 116 101 032 111 102 032 116 104 101 032 098 111 121 039 115 032 100 105 115 097 112 112 101 097 114 097 110 099 101 032 105 115 032 116 104 101 032 110 097 109 101 032 111 102 032 116 104 101 032 112 108 097 099 101 032 121 111 117 032 109 117 115 116 032 103 111 046

104 101 098 098 097 110 032 111 108 108 097
032 118 111 103 097 108 097 032 110 101 115 116 097 115 032 104 097
103 117 110 110 097 110 032 013 010 104 105 110 097 115 101 032 104
105 040 099 041 032 040 101 041 110 100 097 032 116 104 117 032 013
010 117 117 040 097 116 041 032 117 110 098 105 100 097 040 110 041
032 040 117 117 041 101 032 110 117
YellowBolt • Jun 17, 2004 2:15 pm
Hold down Alt? Holy crap, then I wasted SOOOO much time translating from an ASCII table. :mad:
jaguar • Jun 17, 2004 2:29 pm
I knew I was on the right track ;)

If you really wanted to waste time you could apply some more basic oldschool cryptoanalysis and work it back from there based on letter distribution but it's hard to do it with a sample size that small.
russotto • Jun 17, 2004 2:44 pm
The first two are plain ascii

On the Zuiderzee
That old fishing sea,
The Faeiries stole,
The boys of Marken

The old name of the site of the boy's disappearance is the name of the place you must go.

The third is:

hebban olla vogala nestas hagunnan
hinase hi(c) (e)nda thu
uu(at) unbida(n) (uu)e nu

The Dutch message (De jongen....) is babelfish-translated as "the boy will only die", but I suspect a bad translation.

(The Zuiderzee IS the old name... the new name is IJsselmeer)

(grumble... it's dot-htm, not dot-html)
Happy Monkey • Jun 17, 2004 2:49 pm
Originally posted by YellowBolt
Hold down Alt? Holy crap, then I wasted SOOOO much time translating from an ASCII table. :mad:
Alt, and type all three digits (including leading zeros, if any) of the number on the numeric keypad.
YellowBolt • Jun 17, 2004 2:57 pm
Originally posted by russotto
(The Zuiderzee IS the old name... the new name is IJsselmeer)

(grumble... it's dot-htm, not dot-html)
Yups.
jaguar • Jun 17, 2004 2:58 pm

(The Zuiderzee IS the old name... the new name is IJsselmeer)

(grumble... it's dot-htm, not dot-html)
doesn't work for me.
YellowBolt • Jun 17, 2004 3:00 pm
www.thisisnotporn.com/see/IJsselmeer.htm

That ought to work... I must say, you're all solving these at a lightning-fast pace. It took me and some other people a whole day to get this far.
Beestie • Jun 17, 2004 3:10 pm
I copied that sound from the first page. Its a series of numbers. It took a while to filter out the static but here's what I came up with:

8, 2, 7, 5, 1, 2, 6, 7, 5, 1, 2, 6, 3, 9, 2, 0, 5, 3

No guarantees - best I could do.

Not sure what its good for but maybe it'll help later :confused:
Clodfobble • Jun 17, 2004 3:16 pm
Got the tree sign one pretty fast but I'm stuck at the "in the darkness" page, the CuriosityKilledTheCat prompt.
YellowBolt • Jun 17, 2004 3:17 pm
Let me tell you guys right now, you will NEVER get the password for CuriosityKilledTheCat. Should I tell it to you?
Clodfobble • Jun 17, 2004 3:20 pm
If it's so impossible to get, how did you get it? Surely there's a clue somewhere.
YellowBolt • Jun 17, 2004 3:24 pm
Someone got it off another forum because we spent so long trying to figure it out. There are clues to the answer, but I doubt you'll get it.

Anyways, after this page you'll be caught up with me and most of the rest of the world.
Clodfobble • Jun 17, 2004 3:26 pm
Ok, answer this: are the clues all on that page or are they from previous pages?
YellowBolt • Jun 17, 2004 3:27 pm
That page, and the one before with the building. Those are the only pages which give hints to the answer.
jaguar • Jun 17, 2004 3:31 pm
More bloody ascii messages, can someone translate them for me or just tell me the newer one's address?
glatt • Jun 17, 2004 3:36 pm
cut and paste the ascii codes here
jaguar • Jun 17, 2004 3:45 pm
084 104 101 032 111 108 100 032 110 097 109 101 032 111 102 032 116 104 101 032 115 105 116 101 032 111 102 032 116 104 101 032 098 111 121 039 115 032 100 105 115 097 112 112 101 097 114 097 110 099 101 032 105 115 032 116 104 101 032 110 097 109 101 032 111 102 032 116 104 101 032 112 108 097 099 101 032 121 111 117 032 109 117 115 116 032 103 111 046


119 104 097 116 099 111 109 101 115 097 102 116 101 114 119 101 116 105 114 101 111 102 099 104 097 115 105 110 103 119 105 108 100 115 104 101 101 112 063
Second one is content of some sort for the popup and probably not relevant but better to be safe than sorry.
glatt • Jun 17, 2004 3:55 pm
The first one is a repeat from the earlier page,
and the second one translates to this:

whatcomesafterwetireofchasingwildsheep
Clodfobble • Jun 17, 2004 3:59 pm
Jag, are you past the page with the road and the car driving away from you?
YellowBolt • Jun 17, 2004 4:00 pm
Just click on the left side of where the license plate is.
Clodfobble • Jun 17, 2004 4:07 pm
Mm. Letters. I love letters.
YellowBolt • Jun 17, 2004 4:08 pm
Yes. This is where everyone is stuck. The name of the page, the Hyperciumperfota-whatever, is the scientific name of St. John's Wort. And there appears to be a pictuer of a candle... with the letters JA made obvious to the eye.
glatt • Jun 17, 2004 4:14 pm
OK. I must be dense. I can't figure out how to get past the tree with the ingrown sign.

What were the clues to get past it?

All I found was: whatcomesafterwetireofchasingwildsheep?

Last we heard from Jaguar, he was on the same page.
Clodfobble • Jun 17, 2004 4:14 pm
Have you noticed the spot on the image that causes a popup?
glatt • Jun 17, 2004 4:18 pm
When I mouse over the sign, I get a blank popup. I couldn't figure anything out with that.

Is that what you are talking about?
Clodfobble • Jun 17, 2004 4:21 pm
That's the spot. Look closely at it. (I actually had to rightclick --> save the picture and view it zoomed in a separate image program.)
glatt • Jun 17, 2004 4:24 pm
I saw that before, but didn't think anything of it.

Thanks for the tip.

Somthing HEAD. I'll zoom in.
Clodfobble • Jun 17, 2004 4:56 pm
Hey YellowBolt, something interesting I discovered, probably means nothing, but the pattern of letters starts over at the beginning shortly after the white JA.
YellowBolt • Jun 17, 2004 5:02 pm
Really... I'll keep a note of that. You never know what is useful in here...

If you noticed, on the truck page there's the number 73 in the bottom right corner, and the email link is different.

And on the black letters page, there's nothing interesting in the source except for this:

Zardoz

, hgrzdz mlgvovph wvniz vml Z
glatt • Jun 17, 2004 5:10 pm
Hey Clodfobble,
I can't seem to read what that first word is. Can you tell me what it says?
I've tried FINTH, FIXTH, EIXTH, etc. etc. With the first three letters pretty much illegible for me, there are scores of possibilities.

The first letter looks like a E or a F
Second letter looks like a I or L
Third letter looks like a K X N
Fourth letter is pretty clearly a T
Fifth Letter is pretty clearly a H.

Maybe my Irfanview just isn't up to the task.
YellowBolt • Jun 17, 2004 5:11 pm
Edith.
glatt • Jun 17, 2004 5:14 pm
Thanks. I was going batty.
Happy Monkey • Jun 17, 2004 5:24 pm
Here's Zardoz.

Wierd flick.
Clodfobble • Jun 17, 2004 5:42 pm
Also, the only letters represented on the page are A-J, which would correspond nicely with 0-9, but I've tried a bajillion number-for-letter substitutions trying to pull an ASCII message out of it, and I got nothing.

FWIW, I highly suspect this one is like the IJsselmeer page, where you must type in your new location in the address bar.
YellowBolt • Jun 17, 2004 5:44 pm
Methinks it's a cipher. Since the Z is all by itself, it's safe to assume that Z->A or Z-I, right? Now we've got to figure out the rest.

I wonder if this has anything to do with zardoz?

EDIT: Oh oh oh! Guess what! The only letters used on that page are A thorough J! The first 10 letters of the alphabet!
Clodfobble • Jun 17, 2004 5:52 pm
:) I was just about to post the cipher bit, it reads

"A one armed skeleton awaits" backwards.

edit: it's a straight reverse-correlation, a=z, b=y, c=x, etc. I checked it with some other nonsense from previous pages, the building page read "whereisthesheepman" at the bottom.
YellowBolt • Jun 17, 2004 5:52 pm
Sweet. Thanks for that.
jaguar • Jun 17, 2004 5:57 pm
Not, it's not, handmade ciphers can be remarkably complex.

//-->DsvivznR!
//BAI ADJ AHC BBB BBG BAB BAI ADC AGI AJH BBH BBC BAE BAF BBA
//W74r43o4s74w08t!

Is what we are really lookin at.
There is also this string
Dsvivrhgsvhsvvknzm!


There is a description of the resort as well, i might look in that direction first.
YellowBolt • Jun 17, 2004 6:05 pm
Googling up "one armed skeleton" gives me this interesting book:

Senner's Gold
Helen Corbin
Historian Tom Kollenborn and former attorney general Bob Corbin finally reveal their search for the Superstitions other treasure.

A diary found in an attic trunk told the story of a cowboy-miner, his search for forbidden gold and of the other lives forever changed because of it.

The Mammoth - one of Arizona's richest mines - broken lives - lost treasures and a skeleton in a shallow grave.

About the Author:

After the success of The Curse of the Dutchman's Gold, the lore of the lost treasure compelled the author Corbin to write Senner's little known story. An exciting factional account based on a true story that occurred in the Arizona Territory over a hundred years ago.


The Map found in a faded diary led to a lost camp, a hidden cache
and a one-armed skeleton.

Corbin, winner of awards from the National and Arizona Press Women, is married to Bob Corbin. They reside in Phoenix, Arizona.

I'm gonna investigate about Senner's Gold, hold on.
Clodfobble • Jun 17, 2004 6:09 pm
A google search on "one armed skeleton" reveals two overriding themes:

Q: Why did the one armed skeleton cross the road? A:To get to the second hand shop.

OR

The Lost Dutchman's Mine in Arizona is surrounded by a tale of buried treasure that is guarded by a one armed skeleton.

I tried typing in all the names/locations found on those sites, but none of them went anywhere. Also, Zardoz fed into the cipher is Aziwla, but that yields nothing as well.
Clodfobble • Jun 17, 2004 6:10 pm
Dammit YellowBolt! Great minds think alike eh? :)
YellowBolt • Jun 17, 2004 6:12 pm
I guess so. But I can't find much about Senner's Gold. :(

EDIT: Apparently Zardoz is a wordplay from the Wi(zard) of (Oz). Hmm...
YellowBolt • Jun 18, 2004 10:36 am
There's been no developments about this site over the night; so no answer to it yet... did you notice that at the "YOU CAN'T ESCAPE THE STORM" page that the email address changed to [email]DH@thisisnotporn.com[/email]? It's usually just [email]porn@thisisnotporn.com[/email]. Hmm... Dolphin Hotel?

I'll just redirect you to the foremost page about it.
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=214&topic=14442172

They seem to have the most clues.
Clodfobble • Jun 18, 2004 10:46 am
My husband got into it last night and even wrote a fucking perl script to parse the letters. He's a little nuts.

But YellowBolt, you said that the source code on the black letters page contained

Zardoz

, hgrzdz mlgvovph wvniz vml Z


I can't find that anywhere, where did you come up with this?
YellowBolt • Jun 18, 2004 10:52 am
They're seperate comments. One comment says <!-- Zardoz --> about 1/4 of the way through, and another says <!-- ,hgrzdz mlgvovph wvniz vml Z -->. But why the comma?
YellowBolt • Jun 18, 2004 2:06 pm
Also, the one armed skeleton is supposedly Dick North, some guy you meet in Dance Dance Dance. I read up on it, and if it helps, the main character of the story is chasing some girl named Kiki, who runs into this derelict building. He takes the stairs to the eight floor, enters this empty office, takes more stairs to the ninth floor (I think it's the ninth floor, the author only says 'stairs going up' or was it down?) and enters an 'attic -like' room where there are a bunch of skeletons. One of the skeletons is lying on the bed and has one arm. Dick North in the story only had one arm.


That helps a lot, eh? Say, are Jaguar and Happy Monkey still stuck back at CuriosityKilledTheCat?
Happy Monkey • Jun 18, 2004 2:21 pm
I'm not even working on it. I just knew about Zardoz...
jaguar • Jun 18, 2004 2:31 pm
No I'm up with you guys but I've been busy.

I have access to a few different rudimentry crypto analysis tools, if i get time i'll set them up and run them over what we have but i have little hope, it's too short for most of the basic techniques.

It could be a few things, the gobbeldygook could be simply that, smoke, unlikely but possible. It could be rudimentry crypto of some sort, it could be ctypto over ascii.

The change in email address suggests to me the author wants to know when people get to this point or expects them to get stuck here.
breakingnews • Jun 18, 2004 2:57 pm
I still can't figure out the user/pass for the tree/sign page. I've tried a billion combos.

Y'all are further along. What do I do?

EDIT: Nevermind, I'm an idiot.
Clodfobble • Jun 18, 2004 3:32 pm
the gobbeldygook could be simply that, smoke,

That's my personal feeling on the subject. FWIW, the string of letters actually repeats not just once but a good dozen times.
breakingnews • Jun 18, 2004 4:10 pm
Did anyone figure out what

afg bbb bai bab adc aig baa adc ahd bab bab aef

means? I suspected ASCII, but it just translates to crap.

It's the title of the second page (Asia Awaits).


Not needed for anything so far, but I was intrigued.
breakingnews • Jun 18, 2004 4:32 pm
argh, where is everyone

i can't figure out curiositykilledthecat

fuuuuuck
YellowBolt • Jun 18, 2004 4:35 pm
Well, unless you've read the book "Dance, Dance, Dance", you'll never get CuriosityKilledTheCat.

User: Kipper
Pass: May

The scary thing is, at HyperciumPerforatum, it might also be related to DanceDanceDance. Either that, or Wizard of Oz.
breakingnews • Jun 18, 2004 4:48 pm
Originally posted by YellowBolt
Well, unless you've read the book "Dance, Dance, Dance", you'll never get CuriosityKilledTheCat.

User: Kipper
Pass: May

The scary thing is, at HyperciumPerforatum, it might also be related to DanceDanceDance. Either that, or Wizard of Oz.


How'd you draw that connection? And what are the hints on the page with the pic of the building?
YellowBolt • Jun 18, 2004 4:59 pm
Double-click outside the link, and you'll get a description of the building. Also, in the site tagline for the next page, has a passage with "sheepman" in it. There's also an ISBN somewhere, and with proper searching you'll find the book "dance, dance, dance: a novel" by haruki maruyami (or something like that). It's revealed near the end of the book that the sheepman's real name is Kipper May.
Torrere • Jun 18, 2004 6:46 pm
For the page with the resort building, I looked at the source and found the next link inside of there.
YellowBolt • Jun 19, 2004 2:17 pm
Breaking Development: Now, if you go back to the CuriosityKilledTheCat page, there's another lightbulb in the bottom right corner. It leads to another page, www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/2/toto.htm and has another password (T _ T) titled "Master and Betrayer".

I'm also quite convinced that the next couple of pages will have to do something with the Wizard of Oz... a little while ago, some people went and started entering random page addresses... and they actually got results. They include a page saying "You're wasting your time", "How would you feel if someone picked something off of you", and some strange pictures. Even more strange, those pages have now vanished.

Also, there's a new comment in the source of THEY CAN'T ESCAPE THE STORM...

//ALL IS DEAD AND GONE WHAT WAS LEFT BY THE WOEBEGONE
jaguar • Jun 19, 2004 3:33 pm
This is an interesting game.
I don't think it is gibberish but i'm damned if I know what that lump of stuff is.

That comment in the code was there when I went there.
YellowBolt • Jun 19, 2004 6:08 pm
Hmm. Must have missed it then. This game is frying my brain.

EDIT: clicking on the new login page for "the moth flew in the room when I di4d" gives you a link which shapes into "shovel the good snow", which seems to be a reference to opium, which comes from poppy seeds, which in "The Wizard of Oz" the people fall asleep in a bed of.

I tried typing in the scientific name for poppy in the boxes, but nope, that doesn't work.
sixhundred23 • Aug 9, 2004 4:58 pm
www.thisisnotporn.com (main site)

move your mouse over the oven and click

http://www.thisisnotporn.com/not/not.htm

click Asia Awaits... and login with

Username: Alexander
Pass: Gordian
*case sensitive*

http://www.thisisnotporn.com/see/IJsselmeer.htm

the next page after the truck, dont bother solving it, who cares. Has a sign on a tree with some overgrowth. Read the words on the bottom right to login with:

Username: Edith
Pass: Head

You come to a site with some talking, again, who cares, and theres a buliding. Click on the window with two lights in it to arrive here:

http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/SM.htm#

From here (A moth flew in the room when I di4d) there are four directions, Master and Betrayer, and Cat whatever, Dorothy and Scarecrow (which used to say PHOENIX), and FACE0F, What darkness do we live.

Cat whatever is the furthest light, login with:

Username: Kipper
Pass: May

That'll bring you to a road "THEY CAN'T ESCAPE THE STORM." Blah, theres a roll-over on the oncoming car which says, "A life half lived..." and some music that maybe someone will recognize, as well as the number "13" on the bottom right which is very small. Click on the liscence plate of the car to arrive here:

http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/1/HypericumPerforatum.htm

This is the Hide Your Sorrows page. Hypericum Perforatum is St. Johns Wort. And guess what thats used for? Anti depression (see the connection to Hide your Sorrows?). Anyways, theres tons of letters here, but they only go up to "J." That makes 10 letters. In addition, the letters are repeated 10 or so times. Ctrl-a and paste to see this. The arrangement of the colors and the letters makes an image similar to a lighthouse. Upon examining the source I found this:

!-- wax --
!-- A one armed skeleton --
!-- I am the answer --
!-- find me --
!-- Not smart by half --

If you click the 2nd to last light on the Light/Moth page, you come to The Master and Betrayer login, use this:

username: Xerxes
pass: Demaratus

This brings you to the DONT STRAY FROM THE PATH page, which so far has the only worthwhile reward to getting this far, a cool picture of a tree with a face. There are some sounds similar to a highway next to a field with crows. There is some text in white which reads:

"How would you like it if someone came along and picked something off of you?"

Wizard of Oz, ooo wow :P

Clicking the left eye opens an apparently empty black page, which if you press ctrl-a on and copy your results you get:

HTATDSENETCURDTNRHEOSEOLFH

There are random letters here that when arranged say, "SHOVEL UP THAT GOOD SNOW." One can hold the mouse over these areas/letters and get sentences which are pieces of a paragraph that says:

"No bed. Narrow and cramped. Piles of books. It wasnt the old hotel either. there was barely enough room to walk. It was the sheepman's room. No lights. Walls and ceiling very, old, round, set with one candle in the middle. What ever became of him? Worm-eatten. Must've slept on the floor directly into the saucer. No bath. Boarded up from inside. Any indication. Wrapped in his sheep costume. No closet."

Sheepman is apparently something to note because holding your mouse on a location of the Moth/Light page nets this message:

"'Youbettergo' urged the sheepman, stay here or you'll freeze, but if youneedus were here".

The right eye takes you to a picture of a hallway with rollover poem on it:

"Like one who, on a lonely road,
Doth walk in fear and dread
And, having once turned round, walks on
And turns no more his head,
Because he knows a frightful fiend
Doth close behind him tread."

If you know your poetry this is an excerpt from "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner." Move your mouse to the last line and hold it there, a message pops up quite fast saying "You are not of the path."

On the top of this page it says Philip K. Dicks fortune cookie which is "Deeds done in secret have a way of being found out." Someone said it was it was really Richard Nixon's fortune.

Click on the 3rd from last light, the Dorothy and Scarecrow one and login with:

username: Yuki
password: Gotanda

This brings you to the Robert Silvers page which is a picture of air power windmills from a car window. There are 5 near transparent circles comprised of two arrows. All of them lead to pictures of a fake head of a red haired man. In order from left to right the windows are named:

Piggy Piggy
We've Got Ventriloquists
We Are Connected (this has some relevance to the Moth/Light page)
Who Watches the Watchme...
a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy

From what I can tell these new windows have no leads to other sites. Clicking on the 3rd windmill from the left nets this message in a popup window:

unhssrvelette

Click on the date that the picture of the windmills was taken on and it brings you to the "1 2" site. There is some really annoying sounds here. It looks to be an electrical station or some sort of node. At the bottom of the page there is the text, "There was nothing I could do. He disappeared." And upon coming here, a popup window comes up with the text:

TdAaIeOtFbLhAeTeDaToOsEaRfIiEwTaEa

Clicking on any part of this image brings you back to the Robert Silvers page.

Something to think about, open ALL the sites with sound, and listen to them all at once, its really freaking wierd.

This is all the knowledge I have gathered or uncovered about this site. As far as I know, this site is a work in progress, so it is not meant to be solved yet. So screw the lazy bum that hasnt finished it.
glatt • Aug 9, 2004 5:05 pm
Welcome to the Cellar, sixhundred23.
sixhundred23 • Aug 9, 2004 5:14 pm
I sat in a room forever with refrence books in my library and internet. (internet proving once again more useful).

I would rather learn ninja techniques from sand ninja than work with thisisnotporn anymore. Or eat the finest marmalade with paddington.
Fleff • Aug 10, 2004 10:19 am
Okay, I've got as far as the black page, with all the letters on it, and following Sixhundred23's help I went back to the moth/light bulb page, but I don't know what to do now. The passwords that sixhundred23 gave isn't working, and I definitely typed it in correctly. Any help?
sixhundred23 • Aug 10, 2004 11:35 am
Start with this site:
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/see/IJsselmeer.htm

input these following passwords for these unique password prompt titles:

HeWhoRulesByTheSword

username: Alexander
password: Gordian

WhatALovelyDrapeTheyMake

username: Edith
password: Head

CuriosityKilledTheCat

username: Kipper
password: May

Master and Betrayer

username: Xerxes
password: Demaratus

Dorothy and Scarecrow

username: Yuki
password: Gotanda

I have reloaded the webpages many times, and have inputted all these usernames and passwords and they all work fine.
soundboz • Aug 11, 2004 2:17 pm
I've spent all day trying to solve this...

I actually read "DANCE DANCE DANCE" so I got the kipper and may part pretty easy...

I got the rest part and so far I've gotten up to the jail cell thing all by myself...

I do not, however, get the redhead guy...

And there's also another link on the moth site.

There must be something we're missing...

But I've tried decoding the scrambled message with a cipher (A=Z, B=Y...), no such luck.

This guy must be either a.) really creative, b.) just got dumb luck...
sixhundred23 • Aug 11, 2004 10:36 pm
The thing is, when you click on the circles on the Silvers page, you get popup windows, you are probably running a popup blocker or something because I am at the page and I am opening the red headed manequin head right this second.
soundboz • Aug 12, 2004 1:23 pm
I think that he changed it recently

Yesterday I couldn't get to the yuki gotanda or xerxus demaratus pages...

*goes back to solving*
lethologica • Aug 16, 2004 1:43 am
hi, i'm new.
i did some research on the fake redhead head. the filenames of the images have the name "david hanson" in them; i googled him and found these:

http://www.portfolios.com/profile.html?MyUrl=DavidHanson
http://iiae.utdallas.edu/projects/hanson.htm

hanson is a sculptor/roboticist. the head is one of his pieces.
the first link is a profile of him; click on the first thumbnail, the head is among the pieces there.
the second link details the project that the head was involved in; there are seven photos of the head linked at the bottom, five of which we know and love from TINP.

beyond this, i've got nothing.

also:
-could someone explain how we got yuki gotanda? google isn't being good to me.
-could someone explain the black letters page? does the shape of the visible letters have any significance?


oh, almost forgot.
in the sky on the third page, /see/TimeFlows.htm (i know, long time ago) will consistently flash a series of 3 digit alt codes. taking the image into animation shop to freeze the frame, i decoded those alt codes and got this:

1590521471 fourth word add s
0060254920 fifth word
0970042809 last word

0679731725 second word minus s
0894803204 fourth word
0736048146 first word

0785265392 first word
0970917902 eight word
1566912431 third word minus s

0785265392 first word
0345406141 third word

1931615039 Second word, First word minus S
0425120058 fourth word, fifth word
0687371376 fourth word, second word

0967518822 fourth word, first word
0151010196 first word
0471225347 first word, ninth word
0517886901 first word, second word

...verbatim. i probably made an error decoding the numerical portions, knowing me.
but, i dont know what to do (or to have done) with this either.
Darkman • Aug 16, 2004 10:05 pm
Probably old news to most of you, here goes anyway.

Hints about: the sheepman, Kiki, Yuki, Gotanda, Kipper, A one armed skeleton, Shovel that good snow and some more, are from the book "Dance dance dance"

It's online here.

Here are some decoded hints also referring to "Dance dance dance"

DsvivznR! = Where am I ?
BAI ADJ AHC BBB BBG BAB BAI ADC AGI AJH BBH BBC BAE BAF BBA = l'Hotel Dauphin
W74r43o4s74w08t! = Where does he wait ?
Dsvivrhgsvhsvvknzm! = Where's the sheepman ?

The following I've taken from another site, regarding the password for:

"FACE0F, What darkness do we live"
Username:
Password:

The site this leads to has the following no. in the URL: 1129524974645525182

Go this site: Decimal to Hex,

paste the no. and you'll get this for Hex: FACE0FADEADBA80.

Maybe this helps you.
Nightmarish • Aug 21, 2004 8:27 pm
Is this thread dead? I should hope not. It's the reason I joined the Cellar..in fact, it's how I came accross it. I was actually Googling something from TINP, and one of the results was some page in this thread. In any case, you guys are a damn lot brighter than the people on a certain other forum... Heh, anyways, no one seems to have mentioned the text above the tree (with the face), and the "Ouch. Stop that." pop-up on the "A moth flew in..." page. Other than that, it seems I know nothing that you don't...
lethologica • Aug 21, 2004 8:37 pm
night, the tree text is "How would you like it if someone came along and picked something off of you?" and has already been mentioned, and i think we've all individually decided that that popup is irrelevant.
however, the thread does seem to have lost some blood as our main cogs have stopped spinning....
YellowBolt • Aug 22, 2004 1:01 am
I'm kinda surprised this thread is still alive, somewhat... and that there's so much more progress made in my absence...

My brain melted from trying to solve all of this. Now I can't even bring myself to finish my summer break homework anymore. :D
BornAZombie • Aug 22, 2004 3:09 am
i just really cant wait to see what this is all leading to....

it better be pretty damn good
Beowulf5 • Aug 22, 2004 8:02 am
for those still interested and still looking for the password for the first light on the 4 lights page.

user: THEDEADBABE
pass: Alone

try that. i believe that is correct.
Nightmarish • Aug 22, 2004 12:03 pm
I ordered Dance Dance Dance at chapters.indigo.ca - thousands of books at your fingertips, all for the price they're sold in stores; plus, shipping and handling. Wh00t.
Nightmarish • Aug 22, 2004 12:05 pm
In any case, I'm glad it isn't completely dead. Out of curiosity, have you guys seen the thisisnotporn forum? The official one? Not that it matters, really..
Nightmarish • Aug 22, 2004 12:06 pm
I'm going on vacation, so.. see you guys in a week. I'll try that password, out of curiosity, before I go..
Nightmarish • Aug 22, 2004 12:09 pm
Was it for "FACE0F, What darkness do we live"? If so, it en't working for me...
BornAZombie • Aug 22, 2004 1:06 pm
dance dance dance is a great book. and thisisnotporn references the book ALOT, as we've probably already established. :|
Beowulf5 • Aug 23, 2004 5:47 am
hmm if that didnt work, try this. : ADEADBABE
Alone

username must be all caps.i tested it again and it works. yes, it is for FACE0F
BornAZombie • Aug 24, 2004 3:39 am
so now where are we...

A devil with 5 fingers
when you click somewhere we're left with another scrambled message

LKAwNcTsAoRkOtOaDoTu

and

there are 3 objects on the page.

one says "there is nothing i could do, he had disappeared" and the random text.
the other 2 say 1 and 2 upon clicking
if you checkthe image names of these 3 they say "cursed am i"


did we do this already? heh
Beowulf5 • Aug 24, 2004 5:41 am
i feel like were running around in circles. it all seems to tie together to one mystery. maybe we can run back through all of the different sites and try to see if they tie together in some way.

also, a compilation of usernames and passwords might help for newcommers who wish to help.
Undertoad • Aug 24, 2004 7:40 am
Any of you people visit any other thread in this place?
teh_camel • Aug 24, 2004 6:18 pm
Ok I've been on this for a bit so I will post so the compilation of usernames/passwords for all the newcomers as BeoWulf suggested...

HeWhoRulesByTheSword

username: Alexander
password: Gordian

WhatALovelyDrapeTheyMake

username: Edith
password: Head

CuriosityKilledTheCat

username: Kipper
password: May

Master and Betrayer

username: Xerxes
password: Demaratus

Dorothy and Scarecrow

username: Yuki
password: Gotanda

FACE0F

username: ADEADBABE
password: Alone

Now just like everyone else, despite my best Googling.. I am stuck. :/
perth • Aug 24, 2004 6:34 pm
Undertoad wrote:
Any of you people visit any other thread in this place?

We're fourth on the list for Google search "This is not porn" so I wonder how many people are here as an effect of that?
Nightmarish • Aug 25, 2004 9:39 pm
perth wrote:
We're fourth on the list for Google search "This is not porn" so I wonder how many people are here as an effect of that?


Depends on what you search for; and to Toad, yes, I have visited other threads. I just.. er... havent posted in them.. I mean, I donèt always have someting to say, eh... wow, this computer has è instead of apostrophes... yes, I am on vacation; in Québec, actually. Stupid French computer...
perth • Aug 25, 2004 11:40 pm
It's not really a "depends" sort of thing. At the time of my previous posting, the Cellar was number four. Now we're number two. We are merely at six with "whale penis", so Sycamore obviously has more work to do.
teh_camel • Aug 26, 2004 10:58 pm
well this topic is pretty much dead. guess everyone gave up eh?
BornAZombie • Aug 27, 2004 2:55 am
:'(
teh_camel • Aug 27, 2004 10:42 pm
I know.. I was so looking forward to finally figuring this thing out. I've tried on my own, but I'm too stupid. lol Actually I think he may need to update.. I swear there is just nowhere to go from here...
Nightmarish • Sep 1, 2004 1:56 am
Perhaps a URL change is needed?
bella_luna@hotmail.c • Sep 4, 2004 2:36 pm
Hi all, I am new to the group, just call me Bella. Has anyone noticed the message "Two reddened eyes." on the Devil with Five Fingers page? I think it may have something to do with the David Hanson page that has the partial robotic pics of the model...there are two pics with red eyes. I can't figure out how it links though...HELP!!!! I am so hooked on this puzzle, thanks to an old friend of mine. I really don't want to give up on this thing...any comments?
sphairosis • Sep 4, 2004 2:59 pm
I'm sure I'm not the first to have checked this out, but I do certainly see this as relative. One very common theme was water and death. 'Help, I'm drowning.' 'The boy dies alone.' I'm paraphrasing as I'm actually late for work, but you get the general idea? I used the names from the river, and searched with 'tragedy,' and 'boy.'

Fifty years before this game was made, there was a horrible flood at the river. There was major loss of life, including children. And while I certainly don't know how that plays into everything, I thought it might be a clue.

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/yourenv/426221/426336/?version=1&lang3=_e

I don't know anything about coding or markup, really, so I'm hoping that was put in correctly.
bella_luna@hotmail.c • Sep 8, 2004 12:46 am
Found another clue on the source page for the Devil with 5 Fingers....Where is she? TELL ME? Which may explain the Not Here! Popups.. I don't know where to go from here...has anyone gotten any farther?
BornAZombie • Sep 10, 2004 11:13 pm
i think this thread is dead

no one will ever know how thisisnotporn will end
YellowBolt • Sep 11, 2004 9:37 pm
IF it'll end. The kid keeps adding new stuff :(
MiniMoose • Sep 14, 2004 12:57 am
I just noticed on the A moth flew in the room when i di4d. If you click the second light theres a new realm called "Frankenstein now, When does he stand in darkness of Paradise?" That wasnt there when i looked about 2 days ago.
EveCyber • Sep 17, 2004 5:17 am
Hey guys

I am new and I also have some news about TINP

1. Did you notice that the first page changed? There is a new line of text below the picture (which my browser currently does not show)

2. About that Frankenstein thing: In the source it say "THE POET IS DEAD" which is a poem by William Everson. He died in St. Cruz and this might be of importance.

3. I also think that whoever made this game is still working on it and that person or those persons put a lot of work into it, so it will lead somewhere and I wanna find out. If there are other people not willing to give up that then let's work together and try figuering this thing out.
Gaoler • Sep 17, 2004 12:41 pm
I'm new here to the board, kinda. I've been using some of you folks ideas to navigate the page. So hello and thanks. However let me tell you something that happened to me this morning. I got an email from the webmaster..... With a phone number and another riddle. It says :

Would you call a number if it was given to you by a stranger?

What if you knew him?

What if knowing made him all the stranger?

Give it a call if you want answers.

Sam :3eye:
Nightmarish • Sep 18, 2004 5:16 pm
There are two new pop-ups on the "DEVIL WITH 5 FINGERS" page: one that says "poetry@_2" and another that reads "Gnash@_1".

Also, the pop-up that was there before has been added to:

"There was nothing I could do. He had disappeared.

I persecute yellower thought@

LkAwNcTsAoRkOtOaDoTu"

(That second line is new.)
Nightmarish • Sep 18, 2004 6:20 pm
Gaoler wrote:
I'm new here to the board, kinda. I've been using some of you folks ideas to navigate the page. So hello and thanks. However let me tell you something that happened to me this morning. I got an email from the webmaster..... With a phone number and another riddle. It says :

Would you call a number if it was given to you by a stranger?

What if you knew him?

What if knowing made him all the stranger?

Give it a call if you want answers.
Sounds interesting; think you could forward that to me, if you please?
Beowulf5 • Sep 19, 2004 12:28 am
hmm. interesting indeed. why not give him a call and post the convo here.
EveCyber • Sep 19, 2004 11:27 am
@Gaola: How did the webmaster get ur e-mail? Through the forum? @ Nightmarish: What does this mean? How do you decode it? LkAwNcTsAoRkOtOaDoTu I tried to figure out what this means, but I have no clue.
BornAZombie • Sep 19, 2004 1:46 pm
call it
paranoia of people • Sep 19, 2004 3:37 pm
hi, whats the webmasters e-mail address? and did u call the #
dorkgirl • Sep 19, 2004 5:51 pm
I also got the email. I think the only place he could have got my address from was the TINP forums. I'm a Brit, but trying to talk an American friend into ringing it *grin*
tomassetti13 • Sep 19, 2004 6:49 pm
You guys are slow. TinP has changed the message already and you missed a major hint. Thus inorder for you guys to catch-up i am gonna give you a nice little "Un-Scramble" puzzle.

First one (may be changed soon)
01101000011101000111010001110000001110100010
11110010111101110111011101110111011100101110
01110001011100110110101101100101011110100110
00010110100101101001011101010110111001100100
01101100001011100110001001100100011101000110
11110111000001110011001011100110001101101111
01101101001011110110000101101100011110000110
01010110111001101100011000110111010001100001
00101110011101110110000101101101


and lucky numba 2:
0110100001110100011101000111000000111010001011
1100101111011101110111011101110111001011100111
0001011100110110101101100101011110100110000101
1010010110100101110101011011100110010001101100
0010111001100010011001000111010001101111011100
0001110011001011100110001101101111011011010010
1111011000010110110001111000011001010110111001
1011000110001101110100011000010010111001110111
0110000101101101

Good luck ;)

The URL's are also scrambled up. Such the case of:

larcelr.gor

Once again, good luck

Edit:

I was lead that i F*cked up the example it should be

http://www.larcel.gor
tomassetti13 • Sep 20, 2004 2:14 am
In the fairness of fun, Another riddle which may help some people:

omruf.hetmagetreacros.moc ym froplie no 'Eric T". Tacol is het yaw orf nifdngi tish noe.
BornAZombie • Sep 21, 2004 12:38 am
waht?
tomassetti13 • Sep 21, 2004 2:50 am
lol words of wisdom

Thus a smaller hint - the first one translated into form 2: (actually decided to do this cause i kinda pasted the same URL twice up there :P)

http://www.qskezaiiundl.bdtops.com/honpeeaclvlicoe.mp3
Taaryn • Sep 21, 2004 8:35 pm
one person even says: Personally He might be a pshyco, the countdown date he has may be the day he's gonna kill that boy he keeps talking about. The source code for the page with the countdown repeats the statement, "save the boy". He might be one of those serial killers that likes to make his murders a riddle. You never know.
teh_camel • Sep 24, 2004 1:43 pm
cool i'll call it, hook me up. i need to make new friends
wolf • Sep 24, 2004 10:06 pm
I think this took a sharp left at surreal and ended up at fucking weird.
perth • Sep 24, 2004 10:49 pm
Is it okay if I tell all these one-post-wonders to shut the fuck up?
wolf • Sep 24, 2004 10:52 pm
It's been kind of sociologically interesting to watch. But yeah, they need a fucking life.
Redneck • Sep 25, 2004 12:47 am
Alright, has anyone figured out the username and password for the "Frankenstein now, Where does he stand in the darkness of Paradise?" login you get when you click on the second light from the top in the "A moth flew in the room when I di4d" room?
CornStar • Sep 28, 2004 9:53 pm
Robert Silvers is the guy that invented photomosaics - i wonder if you put all the pics together they'll make something? Pretty weird that they're divided into different gifs...just a thought.
Big Joe • Sep 30, 2004 2:20 pm
This website is a plauge apon my life :(
I keep trying to figure it out, but its endlessly intricate and continuously changes. For my own reasons, to make it easier, I have made a "Map" of the progress thus far. The first part, the obvious steps I needed no "google" assitance form, can be seen at:
(( The first picture below ))
Now, the tough part. DO NOTICE that on the page containing the windmill, marked by the blue dot, the window message you get has CHANGED. I beleive this is an asian laguage (maybe korean?) pronounced by english letters. In this, it CANNOT be translated through babelfish nor any other translators, someone who speaks that laguage would have to read it. Passwords and Usernames are marked.
(( The Second Picture Below ))
Also notice the orange dot, the tree with eyes, has changed to a new subpage, that contains a riddle:

Like one who, on a lonely road,
doth walk in fear an dread,
and, having once turned round walks on,
and turns no more his head,
because he knows a frightful fiend,
doth close behind him tread.

This poem, The Rime of the Ainchent Mariner, is made refrenced to in both dracula and frankenstinen ,(http://frankenstein.monstrous.com/frankenstein_and_dracula.htm)
which of course is used in the first linked light in the hallway page.
Does this poem contain the answer to the first light's username and password?
What is the significance?

This thing has plagued me too long to give up. Look into it, and see if you can make any conclusions. I have no idea what this forum is about, I know only that some of you might know :D
dr.gonzo • Oct 1, 2004 12:40 pm
I received the following email from thisisnotporn,





1-XXX-XXX-XXXX

Would you call a number if it was given to you by a stranger?

What if you knew him?

What if knowing made him all the stranger?

Give it a call if you want answers.



I'm guessing this is an american number as when i try to ring it from my mobile in england it wont connect. either that or its not a phone number at all, it may just be another clue.
glatt • Oct 1, 2004 1:09 pm
No listing was found for the phone number you've entered.
The phone number "(XXX) XXX-XXXX" is a Portage, IN based phone number and the registered carrier is Southwestern Bell Mobile Systems, Llc - Il. Additional information for this number is not available. Please read our Search Tips below for more information.


XXX-XXX-XXXX (deleted by request)
glatt • Oct 1, 2004 1:18 pm
I called that number, just for kicks. I listened to the garbled message for a minute or so, but I could only understand every tenth word or so. The voice is male, and it's electronically garbled. The one thing I could pick out that I understood is the guy talks about "dance dance dance." Sorry, but to try to decipher more is just too much effort for a lazy guy like me.

You should be able to call that number, even from England. You just need to dial the international code for USA first. I don't know how long the message is.
Big Joe • Oct 1, 2004 2:04 pm
First:
"Klizzie-YazziGahWol-La-CheeNa-as-tso-si BeDzehKlizzieNesh-cheeWol-La-CheeLinMoasi BeWol-La-CheeLin Wol-La-CheeDzehGahWol-La-Chee DzehLinThan-Zie"
Now:
"Than-ZieNesh-cheeDzehGahDzehMa-eMa-eTKinBe DibehWol-La-CheeGloe-Ih Than-ZieLinKlizzieTKinNesh-chee Ma-eNe-as-jah DibehDibehDzehNesh-cheeKlizzie-YazziGahWol-La-CheeBe DzehLinThan-Zie Nesh-cheeDzehA-Ken-Di-GliniDzeh"

I found this one, also a new update, from the subpage with the head pictures (along the right side of the page, its a link to a picture of a boiler room or something. This seems to be the same kind of laguage... WHAT ARE THESE???

UPDATE:
"DzehDibeh-YazziMa-eMa-eNo-Da-InLinDibeh" - This is from the same page as the first gibberish.
Redneck • Oct 2, 2004 3:41 pm
I found this link http://www.mblog.com/aiknowledge/cat_cybernetics.html.

It has both a short statement on David Hanson and one on Frankenstein which say's,

"MARY SHELLEY’S Dr Victor Frankenstein, in her 1818 Frankenstein: Or The Modern Prometheus, played god in trying to create life." Could Prometheus be the user name for "Frankenstein now"?

And what would the password be? I have tried "Immortality, Helpless, Wretched, and Lost" all found at:
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/frankenstein/frank_modern_2.html
under "Paradise Lost"
SilverPhoenix • Oct 3, 2004 2:48 pm
Start by Googling "Nesh-chee". This should lead to a (partial) breakthrough.
Big Joe • Oct 3, 2004 8:31 pm
Big Joe wrote:
First:
"Klizzie-YazziGahWol-La-CheeNa-as-tso-si BeDzehKlizzieNesh-cheeWol-La-CheeLinMoasi BeWol-La-CheeLin Wol-La-CheeDzehGahWol-La-Chee DzehLinThan-Zie"

"Than-ZieNesh-cheeDzehGahDzehMa-eMa-eTKinBe DibehWol-La-CheeGloe-Ih Than-ZieLinKlizzieTKinNesh-chee Ma-eNe-as-jah DibehDibehDzehNesh-cheeKlizzie-YazziGahWol-La-CheeBe DzehLinThan-Zie Nesh-cheeDzehA-Ken-Di-GliniDzeh"

"DzehDibeh-YazziMa-eMa-eNo-Da-InLinDibeh"


OK- this is NAVAJO. This guy is weird, come on, navajo? Anyways, Ive gotten farther and translated the stuff from earlier:

k r a o d e g n a h c d a h a h e r e h t
Backwards: therehahadchangedoark
(?)

t n e r e f i d s a w t h g l n f o s s e n k r a d e h t n e v e
Backwards: eventhedarknessofnightwasdiferent
(even the darkness of night was diferent)

e l f f u h s
Backwards:shuffle
(...shuffle...)

I might have made a mistake on the first one, because I cant spell anything out of it, just a few words. as for the second, "even the darkness of night was different"... I have no idea. and shuffle? Wow, this is getting hard, back to google! :D
Redneck • Oct 4, 2004 2:04 am
That first message say's "The area had changed mark"
Big Joe • Oct 4, 2004 10:38 am
Even the darkness of night was different
The area had changed mark
Shuffle

.... WTF??? :confused:
SilverPhoenix • Oct 4, 2004 5:33 pm
Hint: you missed one of the Navajo-coded messages.
Redneck • Oct 4, 2004 7:16 pm
Nesh-cheeDzehA-Ken-Di-GliniGahNe-as-jahThan-ZieDibehDzehKlizzie
DibehTkin
TkinDzehNa-as-tso-si

nevrotseg si iem

Backwards: mei is gestorven

Which means "May has died"

Thanks SilverPhoenix for pointing that out!

Also, there is a new room now, the very top light in the moth room links to,
http://thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/6/FindTheDate.htm
the login question is:
Audition, Traveling Salesman
SilverPhoenix • Oct 4, 2004 9:56 pm
Correction, then. Two of the messages. (one is only 3 decoded letters)
Redneck • Oct 4, 2004 11:33 pm
Thanks again SilverPhoenix!

Ok, I got the last one now. now we have...

Even the darkness of night was different
The area had changed mark
Shuffle
Mei is gestorven (Dutch for "May has died")
gif

...hmm, I'm still lost.
SilverPhoenix • Oct 5, 2004 1:49 am
I'll point you at Dance Dance Dance, with the comment that what you can't find there should lead to your next step, and go back to perma-lurking.
Sedicius • Oct 5, 2004 12:11 pm
[FONT=Arial]undefined[/FONT] Hey everyone, this puzzle has to fried my brain as well and I would like to assist you in solving it =), Ive noticed that on the "A moth flew in the room when I di4d" page, The first light now has an entrance, a Username and Password deal, it reads, Audition, Traveling Salesman, and from those five heads, the one that reads "a fellow of infinite jest...etc..." I googled up something on Del Close, apparently he was a compedian, that could tie together with auditioning, just a thought, lets solve this beast! :D
-Spyke Sedicius
Mr. Ears • Oct 5, 2004 2:07 pm
Hey i am new too... So.. yea... I got something to add.. about the little boy... On the... Scandinavian truck page
Patients.......079 110 032 116 104 101 032 090 117 105 100 101 114 122
101 101 013 010 084 104 097 116 032 111 108 100 032 102 105 115 104 105 110 103
032 115 101 097 044 013 010 084 104 101 032 070 097 101 105 114 105 101 115 032
115 116 111 108 101 044 013 010 084 104 101 032 098 111 121 115 032 111 102 032
077 097 114 107 101 110
On the ZuiderzeeThat old fishing sea,TheFaeiries stole,The boys of Marken
not quite sure if that is right...
and
084 104 101 032 111 108 100 032 110 097 109 101 032 111 102 032 116 104 101 032 115 105 116 101 032 111 102 032 116 104 101 032 098 111 121 039 115 032 100 105 115 097 112 112 101 097 114 097 110 099 101 032 105 115 032 116 104 101 032 110 097 109 101 032 111 102 032 116 104 101 032 112 108 097 099 101 032 121 111 117 032 109 117 115 116 032 103 111 046
The old name of the site of the boy's disappearance is the name of the place you must go.
that is kinda strange... and then it says Injure sweet, helmless mirth. Is the lush merriment jewels.
and finally
104 101 098 098 097 110 032 111 108 108 097 <br>
032 118 111 103 097 108 097 032 110 101 115 116 097 115 032 104 097 <br>
103 117 110 110 097 110 032 013 010 104 105 110 097 115 101 032 104 <br>
105 040 099 041 032 040 101 041 110 100 097 032 116 104 117 032 013 <br>
010 117 117 040 097 116 041 032 117 110 098 105 100 097 040 110 041 <br>
032 040 117 117 041 101 032 110 117
hebban olla vogala nestas hagunnan hinase hi(c)e)nda thu uu(at) unbida(n) (uu)e nu pretty sure those are right... but on the last one i was kinda in a hurry.. so yea... not sure if this has been covered or not.. but there ya go.. and i got some more info... if you view the source code on the help i am drowning page then it says it was created by Dende Phish... that might help... and if anyone is a serious hacker than you probably could go and find out from the internet source thing where he started his website and see his info... not sure if that makes sense or not...
and then with that hebban olla crap it has that on the help i am drowning page too... so there ya go... phew... finally done...

dang... i got more... i will probably get more... just in a while...i have to go soon... i hate school...
Found this in the source of the tree... i am very fast at doin that alt plus the numbers... so yea...i have a lot of spare time on my hands...

119 104 097 116 099 111 109 101 115 097 102 116 101 114 119 101 116 105 114 101 111 102 099 104 097 115 105 110 103 119 105 108 100 115 104 101 101 112 063

what comes after we tire of chasing wild sheep?
that was all one word... so i decided to space it... i am becoming very fluent in the alt and number combo...

Dolphin Hotel thingy... it said this in the source... i am a little behind on the source thing since you guys have caught up with him... so yea... sorry if it is a little late in coming...
ALL IS DEAD AND GONE WHAT WAS LEFT BY THE WOEBEGONE

//-->DsvivznR!
//BAI ADJ AHC BBB BBG BAB BAI ADC AGI AJH BBH BBC BAE BAF BBA
//W74r43o4s74w08t!
this just looks suspicious... and i would like to let you guys know that the source code is very very interesting to look at... it has all this nice information... like that javasoft or something is the webhoster... so yea... this will hopefully be my last edit...
SilverPhoenix • Oct 5, 2004 3:49 pm
The old name of the site of the boy's disappearance is the name of the place you must go.
that is kinda strange... and then it says Injure sweet, helmless mirth. Is the lush merriment jewels.


"Injure sweet, helmless mirth" and "Is the lush merriment jewels" are anagrams of each other, as well as a major clue to the answer for the truck page.
Mr. Ears • Oct 5, 2004 4:26 pm
oh.... didnt quite know that... so... my friend is calling me incompetent cuz i use three periods at the end of all my sentences... o well... so... was any of that helpful???
perth • Oct 5, 2004 4:39 pm
Mr. Ears wrote:
so... my friend is calling me incompetent cuz i use three periods at the end of all my sentences...

Yeah, he's probably right. Three periods is an ellipsis, which has a
completely different usage than a single period.
Sedicius • Oct 5, 2004 4:43 pm
I had also noticed that on the page where it says "We Face Each Other Across A Small Table" the small links that you are able to click on that dont do anything, however they are outlined with letters, I hadent noticed this on my home computer, because it doesnt outline the link when I click it, but at the school computers, who run windows 98, its quite noticable, Im not sure if htis has been noticed yet, but it may be another clue, the letters that I can decypher are: L E V O H O O G T A W O N, thats all I could get, may be more hidden, the order that I listed them in are from the top left, and went left, as if you would read it normally, the strange thing is that they all seemed to be backwards, sorry if im double posting this, this has to mean something, he wouldent do this on accident or for kicks.
-Spyke
Redneck • Oct 5, 2004 7:21 pm
Alright I have found some more, the gif and shuffle go together. it's a program called gifshuffle. I used it to look at the gif images in the pages but the only ones that had a message in them are the "I.gif", "Am.gif", "cursed.gif", and "diablo.gif" images.
Three of these images point to new urls. They are:

http://thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/4/Moluccas.htm - "Moluccas.htm" found in am.gif
http://thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/4/Sorrows%20of%20Werter.htm - "Sorrows of Werter.htm" found in I.gif
http://thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/4/Plutarch's%20lives.htm - "Plutarch's lives.htm" found in cursed.gif

Note: The links above are easier to view with firefox than with IE as firefox does not let them show upside and backwards.

The images are made to be a little are to read, one of them changes as you move the mouse over it. These should help with the frankenstein login.

Here is what all the images say:

"Cursed, Cursed Creator!
Why did I live?
Why, in that instant,
did I not extinguish
the spark
of existence which
you had so wantonly bestowed?"
------------------------------------------------
"His soul is as hellish as his form,
full of treachery and fiendlike malice.
Hear him not; call on the manes"
(Mouse over image to read)
"A mingled form, where two strange
shapes combined,
And different natures, bull and man,
were joined."
------------------------------------------------
Did I request thee, Maker, from my clay
To mould Me man? Did I solicit thee
From darkness to promote me?

Also the Diablo.gif image had "The french man in a box." hidden in it.
Mr. Ears • Oct 5, 2004 7:39 pm
Ummm... You should view the source for the first one. It might have something. It has the 3 digit numbers and is pretty much a bunch of gibberish. It is really long and i dont feel like doing it... My friend (sedicious) believes the username to be Prometheus... Since he created man... goes with the first one... And for the second part, the darkness of paradise... There are three kingdoms of glory... The last which is not a kingdom is called Perdition... that might be it... if not try Telestial.. and it is kind of a habit for me to use three periods... i cant help it...

edit: k... the Perdition and telestial stuff didnt work... you guys may wanna try it... i may have spelled it wrong... I am still pretty sure the username is Prometheus... it may be the password... and Perdition might be the username... o well....

edit again: k.. umm... one of those pics redneck had had the same name as a pop up on the one with the road and the license plate... a life half lived... i believe that one is about a little girl... and if you click around some more it says reddened eyes... or not here... i believe that it says find her to in the source... and i think that means that she was drowned and you were to late... cuz of the reddened eyes-drowned and a life half lived which means she died... just thinkin though... so yea and silver phoenix.... i think it is you... but why are you a mod at the TINP forums??? i saw your name... and you were a mod... and you were saying that you werent the dude who made it... and that you were flattered or something... maybe you are him and that you are watching over us making sure we dont figure everything out until it is too late and you like kill someone or something... but then again i could just be paranoid...
Redneck • Oct 5, 2004 8:04 pm
Here's what I got out of it:

TR XYZ XQV VZV UXZ VZR RUV RZR QWT SYZ YYRR YWWX YWYW -YVSZ YUTZ YWVV YRYQ YRQZ XZQZ YWTZ XUTX XXXX XWQX YSZV XVXU XSZV XZUX XQVZ WYQZ XZVZ WSRX WXWX WVWX XWYX VXSZ WTWT WRVR XUZR WQWQ XTZZ -WZSU VXVX VVSX -VVZZ VSXU -VSWR UZST UZVZ UWQZ UXUZ VXRV WQZZ UUTU UQVZ WSVZ URRZ UURT URUR TYWT UZVZ TUXS TUYZ TQWZ VQQX TUTU -TVZX SSZU -SXZR TTQW SXRZ UUWR SXSX RWQU STQT -SVXU SQZV SSSS SRSR TTWT RUTZ RUZU QZXZ TVSV RVRV QSSU RQVV -URXQ QYUX RQRQ QZQZ TRXU QQWT QSTU YYVTR YYUQZ YZZRZ QSQS RYWV YZXQT YYSZZ YYTYU YZTZR RTUX YYYXR YYZXU YYTTZ SZTX YZQZR YZR

I also believed the username to be prometheus but I have yet to find any passwords to work with it.
Mr. Ears • Oct 5, 2004 8:08 pm
ummm... that is strange... it may just be the tree music i am listening to but that is the last ten letters of the alphabet... like in the lighthouse... the first ten letters... coincidence??? i think not...


edit: btw on the hotel i believe, they say whisky, foxtrot... sedicious thinks that is military code... a friend studied it and said that each word uses the first letter... to spell something out... not sure if it was already mentioned or not... but just tryin to help.. :biggrin:
Redneck • Oct 5, 2004 9:00 pm
Ok by changing the letters to numbers with (Z=0, Y=1, X=3...Q=9) I got this:

68 210 294 404 520 408 854 808 936 710 1188 1332 1313 -1470 1560 1344 1819 1890 2090 1360 2562 2222 2392 1704 2425 2704 2052 2940 3190 2040 3782 3232 3432 2312 4270 3636 3848 2508 3939 2600 -3075 4242 4472 -4400 4725 -4738 5076 5040 5390 5250 4284 3900 5565 5940 3740 5880 5586 5858 6136 5040 6527 6510 6930 4992 6565 -6402 7705 -7208 6693 7280 5538 7272 8395 7696 -7425 7904 7777 7878 6636 8560 8505 9020 6474 8484 9775 8944 -5829 9152 8989 9090 6825 9936 9765 11468 11590 10080 9797 8134 10296 11700 11615 10608 8652 11128 11025 11660 7062 10908 108

What is with the hyphens this time though? I have a feeling it might be more of that navajo stuff when I get it all translated.

EDIT: Ok , I got it. All of those numbers above are divided like this...
68/1 210/2 294/3 404/4 520/5 408/6 ....and so on dividing the next number by one number higher each time. When you finish that you get this:

68 105 98 101 104 68 122 101 104 71 108 111 101 - 105 104 84 107 105 110 68 122 101 104 71 97 104 76 105 110 68 122 101 104 68 122 101 104 66 101 65 - 75 101 104 - 100 105 103 108 105 110 105 84 75 105 110 68 105 98 101 104 84 107 105 110 78 101 - 97 104 115 - 106 97 104 78 101 115 104 - 99 104 101 101 84 107 105 110 78 101 115 104 - 67 104 101 101 75 108 105 122 122 105 101 83 104 117 115 104 84 107 105 110 66 101

Using the Alt-code again we get:

DibehDzehGloe-ihTkinDzehGahLinDzehDzehBeA-Keh-di-gliniTKinDibehTkinNe-ahs-jahNesh-cheeTkinNesh-CheeKlizzieShushTkinBe

What a surprise, Navajo code again. :)
It translates to "sewierheedvisioningbid"

That's all I got so far.
SilverPhoenix • Oct 5, 2004 9:45 pm
Mr. Ears wrote:
[...] and silver phoenix.... i think it is you... but why are you a mod at the TINP forums??? i saw your name... and you were a mod... and you were saying that you werent the dude who made it... and that you were flattered or something... maybe you are him and that you are watching over us making sure we dont figure everything out until it is too late and you like kill someone or something... but then again i could just be paranoid...


You're just paranoid. *laugh* I'm not thisisnotporn, I'm just an interested bystander trying to figure this out... just as curious about it all as you guys are... I'm a mod so that there are more than two moderators available to the tinp forums (we had an incident a week or so ago)... also, the military code letters don't mean anything yet, though they might later on...

And, Redneck, you're on the right track... the hyphens are supposed to be there, don't remove them... the 108 at the end is your biggest clue, if you don't know where to go from where you are...

and, before anyone asks, no, I don't know the Frankenstein prompt answers yet.
Redneck • Oct 5, 2004 10:13 pm
is "sewierheedvisioningbid" an anogram or something....I just don't get it.
I have run it through an anogram program but there are just so many words listed that I can't make heads or tails of what it is supposed to be.
Any help here guys?
SilverPhoenix • Oct 5, 2004 10:46 pm
It's an anagram all right, at least as far as anyone knows. Have a challenge: decipher it. You'll be the first. =)
Sedicius • Oct 6, 2004 7:19 am
Nice find Redneck, those are indeed helpful, something you forgot to post, however, I notice that on the bottom of the page if you read it in order it reads "I have no mouth.", "And I.", "must scream." and did you decypher the other upsidedown, backwards typing? if not ill give it a shot, and post up what I get from it.
infect • Oct 6, 2004 1:19 pm
shivering bodies we die in

ill add more if i can figure some out... this class is boring...
infect • Oct 6, 2004 1:24 pm
shivering bones dew i die

shivering eden woe is ibid

sorry im stuck on shivering... bones and eden seem to follow the skeleton/creation theories though
infect • Oct 6, 2004 1:26 pm
Oh yeah, these are all anagrams to "sewierheedvisioningbid" in case you couldn't tell.
Sedicius • Oct 6, 2004 2:17 pm
Ive got a friend working on the anagram, he told me he might beable to get it in a few hours, hes good with those kinds of things, he broke it down pretty well in a 45 minute class period, im sure he will beable to figure it out, Also a little bit of info on the "Frakenstien now, where does he stand in the darkness of Paradise" password,I checked out the book Frakenstien from the library today, and that "Did I request thee, Maker, from my clay To mould me Man? Did I solicit thee? From darkness to promote me?" is an excerpt from Lost Paradise, X, 743-45 looks like another book worth checking out? Indeed, ill be checking it out within the hour.
Mr. Ears • Oct 6, 2004 4:26 pm
ok... um silver phoenix... you are really suspicious... you act like you know exactly what to do... i think this is all just a facade... you are the person arent you??? and oh yea... ummm... has anyone gotten the cell # from [email]porn@thisisnotporn.com[/email]???? :confused: i have emailed him... and this is what went on...

Yes I am. Hello.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brice Colby [mailto:bricolby@parkview.k12.wi.us]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 6:42 AM
To: [email]porn@thisisnotporn.com[/email]
Subject: RE: ...

lol.... so are you the one who made that site??? that is my signature...
btw...

Why do people point to their wrists when asking for the time, but don't
point to their crotch when they ask where the bathroom is?
>>> "Porn" <porn@thisisnotporn.com> 10/03/04 8:08 PM >>>
Because people might confuse the question and point them to a tailor to
get
their zipper fixed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brice Colby [mailto:bricolby@parkview.k12.wi.us]
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 5:01 PM
To: [email]porn@thisisnotporn.com[/email]
Subject: ...

** Top Secret **

duuude... what is with the site?? are you the one who made it??? do you
really live in Portage Indiana??? can you give me your address???

Why do people point to their wrists when asking for the time, but don't
point to their crotch when they ask where the bathroom is?

so there ya go...
SilverPhoenix • Oct 6, 2004 4:54 pm
heh. No, I'm not Kris. I'm, as I said, merely an interested bystander who's stuck at the Frankenstein prompt. You folks were just about a page early to the 'home' forums when I found you on Google, so I figured I'd add a grain of sand worth of help. As for where to go from here, you'll notice that I probably won't be much help, unless it's on stuff from earlier pages.

(Case in point: the "Injure sweet, helmless mirth" comment I left. That phrase was never there when the folks on the home forums were going through it. But when one knows how to get past the truck page in the first place, it's obviously a huge clue.)
Redneck • Oct 6, 2004 5:34 pm
Alright, I found this link with describing a short story by Harlan Ellison called "I have no mouth and I must scream."
http://www.bookrags.com/guides/mouthmustscream/
Nightmarish • Oct 6, 2004 6:18 pm
I googled "sorrows of werter"; and guess what? Joy, 'tis another book.

"The Sorrows of Werter: a German Story. By Johann Wolfgang von Goethe."

Oh, and the Mollacus page, the url is given in the phone message. But not the other urls. SO good job, overall, Redneck.
Sedicius • Oct 6, 2004 7:46 pm
Redneck has indeed done an excellent job, I can check out all of these storys and such, they wont be to hard for me to get, The school library and the public library have a pretty decent selection, and I can just have it ordered in from another library if needed. I feel as if im getting ever closer to solving the password of the Frakenstien door, and I have a few guesses that I am about to imput, if I get the ignorant beast open, ill be sure to share the password with everyone!
Redneck • Oct 6, 2004 8:35 pm
Hey thanks for the compliments guys :)

I don't know if this helps any but here is a link to paradise lost book X:
http://eir.library.utoronto.ca/rpo/display/poem1448.html
And if you click on 743 it brings up:
"Cf. "Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou?" (Isaiah 45:9)"
In this same part of the bible it say's the lord will give Cyrus treasures hidden in the darkness - secret riches.

Also I still have not had any luck with that anagram yet but I'll keep at it.

If anyone wants to read all ten books of Pradise Lost online you can read them here:
http://www.literature.org/authors/milton-john/paradise-lost/index.html
And Mary Shelley's Frankenstein here:
http://www.literature.org/authors/shelley-mary/frankenstein/

Added: Here is another one y'all should think about reading, it's "Dance Dance Dance":
http://yanko.lib.ru/books/lit/engl/murakami-dance-engl.htm
wolf • Oct 7, 2004 1:41 am
Do you people ever leave the house, or do you have 'net jacks directly in your skulls, a la Spider Robinson?
SilverPhoenix • Oct 7, 2004 1:54 am
do you have 'net jacks directly in your skulls

You mean you don't?
Redneck • Oct 7, 2004 1:56 am
I don't sleep as much anymore, this site has caused me to undergo some serious insomnia.

I just got done watching the 2004 version of Frankenstein on T.V. They use the excerpt from Paradise Lost twice. First when Victor's monster reads his journal and again when Victor dies. I'm sure that doesn't help with the puzzle but I thought it was interesting.
zer0 • Oct 7, 2004 3:02 am
Dammit, I just got into this today, and can't find much. Can someone explain to me why the username and password for the face0f clue works? I'm kind of interested in finding out what the hell is going on, and that would help. Whoever found that out, could you explain please :D
Sedicius • Oct 7, 2004 6:22 am
All of the answers for the usernames and passwords up till the Frakenstien now, where does he stand in the darkness of Paradise, and the Audition, Traveling Salesman room have been opened up just check previous posts on this thread. =)
Mr. Ears • Oct 7, 2004 8:44 am
so silver phoenix, you think that kristian boruff person it the one who made the site??? and i have a hunch... ok... a lot of the pictures are connected to different usernames and passwords... like the dorothy and scarecrow one??? it is connected to that tree face... (off the wizard of oz) and the username and password were for a different link... so yea.... just thought i should put that...
Schwabby • Oct 7, 2004 3:36 pm
Phone number doesent work anymore.

And does anyone know the u/p for the prompt of
Audition, Traveling Salesman

it comes aftrer you click the first light in The A moth flew in room
MuadDib • Oct 7, 2004 3:38 pm
Just wanted to point this out about the navajo coded messages.

(excerpts from Dance Dance Dance)

"read these letters over a few times, then filed them away. And so the months passed.

Money wasn't a problem. I had saved plenty enough to live on, and I wasn't thinking about what came later. Winter was past.

And spring took hold. The scent of the wind changed. Even the darkness of night was different.

At the end of May, Kipper, my cat, died. Suddenly, without warning. I woke up one day and found him curled up on the kitchen floor, dead. He himself probably hadn't known it"



"The area had changed markedly from the old days. Of course, those «old days» were only four years back, as I've said, so most of the places I'd frequented were more or less the same. The local atmosphere was basically the same as well, but signs of change were everywhere. Stores were boarded up, announcements of development to come tacked over. A large building was under construction....."
Schwabby • Oct 7, 2004 3:53 pm
Like one who, on a lonely road, Doth walk in fear and dread, And, having once turn'd round, walks on, And turns no more his head; Because he knows a frightful fiend Doth close behind him tread. -Samuel Taylor "Estese" Coleridge


this ^ was probably posted before, but im just making sure.
Sedicius • Oct 7, 2004 4:04 pm
interesting indeed, MuadDib, I have a hefty list of words that the anagram has in it, (my freind did all of this, the credit goes to him) the words are as followed, sorry for doubles:

sinew denver be brine seven video hog god shed grow bovine bone sew grow worse vorse shod shed nod shown shin down sow bow green den red rend rending being growing shedding sweing bowing rind whenever wherever where when ive wine sign signing win winning endow bide bride endevor whine whining dow dorow bond were die lore done donor honor honoring shone shine bonding good wood drive dive diver diving ore or bore given giver are wives bond gone born nob shove grove dove drove severe head reed seed deed need greed beer sheer sheering needing seeding heeding shiv shiver rove divide horn shore whore seen oven here bend bending rise now wig whig weed weeding wink divine divide division seven go gone dine dinner diviner hide nor noise no dib greenish redish sin sever

and thats all hes got, we both have a copy of the work he has done, and now all of you do to, so maybe we can figure this thing out quicker, im working on it as we speak! it most likely has to do with something morbid, so think along those lines :D and Schwabby we really dont need to work on getting into the Traveling Salesman door yet, we've nearly craked this Frankenstien one, lets solve it!
MuadDib • Oct 7, 2004 4:13 pm
remember the AUDITION/ travelling salesman page?

http://www.midnighteye.com/reviews/audition.shtml

"audition", by MURAKAMI...sound familiar? tahts right. Dance Dance Dance was written by Murakami as well
infect • Oct 7, 2004 5:46 pm
Heres more anagram work - the most probable - that came out of some anagram generators. The leftover letters are beside the word itself. (I've got millions... but I'll stick to the best words - anything genesis or bones or engineering - whatever may catch the 'Frankenstein' groove; sorry if anything overlaps with what Spyke wrote):

dissevering bdeehiiinow
idiogenesis bdeehiinrvw
biogenesis ddeehiiinrvw
engineered bdhiiiiossvw
envisioned bdeeghiiirsw
greediness bdehiiiinovw
inbreeding deehiiiossvw
neogenesis bddehiiiirvw
ovigenesis bddeehiiinrw
redesigned behiiiinosvw
digenesis bdeehiiinorvw
eerieness bddghiiiinovw
engineers bddehiiiiosvw
enshrined bdeegiiiiosvw
redesigns bdeehiiiinovw
rewinding bdeeehiiiossv
shinbones ddeeegiiiirvw

Using the 'hidden words' option on this page " http://www.mi.uib.no/~ingeke/anagram/index_eng.html " has given the best results - theres even an option to anagram the leftovers from some of the words. I suggest using this. ^_^
Sedicius • Oct 7, 2004 7:05 pm
Nope, looks like youve been working a little harder than my friend lol, your a step ahead, I havent even started peiceing it together yet, going to start in a bit, hmm, its obvoiusly not a very long statement, and what exactly could it hold? I also sent the [email]porn@thisisnotporn.com[/email] guy a lengthy email, even though I know I wont, im hoping to get some info from that, if any one cares Ill post what I wrote in the email, I took my time on it actually, so I think I made myself sound somewhat intellegent :D well my dog wants in, and this anagram wants deciphered, so im off, ill post any new info as soon as I get it!
SilverPhoenix • Oct 7, 2004 8:22 pm
MuadDib wrote:
remember the AUDITION/ travelling salesman page?

http://www.midnighteye.com/reviews/audition.shtml

"audition", by MURAKAMI...sound familiar? tahts right. Dance Dance Dance was written by Murakami as well


Wrong Murakami. Dance is by Haruki, Audition by Ryu. However, you -may- be on a correct tangent, as the film version's director Takashi Miike is one of Boruff's most admired.

Mr. Ears wrote:
so silver phoenix, you think that kristian boruff person it the one who made the site??? and i have a hunch... ok... a lot of the pictures are connected to different usernames and passwords... like the dorothy and scarecrow one??? it is connected to that tree face... (off the wizard of oz) and the username and password were for a different link... so yea.... just thought i should put that...


I know it's Kris that made it. :D (it certainly wasn't me) And so where are you going with this hunch? what do you think the road may have to do with Frankenstein? /genuinely curious...
Sedicius • Oct 7, 2004 9:21 pm
To SilverPhoenix: I dont doubt the fact that you are an innocent bystander, attemping to solve the ridde as every one else, but I have heard some rumors that Kristian Boruff is a young man, maybe about 16-20 years old? Have any info on that?
MuadDib • Oct 7, 2004 9:25 pm
Also as a possible connection, Haruki Murakami wrote a book (after the quake) that featured a salesman as the main character...
MuadDib • Oct 7, 2004 9:28 pm
Oh, and i dunno whether or not you guys found the connection between Dance Dance Dance and the "one armed skeleton" thing, but there definitely is one. (Dick North)
Thisisnotporn • Oct 7, 2004 9:29 pm
Sedicius wrote:
To SilverPhoenix: I dont doubt the fact that you are an innocent bystander, attemping to solve the ridde as every one else, but I have heard some rumors that Kristian Boruff is a young man, maybe about 16-20 years old? Have any info on that?

I've heard he's a 74 year old retired Army Colonel.
SilverPhoenix • Oct 7, 2004 9:46 pm
Sedicius: From pics I've seen of him, I'd say he's in his early-to-mid twenties. No older than 32-ish. Why do you ask?

MuadDib: nice finds, particularly the book (Quake). Possibly Dick North is the person referenced by the phrase on the lights page "the poet is dead", but right now there's no way to tell for sure.
SilverPhoenix • Oct 7, 2004 9:46 pm
Thisisnotporn wrote:
I've heard he's a 74 year old retired Army Colonel.


I've heard that too. I'm not sure what keeps me suspicious...
MuadDib • Oct 7, 2004 10:03 pm
SilverPhoenix wrote:


MuadDib: nice finds, particularly the book (Quake). Possibly Dick North is the person referenced by the phrase on the lights page "the poet is dead", but right now there's no way to tell for sure.


Yes, my thoughts exactly. and if you remember the highway page, a popup that says "a life half lived" appears when you put your cursor over the truck in the other lane. In DDD, Dick North was killed on a highway by a truck or van. For those of you that didnt know, Dick North is a one-armed poet in "Dance Dance Dance"
SilverPhoenix • Oct 7, 2004 10:08 pm
not to mention the new side-page whose title is "a life half lived"
Redneck • Oct 7, 2004 11:22 pm
So what are you sayin' that a "life half lived" could refer to the one armed poet since some ppl would call him half a man?
SilverPhoenix • Oct 8, 2004 12:14 am
naw. I was referring to a couple of things. First, that Dick North was killed in an accident and didn't die in his sleep ('a life half-lived' is often used to say that someone's life was cut short). Second, a number of references to DN show up in the source of HypericumPerforatum.htm (the mother of all ascii pics), which is linked from the original highway page.
collyer_1 • Oct 8, 2004 12:24 am
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I cannot believe how intuitive some of you poeple are! I never would have guessed some of the things you have discovered here...

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Thisisnotporn • Oct 8, 2004 2:20 pm
This is something neat.
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=802808

Where does he stand in the darkness of Paradise? WHERE DOES HE STAND
bella_luna@hotmail.c • Oct 8, 2004 2:21 pm
OT: Wolf! Did you read the Otherland series? Loved it!!!
MuadDib • Oct 8, 2004 3:53 pm
Redneck wrote:
So what are you sayin' that a "life half lived" could refer to the one armed poet since some ppl would call him half a man?


haha no, remember he had one arm, not one testicle :D
MuadDib • Oct 8, 2004 5:09 pm
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/stc/Coleridge/poems/Rime_Ancient_Mariner.html

just for further reference to the "pkd's fortune cookie" poem
Sedicius • Oct 8, 2004 8:04 pm
If the creator of thisisnotporn is Kristian Boruff, young or old, It doesnt matter, then who is this Dende Phish refrenced in the source code of the pop-up page that reads "HELP I AM DROWNING"? It claims that he created the site, and what is the countdown date mean? It has to be important...Jun 6 2005 11:38:00, odd.
Redneck • Oct 8, 2004 8:09 pm
No, Dende Phish is just the guy that wrote that script, the creator of this site just used the script from "The Javascript Source". It doesn't mean he's the creator of the site.
As for the countdown date, I don't think any of us will know untill then.
Sedicius • Oct 9, 2004 6:33 pm
Hmmm, something else to think about would be how many people are a part of this "Devil in the Sun" production group, is it just Dende Phish and Kristian Boruff, or is it a whole team of people? And about the dates on the pictures, Some are from 2001 (at the earliest that I remeber, im at my dads this weekend, and I havent been working on the puzzle latly, but as soon as sunday night comes ill be right back at it!) maybe some were earlier, that means that they had to have planned to create this for years, it has to have been excellently planned out. Kind of scary if you think about it...why would they plan for so long for just a puzzle?
MuadDib • Oct 9, 2004 6:58 pm
"...The Sheep Man escorted me out to the bend in the hallway, dragging his feet along, shuffle . . . shuffle . . . shuffle...."
MuadDib • Oct 9, 2004 11:18 pm
UPDATE
the "Audition, traveling salesman" prompt thing now reads, "Audition, Death of a travelling salesman"
TheSheikah • Oct 9, 2004 11:36 pm
Does anyone think the connection between this and "death of a salesman" warrants any discussion?

I don't really think so, but, Audition, (Bout a salseman, never read it, so I don't know) and Death of a travelling salesman (Death of a Salesman, based around a travelling salesman who commits suicide)
Sedicius • Oct 10, 2004 1:28 am
I will read Audition, along with all of the other books mentioned, hey even if we seem to be done with them, if they were quoted and used on a puzzle they had to be pretty good, eh?
TheSheikah • Oct 10, 2004 4:23 am
Dance Dance Dance, I was (and still am) merely reading to have a better grasp of the riddles, and I really like it. Must read Audition then...
Aizen • Oct 11, 2004 11:09 pm
Hey people, I'm new-ish around here.
Anyway, I don't know if this was mentioned yet, but on that Rober Silvers page with the pictures of the freaky robot head, one of the popups has the title 'a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy'. That line is from Shakespeare's play Hamlet and it refers to Yorick, the court jester. Hamlet finds Yorick's skull while digging around in a graveyard and the he does the 'to be or not to be' thing.
Hamlet also says "When we have shuffled off this mortal coil, must give us pause......For who would bear the whips and scorns of time.....but that the dread of something after death"
Maybe that has something to do with how robots don't die? Or maybe about Frankenstein?
Redneck • Oct 12, 2004 4:40 am
Since you all are such good help I am using some of my Gmail invites here....I have four left so the first four people to send me an email get one. :)


<---just click my name and send email. I'll send the email with the invite to you at the email address you registered here with.
Sedicius • Oct 12, 2004 6:24 am
Im shot, I cant think any more, its mentally impossible, Im still awaiting the books I ordered from the library, Dance Dance Dance, Paradise Lost book X, I Have No Mouth But I Must Scream, and there was one or two more, but I cant even remeber the names of them, maybe this puzzle IS impossible, and it was made to drive people to insanity. *sigh* oh well! We cant give up yet, the password for the Frankenstien promp has to be right under our noses!
Mr. Ears • Oct 12, 2004 1:53 pm
Ok. I have found some interesting stuff. I am not sure if it has already been posted or not. But here it goes.

Ok. On the we are connected page, it says this in the source(some of this stuff may or may not help with the passwords and usernames for the 2 new things...)
('We');('Nesh-cheeDzehA-Ken-Di-GliniGahNe-as-jahThan-ZieDibehDzehKlizzie DibehTKin TKinDzehNa-as-tso-si')('What was all that about?');('Live');('As');('We');('Dream...'); It has the We Lives As We Dream... part in a line going down so you can easily read it. ('Did I kill Kiki?');('ever_yo_ne_i_sdead.htm','' (should check that site out... see if it works)('There was nothing I could do. He had disappeared.'); There ya go. Dont know anything about that navajo code. Or at least that is what i assume it is since Kris has used it before.
And this is the last bit that i have.
This is on the fortune cookie one.
<!--The boss has a tumor in his brain.-->('No Closet.');('wrapped in his sheep costume.')('any indication.');('boarded up from inside.');('No Bath.');('directly into the saucer.');('must\'ve slept on the floor');('worm-eatten');('Whatever became of him?');('very, old, round, set with one candle in the middle.')('walls and ceiling');('No lights.');('It was the Sheepman\'s Room.')('There was barely enough room to walk.');('It wasn\'t the old hotel either.');('piles of books.');('Narrow and Cramped.');('No bed.');
Ok... hmmm.... doesnt make any sense to me... Maybe it will to one of you guys. Well... thats it for now.

Oh yeah. Who figured out how to get to those new sites? Cuz I wanna know how you found them.
Big Joe • Oct 12, 2004 2:18 pm
Mr. Ears wrote:

('We');('What was all that about?');('Live');('As');('We');('Dream...');('Did I kill Kiki?');('There was nothing I could do. He had disappeared.');

These are all Dance Dance Dance refrences:
What was all that about - Kiki's line in the movie
Did I kill Kiki? - Gotanda's line in the pizza shop
There was nothing I could do. He dissapeared. - Gotanda Suicide

Mr. Ears wrote:

('wrapped in his sheep costume.')('any indication.');('boarded up from inside.');('No Bath.');('directly into the saucer.');('must\'ve slept on the floor');('worm-eatten');('Whatever became of him?');('very, old, round, set with one candle in the middle.')('walls and ceiling');('No lights.');('It was the Sheepman\'s Room.')('There was barely enough room to walk.');('It wasn\'t the old hotel either.');('piles of books.');('Narrow and Cramped.');('No bed.');


This is all the description of the Sheep man's room, also from Dance Dance Dance. TINP seems to like to throw stuff around, so although its an interesting find, I dont think it has much significance... :greenface

I suggest reading Dance Dance Dance, its a really good book, and it will help with the website ;)
Redneck • Oct 12, 2004 5:16 pm
I did the navajo code for that one back on page 10.
It is "mei is gestorven" or May has died

And I got the new site links by using a program called "gifshuffle" http://www.darkside.com.au/gifshuffle/
I used this on the pictures on the "Devil with 5 fingers page"
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/4/1129524974645525182.htm
SilverPhoenix • Oct 12, 2004 5:43 pm
Open invitation: Most evenings (we're talking USA evenings here, make adjustments according to your timezone), open TINP brainstorm chat is available on AIMChat, room TINP (invite yourself).

Also IRCchat, server irc.hack3r.com #tinp, or the backup server lightning.chattingaway.com, also #tinp
MuadDib • Oct 12, 2004 9:57 pm
I've jsut discovered another Murakami reference.
some of the ASCII in the dutch truck page translated to "what comes after we tire of chasing wild sheep" (or something)
an amazon searh of Murakami brought up this http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/037571894X/qid=1097632464/sr=2-2/ref=pd_ka_2_2/103-8610496-4454233
possibly meaningless, but another thing to look at
Hajik • Oct 14, 2004 1:46 pm
hey, im new, but complete awesomeness, im not sure of the exact specifics but ill post them tomorrow or at the very least sunday, a friend found something about a shovel and snow, something like "Shovel the best snow", something like that, also me and my friends are splitting up Dance, Dance, Dance, Frankenstien and a few other books, also im checking out the short story Death of a Salesman, so we're trying very hard to crack this, be back soon :D
BrianR • Oct 14, 2004 3:01 pm
WOW! Not a single period. Anywhere! Must be a teenager with a cell phone and texting.
Aizen • Oct 15, 2004 7:05 am
Just finished reading Dance Dance Dance. Hmm.

-Usually when the protag thinks about Mei, he says 'cuck-koo' and something about her 'shoveling sensual snow'.

-The protagonist saw six skeletons in Honolulu. They belonged to The Rat, Kiki, Mei, Gotanda, Dick North (one-armed skeleton), and the sixth one maybe belonged to the Sheep Man.

-The Maserati seems important to Gotanda's character. It's connected with death and despair...

That's all I can think of :/
Hajik • Oct 15, 2004 8:19 am
Damn. I'm sorry grammer was so importent to you. If it bothers you that much then I'll make sure to use the proper grammer next time.
BrianR • Oct 15, 2004 4:08 pm
And spelling too, while you're at it! :D
glatt • Oct 15, 2004 4:39 pm
And sit up straight, damnit!
SilverPhoenix • Oct 15, 2004 4:43 pm
*bother bother bother*
collyer_1 • Oct 15, 2004 4:52 pm
SilverPhoenix wrote:
*bother bother bother*


I know where that's from!! That's the potter puppet pals! oh man, if you people havn't seen that go look it up... or click here.

http://www.potterpuppetpals.com/

see also:
http://www.potterpuppetpals.com/sexy.swf
SilverPhoenix • Oct 15, 2004 6:15 pm
actually, it's a running semi-drunken joke between me and some friends from college. but the potter puppets are funny too. :D
Aizen • Oct 18, 2004 12:24 am
That second light of the 'a moth flew in...' page now says "Frankenstein now, Yuki's bird." The only time in Dance Dance Dance that Yuki and birds come together is when the protagonist is trying to explain sex drive to her. Haha.
Hajik • Oct 18, 2004 1:21 pm
BrianR wrote:
And spelling too, while you're at it! :D


Heh, I can fix the grammer. Spelling on the other hand might be a different story. Im not too... proficeint in that area. As you can probably already tell, heh. :D
Mr. Ears • Oct 18, 2004 1:49 pm
Hey, did you guys know that the last light on the page led to a different site? The username and password were Mark and Twain. But it is not there anymore. Has anyone been there?

EDIT: "The film ends in London, where Frankenstein now
works under the pseudonym Dr. Franck." That is from the Revenge of Frankenstein. That might be of use. Dr. Franck could be the username or it could be Prometheus. Who knows?

EDIT: Hey, I got a question. I was just browsing through the rest of this thread. It never says how anyone got the Yuki and Gotanda thing for the username and password. Anyone wanna fill me in on that?
Veros • Oct 18, 2004 7:50 pm
Hey, I'm new to the forum. As this is my first post you can guess why I joined. Anyways, back to my point. Has anyone tried to find out the meaning of the third block of words from timeflows.htm? While it is true everyone is working on Frankenstein Now, I just thought I'd get this in here as I've read no mention of it thus far. With some googling I was able to find the translation, it being one of the only surviving parts of an old Dutch text, also being very old Dutch dialect.
What was:
hebban olla vogala nestas hagunnan
hinase hi(c) (e)nda thu
uu(at) unbida(n) (uu)e nu

translated into english is:

"All the birds have started their nests
except me and you.
What are we waiting for now?"

Considering that recent "Yuki's Bird" change maybe it has more revelance?
Big Joe • Oct 19, 2004 9:55 am
Aizen wrote:

-The protagonist saw six skeletons in Honolulu. They belonged to The Rat, Kiki, Mei, Gotanda, Dick North (one-armed skeleton), and the sixth one maybe belonged to the Sheep Man.


FYI, that the final skeleton is revealed in Wild Sheep Chase, another book my murakami
SilverPhoenix • Oct 19, 2004 10:13 am
I think that's the one he's referring to with 'The Rat', who dies in WSC. The narrator himself is confused right 'til the end of the novel about who the sixth one could have been.

Personally, I think it's the narrator himself, except that he avoids fate by "reconnecting himself". When he first goes into the 'attic space,' he sees six skeletons. However, he only describes five of them [Spoilers here!]













(one in bed [Dick North], one at the table [Kiki], two on the couch [Gotanda & Mei], and one watching TV [The Rat]). Like the narrator himself, the sixth skeleton goes nameless, faceless (no pun intended), and descriptionless. It's not even mentioned where #6 is in the room. Just passing through, perhaps?
Mr. Ears • Oct 19, 2004 2:09 pm
Does anyone know all the numbers that are on the pages? They are at the bottom right.
Redneck • Oct 19, 2004 2:38 pm
Light 1-73,Light 2-54,Light 3-23,Light 4-999
I don't know what they mean though!
SilverPhoenix • Oct 19, 2004 3:38 pm
Redneck wrote:
73, 54, 23, 999


Hike!
Mr. Ears • Oct 20, 2004 2:26 pm
Did anyone notice on the tree sign thing that it says the cat died???
zazkia • Oct 21, 2004 5:09 pm
hey everyone :)

I'm sorta new around here, so I'm not entirely sure if this has been mentioned yet, but here goes:

remember the code that kept flashing on the truck page?

1590521471 fourth word add s
0060254920 fifth word
0970042809 last word
.. etc?

well, the numbers looked like ISBN numbers, and if you look up the books they belong to (and take the fourth word of the title and add an s etc)

you get these words:

hints
are
riddles
remain
questions
bigger
date
the
await
calm
remain
to answer
will come
your time
that weight
those
come to
good things

.. which, if you read them from bottom to top as the lines were grouped in the code gives you:

'riddles are hints'
'bigger questions remain'
'await the date'
'remain calm'
'your time will come to answer'
'good things will come to those who weight'


P.S. oh, and you know how in the redhead robot pages, it said: unhssrvelette ??

well, that can be scrambled into: 'seventh result' and when googling 'david hanson' the seventh result gives you the david hanson you need...
(i know.. lot of good that does us.. just thought it was funny.. might just be coincidence though..)

well, thats all i've found out for now.. i really hope we solve this soon.. cuz its causing me some major sleep-deprivation :P:P
zazkia • Oct 21, 2004 5:20 pm
oh, and one more thing... remember on the very first page.. the numbers you heard in the background? :
check out http://www.spynumbers.com/

( "59372 98324 19043 78903 95320...". The mechanized female voice drones on and on... What have you stumbled on to? Instructions to spies? Messages exchanged between drug dealers? Deliberate attempts at deception and mis-information?

Chances are, all of the above! What you've tuned in to is called a "Spy Numbers Station". They've been on the air for several decades, and only recently have the mysteries started to unfold. But there's still much we don't know about these mysterious stations. With the information on these pages, you'll discover the little that we do know about these stations, what we're still trying to learn, and how you too can tune in to the spies.)


dont know if that helps any.. but oh well... :)
thisismynicknam • Oct 26, 2004 10:17 am
When Jim felt something firm under his feet the poor beast's legs trembled so much that he could hardly stand; but Zeb at once leaped out of the buggy to the roof, and he was so awkward and hasty that he kicked over Dorothy's bird-cage, which rolled out upon the roof so that the bottom came off. At once a pink kitten crept out of the upset cage, sat down upon the glass roof, and yawned and blinked its round eyes.

"Oh," said Dorothy. "There's Eureka."

"First time I ever saw a pink cat," said Zeb.

"Eureka isn't pink; she's white. It's this queer light that gives her that color."

"Where's my milk?" asked the kitten, looking up into Dorothy's face. "I'm 'most starved to death."

"Oh, Eureka! Can you talk?"

"Talk! Am I talking? Good gracious, I believe I am. Isn't it funny?" asked the kitten.

"It's all wrong." said Zeb, gravely. "Animals ought not to talk.


L. Frank Baum
Dorothy and the Wizard in Oz

Going along the lines of Yuki's Bird. It may be nothing, but I figured it was worth a post.

Also I thought it might be interesting to note that "I have no mouth and I must scream" was not only a book, but was also made into an old DOS game back in '95 I believe.

It's essentially about a computer being in the future that controls the world. All that's left of humanity is a few people, each of which have their vices like vanity and such, which are exploited in what seems to be their own personal hell by this mechanized satan.

I used to play that on my old DOS machine, along with Zakk McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders.

Also, the dummy head is a robot, essentially. It's called the K-Bot, and it was made by a man named David Hanson.

"The head's got 24 servomotors, he says, covering the major muscles in the human face. It's got digital cameras in its eyes, to watch the people watching it, and new software will soon let the head mimic viewers. Its name is K-Bot, and it's modeled after Kristen Nelson, his lab assistant."


I'm not sure whether or not that has yet been covered.

Hello, by the way.
TheReaper • Oct 26, 2004 11:34 am
Hmm... the window says: "Frankenstein now, Yuki's bird"
I'm pretty sure the username is David, Hanson, David Hanson or something like that.
The password should be the name of Yuki's bird. What's its name?
Redneck • Oct 26, 2004 12:52 pm
Someone has suggested that yuki's bird could be Yuki herself....Read "Dance Dance Dance" chapter 30 paragraph 265

"«Okay, suppose you were a bird,» I said, «and flying was something you really enjoyed and made you feel good. But there were certain circumstances that, except on rare occa*sions, kept you from flying. I don't know, let's say, lousy weather conditions, the direction of the wind, the season, things like that. But the more you couldn't fly, the more you wanted to fly and your energy built up inside you and made you irritable. You felt bottled up or something like that. You got annoyed, maybe even angry. You get me?» «I get you,» she said. «I always feel that way.» «Well, that's your sex drive.»"

Or it could be something to do with sex or being unaware of dangers...I don't know.
Clodfobble • Oct 26, 2004 12:54 pm
When are you guys going to figure out that this is an elaborate marketing scheme for the book "Dance, Dance, Dance?"
Redneck • Oct 26, 2004 1:09 pm
http://www.filmfights.com/cgi-bin/play.pl?32.6
This is a short film made by TINP
perth • Oct 26, 2004 3:11 pm
Clodfobble wrote:
When are you guys going to figure out that this is an elaborate marketing scheme for the book "Dance, Dance, Dance?"

I can't wait until they solve it and discover the reward is something like this.
Happy Monkey • Oct 26, 2004 3:22 pm
Or "Don't forget to drink your Ovaltine"
MuadDib • Oct 26, 2004 4:15 pm
http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/pid-1002531745/pname-Humming-bird/section-music/code-j/version-all/did-97/
just thought I'd point that out.
Redneck • Oct 26, 2004 8:21 pm
Nice find Muad'Dib
MuadDib • Oct 26, 2004 9:19 pm
Redneck wrote:
Nice find Muad'Dib

The Murakai references might be throwing us off on this one, but who knows.
(btw, that apostrophe tells me you are familiar with Dune :cool: )
Redneck • Oct 26, 2004 10:08 pm
I love Dune...my whole family calls me Muad'Dib

anyways,
There are way too many connections between Yuki and Bird when Googled so it is easier to try stuff from the book first I guess. At least that's what I'm doing, then I will go on to other possible connections.

:mad2: damn this thing is fryin' my brain. :mad2:
3Engineersandafreak • Oct 27, 2004 1:23 am
The picture you get to from "CuriosityKilledTheCat", I believe, leads to the truck driving away, which leads to the ascii image of what appears to be either a candle or a lighthouse. We followed up on the lighthouse, and on the Zuiderzee (IJsselmeer), there is a lighthouse called the 'Paard van Marken'. No idea if that is relevant, but the poem about the Zuiderzee refers to the boys of Marken.

Also, the Zuiderzee is supposed to have many wind turbines around it, just like the wind turbines in the picture taken from inside the car (with links to the head pictures.)

The phone number was from Gary, Indiana (or, Fort Wayne or South Bend.) There is only one K. Boruff in Gary that we could find, and apparently none in Fort Wayne or South Bend.

Does anyone happen to know of any other puzzle sites we could peruse?

Thank you.
TheReaper • Oct 27, 2004 9:13 am
Other puzzle:
http://deathball.net/notpron

But this one is fairly easy compared to thisisnotporn.
Redneck • Oct 27, 2004 12:03 pm
Here are three other puzzles:
http://www.plime.com/
http://www.hack.net/
http://www.fasco-csc.com/
MuadDib • Oct 27, 2004 3:50 pm
Redneck wrote:
I love Dune...my whole family calls me Muad'Dib

anyways,
There are way too many connections between Yuki and Bird when Googled so it is easier to try stuff from the book first I guess. At least that's what I'm doing, then I will go on to other possible connections.

:mad2: damn this thing is fryin' my brain. :mad2:


haha thats crazy, my gf's dad and my best friend call me that
Redneck • Oct 29, 2004 7:09 pm
I'm thinkin everyone has gone off to work on other puzzles and aren't payin any attention to TINP anymore...Oh well, if I find the next un/psw I will be nice and share it..but don't get your hopes up cuz I am getting low on ideas where to look for the answers.
3Engineersandafreak • Nov 1, 2004 11:40 am
I forget what page it is that has this on it, but there is a pop-up that... well, pops up, and it says "I persecute yellower thought." Could this possibly be an anagram or something of the sort? I am just wondering. Thisisnotporn uses the Navajo language more than once on puzzles, and I know anagrams have been used before, so perhaps they will be used again.

Also, perhaps using a thesaurus one might change the words, like "yellow" into "cowardly" and things like that? It might mean something sensible in a different form.
Mr. Ears • Nov 1, 2004 1:50 pm
dude... someone on the TINP forums says he found out the username and password for the one of the two new ones...
infect • Nov 1, 2004 4:51 pm
Supposedly, someone got into 'Audition, Death of a Travelling Salesman' but it is yet to be confirmed by TINP or anyone else. Still no word on the 'Frankenstein now, Yuki's Bird' prompt either.
Mr. Ears • Nov 9, 2004 2:05 pm
This thread is dead...:thepain3:
wolf • Nov 9, 2004 2:16 pm
We've been hoping.
MuadDib • Nov 9, 2004 3:18 pm
must revive...keep searching everyone!
*head explodes*
Kitsune • Nov 9, 2004 9:51 pm
This thread is dead...

Only because most Cellarites are hoping for a thread that reads, "This is porn."
Mr. Ears • Nov 10, 2004 1:58 pm
hmmm... that gives me ideas...
wolf • Nov 10, 2004 1:59 pm
Just make sure that you put "NSFW" in the Title.
Mr. Ears • Nov 10, 2004 2:02 pm
NSFW???
wolf • Nov 10, 2004 2:04 pm
Do not follow through on your master plan for world domination until you figure that out.
Mr. Ears • Nov 10, 2004 2:10 pm
ok... but there are millions of possibilities... how will i ever be able to rule the world before i die
wolf • Nov 10, 2004 2:22 pm
Alexander did it all by 30 or so, didn't he.

And you have the internet. He had a horsie.
Mr. Ears • Nov 10, 2004 2:24 pm
thats true... but i dont work so i wouldnt know what it means... i go to school... but the power of the internet prevails again!!! it means Not Safe For Work... so... now on to my plans for world domination!!!!

edit: Also Alexander didnt need to know what that meant...
perth • Nov 10, 2004 3:53 pm
Mr. Ears wrote:
edit: Also Alexander didnt need to know what that meant...

And now all you need is a horsie.
perth • Nov 10, 2004 3:54 pm
Kitsune wrote:
This thread is dead...

Only because most Cellarites are hoping for a thread that reads, "This is porn."

If that thread hasn't been created by the time I get home, I'm doing it myself. :D
wolf • Nov 11, 2004 2:29 am
Thank you, sir, for attending to this important task.
Devangelist • Nov 11, 2004 4:46 pm
I see that no one else is still concerned with this (or if they are they aren't posting) and i've been doing a bit of research...I dunno if it'll do anything for anybody, but it seems that the book "Death of a Traveling Salesman" was written by Eudora Welty, and it involved a shoe salesman that...well heres a synopsis:

http://www.storybites.com/weltysalesman.htm

Anyways, it talks about when he dies, he dies on a highway (one or two of the pictures was a highway) and it also talks about dying alone/being alone in life (i believe that one of the prompts had something to do with this)...didn't know if maybe that had to do with anything.

just tryin to bring some life back into this thread!
MuadDib • Nov 11, 2004 9:29 pm
excellent info Dev.
infect • Nov 12, 2004 3:00 pm
New hint:

A vanishing rhinoceros caresses with it's feet.
Took a penny.
Jobes wife was plagued by dancers and a hose.
A speeding man wearing a kilt made us, with a cooking man on his toes.

These four lines contain the answer to /5.
Devangelist • Nov 12, 2004 6:28 pm
infect wrote:
New hint:

A vanishing rhinoceros caresses with it's feet.
Took a penny.
Jobes wife was plagued by dancers and a hose.
A speeding man wearing a kilt made us, with a cooking man on his toes.

These four lines contain the answer to /5.


Contains the answer to /5...wats that? i know that was his away message yesterday, but is it relevant to TINP?

I also asked him if hints to the last 2 lights were in the rest of the lights, and he said there are clues every where...I then asked if he could give me something, anything, and he said lights and sound...I suggested the lights in the background and the sounds in the background and he said just research...I asked him later if he could give me anything else, and so he said dogs can look up, which is an argument that is considered a bit of an easter egg in "Shaun of the Dead" and is also in the commentary on the second season of the comedy "Spaced." Anything connecting?
Ender • Nov 12, 2004 7:17 pm
Who is "he?" What is that away message "he" had? By the way, hello. ^.- I was instroduced to this site a month ago and I thought it was just some stupid puzzle site made by 'Grandpa Joe' who got the idea off of puzzles.com.... I later revisited and now that I know what it is, it's messing with my brain. I will aid as much as I can in figuring this out.
Ender • Nov 12, 2004 7:23 pm
By the way, when I was on the http://www.thisisnotporn.com/see/IJsselmeer.htm page... I deleted the /IJsselmeer.htm, so it just said http://www.thisisnotporn.com/see. I was redirected to www.krisboruf.com/see, and after going on www.krisboruf.com it says nothing but.... "Welcome to boruffgoestogermany.com!" Does anyone know what's up with this?
Kita • Nov 12, 2004 9:41 pm
Was directed here when looking for help for the you-know-what ;)

Ok, based on the new clues, here is what I have. Dogs, it is arguable whether or not they can lookup, but pigs definetly cant look up. Not sure if that helps :/

I tried many combinations of Jobes, wife, dancers, and hose, and got nothing but porn sites from google :( It must just be a riddle, not referencing any sort of literature or movie.

Oh, found something else. I know that this guy likes to change this puzzle, and I dont remember anyone mentioning this, so here is what I found on the Devil with 5 Fingers page:
There was nothing I could do. He had disappeared. I persecute yellower
thought@Klizzie-YazziGahWol-La-CheeNa-as-tso-si BeDzehKlizzieNesh-cheeWol-La-CheeLinMoasi BeWol-La-CheeLin Wol-La-CheeDzehGahWol-La-Chee DzehLinThan-Zie

There is another mention of this yellower person on I believe the page with the windmills as well. I think it is important, on both mentions it talks of him being the one to blame.....
juuhanna • Nov 13, 2004 5:41 am
Okay, the reason why I joined this place is because I wanna know more about TINP. I'm somewhat obsessed now... ;D

Just out of curiosity; has anyone figured out the very, <i>very</i> light text next to the tree with the glowing eyes says? In the "DON'T STRAY FROM THE PATH"-page? There's some question in it, it seems...

-------
edit: I've been trying to figure it out anyway... it looks like it says something along the lines of <i>
"HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT
IF SOMEONE CAME ALONG
AND ***** SOMETHING
*** OF YOU?" </i>

(*= no clue what letter it is)
juuhanna • Nov 13, 2004 5:45 am
Ender wrote:
By the way, when I was on the http://www.thisisnotporn.com/see/IJsselmeer.htm page... I deleted the /IJsselmeer.htm, so it just said http://www.thisisnotporn.com/see. I was redirected to www.krisboruf.com/see, and after going on www.krisboruf.com it says nothing but.... "Welcome to boruffgoestogermany.com!" Does anyone know what's up with this?


It's been changed... I only get 'page not found' when I remove the IJsselmeer. =/ It does ask for the HeWhoRulesByTheSword-password though.

------------------------------
-Oh, and! The other sites are dead as well... -_- People really should be on that place 24/7 to catch all the clues that are there only for a day or so...
And there are so many things I never got to see! Frustrating.
Ender • Nov 13, 2004 9:47 am
How would you like it if someone came along and picked something off of you? That was posted in the forums a while back.
Devangelist • Nov 13, 2004 3:45 pm
thats a reference to the Wizard of Oz, when dorothy and the scarecrow (i believe its only them, kinda makes reference to the light prompt of "Dorothy and Scarecrow") take an apple off of the tree, the tree yells that line at them.

Also, the book "Dance Dance Dance" can be found here:

http://yanko.lib.ru/books/lit/engl/murakami-dance-engl.htm

If you scroll down on the page more you'll see where the story starts...its the complete book as far as I can tell! also anywhere where there is "<<...words...>>" that means the same as quotations ("...words..."). So if anyone has some spare time but doesn't feel like buying or borrowing the book from the library, please look this over, as the more people we have educated on the many sources he draws from, maybe people can put together previously unregarded bits of information...

[EDIT: I just found this essay online!

http://gbctrans.com/essay/essay.html

Earlier in the forums somebody (i believe redneck?) found quotes from frankenstein and from something else (i cant remember), but then he also said that in the diablo.gif picture he found the phrase "The french man in a box." Now I just skimmed through it so the comparisons aren't complete, but In that essay, it describes Bertolt Brecht (man with ideas of alienation)'s conversation with a woman he would later marry:

"So that's how you plan to spend the rest of your life?"
"Probably. At least that way I won't be bothering anybody."
"If you really feel that way," she said, "Why not live in a shoebox?
"A charming idea."

A man in a box, with theories on alienation (a main theme in both books), not necessarily french though
.
I'm gonna go see what more I can pull out of Google, but honestly, read this essay! it's especially helpful for understanding the basic idea(s) of Dance Dance Dance and The Wild Sheep Chase for those who haven't read them.]


Has anyone heard truthfully if anyone has gotten past those first 2 lights???
Devangelist • Nov 13, 2004 3:56 pm
Ender wrote:
Who is "he?" What is that away message "he" had? By the way, hello. ^.- I was instroduced to this site a month ago and I thought it was just some stupid puzzle site made by 'Grandpa Joe' who got the idea off of puzzles.com.... I later revisited and now that I know what it is, it's messing with my brain. I will aid as much as I can in figuring this out.


thanks, at least we have a few people still interested :(

Anyways, this "he" is the creator of TINP, supposedly Kris Boruff...I don't know if this is true or not, but...anyways, I've ordered Dance Dance Dance and The Wild Sheep Chase (the prequel to Dance Dance Dance and possibly another source of information ["whathappensafterwetireofchasingwildsheep?", anyone remember that?]) and I'll get reading on them...I'm also gonna get Eudora Welty's compilation that has Death of a Traveling Salesman in it, and who was it that said Audition was a book about a salesman? I don't remember if it was on this board or not, but if it was someone here, can you tell me where you saw it? The only thing I can find related to "Audition" that may have any relevance is a movie about a guy who fakes a movie audition to find a new wife and ends up with some psycho girl...you can amazon it if you wanna find out more about it.

PLEASE post if you have new information or something we overlooked before.

P.S. Is SilverPheonix and/or YellowBolt still out there? They were ALOT of help before and if they could still help out then we might get this figured out sooner, if at all.
Devangelist • Nov 13, 2004 4:08 pm
You guys remember on the Master/Betrayer prompt, the right eye, which led you to Phillip Dick or whoever's fortune cookie, and it had the poetry, and when you would get to the very bottom line, something like "You are not of the path" would flash? Well I dunno how important that is or isn't, but it doesn't flash anymore...does that mean that maybe that section is part of the path now?
juuhanna • Nov 14, 2004 9:14 am
Devangelist wrote:
You guys remember on the Master/Betrayer prompt, the right eye, which led you to Phillip Dick or whoever's fortune cookie, and it had the poetry, and when you would get to the very bottom line, something like "You are not of the path" would flash? Well I dunno how important that is or isn't, but it doesn't flash anymore...does that mean that maybe that section is part of the path now?

It did flash just now, actually. =/
The person who made the site does keep on changing it bit by bit from what I've heard, I hope he'll add some new hints soon. ..
Devangelist • Nov 14, 2004 9:53 am
hmm...it must be my computer then...let me know if anyone else does/doesn't see the phrase, it may just be my computer...
Ender • Nov 14, 2004 10:33 pm
Hey guys... my friend's dad is navajo, he said one of the navajo messages said... "A path only blind men see. & There lies the key." I don't know exactly what message it was from...... but yeah. Maybe that might help someone out, if someone hadn't already found that. He says he swears he saw something like that in Dante's "Inferno" and is looking it up. But this might be the wrong referance.
Devangelist • Nov 15, 2004 12:37 pm
awesome info Ender, see if you can have that guy convert as much as he can, anything we can get helps alot.

I did a google search for blind men's path, and it came up a few times with this short play based on a fable the Persian poet Jalãl al-Din Rümï wrote, I don't know if that's the right reference (he seems to like to reference novels) but it is basically about the problems with human ignorance, political propaganda, etc. etc., but I remember seeing somewhere something about Truth...could Truth be the key? I dunno, heres the web site:

http://www.ecospherics.net/pages/PageBlinM&Eleph.html

This is pretty cool too...because it references both elephants and a Hose (Jobe's wife was plagued by runners and a hose), so maybe this play (or more assumably the original fable) has something to do with this.

[Edit: It turns out this fable was big influence to the american poet John Godfrey Saxe, so if anyone is familiar with his work, maybe we could check that out for any sort of blind men's paths, truths, keys, etc.]
Hajik • Nov 15, 2004 12:58 pm
Not that this really has anything to do with helping you guys, but this guy got me to read a lot of really good books. I like this guy. :thumbsup:
Devangelist • Nov 15, 2004 7:17 pm
ender, TINP is saying that isn't part of the navajo code...where is it that you saw that? like tell me the location and what the navajo words were.
Ender • Nov 15, 2004 9:04 pm
I don't know I will ask my friend exactly which code it was he saw. On another note has anyone found the correlation between the black page, that talks about sitting at a table. And the candle page? It just seems like it should go together, with the blackness, and then the candle lighting the way, and they are both linked off of the Moth links.
Devangelist • Nov 16, 2004 11:58 am
Are you talkin about the "candle" that is made up of a bunch of colored letters?

Because if you are, I think earlier in the thread it said that it was a lighthouse and that the lighthouse had relevance to the boys of Marken, so I assumed that what that was...

But then again, it could have multiple meanings.

I'm gonna kill TINP, I've gotten minimal sleep over his stupid website.
Hajik • Nov 16, 2004 12:55 pm
Hey, anyone figure out what the head on the stake had to do with?
Wrathiel • Nov 16, 2004 9:42 pm
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/cellphone/

Very wierd, listen to all of the messages. Number 3 really freaked me out because my name is Jonathan...

Also...If this isn't new news..and this is kind of wierd like he is watching who is on his puzzle and etc. There are a group of numbers below the Scandinavian Imports truck that if you highlight and put in your address bar lead to the cellar forum topic on "This is not porn."

Strange...

Silverphoenix is number 26...
SilverPhoenix • Nov 16, 2004 11:04 pm
I'm still here. Barely. :D

I'm, right now, as stuck as anyone else.

I suspect that the poem that was posted is actually four (or two) riddles, each line leading to part of the answer.

For instance, my best guess is that "Took a penny" means either 'short' or refers to "being short".
Ionsniper • Nov 17, 2004 12:53 am
Just stumbled on this thread while looking for hints and Im amazed at the progress you all have made thus far. Ive used the hints and strategys used here but cant find the links to the redheaded dummy. However I did stumble on something interesting and not sure if its been posted yet but it looks like a Jail cell upclose or maybe a power station. But it gave me a pop up that I havent seen before on it, it had the msg . . .

Than-ZieNesh-cheeDzehGahDzehMa-eMa-eTKinBe DibehWol-La-CheeGloe-Ih Than-ZieLinKlizzie TKinNesh-chee Ma-eNe-as-jah

DibehDibehDzehNesh-cheeKlizzie-YazziGahWol-La-CheeBe DzenLinThan-Zie Nesh-cheeDzehA-Ken-Di-GliniDzeh

Dont know if both are to be stated together or not but havent seen it posted in the thread before. Btw its around midnight my time so forgive me if it has been posted before. Also it came up in a pop-up when I clicked on the date in the windmill picture.
juuhanna • Nov 17, 2004 9:27 am
Wrathiel wrote:
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/cellphone/

Very wierd, listen to all of the messages. Number 3 really freaked me out because my name is Jonathan...

Also...If this isn't new news..and this is kind of wierd like he is watching who is on his puzzle and etc. There are a group of numbers below the Scandinavian Imports truck that if you highlight and put in your address bar lead to the cellar forum topic on "This is not porn."

Strange...

Silverphoenix is number 26...

I'm too scared to listen to them. T^T I have baaaaaad experiences about turning the speakers loud when listening to a silent message and then having my ears drilled off by loud screaming and stuff. :O

But if anyone's interested, it would be handy to have those messages written down here and also the names of the messages. You never know if he'll decide to delete them or something, so I hope someone'll do it fast.

How did you notice the cellphone-link anyway, Wrathiel? Were you just randomly inserting words to the adderss-bar?
Redneck • Nov 17, 2004 10:19 am
Wrathiel wrote:


There are a group of numbers below the Scandinavian Imports truck that if you highlight and put in your address bar lead to the cellar forum topic on "This is not porn."


This isn't something he did on purpose, it only does that because it searches google for what you put in the address bar and takes you directly to the first match.

Though that would have been cool if it was TINP's doing.
Devangelist • Nov 17, 2004 12:01 pm
juuhanna wrote:
I'm too scared to listen to them. T^T I have baaaaaad experiences about turning the speakers loud when listening to a silent message and then having my ears drilled off by loud screaming and stuff. :O

But if anyone's interested, it would be handy to have those messages written down here and also the names of the messages. You never know if he'll decide to delete them or something, so I hope someone'll do it fast.

How did you notice the cellphone-link anyway, Wrathiel? Were you just randomly inserting words to the adderss-bar?


On the thisisnotporn.com forums he posted that up there.

I highly recommend becoming a member there...

http://www.thisisnotporn.com/forum/index.php
Devangelist • Nov 17, 2004 12:12 pm
Hey, I'm getting a copy of a navajo-english dictionary, so if someone could find as much of the navajo code and copy and paste it onto here, I'll translate as much as possible...

I'm really lazy, so please help me out here. :D
3Engineersandafreak • Nov 17, 2004 12:41 pm
Where did you find the page for the cellphone messages? And does anyone know the number?

Nevermind, I missed that one above about it being on the forums. Was his number there as well? And whatever did happen to Silverphoenix? Will Lassie be able to save Timmy from the well? Stay tuned for the next episode of thisisnotporn.
TurkishGUY • Nov 18, 2004 8:23 pm
ok... im new at this and ive been using Cellar.org to help me. i dont know the password to Audition, Death of a Traveling Salesman. [am i behind?]
perth • Nov 18, 2004 10:21 pm
Did you all know that the Cellar is much more than an FAQ for this dumb game?
Mr. Ears • Nov 19, 2004 2:05 pm
hey guys, for the /5 and /6 pw and un, tinp said you guys were going in to deep
DmgInc • Nov 20, 2004 4:41 am
I don't think this was mentioned yet, and the post saying everyone is going to deep for /5 and /6 made me do some searching for Yuki.

I found this...
http://www.ongaku-online.net/octnov2004/yuki.php

She had a "hit" called "Humming Bird"

Could Yuki's bird be "humming" maybe?
Devangelist • Nov 20, 2004 4:22 pm
i think we need to work on the navajo...

I just ordered a navajo english dictionary so im hoping to work this out...

DibehDibehDzehNesh-cheeKlizzie-YazziGahWol-La-CheeBe DzenLinThan-Zie Nesh-cheeDzehA-Ken-Di-GliniDzeh

Klizzie means goat. I know that much.
elSicomoro • Nov 20, 2004 4:46 pm
perth wrote:
Did you all know that the Cellar is much more than an FAQ for this dumb game?


And this is now one of the most viewed threads in Cellar history...that is sad.
Devangelist • Nov 20, 2004 5:18 pm
The original frankenstein actor's name was Boris Karloff...

Sort of a resemblance to Kris Boruff?
wolf • Nov 20, 2004 5:32 pm
sycamore wrote:
And this is now one of the most viewed threads in Cellar history...that is sad.


Dodads is still way cooler, though.
Undertoad • Nov 20, 2004 6:20 pm
It's Google improving the importance of cellar.org, causing people to select it which again reinforces Google's rankings... that's why I've left it in.
wolf • Nov 20, 2004 8:14 pm
I had been wondering about that. Thanks for the explanation, although it would be interesting to learn how cellar.org became part of this. As I search around there were threads started on numerous message boards in an attempt to get people to join the game, but most of them dwindled and died out after a page or less of posts.
lumberjim • Nov 20, 2004 8:54 pm
pimps gotta keep their pimp hand strong, Internet Overlords have to keep their google hand strong.
Undertoad • Nov 20, 2004 9:23 pm
What happened was this, I think. Cellarites found it and worked the puzzle for a while. Then they got tired of it and dropped it. Five weeks after the thread died, somebody who was working on it came in and posted a post with everything s/he had come up with to that point.

The next day, the googlebots found it. And because the Cellar had a decent ranking before, suddenly people googling for TINP found the Cellar's post of solutions, and from that point other people googling came and started solving it together here.
elSicomoro • Nov 20, 2004 9:47 pm
Now if they'll just stick around and contribute to the rest of the board...
rikc • Nov 21, 2004 3:12 am
Another random hint from someone who just registered, I know how much you guys like that here.

In "Dance Dance Dance", the Sheep Man's dialogue is all in one word, much like the password screens. i.e. "Thewomanleftalonethisafternoon, the Sheep Man said." I doubt this will help much, but you never know. And it's not like I'm the only person posting useless information.

Anyway, I've been following this thread for weeks since I find the puzzles and puzzlesolving interesting. I'm not good enough with riddles to contribute much, so I think I'll go aquaint myself with the other sections of this forum, as it seems like a good one from the lurking I've done.

Good luck.
CelestialChick • Nov 21, 2004 6:06 pm
Hello everybody. I just finally had the time to join this forum, but I've been checking out the "thisisnotporn" website for a few weeks now. I've also seen what others have posted, and I noticed one thing that was forgotten or overlooked. I'm taking you way back to the third page. The one with the words that are spoken and the picture of the truck.

First the words:
Alpha, Hotel, Sierra, Papa, November, Whiskey, Romeo, Sierra, Foxtrot, Romeo.
These words are apart of the NATO phonetic alphabet. It was first used during WWI for offical military use only. I noticed a pause between november and whiskey, but I still don't know what that means. I can't figure out why those words are there.

Second the van:
The adress on the van doesn't exsit. The zip code is for Colorado, but thats all that is true. The adress is fake and so is the company. Also I have been wondering what
words on the bus stand for; Teak, Cherry, Mahogany, Redwood, Leather. All of that stuff had to be put on that van on a photoshop program. It's all too random and it doens't make sense, and I feel that it should.

Third the flashing lines:
The lines that flash at the top of the picture about every minute twenty-so seconds, are not lines, but more numbers. It took me forever to get the numbers, but not that long to decode them. This is what I got what I decoded them.

1590521471 fourth word add s
0060254920 fifth word
0970042809 last word

0679731725 second word minus s
0894803204 fourth word
0736048146 first word

0785265392 first word
0970917902 eight word
1566912431 third word minus s

0974026565 first word
0345406141 third word

1931615039 Second word, First word minus S
0425120058 fourth word, fifth word
0687371376 fourth word, second word

0967518822 fourth word, first word
0151010196 first word
0471225347 first word, ninth word
0517886901 first word, second word

I had no clue what the numbers ment or what the words where. I thought maybe the numbers where phone numbers or zip-codes. Then I realized they are ISBN numbers. I looked them up and found that all of them belong to books that do exsit. The books are all very random from work out books to martha stuart cookbooks. The important thing is that the words in the book titles are what was important. Once I went through and wrote down everything this is what I got.

Hints Are Riddles
Remain Questions Bigger
Date The Await
Calm Remain
To Answer Will Come Your Time
that Weight Those Come to Good Things

It doesn't make much sense at first. But if you rearange the words it does.

Riddles are hints
Questions remain bigger
Await the date
Remain calm
Your time to answer will come
Good things come to those that weight.

I guess it's just a message for us about the game. It could mean nothing at all, but he put it there so it has to mean something. Everything has a meaning.

This is about all that I have at the moment. I am working on some other things now, and will probably be posting some more stuff within the week.
zazkia • Nov 23, 2004 6:01 pm
okay, just some more random bits of information that may help:

about the Hypericum Perforatum page: St. John Wort is also a Japanese movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0293478/)

The Japanese title is: Otogiriso.. and this is what its about:

Nami has been creating artwork for a new video game based on images she's been seeing in her dreams. With one of the game producers, she travels out to an abandoned house that seems to match her visions. As they explore the old mansion, Nami begins to have more visions of a forgotten childhood, until at last she comes across a photo of twin infants, labelled "Nami" and "Naomi". As Nami and the producer go from room to room, an unseen person seems to be watching them from a hidden room.

anyone happen to have seen that? .. seeing as he seems to like referencing Japanese books and movies...

about the redhead robot pages:

1] Piggy Piggy --> this could refer to a lot of things... the nursery rhyme, which makes sense cuz it's about ur 5 fingers, and theres a page called devil with 5 fingers, and there's 5 robot pages..
or maybe its about Lord of the Flies..(has a character named Piggy) .. I dunno

2] We've got ventriloquists --> might refer to the radiohead song 'Kid A' which goes like this:

I slipped away
I slipped on a little white lie

We've got heads on sticks
You've got ventriloquists
(times 2)

Staring at the shadows at the edge of my bed (times 4)

Rats and children'll follow me out of town.
Rats and children follow me out of their homes.

come on kids.


4] Who watches the Watchmen --> Quote from Juvenal, Satires 6..

The Roman author Juvenal (Decimus Junius Juvenalis, c. 60-140 AD) became famous for his Satires, in which he criticized the morals of his time. From a conservative, quasi-provincial point of view, he tried to ridicule the decadence of Rome's society under the reign of the Emperors in contrast to older and better standards -- painting, for example, the loose morals of married women in shrill colors.

In Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347 he writes: "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" which, as you will have guessed, means "who watches the watchmen? "

This was also the basis for a comic by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons (http://www.bry.fast.co.za/~stuartm/rave/cypunx/comix/watch.html)...

5] Fellow of infinite jest... --> refers to Hamlet and a character called Yorick (who is a jester in the king's court)


.. Robert Silvers is the guy who invented photomosaics.. (http://www.photomosaic.com/rt/about.htm) dont really know how that ties in.. but maybe just a hint towards the pages made up of multiple images that we had to use gifshuffle on...

btw.. has anyone tried gifshuffle on the "dont stray from the path" page?
.. I know someone did it for the devil with 5 fingers page.. but the treepage also seems to be made up of several different images.. maybe handy to try that.. but I cant seem to get gifshuffle to work for me..

okay.. thats it for now.. hope someone gets password soon.. been working on this forever...
cowhead • Nov 23, 2004 6:56 pm
I dunno I've looked at this game and long ago decided I'm not smart or persistant enough to f*ck with it... it seems kinda cool tho
Redneck • Nov 24, 2004 4:06 pm
Devangelist wrote:

DibehDibehDzehNesh-cheeKlizzie-YazziGahWol-La-CheeBe DzenLinThan-Zie Nesh-cheeDzehA-Ken-Di-GliniDzeh

translates to: Ssenkrad Eht neve
Reversed: Even the darkness

Is that all of it Devangelist?
zazkia • Nov 24, 2004 5:09 pm
hi :) just thought this might be handy to put up for everyone to see:

Navajo Code Alphabet:

A
Wol-La-Chee or
Be-La-Sana or
Tse-Nill

B
Na-Hash-Chid
Shush
Toish-Jeh

C
Moasi
Tla-Gin
Ba-Goshi

D
Be
Chindi
Lha-Cha-Eh

E
Ah-Jah
Dzeh
Ah-Nah

F
Chuo
Tsa-E-Donin-Ee
Ma-E

G
Ah-Tad
Klizzie
Jeha

H
Tse-Gah
Cha
Lin

I
Tkin
Yeh-Hes
A-Chi

J
Tkele-Cho-G
Ah-Ya-Tsinne
Yil-Doi

K
Jad-Ho-Loni
Ba-Ah-Ne-Di-Tinin
Klizzie-Yazzie

L
Dibeh-Yazzie
Ah-Jad
Nash-Doie-Tso

M
Tsin-Tliti
Be-Tas-Tni
Na-As-Tso-Si

N
Tsah
A-Chin
Nesh-Chee

O
A-Kha
Tlo-Chin
Ne-Ahs-Jah

P
Cla-Gi-Aih
Bi-So-Dih
Ne-Zhoni

Q
Ca-YeilTh

R
Gah
Dah-Nes-Tsa
Ah-Losz

S
Dibeh
Klesh

T
D-Ah
A-Woh
Than-Zie

U
Shi-Da
No-Da-Ih

V
A-Keh-Di-Glini

W
Gloe-Ih

X
Al-Na-As-Dzoh

Y
Tsah-As-Zih

Z
Besh-Do-Tliz

have fun!

(P.S. It's not the complete list obviously.. but it should get you a ways..)
(P.P.S. If you want the whole list, just e-mail this guy: [email]ary@luna.nl[/email] and according to his site he'll send you a complete list..)

P.P.P.S the navajo code on the page with the pipes reads:
Even the darkness of night was different
(backwards)
Redneck • Nov 26, 2004 7:15 pm
Saturday... irc.hack3r.com:6667 #TINP Everyone show up!
mr. TINP himself may be there :)
Devangelist • Nov 28, 2004 3:20 am
There was a town in germany called frankenstein, and now its called Zabkowice Slaskie (Frankenstein now)...the u/n could still be prometheus, but I just thought I'd throw that in...if anyone wants to look up birds of the region (specifically birds of snow) that'd be cool.
Colonel_Parn37 • Nov 28, 2004 8:08 pm
Hello all, I'm new to The Cellar, but I've been following TINP for quite some time.. I thought I would try to throw out some insight and see if anyone can run with it.. TINP gave out this little hint on the TINP forum.

A vanishing elephant caresses with it's feet.
Took a penny.
Jobes wife was plagued by runners and a hose.
A speeding cop made us, with a laundry man on his toes.

Kris said that this clue gives the answer to "Frankenstein now, Yuki's bird."
I notice many lines in this little pseudo-poem relate VERY closely to a song by Little Jimmy Dickens called "May the Bird of Paradise Fly Up Your Nose." Here are some lyrics that relate to the poem..
One fine day as I was a-walkin' down the street
Spied a beggar man with rags upon his feet
Took a penny from my pocket
In his tin cup I did drop it
I heard him say as I made my retreat

CHORUS
"May the bird of paradise fly up your nose"
"May an elephant caress you with his toes"
"May your wife be plagued with runners in her hose"
"May the bird of paradise fly up your nose"

The laundry man is really on his toes
Found a hundred-dollar bill among my clothes
When he called me I came a-runnin'
Gave him back his dime for phonin'
I heard him sayin' as I turned to go

CHORUS

I was way behind one day to catch the train
Taxi driver said "We'll make it just the same"
The speed cop made it with us
And as he wrote out the ticket
I stood by politely a-waitin' for my change

Kris thinks I may be the only person to notice that connection.. But I can't grasp a un/pw from it. I wanted to let you folks know so you guys could try to figure out what I couldn't. Hope this helps. See ya.
zazkia • Nov 29, 2004 5:23 am
hey guys :)

the username and password to Frankenstein\Yuki's Bird are:

username: Prometheus
Password: Paradise

whoohoo!! finally...
Redneck • Nov 29, 2004 6:51 am
Why doesn't that surprise me?

That's not the full pass... but we can go ahead and use it anyways!
zazkia • Nov 29, 2004 7:21 am
hey :)

what do you mean its not the full pass? how do you know?

edit: okay, I get ya ;) .... well it works fine anyway :P
zazkia • Nov 29, 2004 7:27 am
kay..

I translated the navajo code on the new page, and it reads:

'I scarcely talk to the cat anymore' (backwards again)
CelestialChick • Nov 29, 2004 7:13 pm
On the frankenstien page, if you click on the figure's chest a pop-up appears. There is a hand that morphs into a heart, click on this and it brings you to a page with a long repeated phrase with an outlineof something.

The words are from Franz Kafka's book, The Metamorphosis. Of course the orginal version is in German, and there has been many translations of the book, but the closest translation that I could find to the webpage is done by Joachim Neugroschel. Who apparently is an award winning translator.

One morning, upon awakening from agitated dreams, Gregor Samsa found himself, in his bed, transformed into a monstrous vermin.

Supposedly Samsa is tranformed into a giant cockroach, which is what is pictured on the page.



Also on the frankenstien page there is a sword that appears in the top left corner when you click up there. I don't know what the sword is in reference to.
Griff • Nov 29, 2004 9:04 pm
I don't know if this was mentioned yet, but on that Rober Silvers page with the pictures of the freaky robot head, one of the popups has the title 'a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy'. That line is from Shakespeare's play Hamlet and it refers to Yorick, the court jester. Hamlet finds Yorick's skull while digging around in a graveyard and the he does the 'to be or not to be' thing.
Hamlet also says "When we have shuffled off this mortal coil, must give us pause......For who would bear the whips and scorns of time.....but that the dread of something after death"
Maybe that has something to do with how robots don't die? Or maybe about Frankenstein?
juuhanna • Nov 30, 2004 9:24 am
There's no link anymore... I clicked on the character's chest and I get the hand/heart-page but when I click on it it just closes.

[edit] I got to the other page by clicking the hand/hear/lung/whatever-picture now... I wonder why it didn't work at the first times I tried? =/
thisismynicknam • Nov 30, 2004 1:51 pm
Did anybody notice that, on the page with the fish that says "I wouldn't be able to wash it off." after clicking on one of the many spots on the Frankenstein page, it says the picture was taken by Kristian Boruff - December 3, 1841?

There is likely significance in this date.
CelestialChick • Nov 30, 2004 4:08 pm
Yeah I noticed that date too. I've been trying to find something on that date and I found that Mary Shelly, the author of Frankenstein, her son graduated from Trinity University in 1841. But I don't think that has anything to do with it.

Also when you click on the biohazard symbol you get a pop-up of the distorted tunnel. The picture is said to be taken on an idle tuesday. The only things I could find about an idle tuesday is that it was mentioned in that song "sunscreen" by Baz Luhrmann.

The real troubles in your life are apt to be things that never crossed your worried mind; the kind that blindside you at 4pm on some idle Tuesday




This is kinda out there but "Dance, Dance, Dance" is also a song by Frankie Yankovic. The song was on his 1997 album Dance Little Bird. For those of you who don't know Yankovic is the King of Polka in America.
juuhanna • Nov 30, 2004 4:36 pm
I was so sure I had found something... I was also looking for something about that day, but couldn't find anything accurate.
I tried combining the date with different words, and with word "lighthouse" I found out that Santa Clara Island Lighthouse was finished on December 1st 1841.
I misread the date to be Dec. 3rd and I was all "woohoo, maybe this'll lead somewhere" and then I noticed it was in fact Dec. 1st. *sigh*

I've been wondering about the Hypericum Perforatum-page. Has anyone found out anything new about it?
BigV • Dec 1, 2004 2:25 pm
First, great thanks for the efforts at solving and posting this puzzle. All of you have not taken the enjoyment out of the puzzle, only the grief and frustration. I am indebted to you.

I read through ALL the posts before I submitted this, because I didn't want to embarass myself by not R[ing]TFM. I have plenty of other ways to embarass myself.

While on the http://thisisnotporn.com/see/TimeFlows.htm page, I was trying to view the source. So I highlighted the whole page, (Crtl-a), I right clicked and saw a new (to me) choice in the menu: Look Ahead. I indulged and was rewarded with five new pages opening in my browser (Firefox). They are:

http://home.mho.net/jswaby/fb_scrn.html

http://www.noidearecords.com/discography.html

http://utenti.lycos.it/foundfig/000.htm

http://www.yelloworb.com/privat/skidor/vald'isere2004/kalles/index_kalles.html

http://www.hairspray.nu/pic/20040731PRIDE/

I offer this discovery in exchange for all the help I've received to this point, as I join the good fight.

The thread is not dead, I only found it recently. Also, I joined The Cellar for other reasons, but this is a nice complementary reason.
Devangelist • Dec 1, 2004 5:32 pm
Wherever the "Thoughtyou'dgetheresooner" thing was, that's a reference to the dolphin hotel, the sheep man was saying he thought the main character would return sooner...

and this:
------------------
We faced each other across a small table, talking. The table was very old, round, set with one candle in the middle. The candle had been stuck directly onto a saucer. And that was the entire inventory of furnish*ings in the room. There weren't any chairs. We sat on piles of books.

It was the Sheep Man's room.

Narrow and cramped. The walls and ceiling had the feel*ing of the old Dolphin Hotel, but it wasn't the old hotel either. At the far end of the room was a window, boarded up from inside. Boarded up a long time ago, if the rusty nails and gray dust in the cracks of the boards were any indica*tion. The room was a rectangular box. No lights. No closet. No bath. No bed. He must've slept on the floor, wrapped in his sheep costume.

There was barely enough room to walk. The floor was lit*tered with yellowing old books and newspapers and scrap-books filled with clippings. Some were worm-eaten, falling apart at their bindings. All, from what I could tell, having to do with the history of sheep in Hokkaido. All, probably, from the archive at the old Dolphin Hotel. The sheep refer*ence room, which the owner's father, the Sheep Professor, pretty much lived in. What ever became of him?

The Sheep Man looked at me across the flickering candle
flame. Behind him, his disproportionately enormous shadow played over a grimy wall...
------------

We saw this in the earlier lights...Hide Your Sorrows' picture is a candle (i remember some people leaning towards it being a lighthouse), and it also contains the text bits at the bottom of the "shovel that good snow" page...I don't know if it's all old news but I figured maybe there was reference somewhere...

------------
«Yes, I came back,» I said. «I couldn't get this place out of my mind. I tried to forget things, but then something else would pop up. So it didn't matter whether I liked it or not, I sort of knew I belonged here. I didn't really know what that meant either, but I knew it anyway. In my dreams about this place, I was . . . part of everything. Someone was crying for me here. Someone wanted me. That's why I came back. What is this place anyway?»

The Sheep Man looked me easy in the face and shook his head. «'Fraidwedon'tknowmuch. It'srealbig, it'srealdark. All-weknow'sthisroom. Beyondhere, wedon'tknow. Butanyway, you'rehere, somust'vebeentime. Timeyoufoundyourwayhere. Wayweseeit, atleast. ...» The Sheep Man paused to rumi*nate. «Maybesomebody'scryingforyou, throughthisplace. Somebodywhoknewyou, knewyou'dbeheadinghereanyway. Likeabird, comingbacktothenest. . . . Butlet'sussayitdifferent. Ifyouweren'tcomingbackhere, thisplacewouldn'texist.»
------------

Theres that bird-nest riddle thing from way-back-when.

He also says that they (the sheep man(s)...he's talking plural) connect things, reconnect things...was there like a specific quote or reference to reconnecting things? I cant remember...

When the sheepman says stayhere, you'llfreeze, etc., he's talking about multiple realities, and that they chose this one, being that they "don'tlikewar", that the main character still has warmth, and that it's too cold here...

I dunno, see what you can do with it...If you can do anything with it.
Devangelist • Dec 1, 2004 5:39 pm
BigV wrote:
First, great thanks for the efforts at solving and posting this puzzle. All of you have not taken the enjoyment out of the puzzle, only the grief and frustration. I am indebted to you.

I read through ALL the posts before I submitted this, because I didn't want to embarass myself by not R[ing]TFM. I have plenty of other ways to embarass myself.

While on the http://thisisnotporn.com/see/TimeFlows.htm page, I was trying to view the source. So I highlighted the whole page, (Crtl-a), I right clicked and saw a new (to me) choice in the menu: Look Ahead. I indulged and was rewarded with five new pages opening in my browser (Firefox). They are:

http://home.mho.net/jswaby/fb_scrn.html

http://www.noidearecords.com/discography.html

http://utenti.lycos.it/foundfig/000.htm

http://www.yelloworb.com/privat/skidor/vald'isere2004/kalles/index_kalles.html

http://www.hairspray.nu/pic/20040731PRIDE/

I offer this discovery in exchange for all the help I've received to this point, as I join the good fight.

The thread is not dead, I only found it recently. Also, I joined The Cellar for other reasons, but this is a nice complementary reason.



Where did you get all that from? Cuz...I did the same thing but didn't find the look ahead thing...not doubting you or anything, but could you be more specific about where this "look ahead" thing is? I'd like to be sure of this before I bring it up elsewhere.
Miska • Dec 1, 2004 6:06 pm
zazkia wrote:
oh, and one more thing... remember on the very first page.. the numbers you heard in the background? :
check out http://www.spynumbers.com/

( "59372 98324 19043 78903 95320...". The mechanized female voice drones on and on... What have you stumbled on to? Instructions to spies? Messages exchanged between drug dealers? Deliberate attempts at deception and mis-information?

Chances are, all of the above! What you've tuned in to is called a "Spy Numbers Station". They've been on the air for several decades, and only recently have the mysteries started to unfold. But there's still much we don't know about these mysterious stations. With the information on these pages, you'll discover the little that we do know about these stations, what we're still trying to learn, and how you too can tune in to the spies.)


dont know if that helps any.. but oh well... :)



Drat! Looks as though I've been beaten to it. I'm a huge fan of numbers stations, the transmissions on TINP were one of the first things I had noticed. On the page with the truck someone else mentioned the Phonetic Alphabet station. It's similar to the one on the Conet Project except that in the one on the Conet Project she never says Whiskey. Also, I don't think the transmission was used as the person who first posted about it said. The accent is thought to be Mossad. She is the same announcer from the on the CP, this is obvious because of her pronunciation of November.

All in all, that guy's pretty clever to have put numbers/phonetic alphabet transmissions into TINP seeing as they enhance the scary feeling.

Sorry that that wasn't very helpful and sorry about how hard my post was to understand. I have trouble relaying my thoughts into words.
juuhanna • Dec 1, 2004 6:19 pm
Miska wrote:
On the page with the truck someone else mentioned the Phonetic Alphabet station. It's similar to the one on the Conet Project except that in the one on the Conet Project she never says Whiskey.



So it's the same words with same voice except with one word added or something..?
Miska • Dec 1, 2004 9:38 pm
Well, I'm going to assume that it's the same people broadcasting it, just a different transmission intended for different people. I don't know how much relevance it will have to the overall puzzle of TINP. You see, it's the same voice synthesizer, just a different transmission.

Also, I did some research about Edith Head (it interested me). Most of you probably knew this already but she was a costume designer for some movies. If this has already been dicovered just let me know. If not I will be more than happy to post a link to the information.
BigV • Dec 1, 2004 9:58 pm
Dev-

I have Firefox 1.0 installed and a few choice extensions. One of them is Look Ahead. Here is the homepage:

http://lookahead.mozdev.org/

I have very little experience with it so far, but it looks really cool.

Both the browser Firefox and the extension are free, and a big improvement over IE. I recommend them most highly.
Miska • Dec 3, 2004 12:58 pm
About Frankenstien Now, Yuki's Bird.... There is another book by the same author of Dance Dance Dance called The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle, maybe it has something to do with it? I'm pretty sure this hasn't been posted before but if it has just let me know.
metalrockster • Dec 3, 2004 4:57 pm
I think this is where the whole freaking world is stuck at :dead:
im gonna choke the sh*t out of this guy if i dont figure this out
metalrockster • Dec 3, 2004 5:10 pm
Wherever the "Thoughtyou'dgetheresooner" thing was, that's a reference to the dolphin hotel, the sheep man was saying he thought the main character would return sooner...

and this:
------------------
We faced each other across a small table, talking. The table was very old, round, set with one candle in the middle. The candle had been stuck directly onto a saucer. And that was the entire inventory of furnish*ings in the room. There weren't any chairs. We sat on piles of books.

It was the Sheep Man's room.

Narrow and cramped. The walls and ceiling had the feel*ing of the old Dolphin Hotel, but it wasn't the old hotel either. At the far end of the room was a window, boarded up from inside. Boarded up a long time ago, if the rusty nails and gray dust in the cracks of the boards were any indica*tion. The room was a rectangular box. No lights. No closet. No bath. No bed. He must've slept on the floor, wrapped in his sheep costume.

There was barely enough room to walk. The floor was lit*tered with yellowing old books and newspapers and scrap-books filled with clippings. Some were worm-eaten, falling apart at their bindings. All, from what I could tell, having to do with the history of sheep in Hokkaido. All, probably, from the archive at the old Dolphin Hotel. The sheep refer*ence room, which the owner's father, the Sheep Professor, pretty much lived in. What ever became of him?

The Sheep Man looked at me across the flickering candle
flame. Behind him, his disproportionately enormous shadow played over a grimy wall...
------------

We saw this in the earlier lights...Hide Your Sorrows' picture is a candle (i remember some people leaning towards it being a lighthouse), and it also contains the text bits at the bottom of the "shovel that good snow" page...I don't know if it's all old news but I figured maybe there was reference somewhere...

------------
«Yes, I came back,» I said. «I couldn't get this place out of my mind. I tried to forget things, but then something else would pop up. So it didn't matter whether I liked it or not, I sort of knew I belonged here. I didn't really know what that meant either, but I knew it anyway. In my dreams about this place, I was . . . part of everything. Someone was crying for me here. Someone wanted me. That's why I came back. What is this place anyway?»

The Sheep Man looked me easy in the face and shook his head. «'Fraidwedon'tknowmuch. It'srealbig, it'srealdark. All-weknow'sthisroom. Beyondhere, wedon'tknow. Butanyway, you'rehere, somust'vebeentime. Timeyoufoundyourwayhere. Wayweseeit, atleast. ...» The Sheep Man paused to rumi*nate. «Maybesomebody'scryingforyou, throughthisplace. Somebodywhoknewyou, knewyou'dbeheadinghereanyway. Likeabird, comingbacktothenest. . . . Butlet'sussayitdifferent. Ifyouweren'tcomingbackhere, thisplacewouldn'texist.»
------------

Theres that bird-nest ggriddle (that should say r i d d le, evidently it gets changed to "griddle") thing from way-back-when.

He also says that they (the sheep man(s)...he's talking plural) connect things, reconnect things...was there like a specific quote or reference to reconnecting things? I cant remember...

When the sheepman says stayhere, you'llfreeze, etc., he's talking about multiple realities, and that they chose this one, being that they "don'tlikewar", that the main character still has warmth, and that it's too cold here...

I dunno, see what you can do with it...If you can do anything with it.
metalrockster • Dec 3, 2004 5:56 pm
https://www.bloomington.ivytech.edu/ivytech/news/media_releases/2003/deans_list.shtml

theres a kristian e boruff on there
CelestialChick • Dec 3, 2004 9:39 pm
Yeah I stumbled across that al while about a month ago. I wanted to find something on Kristian Boruff and came across that same website. But I forgot about it 'cause my roommate thought I was getting obessed with knowing everything about TINP. But I wish I could of found a picture.
Devangelist • Dec 4, 2004 1:14 am
metalrockster wrote:
Wherever the "Thoughtyou'dgetheresooner" thing was, that's a reference to the dolphin hotel, the sheep man was saying he thought the main character would return sooner...

and this:
------------------
We faced each other across a small table, talking. The table was very old, round, set with one candle in the middle. The candle had been stuck directly onto a saucer. And that was the entire inventory of furnish*ings in the room. There weren't any chairs. We sat on piles of books.

It was the Sheep Man's room.

Narrow and cramped. The walls and ceiling had the feel*ing of the old Dolphin Hotel, but it wasn't the old hotel either. At the far end of the room was a window, boarded up from inside. Boarded up a long time ago, if the rusty nails and gray dust in the cracks of the boards were any indica*tion. The room was a rectangular box. No lights. No closet. No bath. No bed. He must've slept on the floor, wrapped in his sheep costume.

There was barely enough room to walk. The floor was lit*tered with yellowing old books and newspapers and scrap-books filled with clippings. Some were worm-eaten, falling apart at their bindings. All, from what I could tell, having to do with the history of sheep in Hokkaido. All, probably, from the archive at the old Dolphin Hotel. The sheep refer*ence room, which the owner's father, the Sheep Professor, pretty much lived in. What ever became of him?

The Sheep Man looked at me across the flickering candle
flame. Behind him, his disproportionately enormous shadow played over a grimy wall...
------------

We saw this in the earlier lights...Hide Your Sorrows' picture is a candle (i remember some people leaning towards it being a lighthouse), and it also contains the text bits at the bottom of the "shovel that good snow" page...I don't know if it's all old news but I figured maybe there was reference somewhere...

------------
«Yes, I came back,» I said. «I couldn't get this place out of my mind. I tried to forget things, but then something else would pop up. So it didn't matter whether I liked it or not, I sort of knew I belonged here. I didn't really know what that meant either, but I knew it anyway. In my dreams about this place, I was . . . part of everything. Someone was crying for me here. Someone wanted me. That's why I came back. What is this place anyway?»

The Sheep Man looked me easy in the face and shook his head. «'Fraidwedon'tknowmuch. It'srealbig, it'srealdark. All-weknow'sthisroom. Beyondhere, wedon'tknow. Butanyway, you'rehere, somust'vebeentime. Timeyoufoundyourwayhere. Wayweseeit, atleast. ...» The Sheep Man paused to rumi*nate. «Maybesomebody'scryingforyou, throughthisplace. Somebodywhoknewyou, knewyou'dbeheadinghereanyway. Likeabird, comingbacktothenest. . . . Butlet'sussayitdifferent. Ifyouweren'tcomingbackhere, thisplacewouldn'texist.»
------------

Theres that bird-nest ggriddle (that should say r i d d le, evidently it gets changed to "griddle") thing from way-back-when.

He also says that they (the sheep man(s)...he's talking plural) connect things, reconnect things...was there like a specific quote or reference to reconnecting things? I cant remember...

When the sheepman says stayhere, you'llfreeze, etc., he's talking about multiple realities, and that they chose this one, being that they "don'tlikewar", that the main character still has warmth, and that it's too cold here...

I dunno, see what you can do with it...If you can do anything with it.


If you're gonna steal my work, please give me some credit. ;)
metalrockster • Dec 4, 2004 3:12 pm
oh, thats from devangelist :D sorry bro
metalrockster • Dec 4, 2004 3:13 pm
im sitting here right now with frankenstein, death of a salesman, and metamorphosis, and their cliffnotes. ill post it here if i find any clues
metalrockster • Dec 4, 2004 3:25 pm
does anyone know the password for the secret forum???

never mind, i got in. anyone figure out audition, death of a traveling salesman? i think the password is starved. i need a username though.
Mr. Ears • Dec 6, 2004 1:45 pm
whats the password for the secret forum?
metalrockster • Dec 6, 2004 3:55 pm
do a google for the terrible secret
Naldo • Dec 6, 2004 4:30 pm
ok, for the frank/yuki page,

username: Prometheus
Password: Paradise

can someone explain why? i hate just gettin the pw's. can someone please explain...and why are they not the full passwords...
Devangelist • Dec 6, 2004 9:16 pm
people, DONT give away the secret forum password, i can't stress that, let's keep one thing secret so people have to work for something for a change instead of mooching.
metalrockster • Dec 7, 2004 3:51 pm
thank you, john madden.
Redneck • Dec 8, 2004 12:47 pm
Naldo, the username is easy to figure out... it's been the suspected username since we started trying to figure it out... The password is believed to be something like Paradise Lost or something similar, however the host only allows for 8 character passwords so Paradise (anything) will work!
Miska • Dec 8, 2004 5:14 pm
I hope this topic doesn't die. :(
Devangelist • Dec 10, 2004 12:02 pm
heres the official forums

It's updated more often and then we dont have to worry about cellar people getting mad at us for using their boards. :p
wolf • Dec 10, 2004 12:52 pm
Not entirely mad. Just really, really confused.
xX_duckie_Xx • Dec 12, 2004 12:47 am
I have actueally known about TINP for a long time now but i never really got anywhere. I read all the posts here in one day (wow) and now i'm caught up.
so for one thank you to everyone who posted to help me figure this out (i would of never even known about DANCE DANCE DANCE without you people ^^)

if i figure anything out i'll be sure to post
Tyrael • Dec 12, 2004 6:29 pm
Wow, finally people who explain stuff insted of wise-cracks...
I just have a quick question. Anybody have any leads on the MY EYES ARE BURNING page?
Tyrael • Dec 12, 2004 6:56 pm
This is what I've got for the MY EYES ARE BURNING page:
WhatALovelyDrapeTheyMake - I got this when I searched google:
What a lovely drape they make,
The eyes that see the claws that catch

Anybody know where that comes from?

Next, all the prompts:
Click on black circle thing: new image, click anywhere to read: "What's Happened To Me?"
Click on lower-left section: new image, click anywhere to read: "Did I kill Kiki?"
Lower-Right section: "SHE IS HIDDEN. THREE ITEMS."
And can somebody tell me why the dagger disappears when I double click in the uppper-left?
Okay, last Prompt: Click on eyes: DzehGahNe-as-jahNa-as-tso-siTsah-as-zihNesh-cheeWol-La-Chaa Than-ZieWol-La-CheeMoasi
DzehLinThan-Zie Ne-as-jahThan-Zie Klizzie-YazziDibeh-YazziWol-La-CheeThan-Zie
Tsah-as-zihDibeh-YassiDzehMoasiGahWol-La-CheeMoasiDibeh TKin

GOD would I love for someone to explain all that to me...
Devangelist • Dec 12, 2004 10:06 pm
Tyrael wrote:
This is what I've got for the MY EYES ARE BURNING page:
WhatALovelyDrapeTheyMake - I got this when I searched google:
What a lovely drape they make,
The eyes that see the claws that catch

Anybody know where that comes from?

Next, all the prompts:
Click on black circle thing: new image, click anywhere to read: "What's Happened To Me?"
Click on lower-left section: new image, click anywhere to read: "Did I kill Kiki?"
Lower-Right section: "SHE IS HIDDEN. THREE ITEMS."
And can somebody tell me why the dagger disappears when I double click in the uppper-left?
Okay, last Prompt: Click on eyes: DzehGahNe-as-jahNa-as-tso-siTsah-as-zihNesh-cheeWol-La-Chaa Than-ZieWol-La-CheeMoasi
DzehLinThan-Zie Ne-as-jahThan-Zie Klizzie-YazziDibeh-YazziWol-La-CheeThan-Zie
Tsah-as-zihDibeh-YassiDzehMoasiGahWol-La-CheeMoasiDibeh TKin

GOD would I love for someone to explain all that to me...


go to the official forums!
Tyrael • Dec 12, 2004 10:20 pm
New development! On the 1 2 site (clicking on date in Robert Silvers Page, 3rd light from the back) THIS is what NOW is in the popup:
Than-Zie Nesh-chee Dzeh Gah Dzeh Ma-e Ma-e Tkin Be Dibeh Wol-La-Chee Gloe-Ih
Than-Zie Lin Klizzie Tkin Nesh-chee Ma-e Ne-as-jah
Dibeh Dibeh Dzeh Nesh-chee Klizzie-Yazzi Gah Wol-La-Chee Be Dzeh Lin Than-Zie
Nesh-chee Dzeh A-Keh-Di-Glini Dzeh
This translated into:

Even the darkness of night was different


Why am I posting this? Because the earlier So-Far Walkthru in earlier posts in this thread had a different text in the popup, according to what was posted. Hope this gives someone a new lead.
Anybody got any ideas?
Miska • Dec 13, 2004 1:15 pm
I finished Dance Dance Dance yesterday. Shovel that good snow is how the main character described a night with Mei, the prostitute. I don't think this was posted before.

The part about "There was nothing I could do. He had disappeared." was about Gotanda, the main character's friend. They were havin' some drinks at a bar to discuss the murder of Kiki. When the main character went to get more beers Gotanda left and killed himself.
CelestialChick • Dec 15, 2004 2:39 pm
What is the date of the countdown? I can't remember it.
zazkia • Dec 15, 2004 5:51 pm
Jun 6 2005 11:38:00
xX_duckie_Xx • Dec 15, 2004 6:48 pm
on the MY EYES ARE BURNING HELL page if you click the circle with the white scratches you get a picture of fish.... i did a view source on the page and i got this:

//-->I am a smuts innuendo.

it only appears in the sourcecode... does it mean anything to anyone?

-> "she is hidden 3 items" could this be a clue to an item and it was just hidden?
Tyrael • Dec 16, 2004 2:54 am
I believe that the 3 items are the 3 prompts you get from clicking on certain areas of that page.
collyer_1 • Dec 16, 2004 11:41 am
CelestialChick wrote:

Hints Are Riddles
Remain Questions Bigger
Date The Await
Calm Remain
To Answer Will Come Your Time
that Weight Those Come to Good Things

It doesn't make much sense at first. But if you rearange the words it does.

Riddles are hints
Questions remain bigger
Await the date
Remain calm
Your time to answer will come
Good things come to those that weight.

I guess it's just a message for us about the game. It could mean nothing at all, but he put it there so it has to mean something. Everything has a meaning.

This is about all that I have at the moment. I am working on some other things now, and will probably be posting some more stuff within the week.


Remember that from way long ago? Does anyone else remember the window at the beggining the "Help I'm Drowning" window? I viewed the source code of that window a long while ago. Within is a javascript countdown for "Jun 6 2005 11:38:00" I think the two re related.

Apologies if this has previously been brought up.
XRedBlazeX • Dec 16, 2004 10:28 pm
Hi everyone, I'm new here and have been using this thread to try to solve TIMP (like most of the other posters here.) I haven't come across any breakthroughs, but to aid you in your search I'm going to create a map of what's been discovered thus far. I'll probably get around to updating it within a day or two of a new discovery so you gotta have patience.

Oh, and I'll post the map sometime soon, it's not finished yet.



Also what do you guys think is going on during June 6th? Did someone google that? It might not be as much of a countdown as it is a clue. You should check for some special event on that day.
ofrignya7 • Dec 17, 2004 12:11 am
Has anyone tried googling for "IJsselmeer, tragedy, boy"? I tried that after reading the bit about the massive loss of life at ZuiderZee or whatever, and two links seemed somewhat suspicious-
Image

If anyone wants to read through those and make sense of them, be my guest. I coudn't, but you've all been at this longer.
wolf • Dec 17, 2004 1:22 am
I don't play the game. I don't understand the game. I don't really pay much attention to most of this thread.

But have any of you read the story of the Little Dutch Boy?
XRedBlazeX • Dec 17, 2004 1:41 pm
Someone should make a list of what's not explained yet, so everyone knows exactly what to do. Someone should also get Yellowbolt and SilverPheonix back here. I googled the countdown date and time, got nothing. Is there any significance in the fact that we don't know whether it's AM or PM? And why is June, a four-letter word, abreviated?

I was reading over this thread (which I printed, in it's entirety) in the free time I had after my high-school semester final exams and came up with a bunch of stuff:
-Regarding the 'Hide Your Sorrows' to the Miska said that "Shovel that good snow" was taken from a scene in DDD; could someone who has the book check that section of it for a reference to a candle (or maybe a lighthouse)
-For the distorted tunnel you can find by going to the Frankenstein page, I can't try it untill later but I think you might be able undistort the image. It looks like nothing's been changed but a simple swirl: maybe there's something there?


Reguarding CelestialChick's findings: I think the second line might be "Bigger Questions Remain", and the first one could go either way ("Hints are Riddles" or "Riddles are Hints")

I might have some more to post later, but my friend's bugging me so I've gotta go.
Clodfobble • Dec 17, 2004 1:44 pm
How is it that you've read through and even printed this entire thread, and yet you missed the point where the location and password of the TINP forums was provided?
Undertoad • Dec 17, 2004 1:48 pm
They've all missed the point that some of the most important clues* can be found by actively participating in the Cellar.


*[SIZE=1]clues to other things in life than TINP[/size]
wolf • Dec 17, 2004 2:14 pm
It's probably better that they are safely contained in here for the time being.

Kind of like how the CDC keeps that smallpox in the freezer ...
Elspode • Dec 17, 2004 5:03 pm
I think it is kind of cute how they use The Cellar and don't even acknowledge the actual residents herein. It is sort of like the cyber version of letting your dog crap on someone else's lawn, and then walking away while they stare at you out of their window.
glatt • Dec 17, 2004 5:14 pm
Yeah, but they are kind of like squatters. And having squatted in this corner of the Cellar for so long, they now own this corner. We are actually intruding in a way by posting off-topic comments in their thread. If you wanted to join their conversation, they would let you in.
Griff • Dec 17, 2004 5:40 pm
Now we have something to discuss! Theories of ownership. Where the hell is Radar? Squatting is all well and good but some folks say you must make improvements to take ownership. Has this little corner of cyberspace been improved? Just asking even though I'm pretty much with the dog shit on the yard crowd.
XRedBlazeX • Dec 17, 2004 8:59 pm
lol... well the vast number of people coming here and posting just because of TINP shows you how addicting this is... It's plagueing our minds O.o
A good ninja • Dec 18, 2004 9:17 pm
Did anyone try searching "wreathus" on google? I got the name wreathus from searching "Ijselmeer, tragedy, boy". There's a bunch of numbers and mixed up sentences that look like they could be hints.

And also a certain name came up a few times "Noemata". There's a good chance it has nothing to do with TINP...
XRedBlazeX • Dec 19, 2004 3:04 pm
A good ninja wrote:
Did anyone try searching "wreathus" on google? I got the name wreathus from searching "Ijselmeer, tragedy, boy". There's a bunch of numbers and mixed up sentences that look like they could be hints.

And also a certain name came up a few times "Noemata". There's a good chance it has nothing to do with TINP...

I'll look into it...

Turns out the countdown date is the 61st anniversary of D-Day. Might be significant, might not. There are a lot of World War references though, like the Navajo code and the radio transmissions in the background of some pages.
xX_duckie_Xx • Dec 19, 2004 9:39 pm
XRedBlazeX wrote:
I'll look into it...

Turns out the countdown date is the 61st anniversary of D-Day. Might be significant, might not. There are a lot of World War references though, like the Navajo code and the radio transmissions in the background of some pages.



yea thats true... that information might be handy for some future part of TINP
collyer_1 • Dec 20, 2004 11:30 am
Conspiracy Theory:

TINP is planning something, or is perhaps just taking a joke a little too far to scare people. All over the page we find creepy messages like "a life half lived" and the "help I'm drowning" page. (This has been brought up before but) maybe TINP knows of something that will happen on Jun 6, either that, or he's going to make something happen. The web-site may be the key to stopping whatever event TINP has planned. :eek:

I personally don't believe what I just said, but it makes a neat little conspiracy theory :D !
XRedBlazeX • Dec 20, 2004 6:05 pm
collyer_1 wrote:
Conspiracy Theory:

TINP is planning something, or is perhaps just taking a joke a little too far to scare people. All over the page we find creepy messages like "a life half lived" and the "help I'm drowning" page. (This has been brought up before but) maybe TINP knows of something that will happen on Jun 6, either that, or he's going to make something happen. The web-site may be the key to stopping whatever event TINP has planned. :eek:

I personally don't believe what I just said, but it makes a neat little conspiracy theory :D !

Haha yeah, some people have already suggested that he could be a mentally unstable serial killer :cool:
metalrockster • Dec 20, 2004 6:33 pm
lmfao... dont do drugs...
Mr. Ears • Dec 21, 2004 1:56 pm
well, whatever it is they are doing, i want some
xX_duckie_Xx • Dec 21, 2004 11:21 pm
Mr. Ears wrote:
well, whatever it is they are doing, i want some


yea me too :lol:



:spam1:
SilverPhoenix • Dec 22, 2004 9:43 am
SilverPhoenix, for one, hasn't gone away. Dunno where Yellowcard's wandered off to, though.

I don't really have any new comments to make, if only because I currently don't have any more clue about how to put the /6/-clues together than anyone else here.

regarding Cellar itself: I lurk around a couple of the other threads, though I don't think I've actually said anything anywhere else.

[edit: stupid typos :D)
XRedBlazeX • Dec 22, 2004 1:36 pm
Has anyone gotten close to solving "Audition, Death of a Travelling Salesman"? Does anyone have any new ideas?
Kine • Dec 22, 2004 9:12 pm
XRedBlazeX wrote:
Has anyone gotten close to solving "Audition, Death of a Travelling Salesman"? Does anyone have any new ideas?


This is what I figure:
In a Wild Sheep chase, the Rat mentions that he was at one point a traveling salesman, and he later on dies. So he might have something to do with it, or then again I could be wrong.
Also as chance has it, I was watching Family Guy the other day (there's something about Paulie) and Meg had auditioned for the Death of a Salesman.
For Audition however...no clue :(
Hajik • Dec 23, 2004 12:51 pm
Audition was a japenese movie, really weird movie. Good none the less though, worth a watch. Look up the plot for more info. Considering the movie it probably does have something to do with the site. Well that's my two cents :thumbsup:
XRedBlazeX • Dec 23, 2004 5:46 pm
I'll try to get around to seeing that sometime. I'll also try to read/see Death of a Salesman soon too.

I also finally took that distorted tunnel into photoshop and unswirled it, there's nothing there though.
Miska • Dec 23, 2004 8:39 pm
About the candle/lighthouse and its possible connection the "Shovel that Good Snow" - I would have to re-read the whole book to find the exact place where he said something about shoveling good snow. He mentions shoveling snow a lot. He uses it mainly to describe his job, he says that it's like shoveling snow - someone has to do it.

If it is a lighthouse and not a candle, there is one connection I can make, Gotanda drove his Maserati (The one with the 'Curse of the Maserati) into the ocean. You find lighthouses by the ocean.

WE ARE CONNECTED - That is what the main character realized. He realized that he, Mei, Kiki, Yuki, Gotanda, The Organization, The Sheepman, Ame, Dick North, and pretty much everyone else was connected. He later made a diagram.

Image
XRedBlazeX • Dec 23, 2004 11:37 pm
Yeah... I just saw that today (I still need to get around to reading Dance Dance Dance.) The one on the site with the whole text of the book is easier to read:

Image



http://yanko.lib.ru/books/lit/engl/murakami-dance-engl.htm
Kine • Dec 25, 2004 1:23 am
OK, I checked out the source for kiki.jpg, and it came up in characters, so I selected and pasted it in Microsoft Word and this came up:
ÿØÿà
I searched it around and found this:
http://www.gnoosic.com/discussion/yoya.html
where near the bottom it said this:
____________________________________________________
you need ÿØÿà in your life, it's essential viva ÿØÿà!!!

>>By ÿØÿà-lover

and then this:

keith.watanabe at g3s
Watanabe was one of Murakami's characters in Norwegian Wood


any ideas?
XRedBlazeX • Dec 25, 2004 3:45 pm
keith.watanabe at g3s
Watanabe was one of Murakami's characters in Norwegian Wood

Where'd you get this from?
Kine • Dec 25, 2004 8:19 pm
hang on - history.

here:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/modperl/embperl/15846

doubt it has anything to do with it;I'm making stabs in the dark.
Kine • Dec 25, 2004 8:31 pm
When the seaborne units began to land about 6:30 AM on June 6, the British and Canadians on Gold, Juno, and Sword beaches overcame light opposition. So did the Americans at Utah. The American 1st Division at Omaha Beach, however, confronted the best of the German coast divisions, the 352nd, and was roughly handled. During the morning, its landing threatened to fail. Only dedicated local leadership eventually got the troops inland.

61st Anniversary
Masterofmayhem • Dec 25, 2004 10:34 pm
ok lets skip the "I'm new" crap. I have been trying to work on TINP on and off since June. I am 14 years old, so i do not have as much intelligence to offer here as other members do, but i have experience. I have a member of the forums for Videogamedc, GameFAQs, TINP, and of course yours. In each I have persued TINP with minimal success. in VGDC, it died after 8 pages. I have information about TINP that you do not have posted here, yet I cannot think of aff the top of my head. ask me various questions and I will look them up. in GameFAQs, they made it to the page with the car driving away and the music. this brings up a fact. that song that is playing is the theme song from the video game "Alien", I think. it was on the Atari if i recall. ill get my source in a bit. I am a member of the TINP forums under the username "messedupmayhem". SilverPhoenix, look for me.

I am at my moms job and I am on her computer with high speed internet. I have dial up at home so dont expect quick replys from me. i do have many programs for the computer that can help us work.

relating to TINP:

My friend notice that his forums become a link(again. excluding the time they were part of the oven animation). But, today(Dec. 25th) he has updated his site, and now has a link to a new page in his site. his forums are down. I will post it in a bit.

I have him on AOL Instant Messenger. If you do not have his screen name, i can give it to you.

Email from him:

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I responded with this:

yea, i noticed that when i tried to go to your forums today. My friend pointed out your forums were back up a few days ago. i tried again, and i watched your new movie. i have freeze framed your movie and noticed the movement. also, the "gasmask"-like face frame in the very end. I am sorry to regret that i do not have sound on the computer i am on right now. therefore, i cannot listen to it(I kno it has spooky music or something).

I would have to say that you are the most creative genious mind that I have ever come across. i would love to meet you in person, but your location is mysterious. you have an American based phone number which is now gone, and you have made numerous trips to Germany.

I have been working with many forums, including VGDC, GameFAQs, yours, and now Cellar. You are a member of each. and also, I would love to become a moderator in your forum.

I kno its not much of a compliment from a 14 year old, but you should feel glad to know.

I will solve your puzzle no matter what. I swear.

Just one last question:
where is it that you reside?


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I will help the best I can.
Miska • Dec 25, 2004 10:36 pm
I am reading the Wind-Up Bird Chronicle and there is a character named Noboru Wataya. I am not that far into the book but I have learned that he raped Malta Kano's sister and that Mr. Okada (the main character) named his cat after him. He is the main character's brother in law.
Masterofmayhem • Dec 25, 2004 10:47 pm
Miska wrote:
I am reading the Wind-Up Bird Chronicle and there is a character named Noboru Wataya. I am not that far into the book but I have learned that he raped Malta Kano's sister and that Mr. Okada (the main character) named his cat after him. He is the main character's brother in law.



i dont see the connection. Oh yea i forgot to mention: I have read this entire thread, so I am not incompetent.
Vermilion 3 • Dec 26, 2004 12:59 am
Kine wrote:
When the seaborne units began to land about 6:30 AM on June 6, the British and Canadians on Gold, Juno, and Sword beaches overcame light opposition. So did the Americans at Utah. The American 1st Division at Omaha Beach, however, confronted the best of the German coast divisions, the 352nd, and was roughly handled. During the morning, its landing threatened to fail. Only dedicated local leadership eventually got the troops inland.

61st Anniversary


As pointed out the troops in Omaha beach did suffer heavy casualties, let us not forget some key points Operation Overlord started the night before with the landing of the 101st, 82nd and her majesties airborne troops. Overlord was the biggest amphibious operation in the history of modern warfare. Does that have anything to do with anything? Also I noticed there is allot of stuff in dutch. Perhaps it has a connection with the failed attempt to liberate holland with during Operation Market Garden?...By the way im new...Ive been following this site for quite some time. I just barely started reading Dance dance dance. Just putting stuff on the table!
Masterofmayhem • Dec 26, 2004 1:38 am
Vermilion 3 wrote:
As pointed out the troops in Omaha beach did suffer heavy casualties, let us not forget some key points Operation Overlord started the night before with the landing of the 101st, 82nd and her majesties airborne troops. Overlord was the biggest amphibious operation in the history of modern warfare. Does that have anything to do with anything? Also I noticed there is allot of stuff in dutch. Perhaps it has a connection with the failed attempt to liberate holland with during Operation Market Garden?...By the way im new...Ive been following this site for quite some time. I just barely started reading Dance dance dance. Just putting stuff on the table!


yea, im with you, imma read DDD as soon as i can
Mr. Ears • Dec 26, 2004 3:50 pm
hey, right click and try save as for the abandon all hope thing, i would but i have dial up and it is too slow. it might be something, since it is mp4.. and i would hurry since he may change it later on...
Tyrael • Dec 27, 2004 3:29 am
Hey, where's a good place to get all the books for this site? I've looked all over for the last 2 weeks and can't find anything...
Faithii • Dec 27, 2004 12:50 pm
Hello,
i've got a little question:

For "Frankenstein now, Yuki's Bird"
Username. Yuki
Pass. Gotanda

??

It doesn't work today, have i done any mistakes?
Miska • Dec 27, 2004 1:44 pm
Masterofmayhem wrote:
i dont see the connection. Oh yea i forgot to mention: I have read this entire thread, so I am not incompetent.



The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle is by Haruki Murakami. Haruki Murakami wrote Dance Dance Dance.
Miska • Dec 27, 2004 1:45 pm
Faithii wrote:
Hello,
i've got a little question:

For "Frankenstein now, Yuki's Bird"
Username. Yuki
Pass. Gotanda

??

It doesn't work today, have i done any mistakes?


Username: Prometheus
Password: Paradise
Tyrael • Dec 27, 2004 4:54 pm
erm... just a suggestion, but... maybe show people HOW we get the users and passes, and how the prompts and everything leads us to them, instead of just giving them away? I used this site to get to /5/ in 1 day, and I am regretting it, and starting over because you have to get the feel of the site and how it works in order to be of any use trying to solve /5/ or /6/...
Xaero • Dec 27, 2004 7:25 pm
The hand/heart picture is on http://thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/5/WhereIsGotanda.htm . When clicking on the picture, it takes you to http://thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/5/Carpace.htm , instead of closing the window.

Here are some pics from http://thisisnotporn.com/timeitwhatis.mp4 .

Normal Setting
Image

Something appears for about 4 frames. I circled it in yellow.
Image

Appears to be the mask at the end, leaning in for a few frames.
Image

The inverted frame at the end. - Inverted and brightened. Appears to be a gas mask.
Image

Hope that helps a bit.
Vermilion 3 • Dec 27, 2004 8:42 pm
Did anyone figure out what song is playing during this scene? Also I would like to note that what the individual may be wearing may not be a gas mask at all. However, for some reason the mp4 only downloads halfway with this blasted phoneline connection. Ill be back at my dorm later. Could anyne save this and send it to through messenger once im back in my dorm?
xX_duckie_Xx • Dec 27, 2004 10:15 pm
i finished dance dance dance... weird book. I havnt been working on TINP for a while cause i was playing motas again but i'm back to This Is Not Porn and i hope i can get somewhere with this

i dont know anything about Audition, Death of a travelling salesman

as for what i posted earlier about "i am a smuts innuendo" being on the source code of the fish page i couldnt think of anyhting but i got defenitions of both smut and innuendo:

Definitions of smut:

noun: any fungus of the order Ustilaginales
noun: destructive diseases of plants (especially cereal grasses) caused by fungi that produce black powdery masses of spores
noun: a black colloidal substance consisting wholly or principally of amorphous carbon and used to make pigments and ink

Definitions of innuendo:
noun: an indirect (and usually malicious) implication

i'm pretty lost at TINP o.O
XRedBlazeX • Dec 27, 2004 10:40 pm
The music is said to be a Christmas carol backwards... I'm trying to get my hands on a copy of the reversed audio so I can hear for myself. They're taking apart the video at the TINP forums (www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/index.php) so I suggest you all check that out for more information.

Also, if you're having trouble opening the video, the video will work with Winamp and the audio will work with the DivX player. I haven't found anything yet that will play it all togather.

The hand/heart picture is on http://thisisnotporn.com/DM/intheda...reIsGotanda.htm . When clicking on the picture, it takes you to http://thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/5/Carpace.htm , instead of closing the window.
I'm pretty sure it's always done that...

erm... just a suggestion, but... maybe show people HOW we get the users and passes, and how the prompts and everything leads us to them, instead of just giving them away? I used this site to get to /5/ in 1 day, and I am regretting it, and starting over because you have to get the feel of the site and how it works in order to be of any use trying to solve /5/ or /6/...
If you want to learn how to do everything, go to www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/index.php
I don't have the patience nor the time to explain everything, as all my efforts are going towards explaining the unexplained. Unless someone made another thread about it the explanations would just be in the middle of everything.
Xaero • Dec 27, 2004 11:29 pm
Use Quicktime, plays the audio and video fine.
XRedBlazeX • Dec 27, 2004 11:32 pm
I've been meaning to install that...
Xaero • Dec 28, 2004 4:01 am
XRedBlazeX wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's always done that...

When i click it in popup form it just closes the window. Weird.
xX_duckie_Xx • Dec 28, 2004 2:13 pm
Xaero wrote:

Here are some pics from http://thisisnotporn.com/timeitwhatis.mp4 .

Normal Setting
Image

Something appears for about 4 frames. I circled it in yellow.
Image

Appears to be the mask at the end, leaning in for a few frames.
Image

The inverted frame at the end. - Inverted and brightened. Appears to be a gas mask.
Image

Hope that helps a bit.



it looks like a scubadiver's mask somewhat ... this is a weird video thats all i have to say
SilverPhoenix • Dec 28, 2004 6:59 pm
Windows Media Player v10.0 with a DivX plugin will play mp4's, though it doesn't like them much. I picked apart the video using SoundForge.

The audio is a slowed and reversed excerpt from the song "Christmastime is Here", most popularly heard in "A Charlie Brown Christmas". I'd say definitely they're the same one, but that I'm not sure that the CBC version is the only one out there.

Am I the only one who keeps seeing the gas mask pic and flashing on the three-eyed mask from Tom Clancy games?
Tyrael • Dec 28, 2004 9:47 pm
Yea, it reminded me of the Splinter Cell cover the first time I saw it...
Masterofmayhem • Dec 29, 2004 2:13 am
Tyrael wrote:
Yea, it reminded me of the Splinter Cell cover the first time I saw it...



TYRAEL!! OMG U KNOW THE USERNAME AND PASSWORD FOR THE SECRET FORUM!

waht is it???? you have to tell me im stumped and this thing is gonna kill me...dude i know you ahve it i see your posts.
XRedBlazeX • Dec 29, 2004 2:18 am
It's not that hard to figure out... It's just out there *looks up*

edit: oh, and there's just a password... not a username
Masterofmayhem • Dec 29, 2004 2:48 am
XRedBlazeX wrote:
It's not that hard to figure out... It's just out there *looks up*

edit: oh, and there's just a password... not a username



w/e!! OMG its gonna die on my grave if i dont get it...the password is like :cool: and im all like :yelsick: and then i go :dead: and it goes :D so now im really :confused:
Xaero • Dec 29, 2004 5:05 am
If anyone can make charlie brown creepy, TINP can.

About the secret forum, there are oh so many hints to the password in the TINP forums.

:alien:
Xaero • Dec 29, 2004 5:10 am
Image
What is that? I wonder if these details, or even the whole movie has any relevance whatsoever.
xX_duckie_Xx • Dec 29, 2004 7:21 pm
Xaero wrote:
Image
What is that? I wonder if these details, or even the whole movie has any relevance whatsoever.



good question... TINP might have it just to bug the hell out of us and then it would be useless
Masterofmayhem • Dec 30, 2004 12:20 am
well what about those numbers on the very first page. we never figured out what those were. and then that military alphabet on one of the pages...
Tyrael • Dec 30, 2004 1:03 am
Master, check your private messages. You know folks, it's funny. Nobody cares about that which they do not know, until someone says it's a secret... once it's a secret, everyone will die to know. Genius, TINP, pure genius...
xX_duckie_Xx • Dec 30, 2004 1:36 pm
Masterofmayhem wrote:
well what about those numbers on the very first page. we never figured out what those were. and then that military alphabet on one of the pages...


3 1 8 2 7 9 1 2 6 7 9 1 2 6 3 9 2 0 5 3

those are the numbers on the first page, so far they have no meaning course who knows with TINP
Xaero • Dec 31, 2004 3:31 am
russotto wrote:
Alpha hotel sierra papa november whiskey romeo sierra foxtrot romeo? OK, what does that signify? AHSPNWRSFR means nothing to me.

Perhaps some of this stuff comes in later. It sure hasn't helped in any of the completed puzzles.
Faithii • Dec 31, 2004 10:03 am
Did anyone of you guys noticed that "mr. TINP" was on stage today?
Register and read it: http://www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=752&st=0
XRedBlazeX • Dec 31, 2004 3:10 pm
Yeah I read about that... I wish he had posted about it more ahead of time so I wouldn't have missed it.
Cheeseduck • Jan 2, 2005 4:12 pm
On the "Scandinavian Imports" page, on the bottom are these numbers:

"104 101 098 098 097 110 032 111 108 108 097
032 118 111 103 097 108 097 032 110 101 115 116 097 115 032 104 097
103 117 110 110 097 110 032 013 010 104 105 110 097 115 101 032 104
105 040 099 041 032 040 101 041 110 100 097 032 116 104 117 032 013
010 117 117 040 097 116 041 032 117 110 098 105 100 097 040 110 041
032 040 117 117 041 101 032 110 117"

they are ascii for this:

"hebban olla vogala nestas hagunnan hinase hi(c) (e)nda thu q uu(at) unbida(n) (uu)e nu"

without the parentheses, this:

"hebban olla vogala nesas hagunnan hinase hic enda thu wat unbidan we nu"

Which, according to this website:

http://www.highspeedplus.com/~edonon/dutch.htm

is archaic Dutch for this:

"All birds have started nest building except you and I; what can we expect now"
Cheeseduck • Jan 2, 2005 4:34 pm
afb bbb bai bab adc aig bba baa adc ahd bab bab aef

ascii?

056 111 108 101 032 086 110 100 032 073 101 045

8ole Vnd Ie-
sh1ny0bj3ctz • Jan 2, 2005 4:38 pm
Hi, I just got into this thing last night.. but got to the second page on my own. With the help of this thread, I managed to get as far as anyone knows. I don't think this has been mentioned, but I've found something EXTREMELY freaky. On the first page where you can click "Abandon All hope, ye who enter here." and hear that music, there's more than people pay attention to. I added a link to that file on one of my websites so i could download timeitwhatis.mp4. It's not just a sound, but a video. My friend couldn't view it, but i can on my mac. It shows an image about every 3 frames. The room is very dark, with only window blinds, and some other shape being visible. In one of the very last frames, something as scary as hell pops up. It appeared to be a negative image of a face with goggles, a gas mask, or something of that sort. I don't know if this has any relevance, but it was freaky enough to get my attention. Also, i got something one one of those Hanson faces asking for a username and password, but only once... I really haven't heard anything about it. What is site all about anyway?
XRedBlazeX • Jan 2, 2005 5:34 pm
Shit dude! That's remarkable... I think the guy from TINP sent that e-mail out just because noone had downloaded the .mp4 file from the actuall website and realized it's a video as well.
sh1ny0bj3ctz • Jan 2, 2005 6:13 pm
I never even got that email... i just joined the official forum and read about the email a moment ago. All i really wanted to do was reverse and speed up the music.. it's a boys choir singing a charlie brown christmas.
Miska • Jan 2, 2005 9:56 pm
Agh! How could I be so stupid... "Lighthouses are by the ocean" how dumb. I guess I'm just obsessed with Gotanda's death. Anyway, this has probably already been mentioned but, the candle!!!! The candle was on in the Sheepman's room and that was how Yumiyoshi found it; from the faint light coming through the crack in the door. The main character had a dream where he and Yumiyoshi went back into the alternate Dolphin Hotel and the candle was out and the Sheepman was gone.

Oh, and the numbers and phonetic alphabet... what has been said in both transmissions is useless to the puzzle. Those are recordings of spy messages and to decipher them you would need a one-time pad. Even if you had it they would have nothing to do with TINP.
xX_duckie_Xx • Jan 3, 2005 8:52 pm
it seems we just got to a dead end... i dont thinkwe are gonna get anywhere with Audition, Death of a travelling salesman anytime soon... anything we find out doesnt seem relevant this site will drive me crazy sooner than expected lol
XRedBlazeX • Jan 3, 2005 9:03 pm
They feel the same way over at the official TINP forums duckie... Maybe it's time for Mr TINP to give out a hint to all us lost souls?


We can hope anyways.
CelestialChick • Jan 3, 2005 10:36 pm
hey i just found out something about Audition, Death of a Saleman. There is a Japanese movie named "Audition", which is based on the original story. maybe I can find the password in there.
xX_duckie_Xx • Jan 4, 2005 4:41 pm
XRedBlazeX wrote:
They feel the same way over at the official TINP forums duckie... Maybe it's time for Mr TINP to give out a hint to all us lost souls?


We can hope anyways.


yea, not a big hint but something that can help us a little.... what would be funny is if mr. TINP doesnt have the page done and its just there to drive us insane and then changes it to something we can solve when he is done :yelsick:
Mr. Ears • Jan 4, 2005 5:29 pm
dude, you guys know about the video thing? does there happen to be a clock in it?
Existentia • Jan 5, 2005 10:04 am
Now, I don't know if this has been brought up in the past but I believe the person who made the site is supposedly a WWII Veteran. Well, if you look at the date to which it is counting down, it's the same date as D-Day... Perhaps that holds some vital information.
Tyrael • Jan 5, 2005 6:04 pm
Is that June 6 that you are referring to? Perhaps you ought to check out the Official Forum on that issue...
XRedBlazeX • Jan 6, 2005 6:25 pm
Yeah, the official forums has a rather lengthy discussion on June 6th. Also, since you didn't bother reading this thread, I already mentioned that June 6th was D-Day.
Existentia • Jan 6, 2005 9:50 pm
XRedBlazeX wrote:
Yeah, the official forums has a rather lengthy discussion on June 6th. Also, since you didn't bother reading this thread, I already mentioned that June 6th was D-Day.


Excuse me? I did go through this thread only I didn't bother to go through each post, seeing as how a few were rather lengthy and contained clues that I didn't want to know about. I simply wanted to check if anyone else had made the connection. Your assumption was incorrect.
cha • Jan 7, 2005 12:58 pm
so any progress? I made a comment earlier but deleted it cause i was starting to confuse myself.LOL. im still in the process of reading metamorphosis and trying to find where i can rent out odishon (audition)
Cheeseduck • Jan 7, 2005 10:12 pm
Alright... I admit I haven't read the whole forums yet... but I did read/scan most of it... and I can't find this anywhere, so I'll assume it hasn't been posted.

On the "Hide Your Sorrows" page, the letters in the background are a repeating pattern....

"BJDFI ECJHI HFFFI CGAII FBGHI FDGFI JDHGI IDDII DCCGI EEBJI JBHGI

JHHII DEAHI AABII FBHGI AJIII JJBHI JAFCI HJBBI CHFCI FBCCI EGIBI FAJCI EAECI JDAEI DIECI JEEFI DAFEI HIDCI FAAFI DJHDI ECDDI FFEFI EIJEI BBIDI CCDGI JJJFI JAHEI DFIDI CJHEI BHGGI EGDGI DGAGI BHFEI JJHGI JIFFI JGFFI AJDEI BHAHI DFFHI JJDHI JECGI BHJHI FBHGI HDCFI JIGGI JFDII JAJGI BAJGI FJIGI HCEGI JEDHI DDEGI GFEHI JJHII CCBII JIHHI AAJHI FDDII HIFHI DDCII JEEII HGHII FHIII JICJI AIJHI JJJII GBEII JCHII CACA FBAA JHJII FGFJI EADJI JBAE CJJC JGAD IGJC DABE CHEJI HJHA ECCA JFHA CCBA HJIA EIGA JHEE BBDE JFHD FIGD FBGD EHHD DFBE JFBE JBDF JJIC JCCC AABF BDBD DDED BHIC JHJC JHCD CAFC JGIC IDID JJGD DHCD DHDE JJCE JDID EGFD FAAE FAIE JBAE DIAE JEHE FBDE DEDF BBBF DGGE JBDF DEGF IGJE JGBF CCAG JJHF EBFF HGGF CGCG JBBH JCEG FCCG GGGG BFDG EEHG JDGG IDIG BHBH CHCH FJCH JJAH JJFH JGEH HHHH DGFH JJFH AIAI FFAI DGBI HEEI JDEI JIDI GIGI FFJI GIA JAD CFC HEE FJE FJE JAG DCH DFH JGI JB DCI"

Which, letter to number like this:

A-0
B-1
C-2
D-3
E-4
F-5
G-6
H-7
I-8
J-9

Becomes This:

19358 42978 75558 26088 51678 53658 93768 83388 32268 44198 91768
97788 34078 00188 51768 09888 99178 90528 79118 27528 51228 46818 50928 40428 93048 38428 94458 30548 78328 50058 39738 42338 55458 48948 11838 22368 99958 90748 35838 29748 17668 46368 36068 17548 99768 98558 96558 09348 27078 35578 99378 94268 17978 51768 73258 98668 95388 90968 10968 59868 72468 94378 33468 65478 99788 22188 98788 00978 53388 78578 33288 94488 76788 57888 98298 08978 99988 61488 92788 2020 5200 97988 56598 40398 9104 2992 9603 8692 3014 27498 7970 4220 9570 2210 7980 4860 9744 1134 9573 5873 7163 4773 3514 9514 9135 9983 9222 0015 1313 3343 1782 9792 9723 2052 9682 8383 9963 3723 3734 9924 9383 4653 5004 5084 9104 3804 9474 5134 3435 1115 3664 9135 3465 8694 9615 2206 9975 4255 7665 2626 9117 9246 5226 6666 1536 4476 9366 8386 1717 2727 5927 9907 9957 9647 7777 3657 9957 0808 5508 3618 7448 9348 9838 6868 5598 680 903 252 744 594 594 906 327 357 978 91 328


Also, I noticed a few things...

First, every group of five letters or numbers ends with and 'I' or an '8'

Second, the only group of two letters is 'JB' which are the two white letters on the "Hide Your Sorrows" page, backwards

Third, (and I know this is already posted, I think) in the source I found four messages:
"wax"
"A one armed skeleton"
"find me"
"Not smart by half"

These may pertain to the translated text, and they may not...(I read something here about a mine in arizona...?)

I can't translate it yet... I hope others have better luck
hessianhost • Jan 8, 2005 6:40 pm
Hey-- I'm new here and have been looking over the TINP thread and noticed this...
A few months back I was trying to find DDD at my library. Although it wasn't there I found another book, a compilation of short stories by Murakami, titled The Elephant Vanishes.

Does that have anything to do with the vanishing elephant hint a few pages before this? :confused:
Kine • Jan 8, 2005 9:22 pm
Vermilion 3 wrote:
Did anyone figure out what song is playing during this scene? Also I would like to note that what the individual may be wearing may not be a gas mask at all. However, for some reason the mp4 only downloads halfway with this blasted phoneline connection. Ill be back at my dorm later. Could anyne save this and send it to through messenger once im back in my dorm?


it may be a gas mask...a few weeks ago, TINP pointed out a video online about children and gas masks. maybe he has a gas mask fetish?
Kine • Jan 8, 2005 9:35 pm
http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/mcarecords/sigur_ros/untitled_09-02/video/untitled_no1/300_untitled-no1_320.asx

Here it is!

Original message:

Here's a really neat video from a few years ago.

http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/mcarecords...led-no1_320.asx

It's directed by Floria Sigismondi who's done all sorts of interesting work for many different types of artists.

You can see more of her video work by clicking directors, then on her name.
http://www.revolverfilms.com/00A/00revolver.html

Here's her website.
http://www.floriasigismondi.com/


--------------------

I taste metal.
cha • Jan 10, 2005 10:16 am
So i guess no progress as of yet? I tried even entering Bloody Apple for the u/s and p/w. I guessed it cause when I look at this website:

http://www.mandiapple.com/snowblood/odishon.htm

it had a section that titled: SnowBlood Apple

well as you know in metamorphosis Gregor dies because of an infection due to the apple being stuck on him,right? well yeah so it didn't work. *sighs* *goes back to reading*
punjistick • Jan 13, 2005 5:11 pm
I cant seem to find any info on a couple of pages from the site -

http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/5/WhereIsGotanda.htm (got the link from the source of three.htm)
which links to
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/5/Carpace.htm
Kine • Jan 13, 2005 7:46 pm
I think we're waiting on an update...
satanwantsme • Jan 15, 2005 1:49 pm
jaguar wrote:
well the first page has a riddle hidden the ascii,

Alexander cut me
An oracle predicted me
A future king tied me
Say my name to clear your path

no idea.



how do you see the riddle I cut and pasted the crap into word but I cant see anything
zazkia • Jan 16, 2005 7:10 am
just view source (and maybe zoom out a little)
zomg a chixX0r • Jan 17, 2005 2:58 pm
Wow.

So my friend just sent me the link to TINP today and I'm officially scared for my life.

End.
Faithii • Jan 18, 2005 12:57 pm
We're all hanging at the same site, am i right? It can't be that so many people can't be as freaky as "Mr. TINP",... he's a genius or we're too bad O_o
cha • Jan 18, 2005 3:19 pm
Just got thru with reading DDD. that was.... was... interesting. certainly can visualize a movie for it.
PeterS • Jan 20, 2005 8:37 pm
just 3 loose thoughts guys:
1. the date - being an European I look at the date in a little bit different way. My always put the day first, then followed by the month so 06.01.2005 would make 6th Jan 2005 so sth quite recent. maybe sth important happened on that day - tsunami? cant recall.
2. there was a quation some time ago "all ya that enter here abandon hope" - sth like this. This comes from Dante Allighieri (i am not sure about the last name) brilliant work of the enlightment period "The Divine Comedy". This work is divided into parts - heaven, this place between heaven and hell (dont know the English word) and Hell. The main hero accompanied by a great philisopher (I believe Plato) visits those places. The quote is a sign that has been put at the gates of hell. Some more connections: this quote was recently used in David's Fincher's masterpiece movie "Seven" - said by Morgan Freeman.
As the movie is about a serial killer the conspiration theory lives on :)
3. Some connection between this "one-hand skeleton" and "dance dance dance". In Enlighment period (or maybe medieval times) there was a poetry and literature concept in Europe called "dance macabre" (latin) which means "the dance of death". In many books skeletons would come to social gatherings, kill people and than perform a wicked dance - "dance macabre". As I am positive that this was an influential motive in the same time when Dante wrote his book so that may be a connection.

Just some loose thoughts - I stumbled into this forum today, read it and this is what i Came up with.
Amazing work so far ! Good luck !
lol • Jan 22, 2005 12:58 am
want me to spoil thisisnotporn for you?
lol • Jan 22, 2005 1:11 am
ok its nothing really its actually just a game i was scared at first. anways the titles of TINP just google them thats how i found out the last riddle :D
Mr. Ears • Jan 22, 2005 6:46 pm
what titles? the books?
lol • Jan 22, 2005 10:48 pm
Well TINP was kind of fun for some people but it's going to be a mystery forever. :eek:
Beestie • Jan 22, 2005 11:22 pm
Well it might not be porn but you'd never know it from the number of dweebs that frequent it.
lol • Jan 23, 2005 8:42 pm
Meh they had to make that little game that made people go crazy.
lol • Jan 23, 2005 11:33 pm
Big Ears I meant the titles of the riddles
baphometes • Jan 24, 2005 5:15 pm
i dont really care if it's been posted before, and yea it's my first time posting, but on the page with the picture of the tree, i noticed something different that i dont think anybody else has noticed. there is writing in the upper left hand corner. after messing with gamma, contrast, and different colors, i am left with this, if anybody would like to see it, IM me on aol at c21h30o2foo

this may be a very helpful clue /shrug

after reading through the rest of this thread while i wasn't high, i discovered that everyone already knew about it, heh carry on
Noxicity • Jan 25, 2005 9:45 pm
uh....i dont feel like reading through 32 pages... so thus far ive been able to get up to the robert silvers page but im stumped...can you guys fill me in up to where you are currently
Vermilion 3 • Jan 25, 2005 11:19 pm
geeze you guys are lazy...i wonder whatever happened to yellowbolt?
Faithii • Jan 26, 2005 9:09 am
Hmm, good question... it's a little more silent without him. But I've git another question? What happend to the "real, origin" TINP board... it's lost? Not there any more... or does my eyes play games with me? :eyebrow:

OH It's back... "Sehr mysteriös" :gray:
eszja • Jan 26, 2005 11:23 am
Hey all,
I'm also a victom of TINP, as of Monday I've gotten very little sleep. Anyway after getting through first few pages on my own, I found the cellar fourms. I have not caught up completly as I've only skimmed quickly through the forums, and with the page forks, its a big mess in my brain....

(Well here is my contribution: )
Cheeseduck wrote:

On the "Hide Your Sorrows" page, the letters in the background are a repeating pattern....

"BJDFI ECJHI HFFFI CGAII FBGHI FDGFI JDHGI IDDII DCCGI EEBJI JBHGI

JHHII DEAHI AABII FBHGI AJIII JJBHI JAFCI HJBBI CHFCI FBCCI EGIBI FAJCI EAECI JDAEI DIECI JEEFI DAFEI HIDCI FAAFI DJHDI ECDDI FFEFI EIJEI BBIDI CCDGI JJJFI JAHEI DFIDI CJHEI BHGGI EGDGI DGAGI BHFEI JJHGI JIFFI JGFFI AJDEI BHAHI DFFHI JJDHI JECGI BHJHI FBHGI HDCFI JIGGI JFDII JAJGI BAJGI FJIGI HCEGI JEDHI DDEGI GFEHI JJHII CCBII JIHHI AAJHI FDDII HIFHI DDCII JEEII HGHII FHIII JICJI AIJHI JJJII GBEII JCHII CACA FBAA JHJII FGFJI EADJI JBAE CJJC JGAD IGJC DABE CHEJI HJHA ECCA JFHA CCBA HJIA EIGA JHEE BBDE JFHD FIGD FBGD EHHD DFBE JFBE JBDF JJIC JCCC AABF BDBD DDED BHIC JHJC JHCD CAFC JGIC IDID JJGD DHCD DHDE JJCE JDID EGFD FAAE FAIE JBAE DIAE JEHE FBDE DEDF BBBF DGGE JBDF DEGF IGJE JGBF CCAG JJHF EBFF HGGF CGCG JBBH JCEG FCCG GGGG BFDG EEHG JDGG IDIG BHBH CHCH FJCH JJAH JJFH JGEH HHHH DGFH JJFH AIAI FFAI DGBI HEEI JDEI JIDI GIGI FFJI GIA JAD CFC HEE FJE FJE JAG DCH DFH JGI JB DCI"



That transalates to:
(We shall extend the empire of Persia such that its boundaries will be God's own sky, so the sun will not look down upon any land beyond the boundaries of what is our own.)


I wrote a little program to help my covert the ascii codes and all. what I did for this text is:
1) A->9, B->8.....J->0
2) Reversed the text (it should now start like: 80 130 246 276 390 504 504 552 747 690 913 1044 1313 1610 1560 1552 1836 ....) (The DCI at the end doesn't belong)
3) then I divided each number by its position: 80/1 130/2 246/3 390/4 ....
4) then ascii to text reveals:
PARENTHESESWeshallextendtheempireofPersiasuchthatitsboundarieswillbeGod APOSTRPHEsownskyCOMMAsothesunwillnotlookdownuponanylandbeyondtheboundaries ofwhatisourownPERIODPARENTHESES

I haven't looked into the meaning of it yet....

-EJ
eszja • Jan 26, 2005 11:34 am
eszja wrote:

That transalates to:
(We shall extend the empire of Persia such that its boundaries will be God's own sky, so the sun will not look down upon any land beyond the boundaries of what is our own.)



The sentance appears on the net in a few places:
1) The Code Book: The Science of Secrecy from Ancient Egypt to Quantum Cryptography (does this isbn appear anywhere else on the site?)
http://www.randomhouse.ca/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=0385495323&view=excerpt
2) A more lengthy extract from the book here:
http://www.arch.columbia.edu/DDL/cad/A4513/S2001/r9/

anyway, I guess that where this password was from:
sixhundred23 page p wrote:
If you click the 2nd to last light on the Light/Moth page, you come to The Master and Betrayer login, use this:

username: Xerxes
pass: Demaratus

This brings you to the DONT STRAY FROM THE PATH page, which so far has the only worthwhile reward to getting this far, a cool picture of a tree with a face.
Miska • Jan 26, 2005 6:51 pm
So I was reading Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking Glass and when Alice was looking at the White King's Book in the Looking Galss House she read this poem (she had to hold it up to a mirror to read it because it was bakwards [the important bit is bold]):

JABBERWOCKY.

'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"

He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought-
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood a while in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!

One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.

"And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!"
He chortled in his joy.

'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
Mr. Ears • Jan 28, 2005 2:00 pm
Alice in Wonderland was about a little girl who did drugs.
juuhanna • Jan 28, 2005 3:01 pm
Okay, seriously. Does anyone know when the official TINP forum is gonna come back? I get that icedoom2.jpg image whenever I click on the forum-link. :(
http://thisisnotporn.com/icedoom2.jpg
How long has it been there anyway? =/
Miska • Jan 28, 2005 8:23 pm
Mr. Ears wrote:
Alice in Wonderland was about a little girl who did drugs.


No, it was about a little girl who had weird dreams... THERE'S A DIFFERENCE! *Will defend good literature* Although I think the author was on drugs. He was also suspected to be Jack the Ripper. (at least I think that's who he was suspected to be, not the Son of Sam, though, I know that for sure)
lol • Jan 28, 2005 11:57 pm
Why are we suddenly talking about Alice In Wonderland?
XRedBlazeX • Jan 29, 2005 2:06 am
I also cannot seem to find the official TINP forums. I'm not currently at home so I might just not be typing it right, but when I get home I'll check the address I have bookmarked and see if the forums really did move or dissapear.

As for the place between heaven and hell, that's limbo.
zazkia • Jan 29, 2005 5:08 am
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/index.php

its been working fine for me the whole time....
juuhanna • Jan 30, 2005 12:10 pm
When I went to TINP mainsite, I got this pop-up!!

-> http://www.thisisnotporn.com/images/boy.jpg Is that the mysterious boy who will die alone, now?

-----------------------

[edit] To be more precise: I got that image as a pop-up when I clicked the 'Abandon All hope, ye who enter here'-text. So yeah, the forums do work if you've got the link bookmarked but you can't get into them by the link on the main-page.
juuhanna • Jan 30, 2005 12:14 pm
There's no date on the photo, btw. That's kinda odd, concidering that all the photos have had a date and the name of the photographer in them 'till now. =/
juuhanna • Jan 30, 2005 12:19 pm
juuhanna wrote:
Okay, seriously. Does anyone know when the official TINP forum is gonna come back? I get that icedoom2.jpg image whenever I click on the forum-link. :(
http://thisisnotporn.com/icedoom2.jpg
How long has it been there anyway? =/



[EDIT]

The link leads to 403 now, but if someone's curious and feels it might help somehow to get further in the little 'game', I've got a screencap of it. :)
Mr. Ears • Jan 31, 2005 2:19 pm
that lil boy pic was weird... i am pretty sure i have seen it somewhere before...
crazypeoplethink • Feb 4, 2005 10:18 pm
Does anyone have the username/password combo to 'Auditon, Death of a traveling Salesman'?
XRedBlazeX • Feb 4, 2005 11:48 pm
crazypeoplethink wrote:
Does anyone have the username/password combo to 'Auditon, Death of a traveling Salesman'?

No, this is the only thing that hasn't been solved thus far.
XRedBlazeX • Feb 5, 2005 12:21 am
This thread in the official TINP forums (http://www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=530&st=0) might hopefully offer some insight to some of you. I tried, but couldn't get anything out of it. It's not long, only 3 pages or so.
crazypeoplethink • Feb 5, 2005 2:36 pm
I know about the offical site.. but I still I'm not getting anywhere... i'll let you guys know If I get anywhere with that un/pw combo
XRedBlazeX • Feb 5, 2005 2:48 pm
Yeah, but read that specific thread. It's an older one, from before /5/ was solved, and there's someone there (priestx) who claimed he had already solved /6/ and he's posted some very broad and general hints.
Kiache • Feb 6, 2005 3:22 am
Hi guys, I'm only on page 16 of the thread right now, but I noticed nobody has mentioned the picture of the boy. On the main page, if you click the "abandon all hope" text at the bottom, it brings up a little picture. If you right click it and click proporties, and then type the URL in to your brower, it shows the full picture, and it's of a little boy.
XRedBlazeX • Feb 6, 2005 10:55 pm
Kiache wrote:
Hi guys, I'm only on page 16 of the thread right now, but I noticed nobody has mentioned the picture of the boy. On the main page, if you click the "abandon all hope" text at the bottom, it brings up a little picture. If you right click it and click proporties, and then type the URL in to your brower, it shows the full picture, and it's of a little boy.

That link changes every once in awhile. It used to be a link to the TINP official forums (http://www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/index.php) and it's also linked to various pictures in the past. Thanks for pointing this out though, I'm not sure if we've talked about it here but I know there's a big discussion about it at the TINP forums.
juuhanna • Feb 7, 2005 8:37 am
Kiache wrote:
Hi guys, I'm only on page 16 of the thread right now, but I noticed nobody has mentioned the picture of the boy. On the main page, if you click the "abandon all hope" text at the bottom, it brings up a little picture. If you right click it and click proporties, and then type the URL in to your brower, it shows the full picture, and it's of a little boy.



Go to page 33 of this thread and you'll see me talking about it. =P I used that 'Abandon all hope'-link for about few months and it always lead to the official TINP forums, but lately it has been leading to different pictures and such.
Dunlavy • Feb 8, 2005 3:04 pm
Seems the website updated for one of the lightbulbs. There is now one for what I believe to be Death of Salesman, and it also says audition. I'm now stuck here. I've been trying to sort characters similar between books, find uniwue passages within the section, but to no avail. thought I'd just bring it to attention. Peace.
XRedBlazeX • Feb 8, 2005 5:19 pm
Dunlavy wrote:
Seems the website updated for one of the lightbulbs. There is now one for what I believe to be Death of Salesman, and it also says audition. I'm now stuck here. I've been trying to sort characters similar between books, find uniwue passages within the section, but to no avail. thought I'd just bring it to attention. Peace.
This has been here since before Frankenstein was solved. We've come a long way while working on it, but we're still far from a solution.
Dunlavy • Feb 8, 2005 7:13 pm
ah, I apologize. I've been skimming through this forum and I haven't checked the site in a long time. Thought it was new, my apology. Hmm..... Is there an audition place within Death of a Salesman? I am not a big reader of that genre, but this website is getting me to read em.
metalrockster • Feb 8, 2005 8:28 pm
Dunlavy wrote:
ah, I apologize. I've been skimming through this forum and I haven't checked the site in a long time. Thought it was new, my apology. Hmm..... Is there an audition place within Death of a Salesman? I am not a big reader of that genre, but this website is getting me to read em.


No audition places withing metamorphosis, which i though was what death of a traveling salesman was pointing to, I havenn't read death of a salesman yet.
Dunlavy • Feb 9, 2005 9:14 am
metalrockster wrote:
No audition places withing metamorphosis, which i though was what death of a traveling salesman was pointing to, I havenn't read death of a salesman yet.


Neither have I..... not closely..... i'll read it again....
lol • Feb 9, 2005 7:20 pm
? you guys already finished frankenstien
XRedBlazeX • Feb 9, 2005 10:33 pm
lol wrote:
? you guys already finished frankenstien

Yup, awhile back.
iellabella • Feb 18, 2005 6:13 pm
Anybody know what the deal is with the HypercumPerforatum page. The black page with the letters in some sort of shape. I was getting ready to check out the source code, just thought I'd see if anyone had passed this one yet.
avidarival • Feb 20, 2005 11:32 am
I'm new, I've read through the thing, blah blah..
On the Audition light it says "FindTheDate"...maybe something having to do with that date of death of a salesman auditions?
christmasjones01 • Feb 20, 2005 6:13 pm
I'm also new. This was probably noticed already, (or maybe its new,) but if you click on the page with the Scandinavian Imports truck, it gives you the date and time, and also says "De jongen zal alleen sterven."
christmasjones01 • Feb 22, 2005 3:38 pm
I emailed this Kristian guy. Apparently no one has beaten the game yet! Let's be the first :)
XRedBlazeX • Feb 22, 2005 6:38 pm
christmasjones01 wrote:
I emailed this Kristian guy. Apparently no one has beaten the game yet! Let's be the first :)
No one's gotten past "Audition, Death of a Travelling Salesman" yet either.
missklutz16 • Feb 23, 2005 9:05 pm
Hey everyone! I've been playing TINP for a while now, but I'm too much of a wimp to continue playing, the romeo sierra foxtrot phonetic alphabet thing creeped me out way to much. The pictures of that video didn't help either. Anyway I didn't find this anywhere on the forums, and I read all 35 pages. I got this from another site, might be worth taking a look at.

NEWS FLASH!
When I went to the site today to pick up work, and I clicked on "Abandon all hope..." yada yada on the first page, it linked to a movie, called Roomies.avi...it's huge, about 36 megs. This movie is WEIRD! Unlike anything else on the site...I can't explain it...you'll have to watch it for yourselves.

http://thisisnotporn.com/movies/Roomies.avi


The site it came from is here. http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=54758&page=4&pp=20

If someone feels the need to cap this one too, could there be fair warning about how the pictures can scare you for life? All I keep seeing in my head is the creepy gasmask thing.
lol • Feb 23, 2005 9:50 pm
What is Mr.TINP's email address I could never find it
XRedBlazeX • Feb 24, 2005 6:25 pm
That movie is also in the "secret" section of the TINP forums. I won't tell you the password for the secret section, but I will tell you that google solves everything.

I'll check his e-mail address next time I have time, it's probably at the official TINP forums. His AOL Instant Messenger Screen Name is bbcbbbbbebba if that helps.
Miska • Feb 28, 2005 12:42 pm
I can't see the video and it isn't downloading all the way at my house it stops at around 2MB and then says that it's done. At school I can hear it but not see it. Sounds weird and a little funny. Tell me, should I expect what is sounds like or should I expect creepy things like in timeitwhatis.mp4?
Boom1121 • Mar 1, 2005 12:37 pm
Where's TINP.com?! I tried going to the forum and the regular site and they are both gone. Well, tinp.com takes you to an administrator page. I was there just last night and it was fine and now... what happened?? :(
Mr. Ears • Mar 1, 2005 1:53 pm
i think its down for now
Boom1121 • Mar 1, 2005 3:43 pm
I see that. I just hope it's nothing major and/or permanent.
XRedBlazeX • Mar 2, 2005 5:35 pm
It's been back up since at least yesterday.
finding_nirvana • Mar 3, 2005 1:30 pm
i've tried goin to the forum, took me to some strange thing, but ya, NO-ONE HAS GOTTEN PAST DEATH OF A TRAVELLING SALESMAN?!!! I dont meen to egg you people on or anything because this game is beyond my knowledge im just following your guys's leads, but just do a google search, it's the last light, we move on from that, i hope, and ya, duz anyone the email address of the guy who made it??
Duey Oxburger • Mar 3, 2005 4:43 pm
Hey everyone...i'm as far as the rest of the world and joined this and the official forums to stay updated. i have one question:

is there anything on www.krisboruff.com? when i went there it says "Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server."
that website has the same IP adress as www.thisisnotporn.com. i'm just wondering if i'm missing out.
A good ninja • Mar 3, 2005 8:11 pm
This probably has nothing to do with the site, but I was watching CBS a few minutes ago, it was muted. This promo came up. It looked like it had something to do with forensic science or something. So at the end of this promo this message comes up "THE BOY ON THE SHORE tonight at 11 p.m." That creepy pic of the kid on the beach immediatley came to mind. Again, probably just a coincidence but was interesting none the less.
XRedBlazeX • Mar 3, 2005 11:01 pm
Duey Oxburger wrote:
Hey everyone...i'm as far as the rest of the world and joined this and the official forums to stay updated. i have one question:

is there anything on www.krisboruff.com? when i went there it says "Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server."
that website has the same IP adress as www.thisisnotporn.com. i'm just wondering if i'm missing out.

There was a whole discussion about who Kris Boruff actually is at the official forums, and krisboruff.com is actually mentioned.

I can't find his e-mail, but I've already said his AOL Instant Messenger Screen Name on this page...
lol • Mar 5, 2005 4:59 pm
GUYS!!!!!!!!!! Giant clue. I found a new navajo code :biggrin:


here it is


104 101 098 098 097 110 032 111 108 108 097
032 118 111 103 097 108 097 032 110 101 115 116 097 115 032 104 097
103 117 110 110 097 110 032 013 010 104 105 110 097 115 101 032 104
105 040 099 041 032 040 101 041 110 100 097 032 116 104 117 032 013
010 117 117 040 097 116 041 032 117 110 098 105 100 097 040 110 041
032 040 117 117 041 101 032 110
Duey Oxburger • Mar 5, 2005 5:15 pm
sorry to burst your bubble, but thats old:

hebban olla vogala nestas hagunnan
hinase hi(c) (e)nda thu
uu(at) unbida(n) (uu)e nu
=
All the birds have started their nests
except me and you.
What are we waiting for now?

plus navajo code is with english letters; this is ACII.
lol • Mar 5, 2005 6:15 pm
:yelsick: im so slow with that stuff
XRedBlazeX • Mar 5, 2005 9:42 pm
Try reading this thread sometime please...
KingNOthing • Mar 7, 2005 9:41 pm
on the page after you type in the user name Alexander and the PW Gordian it takes you to a picture of a truck, is that a dead end or is there something to do on that page, i highlighted it all and i did the al code at the bottom....

104 101 098 098 097 110 032 111 108 108 097
032 118 111 103 097 108 097 032 110 101 115 116 097 115 032 104 097
103 117 110 110 097 110 032 013 010 104 105 110 097 115 101 032 104
105 040 099 041 032 040 101 041 110 100 097 032 116 104 117 032 013
010 117 117 040 097 116 041 032 117 110 098 105 100 097 040 110 041
032 040 117 117 041 101 032 110 117

Translates to...

hebban olla vogala nestas hagunnan

hinase hi(c) (e)nda thu
(uu)e nu
KingNOthing • Mar 7, 2005 10:48 pm
Here are the usernames/passwords i have if it helps at all....

(All case sensitive)
For HeWhoRulesByTheSword
Account: Alexander
Password: Gordian

For WhatALovelyDrapeTheyMake
Account: Edith
Password: Head

For CuriosityKilledTheCat
Account: Kipper
Password: May

For Master and Betrayer
Account: Xerxes
Password: Demaratus

For FACEOF, What darkness do we live
Account: ADEADBABE
Password: Alone

For Frankenstein now, Yuki's Bird
Account: Prometheus
Password: Paradise

I dotn have the first light....i havent seen anywhere that does...

For Dorothy and Scarecrow
Account: Yuki
Password: Gotanda
Duey Oxburger • Mar 8, 2005 6:15 pm
KingNOthing wrote:
on the page after you type in the user name Alexander and the PW Gordian it takes you to a picture of a truck, is that a dead end or is there something to do on that page, i highlighted it all and i did the al code at the bottom....

104 101 098 098 097 110 032 111 108 108 097
032 118 111 103 097 108 097 032 110 101 115 116 097 115 032 104 097
103 117 110 110 097 110 032 013 010 104 105 110 097 115 101 032 104
105 040 099 041 032 040 101 041 110 100 097 032 116 104 117 032 013
010 117 117 040 097 116 041 032 117 110 098 105 100 097 040 110 041
032 040 117 117 041 101 032 110 117

Translates to...

hebban olla vogala nestas hagunnan

hinase hi(c) (e)nda thu
(uu)e nu


I suggest you look at my post on the previous page explaining what that translates to. On the truck page you have to change TimeFLows.htm to IJsselmeer.htm or something like that. other than that there is no password prompt.
BTW: that user name/password compilation is helpful for n00bies :)
avidarival • Mar 8, 2005 9:29 pm
hey...for "death of a travelling salesman" - has anyone tried things dealing with Gregor Samsa's death from the apple/infection?
monicakat • Mar 8, 2005 10:15 pm
Okay, I know I'm a little behind but I've been working on this thing for the past 2 days and I'm at a wall. I'm at the truck page and I found the letters at the bottom, that say "All the birds have started their nests except me and you. What are we waiting for now?" I went to www.thisisnotporn.com/see/IJsselmeer.htm and clicked on the sign on the tree but the password 'Head' DOES NOT WORK. I tried it at least a dozen times. What am I doing wrong???
ViscountAlpha • Mar 9, 2005 7:18 am
I recently found TINP site and am interested in helping solve it. I found a few things that some one else has probably found allready but can anyone make sense of the page that has this line covering it?

"morning, awakening from agitated dreams, monstrous vermin, hard, armorlike back, vaulted belly partitioned by arching riges, legs wretchedly thin."

I've also tried a ton of combinations to that "Audition, death of a salesman" with no luck. Its NOT Newyork-1949. Theres a hint im missing that completes what were looking for.

-vis
Duey Oxburger • Mar 9, 2005 8:16 am
monicakat wrote:
Okay, I know I'm a little behind but I've been working on this thing for the past 2 days and I'm at a wall. I'm at the truck page and I found the letters at the bottom, that say "All the birds have started their nests except me and you. What are we waiting for now?" I went to www.thisisnotporn.com/see/IJsselmeer.htm and clicked on the sign on the tree but the password 'Head' DOES NOT WORK. I tried it at least a dozen times. What am I doing wrong???


The user name and password are Edith Head (with capitals)

Nice to have you aboard Vis :)
betinadane • Mar 9, 2005 9:28 am
Did anyone notice, that we saw the "Frankenstein" face as an icon in an earlier level? I can't remember where it was, but saved it in my pictures. I wonder if that's a clue? Anyone..Where was the icon??? Please help me.
It was called favicon btw
it was one of the high levels
Dunlavy • Mar 9, 2005 9:37 am
Hey... somewhere along the way someone posted a number theyu got VIA email from Kris or somethi9ng, and if you called it, you';d get an eerie message. I've been looking through and I can't find it again, any of you know it?
Mr. Ears • Mar 9, 2005 2:09 pm
betinadane wrote:
Did anyone notice, that we saw the "Frankenstein" face as an icon in an earlier level? I can't remember where it was, but saved it in my pictures. I wonder if that's a clue? Anyone..Where was the icon??? Please help me.
It was called favicon btw
it was one of the high levels


if you check the source of the stove page, its in there somewhere
XRedBlazeX • Mar 11, 2005 12:04 am
Dunlavy wrote:
Hey... somewhere along the way someone posted a number theyu got VIA email from Kris or somethi9ng, and if you called it, you';d get an eerie message. I've been looking through and I can't find it again, any of you know it?

I've been looking for this too. I know that somewhere there's a page where Kris posted recordings of all the people who left messages on the phone. Some of the were pretty hilarious... I'll try and see if I can find the page again.
Dunlavy • Mar 11, 2005 9:00 am
it's on page 20, I think it's close to the last post on that page..... I found that.... just not the actual phone number...
khudson59 • Mar 11, 2005 2:38 pm
Here you go. It was via an Email sent out to people quite some time ago from thisisnotporn.com. However, I cannot remember _why_ I was sent this email.

I received it on 09/17/2004 - Luckily I still had it in my archived inbox ;)

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The following is an email sent to you by an administrator of "Thisisnotporn.com". If this message is spam, contains abusive or other comments you find offensive please contact the webmaster of the board at the following address:

[EMAIL="porn@thisisnotporn.com"]porn@thisisnotporn.com[/EMAIL]

Include this full email (particularly the headers).

Message sent to you follows:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1-XXX-XXX-XXXX (number deleted by request)

Would you call a number if it was given to you by a stranger?

What if you knew him?

What if knowing made him all the stranger?

Give it a call if you want answers.
XRedBlazeX • Mar 11, 2005 4:22 pm
Is the number still active?
khudson59 • Mar 11, 2005 4:37 pm
No idea.

If my cellphone didnt suddenly appear to be lost in limbo I'd check.
Beachbabe • Mar 12, 2005 2:06 am
wow, its amazing how much attention this has got, most likely end up with something really weird by the time this ordeal gets solved. Which most likely wont happen tell the date that has come, then the soloution will become apparent.
Duey Oxburger • Mar 12, 2005 2:40 pm
On the Robert Silvers page there are the heads on sticks. When you highlight the bottom of the pictures it says "unhssrvelette". What does this mean? I tried anagrams, heres the list: http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=unhssrvelette&include=&exclude=en%2C+ne%2C+nth%2C+hrs&d=&n=&m=&source=adv&a=n&l=n&q=n&language=english&where=

HERE VENTS LUST is the only one i found made any sense. but look through the list anyway.

Oh yeah: i think on the official forums it said that MR. TINP ended that phone number. sorry :( but check www.thisisnotporn.com/cellphone/ for a list of messages he got on that number.
xX_duckie_Xx • Mar 12, 2005 11:11 pm
i guess nobody has figured out Audition, Death of A Traveling Salesman yet?

havnt played TINP for a few months >.> need to catch up
lol • Mar 13, 2005 12:39 am
Just reminding Audition was a movie and it was a really good movie
ViscountAlpha • Mar 13, 2005 3:51 am
Duey Oxburger wrote:
On the Robert Silvers page there are the heads on sticks. When you highlight the bottom of the pictures it says "unhssrvelette". What does this mean? I tried anagrams, heres the list: http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=unhssrvelette&include=&exclude=en%2C+ne%2C+nth%2C+hrs&d=&n=&m=&source=adv&a=n&l=n&q=n&language=english&where=

HERE VENTS LUST is the only one i found made any sense. but look through the list anyway.

Oh yeah: i think on the official forums it said that MR. TINP ended that phone number. sorry :( but check www.thisisnotporn.com/cellphone/ for a list of messages he got on that number.



"EVEN LESS TRUTH" seems like an interesting one. btw, my my lust always vents ;) Watchout ladies. As well as "ELEVEN THRUSTS".. ohh yeaaa...
giggdy giggdy giggdy!!!
Duey Oxburger • Mar 13, 2005 9:48 am
haha I think "ELEVEN THRUSTS" is the clue we've been looking for.
I wonder if this has any signifigance at all or if it pertained to another light *shrugs shoulders*
zazkia • Mar 13, 2005 1:10 pm
or maybe 'SEVENTH RESULT'? :)
XRedBlazeX • Mar 13, 2005 2:38 pm
zazkia wrote:
or maybe 'SEVENTH RESULT'? :)

Actually... there are 7 lights on the lights page, and someone on the official TINP forums found a connection where if you take the cororinates from something to do with the wall thing, put them in a graph, and connect the dots you get a 7.
badmanrich • Mar 13, 2005 8:44 pm
i dont know if you guys know this most likly but if you click on the l
black scratches on the white guys chest on the MY EYES ARE BURNING HEL a pop up screen called SCEPTER appers with a white hand that turns in to a deer hoof you click on that it takes you to a page called http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/5/Carpace.htm with a bug on it which is formed from a bunch of writing which is
morning, awakening from agitated dreams, monstrous vermin, hard, armorlike back, vaulted belly partitioned by arching riges, legs wretchedly thin

over and over again
badmanrich • Mar 13, 2005 9:13 pm
i also found this site (most likly already covred because i am an idoit) http://earthdawn.dragonpaw.org/nexus/armors.html
xX_duckie_Xx • Mar 14, 2005 12:47 am
badmanrich wrote:
i also found this site (most likly already covred because i am an idoit) http://earthdawn.dragonpaw.org/nexus/armors.html


that has to do with D&D i think... or another pencil and paper rpg of some sort
xX_duckie_Xx • Mar 14, 2005 12:47 am
lol wrote:
Just reminding Audition was a movie and it was a really good movie


and death of a salesman is a play ... i missed out on seeing it though because tickets sold out >.<
Marque • Mar 14, 2005 1:16 pm
Hey, I just joined..just for this thread...
I have discovered via the page source that there is a Najavo indian language on it...and it translates to: 'I scarcely talk to the cat anymore'

Well...this certainly has my brain fried...argh.
Marque • Mar 14, 2005 1:40 pm
badmanrich wrote:
i dont know if you guys know this most likly but if you click on the l
black scratches on the white guys chest on the MY EYES ARE BURNING HEL a pop up screen called SCEPTER appers with a white hand that turns in to a deer hoof you click on that it takes you to a page called http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/5/Carpace.htm with a bug on it which is formed from a bunch of writing which is
morning, awakening from agitated dreams, monstrous vermin, hard, armorlike back, vaulted belly partitioned by arching riges, legs wretchedly thin

over and over again

That actually...is a line from the book, "The Metamorphisis" Go read it, its not a long book...

Does the "MY EYES ARE BURNING HEL"
Have anything to do with the story of the greek goddess, Artmeis, whos daughter was called Brynhild ('Burning Hel'), one of the Valkyries.
http://www.rosebudsgarden.com/POL/Mythology/goddesses/hel.htm
xX_duckie_Xx • Mar 17, 2005 12:51 am
everything seems to have to do with books @_@
Assassingod • Mar 17, 2005 1:36 pm
Have you guys seen this link?

http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/5/UNREQUITEDLOVE.htm

I've read through about half of this thread, can't remember if this was uncovered or not.

This is really rackling my brain now.

Btw, I got this from the "DON'T STRAY FROM THE PATH PAGE", i still can't make out what it says
Duey Oxburger • Mar 17, 2005 3:41 pm
yes i've seen the link before...there's nothing there except the DDD pop-up

I believe it says "How would you like it if someone came along and picked something off of you?" There's more explanation of it earlier in this thread i think...like pages 8-15 (i could be wrong about the pages)
Duey Oxburger • Mar 18, 2005 3:44 pm
Did anyone notice on the page where you mouse over and this poem shows up
"Like one who on a lonely road,
Doth walk in fear and dread,
And, having once turned round, walks on
And turns no more his head,
Because he know a frightful fiend
Doth close behind him tread."

at the bottom the words "you are not of the path" flash very fast every once in a while. it could be a clue to a different light, or just something more to confuse you.
TiredTendencies • Mar 18, 2005 10:47 pm
Hello everyone. I got to the My Eyes are Burning Hel page, then got stuck. So I found this site, and now I would like to contribute. The fish page from the my eyes are burning hel link refers to "The curse of the Maserati." As far as I know, the Maserati was an Italian designed car that didn't do too well in America.

Anyway, Yuki has a bad feeling about Gotanda's car. That is what Curse of the maserati refers to.



Gonna check up more to see if there's another Maserati in literature somewhere, but this just popped into my head.




EDIT: IF you click in the lower right corner of the My eyes... page, a popup appears. "SHE IS HIDDEN. THREE ITEMS." I have never seen this before, has it always been there?

Sorry if any of this is a repeat, but it seems as if no one is past the my eyes page yet, and i searched the past 5 pages, didnt notice anything.

EDIT: On the scepter link from thel my eyes... page, the image shown is called "sheepman.gif." Was there a scepter in DDD? Could someone run this through gifshuffle? I always had to go to the library, it won't work on my computer. Sorry again if any of this is old information, just let me know, thanks!
Duey Oxburger • Mar 19, 2005 8:02 am
You are right about the Curse of the Maserati was a direct DDD reference, i doubt there's anything deeper. The "SHE IS HIDDEN..." pop-up has always been there to my knowledge. Also, I did a CTRL + F for "scepter" on the online version of DDD and found nothing; it was a good thought though.

I really should download gifshuffle...

BTW: you are right...no one has solved the closest light on the "A moth flew in the room when i di4d" page.
crazypeoplethink • Mar 19, 2005 2:51 pm
has anyone thought that maybe the audition, death of a traveling salesman has something to do with a much more recent movie, like Big Fish?
Duey Oxburger • Mar 19, 2005 3:03 pm
care to explain as i have not seen "Big Fish"? I have heard of it though.
TiredTendencies • Mar 19, 2005 5:07 pm
Well, knowing the creator of this site, it's more likely a literature reference. But I wouldn't discount movies either, anything at all helps at this point. The only things with salesmen I can think of are:

"Death Of A Salesman" by Arthur Miller. Synopsis: Willy Loman is a travelling salesman, the book never tells what he's selling. He can no longer sell anything, and is no longer popular He is ridden by flashbacks of "Uncle Ben", who struck it rich and is tempting him in cryptic hints to kill himself. His family notices he is trying to kill himself by inhaling gas from the water heater(?). He eventually kills himself by means of car.

"The Metamorphosis" by Franz Kafka. Gregor Samsa, another salesman, wakes up one morning to find he has been turned into a cockroach, bedbug, some sort of bug like that. His literal death is when an apple rots on his carapace and kills him. His figurative death is as soon as his family stops loving him when they see his new appearance. One of the pages on TINP references the opening of this book. this is the ../carpace.htm page.

"Death Of A Travelling Salesman" by Eudora Welty. This book is about RJ..someone (sorry, cannot remember whom), who eventually 'dies of a broken heart/loneliness.'

For audition i can think only of Kiki's audition, which she cannot attend for obvious reasons.

Maybe the link betweeen the two is how each died? TINP gave a clue on the official forums to 'be literal.' Someone else who got in said it's something "subtle and subliminal." I know separate theories and synopses have been posted here before, but maybe seeing them all together or in different words will help someone. I hope so!
crazypeoplethink • Mar 19, 2005 8:02 pm
Well the thing in Big Fish is the dad turns out to be a traveling salesman.. well the dad loves to tell tall tales, so when the son is talking about his dad he's telling the stories... well at the end of the movie the dad dies listening to the story that his son was telling. The story the son was telling was about how the dad would die.....
as for literal meaning... maybe something like 'heart' could work
punjistick • Mar 21, 2005 2:40 pm
I might have stumbled on to something. On the Carpace page - ridges is spelled riges. The "Danmarks Riges Grundlov" is the Constitutional Act of the Kingodm of Denmark. If I remember correctly, there has been some talk of June 6, 2005 on the boards. The "Danmarks Riges Grundlov" was signed into effect on the 5th of June, 1953. The June 5, 2005 is on a Sunday. I don't know if they have holidays on the Monday following if it falls on a Sunday or not. June 6th is also Flag Day in Sweeden.

Just a thought....
XRedBlazeX • Mar 21, 2005 7:31 pm
From the TINP.com Forums

SilverPhoenix,Mar 19 2005, 01:32 PM wrote:

It has been proposed that, as was done in the past, we have a brainstorming c.hat shindig in AIM, IRC, (or likely, both).

I suggest Saturday the 26th, if folks aren't going to be traveling 'til the next day for Easter. April the 2nd is the next best day.

In either case, I'll be entering the room at around 7:00am EST (GMT-5), and will be there until I can't keep my eyes open any longer. All and sundry are welcome to join in, and don't feel that you have to take my leaving (when it happens) as a reason to leave yourself.

AIM room: tinp, feel free to invite yourself. IM me if you need an invite.

IRC: irc.hack3r.com, channel #tinp. If for some reason hack3r is down, we'll try lightning.chattingaway.com, same channel. If they're both down, everything will hapeen on AIM, or we'll find a channel on some other server when it happens.
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Idlehumor • Mar 23, 2005 3:48 am
First post here. This is where I got most of my information before going to the official TINP forums. Anyway, I've concluded a few things that you might want to know. the word "scepter" from the "WhereisGotanda?" page is an anagram for "specter". And my explaination for the password "Tragedy" or "Tragic" is posted at the TINP forums here:
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=671&st=320
Now the only problem I have is finding out what the username is. I tried the obvious first:
Death of a Traveling Salesman = "Tragic" or a "Tragedy"
Audition = "Thriller" "Horror" etc

but no results. Hope this helps someone find the answers, if you do please let me know.
choymantisbxr • Mar 25, 2005 11:48 am
hello, ive read most of this forum for help with this isn not porn, im jsut about as far as everyone else. my friends and i noticed faces appearing in the robert silvers page, so i saved the image and looked more closely. sure enough they were there. inverting the colors makes them more obvious. they might be intentional, but i theorize mr. tinp took the picture from a car, with the window up. i think this might be our first look at the person behind this webpage, or better yet, something we can actually use to progress. however, its become abundantly clear that we need a new way of looking at this. we are, at any given time on a webpage. our goal is to progress from this webpage to the next. there are a few ways we can do this....clicking a link, typing a password and changing the adress. we arent popted for passwords on dead end pages such as my eyes are burning hel and the st. johns wort page. that leaves clicking links and changing adresses. ive scoured the pages for links and there are none, so either we need to decipher death of a salesman or type in a new adress. secondly, it would be good if someone could rewrite all the passwords and usernames for new people ( i know its been done before, but this thread is like 30 pages long, we should probably do it again) and give explanations of how these were found, then write a synopsis of all the pathways and dead ends weve seen so far so everyone is on the same page.
choymantisbxr • Mar 25, 2005 11:54 am
also, apparently kris boruff plays half life two, or some one of the same name does. his name pops us on this webpage http://www.planethalflife.com/community/walter/walter28.shtm
choymantisbxr • Mar 25, 2005 12:34 pm
and what if those popups that seem to be in jibberish are the phonetic pronounciations of words in some forigen languange, i see similarities between it and chinese or japanese when i pronounce the words
XRedBlazeX • Mar 25, 2005 1:50 pm
choymantisbxr wrote:
secondly, it would be good if someone could rewrite all the passwords and usernames for new people ( i know its been done before, but this thread is like 30 pages long, we should probably do it again) and give explanations of how these were found, then write a synopsis of all the pathways and dead ends weve seen so far so everyone is on the same page.
I think by not doing this we are encouraging newcomers to read the entire thread, which they should be doing anyways, to make sure they don't post something that's been gone over already.


choymantisbxr wrote:
also, apparently kris boruff plays half life two, or some one of the same name does. his name pops us on this webpage
It's funny, I think I've seen that before though I never related it to TINP. Or maybe it was posted at the official TINP forums but was never thought to be related to the site... I can't remember.
choymantisbxr • Mar 26, 2005 12:32 am
what if there are multiple usernames and passwords for the different parts of the site? i dont recall this being brough up before, but cant there be multiple accounts?
TiredTendencies • Mar 26, 2005 12:38 am
choymantisbxr wrote:
and what if those popups that seem to be in jibberish are the phonetic pronounciations of words in some forigen languange, i see similarities between it and chinese or japanese when i pronounce the words


If you're talking about the popups that have no spaces, with a lot of "chee" in them, that's Navajo. Read the whole thread, we've even posted a navajo alphabet.

Regarding the multiple accounts: Good thought. One that makes it all the harder for us, but intriguing to say the least.
Duey Oxburger • Mar 26, 2005 6:21 am
I dont understand what you mean about multiple usernames and passwords. There are multiple u/p. Alexander, Gordian; Edith, Head; those are different.

I do agree that a URL change may be needed. I thought about that a while ago, but would only rule that out if Audition gave us a user/pass prompt.

It seems you did a lot of point-and-click to find links. In Firefox you can click Tools>page info and that tells you all the images, links, and other things on that page. Or you can look at the source.
KingNOthing • Mar 26, 2005 3:47 pm
Has there been anyone who suposively solved ThisIsNotPorn.Com??

Sorry if this is a repeat.
XRedBlazeX • Mar 26, 2005 6:55 pm
KingNOthing wrote:
Has there been anyone who suposively solved ThisIsNotPorn.Com??

Sorry if this is a repeat.

No, nobody has solved "Audition, Death of a Travelling Salesman" yet.
choymantisbxr • Mar 26, 2005 7:59 pm
i meant for each prompt, there could be multiple usernames/ passwords. take for instance whatalovelydrapetheymake, what if Edith Head wasnt the only user account/ password setup? there could be multiple accounts
XRedBlazeX • Mar 27, 2005 2:22 pm
choymantisbxr wrote:
i meant for each prompt, there could be multiple usernames/ passwords. take for instance whatalovelydrapetheymake, what if Edith Head wasnt the only user account/ password setup? there could be multiple accounts

Hm, well I hope Kris wouldn't do that to us hehe, because that'd be hell to figure out.
choymantisbxr • Mar 27, 2005 10:48 pm
come on, we cant let this thread die, we are the farthest along of anyone out there and were close to getting audition death of a traveling salesman
Duey Oxburger • Mar 30, 2005 9:40 am
Just as a reminder:
TINP official forums wrote:
It has been proposed that, as was done in the past, we have a brainstorming c.hat shindig in AIM, IRC, (or likely, both).

I suggest Saturday the 26th, if folks aren't going to be traveling 'til the next day for Easter. April the 2nd is the next best day.

In either case, I'll be entering the room at around 7:00am EST (GMT-5), and will be there until I can't keep my eyes open any longer. All and sundry are welcome to join in, and don't feel that you have to take my leaving (when it happens) as a reason to leave yourself.

AIM room: tinp, feel free to invite yourself. IM me if you need an invite.

IRC: irc.hack3r.com, channel #tinp. If for some reason hack3r is down, we'll try lightning.chattingaway.com, same channel. If they're both down, everything will hapeen on AIM, or we'll find a channel on some other server when it happens.

April 2nd is in a few days, hope you can be there.
hessianhost • Mar 30, 2005 11:54 am
Could someone help me out?

I wanted to go back to the Don't Stray from the Path page with the tree-face, but the password and username combo Xerxes/Demaratus isn't working. I'm sorry if this has come up already, but I did look through the forums and didn't find anything. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance
hessianhost
Duey Oxburger • Mar 30, 2005 1:59 pm
are you sure you used exact capitals? It works for me.
kaoru • Apr 1, 2005 7:52 pm
I stopped playing this game a while back, i come back to it today and the stove on the front page is gone, there's avril lavigne playing, and some creepy blonde boy standing on a beach..... how do i even start this thing off now?
crazypeoplethink • Apr 1, 2005 8:18 pm
April Fools most likely
lol • Apr 1, 2005 10:36 pm
*Gasph* this is it ='( everyone is going to give up=/
Beestie • Apr 1, 2005 11:45 pm
Well, with over 500 posts in this stinkin' thread, maybe its time for some damned porn.

And lo, there was NOT not porn.
choymantisbxr • Apr 1, 2005 11:56 pm
i have a feeling kris reads these forums and knows people are getting bored, so he's switching things up a bit. i also think there was a dead line and we missed it. i say this because the picture....everything about it...is identical to how it was before, except the stove is gone. unless its april fools
wolf • Apr 2, 2005 1:23 am
Beestie wrote:
Well, with over 500 posts in this stinkin' thread, maybe its time for some damned porn.

And lo, there was NOT not porn.


Nice tits.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 2, 2005 2:05 am
I dunno? They look kinda....too perfect....phony....designer...you know. :biggrin:
wolf • Apr 2, 2005 3:22 am
I haven't seen as many as you have. And I don't appreciate them in the same way.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 2, 2005 11:08 am
xoxoxoBruce wrote:
I dunno? They look kinda....too perfect....phony....designer...you know. :biggrin:

So far out of my league I couldn't pick 'em up with a satilite dish, is what I was trying to say. :blush:
choymantisbxr • Apr 3, 2005 4:57 am
hey, sorry i had to leave the chat early. did we manage to figure out the secret of audition death of a traveling salesman?
crazypeoplethink • Apr 3, 2005 12:59 pm
no, we're still stuck on that
Mad_Hatter • Apr 3, 2005 2:16 pm
man, still stuck on that one, its a tuffy, this guy is probably laughing at our ignorance, its not really obvious, this guy is a real riddler. hes the real deal man.
ViscountAlpha • Apr 7, 2005 3:13 am
What if there is no correct solution? Thats a possibility. It can't be ruled out. I may be an idiot saying this but it is a real possibility. :(

*shrug* I shouldn't think like that though.

-vis
XRedBlazeX • Apr 9, 2005 12:12 am
ViscountAlpha wrote:
What if there is no correct solution? Thats a possibility. It can't be ruled out. I may be an idiot saying this but it is a real possibility. :(

*shrug* I shouldn't think like that though.

-vis
Actually, here's one of Kris Boruff's recent posts at the official TINP forums (http://www.thisisnotporn.com/forum/index.php)



Thisisnotporn wrote:
Hey everyone,

I'm should apologize the website hasn't had a major update in awhile. I've been very busy with my classes and a new job. I've also been biding my time to get a few pieces of equipment I needed to finish the website. There was also a loss in the family.

About the website, I do have the ending in mind. I have just been waiting to be able to do it properly. Just this morning I won a bid on a camera package that I also needed to finish the site. My old camera was running down and had a nasty shift to tanish brown saturation. The new camera is has better saturation and control.

I hope the wait hasn't bothered anyone too intensely. The ending will be worthwhile. There will be something after.


"Past perfect doesn't make a perfect past." - My old friend, Mary
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=856
xX_duckie_Xx • Apr 9, 2005 12:45 am
arg... so we couldnt get anywhere >.< nowhere to go

TOO EVIL! lol
Kagen4o4 • Apr 10, 2005 5:39 am
im not sure if anyone mentioned this before but i havent found it any of the forums. what about the line on the BURNING HEL page that says. "One More to Go. What now? Who was the next in line to die?" i havent read any of the books or anything, but i as i said i havent come across anyone in forums relating this to anything. such as "she is hidden. 3 items" and "one more to go"

has anyone picked up on "where is she?" "whereisGotanda.htm"

i found this while "searching" for gotanda

For further inquiries, e-mail: [email]acl2001@columbia.edu[/email] or [email]tanuj@hotmail.com[/email]
Audition!
Looking for great actors....
PERFECT GIRL
A character-driven, off-beat romantic comedy about a young man who regrets losing the 100% perfect girl. Adapted from a short story by Haruki Murakami. (Digital Video, Approx. 10 min., non-union, no pay, credit, meals, copy)
Producers: Fatimah Tobing Rony, Francisco Hernandez
Director: Akira Boch, recent graduate of UCLA Film
School's MFA Directing Program.

on this site http://www.aatrevue.com/Oldnews2002a.html
note the "Adapted from a short story by Haruki Murakami."

probably nothing
Duey Oxburger • Apr 10, 2005 6:51 am
Well the "Who's next in line to die" refers to Dance Dance Dance and the room of skeletons. There are 6 skeletons but we only know 5 by the end of the book.

"where is she""where is gotanda" = Kiki is she, because the whole book of DDD is the protag searching for her. gotanda was eating with the protag when he went missing, but it was found later that he killed himself.

That was a nice find, but i'm not sure how much that would be relevant. it looks like a low grade website so thats never promising :(
Mr. Ears • Apr 10, 2005 7:55 pm
hmmmm.... this may be nothing at all, but on the slight chance that it might be something... here it is: on the 7 light page, in the word died, it has a 4 instead of the e, and then the page before it has 4 c's... and i seem to remember and a forum somewhere, someone equated those numbers and letters or something to japanese writing or something and got words and something or other...
Kagen4o4 • Apr 11, 2005 8:28 pm
the stratches on the stomach say "gotanda"
lol • Apr 11, 2005 8:52 pm
Mr. Ears wrote:
hmmmm.... this may be nothing at all, but on the slight chance that it might be something... here it is: on the 7 light page, in the word died, it has a 4 instead of the e, and then the page before it has 4 c's... and i seem to remember and a forum somewhere, someone equated those numbers and letters or something to japanese writing or something and got words and something or other...

nah thats just 1337 talk, it i5 lik3 t4lking with numb3r5
clumsy_boy • Apr 12, 2005 8:46 pm
Ok, first introductions, I am new to Cellar, but I have been following this thread for a bit now, and I finally decided to join, seeing as how I have new information!
Yes, that is right ladies and gents, there is something you guys don't know

and here it is: I recently purchased a shirt from thisisnotporn, and it came with a certificate of authenticity, and on said certificate, I found that this was written:

"She sits alone, crying in the darkness. She is married to the Dolphin. A future lived in past tense. The Walls are closing in. Only time will tell, if she knew him well. Who's missing? Count it up. Put it all together and find the hidden place. You've almost found here. She can only wait for you, there... in the darkness of paradise. TIME TO DANCE"

That is exactly as it is written, and anywho, I hope I have managed to help to further the cause!
SilverPhoenix • Apr 13, 2005 4:37 am
clumsy_boy wrote:
on said certificate, I found that this was written:

*snip-quote*

That is exactly as it is written, and anywho, I hope I have managed to help to further the cause!


Important question: Is there *anything* else written on there? Below the signature line, or outside the border? A string of letters and/or numbers, a sentence that seems relatively out of place... ?
clumsy_boy • Apr 13, 2005 3:55 pm
There is nothing really out of place, but just in case I will tell you guys all that is on the certificate.

The backround is a picture of two crows purched on a tree, and underneath his signature is written "Past Perfect does not make a Perfect past." then he wrote "Thanks Dale of the North". And then there is the seal, the only thing odd is that on the "official seal" the date on it is Jan 7th 2003, I am not sure how long he has been selling the shirts so it could mean nothing.
Duey Oxburger • Apr 13, 2005 4:53 pm
Interesting...no one else got this on their certificate? I know SilverPhoenix ordered a shirt; was there anything on your certificate?
SilverPhoenix • Apr 14, 2005 6:37 am
I have the same central text, and the background is two birds (I think mine are birds of paradise; their heads are a different color from their bodies and they have long flowy tails).

The date on the seal is the same as the one on the oven-pic on the front page of the site; it looks like it's intended to be an "Established on" date. Under the signature on mine is "Congrats on the baby." (I was expecting my first child at the time), a drawing of a face--which I rather hope is supposed to be a baby's--and a string of numbers and letters resembling the ones in the source code from earlier pages: "V7rwz8zKuLw8ry"

Additionally, ImperialMarshal from the TINP home forums described his certificate back on Dec. 1st: "There is a image of a Bird of Paradise as the background. TINP appears to have added an unique handwritten clue after he signed his name (very sloppily): 'What kind of hamburger stand is this?'"
Kagen4o4 • Apr 14, 2005 6:22 pm
....well that doesnt make any sense at all
Kagen4o4 • Apr 14, 2005 7:31 pm
ok just a few things ive noticed. the name kiki appears three times "three items" items being an anagram for times. and only 3 times. "did i kill kiki" "i kill i, kid kid" and kiki.jpg (from cuck-koo)
ridges is spelt without the d, carapace without an a, maserati with an extra t (maseratti.jpg on anothercorpse.htm) and a lot of things seem to be spelt wih capitals this time. such as SHE IS HIDDEN, THREE ITEMS and some titles and some *.htm's
SilverPhoenix • Apr 15, 2005 6:37 am
the name kiki appears three times "three items" items being an anagram for times.


excellent, excellent find. : D

did you try looking for anagrams in 'riges + carpace + maseratti' (or, outside possibility, just the extra 't' and not the whole word)? Right off the bat I see 'scepter' (or specter) in there.
crazypeoplethink • Apr 15, 2005 8:44 pm
clumsy_boy wrote:
Ok, first introductions, I am new to Cellar, but I have been following this thread for a bit now, and I finally decided to join, seeing as how I have new information!
Yes, that is right ladies and gents, there is something you guys don't know

and here it is: I recently purchased a shirt from thisisnotporn, and it came with a certificate of authenticity, and on said certificate, I found that this was written:

"She sits alone, crying in the darkness. She is married to the Dolphin. A future lived in past tense. The Walls are closing in. Only time will tell, if she knew him well. Who's missing? Count it up. Put it all together and find the hidden place. You've almost found here. She can only wait for you, there... in the darkness of paradise. TIME TO DANCE"

That is exactly as it is written, and anywho, I hope I have managed to help to further the cause!

The her sounds like Yumiyoshi... I believe that's her name my memory might be a bit off...
Kagen4o4 • Apr 16, 2005 1:54 am
dont forget thats on a t-shirt certificate and not really related to audition, death of a traveling salesman
darknessfails • Apr 16, 2005 7:22 pm
Currently on "my eyes are burning hel" page. and i was wondering... the three items, when you click on the hidden outline of the knife or sword or whatever it may be (in the left hand corner) in the right spot, it disapears. are there 2 more items hidden in this page that you must click on in order to move on? has anyone else noticed the items dispearing or even just the sword? thanks.
Kagen4o4 • Apr 16, 2005 7:52 pm
wtf? where do you click it to make it disappear?
Kagen4o4 • Apr 16, 2005 7:53 pm
HOLY .... it does, just on the edge of the hilt.
havent noticed that before

i hope this description helps....through the middle of that section is a lighter strip, you'll see two lighter dots on the right edge of this strip from the bottom, click each pixel to the left (towards the sword) of the second lighter dot from the bottom, and it should. or just click around that area
Duey Oxburger • Apr 16, 2005 7:59 pm
darknessfails wrote:
Currently on "my eyes are burning hel" page. and i was wondering... the three items, when you click on the hidden outline of the knife or sword or whatever it may be (in the left hand corner) in the right spot, it disapears. are there 2 more items hidden in this page that you must click on in order to move on? has anyone else noticed the items dispearing or even just the sword? thanks.


Thats a good idea, but I'm almost positive that is the only thing that dissapears.
avidarival • Apr 17, 2005 12:08 am
This is for anyone who's doing the missing/extra letters. I don't recall anyone mentioning it..but I think the "my eyes are burning hel" thing is missing a "P" (help)
lol • Apr 17, 2005 12:19 pm
Either that or the hel was suppost to be "my eyes are burning hell".
wolf • Apr 17, 2005 2:07 pm
Hel (one L) is the Norse Goddess of the Underworld.

Later stories shorten the name of her realm, Helheim, into "Hel" ... and may be the derivation of the Christian Hell.
atari • Apr 22, 2005 7:59 pm
In the top [left?] corner-ish of the MY EYES ARE BURNING HEL page, there's some scratching on the wall, it reads out to be:

"Lead Lined Box of Despair"

That's a bit from Dance Dance Dance, unless I'm mistaken.


Also, a bit from TINP himself that might prove helpful to you guys:

"Think literal"



By the way, hi. I'm Atari. Nice to meet you guys! :D
crazypeoplethink • Apr 22, 2005 8:40 pm
*pokes atari*
I think I know you....
I need to start working on the puzzle again, I've been really lazy towards it lately
Edit:
The Hel Page... hs anyone clicked on the hand?
When I did it led me to another page with fishes and it says "I wouldn't be able to wash it off"
They're talking aboput Gotanda... but from there I'm not sure where to go
Double Edit:
When you click anywhere on the fish page it says "What's happened to me?" and the date of the picture is December 3, 1841
Thriple Edit:
Who died after Gotanda? It was Dick North, right?
Kagen4o4 • Apr 23, 2005 1:59 am
no dick noth died before.
also please read previous posts as pretty much everything has been covered already

its the top right that says lead lined box of despair. if you want more clues and things that people have found, go to the TINP forum.
this is the "audition, DOATS" thread: http://www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=671
atari • Apr 23, 2005 2:23 am
CrazyPeople: Really? Awesome. Where from?

Kagen: If you're aiming that at me, I have read all the pages, and I didn't see the Box of Despair thing in there. Also, I'm a member at the TINP forums already, but thanks anyways.
Kagen4o4 • Apr 23, 2005 3:23 am
sorry it was more towards crazys post. but i just realised i was thinking about the TINP forums with the lead lined box thing.
crazypeoplethink • Apr 23, 2005 1:28 pm
Kagen: I have read all the posts I've been on here for a long enough time sorry if my memory sucks, and I've been to the TINP forums too, not to mention been here longer than you
Atari: From Slackers
wolf • Apr 23, 2005 2:25 pm
Wow. The TINP's have their own pecking order.
atari • Apr 23, 2005 2:58 pm
Crazy: I am from Slackers! What's your UN there?
santacamaleona • Apr 23, 2005 7:13 pm
First of all, hello everyone, this is my first post here

and second, sorry if this has already been posted (though i searched the thread and didnt find it), but on the status bar from the hotel front page, i noticed this: Dsvivrhgsvhsvvknzm!
which translates to: Where is the sheepman?

now, from what i've read here and there (haven't read the book, too lazy =P) the sheepman's in a hotel or something, right?
then there's the other status bar message: H.M.'s Hotel of the Aquatic Mammal
Maybe H.M. refers to Haruki Murakami, the author of DDD?

Also, somewhere else on the site there was a hidden message saying something like "l'Hotel Dauphin" which is, i think, "the dolphin hotel". that would relate to the "hotel of the aquatic mammal"

I suck at this kind of things anyway, but hell they get my attention
atari • Apr 23, 2005 7:38 pm
santacamaleona wrote:
now, from what i've read here and there (haven't read the book, too lazy =P) the sheepman's in a hotel or something, right?
then there's the other status bar message: H.M.'s Hotel of the Aquatic Mammal
Maybe H.M. refers to Haruki Murakami, the author of DDD?

Also, somewhere else on the site there was a hidden message saying something like "l'Hotel Dauphin" which is, i think, "the dolphin hotel". that would relate to the "hotel of the aquatic mammal"


The Dolphin Hotel (or L'Hotel Dauphin, the name of the fancy pants new Dolphin) is a big part of DDD, so you're bang on, but it's old news.

Do read the book, though. It's a good read, plus it explains a lot in TINP. :)


Welcome, BTW. I just joined, too.


+EDITATTACK+

I came up with a good, long list of possible UNs and PWs based on ideas I've had and things I've seen come up. Here it is.

UNs:
Dec11; Dec112000; 11Dec2000; 11December2000; December112000; December11; 061100; 06112000; 1106; 0611; 2000; 1999; Trial; The Trial; Kiki; Yumiyoshi; Gotanda; Odition; Ôdition; Konkurs; WifeHunt; GirlfriendHunt; WifeSearch; GirlfriendSearch; Asami; Yamazaki; AsamiYamazaki; Eihi; EihiShiina; Shiina; CoinLockerBabies; Ryu; RyuMurakami; Kafka; FranzKafka

PWs:
March31; March311915; 31March; 31March1915; Mar31; Mar312000; 31Mar2000; 03311915; 033115; 0331, 3103; 1915; Metamorphosis; Apple; Apples; Infect; Infection; Infected; RottenApple; Starvation; Malnutrition; Influenza; CardiacArrest; HeartAttack; Heart; WeakOfHeart; WeakHeart; Kafka; FranzKafka; Welty; EudoraWelty; 1936; 1941; Samsa; GregorSamsa; Gregor; Grete; Father; MrSamsa; 9Iron; NineIron; "Bob"; "Bob"Dobbs; Bob; BobDobbs; Subgenius;

I'm currently working on getting through these to see if any combo works.
santacamaleona • Apr 23, 2005 7:45 pm
Yeah, i imagined =P so we're gonna go insane before we solve this, right?
santacamaleona • Apr 23, 2005 8:27 pm
i wouldnt try with the two or more words UNs or PWs, since every other UN or PW on the site was one-word only
anyway, just a thought
atari • Apr 24, 2005 1:48 am
Not so, the light before last had three words in the UN.

I wish that was so, though. That would simplify things a bunch.
EliteAssasin • Apr 24, 2005 5:51 pm
So How do you get in the secret forum thats in the TINP forums? everoyne say its ansty and scary and everyone is doomed,how do you get the password and can anyone be very nice and give me the password?its password protected,i was trying to guess the forrum apssword but its hard
EliteAssasin • Apr 24, 2005 6:07 pm
I THINK I GOT THE ANSWER OT DEATH OF A TRAVELING SALES MAN UN/PW

think about it,AUDITION-->TRIAL,tryout

Death-->"Did i kill kiki? so who said this who said they might have thought they killed kiki maybe this the key
atari • Apr 24, 2005 6:37 pm
EliteAssasin wrote:
So How do you get in the secret forum thats in the TINP forums? everoyne say its ansty and scary and everyone is doomed,how do you get the password and can anyone be very nice and give me the password?its password protected,i was trying to guess the forrum apssword but its hard


It's actually very easy, but that's all I'm going to tell you about that.

And that's not the right UN/PW. Gotanda said "Did I kill Kiki?", and if anything, that'd be the UN, not the PW.
thktanuki • Apr 24, 2005 8:44 pm
Wow... I are stumped. Grrrr.... I hate it when that sort of thing happens....
Ok, if we knew what the fscking realm... inferred to, then looking for any connections would be a helluva lot easier. Maybe we should look up the cast and crew of the film version of Death of a Salesman?

Mayhaps that would provide a UN/PW.... maybe?

Oh, btw.... Hi, I am glad to have joined this forum.... after committing it nostly to memory. lol
thktanuki • Apr 24, 2005 8:48 pm
Sry to double-post... but what if maybe we need to find out who DIDN'T make the cut for the movie... dammit! I have confused myself........
thktanuki • Apr 24, 2005 8:59 pm
More apologies.... i haven't read the books: Who is the Sheepman?
atari • Apr 24, 2005 9:07 pm
Read it.
Kagen4o4 • Apr 25, 2005 8:29 pm
santacamaleona wrote:
i wouldnt try with the two or more words UNs or PWs, since every other UN or PW on the site was one-word only
anyway, just a thought



there was ADEADBABE
im gonna be kicking myself when i find out what the un/pw are cause i just know its gonna be really obvious.
crazypeoplethink • Apr 25, 2005 10:10 pm
Same here Kagen.... It's probably something sooo extremely obvious we've all overlooked a million times....
Atari, you know my UN on slackers now so need to tell you....
I'm rather lost on the Audition thing... My brain is racked... I can't come up with anything new or something that someone hasn't already noticed
Edit:
How specifically does Rat die? Rat is the traveling salesman from Wild Sheep We Chase
avidarival • Apr 26, 2005 11:17 am
crazypeoplethink wrote:
Same here Kagen.... It's probably something sooo extremely obvious we've all overlooked a million times....
Atari, you know my UN on slackers now so need to tell you....
I'm rather lost on the Audition thing... My brain is racked... I can't come up with anything new or something that someone hasn't already noticed
Edit:
How specifically does Rat die? Rat is the traveling salesman from Wild Sheep We Chase


He hangs himself, doesn't he?
atari • Apr 26, 2005 2:18 pm
I know that the UN/PW combo isn't Kiki/TheRat, but I believe that they do involve those two characters. Or could, at least.
crazypeoplethink • Apr 26, 2005 8:53 pm
atari wrote:
I know that the UN/PW combo isn't Kiki/TheRat, but I believe that they do involve those two characters. Or could, at least.

Rat is his name I believe, he's an actual person I know.. but I'm pretty sure it's just Rat
Avida, I'm not sure i haven't read the sheep book...yet
atari • Apr 27, 2005 8:39 pm
I'm pretty sure it's The Rat, because that's what the protag. calls him in DDD.

But what do I know, I'm still searching for WSC around here.
Noxicity • Apr 28, 2005 2:08 am
can someone link me to where you guys are at currently?

I came here a looong time ago then ive been playing this while doing other things and forgot about the cellar...but id really love to help :D
Duey Oxburger • Apr 28, 2005 7:07 pm
We are trying to solve the closest light at this page http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/SM.htm

As for The Rat, I've read WSC and that is all he is known as in WSC.
Noxicity • Apr 28, 2005 11:28 pm
whats the un/pw for "Whatalovelydrapetheymake"
Kagen4o4 • Apr 30, 2005 4:41 am
look at the picture. it says it right in front of you
crazypeoplethink • Apr 30, 2005 12:16 pm
Edith
Head

Kagen's right it's in the picture but you have to zoom in a lot if I remember correctly
SidelineWarrior • May 2, 2005 7:15 pm
ay, i don't know if anyone noticed this but

on the MY EYES ARE BURNING HEL page

the insignia right above the guys head
its a fist with two lightning bolts
i've been looking, but i can't find any that look like that

anyone else know what it might be?
Kagen4o4 • May 3, 2005 12:02 am
SidelineWarrior wrote:
ay, i don't know if anyone noticed this but

on the MY EYES ARE BURNING HEL page

the insignia right above the guys head
its a fist with two lightning bolts
i've been looking, but i can't find any that look like that

anyone else know what it might be?


ive searched for it too but havent come up with anything that seems significant
crazypeoplethink • May 3, 2005 9:32 pm
maybe something related to Zeus/Jupiter... cause they were gods of lightning and all
SilverPhoenix • May 4, 2005 11:28 am
/6/ has been solved. At least one person (maybe two) on the official forums have gotten it.

No, before you ask, I'm not one of them.
atari • May 4, 2005 2:27 pm
That Xaero guy is beginning to really piss me off with all his "I SOLVED IT MARVEL!" posts.

:dead:
SilverPhoenix • May 4, 2005 2:28 pm
what, all three of them? :p

edit: miscounted. :lol:
Kagen4o4 • May 4, 2005 5:27 pm
i dont think Xaero has solved it. he does seem excited enough and hasnt given anything that would suggest he has.

i could say ive finished it too and have everyone ask me questions about it.
"no i wont tell you'll just have to work it out for your selves, its not that hard" i would say and make you all think the answer is just around the corner
Xaero • May 4, 2005 7:10 pm
Sorry if I have offended any of you. I posted once in the /6/ thread, and once on the board news because I thought it was news worthy. Anyway, for Audition, find similarities, and for Death, look through /5/ a bit, and be careful how you format the password.(The reason everyone has been stuck.) It's been covered here.

- Xaero

And yes, I am excited. :D
atari • May 4, 2005 8:24 pm
We noticed. =P


BTW, TINPites, I'm Sydvicious. :D
SilverPhoenix • May 5, 2005 1:06 pm
Edit: I'm in.
Mr. Ears • May 5, 2005 2:06 pm
atari wrote:
We noticed. =P


BTW, TINPites, I'm Sydvicious. :D



lol... TINPites... thisisnotpornites... i find that kinda funny...
Xaero • May 5, 2005 5:18 pm
Author, Travelling_Salesman
Duey Oxburger • May 5, 2005 5:22 pm
I have solved it...thanks to SilverPhoenix.
glatt • May 5, 2005 5:35 pm
It's been about 11 months since I gave up and last posted in this thread. Are you guys saying that you have solved the puzzle that is TINP?
Xaero • May 5, 2005 5:49 pm
Just the next super tricky prompt.
crazypeoplethink • May 5, 2005 6:40 pm
*is confused*
I have more ideas...but of course other people gave them to me....
*is going to go test them now*
Edit:
I'm still stuck
>.<
Kagen4o4 • May 5, 2005 7:23 pm
nfi....NFI!!!
Kagen4o4 • May 5, 2005 7:27 pm
oh wait...im in. that was pretty easy besides the format.
santacamaleona • May 6, 2005 4:27 pm
Hey, if i could get in, anybody can
thanks for the hints =P
atari • May 6, 2005 7:59 pm
Crazy: Xaero's prompt is a dead givaway.

Ask me on AIM if you're totally stuck.
Kagen4o4 • May 7, 2005 12:30 am
ok heres everything from the next page.
for those of you on TINP forum, i may have stolen your stuff without quoting but who really cares huh?

cats stevens, sad lisa and Lonesome Suzie by Richard Manuel

QUOTE(SilverPhoenix @ May 6 2005, 06:58 AM)
Let's see...

The 3-digit codes are the coordinates for the imagemaps (the links around the tree and window).

The {Bad core. Coo! Bearded crab. Bore cad.} text anagrams to 'barcode', repeated four times.

The text in the upper-right corner of the close-up house pic decodes to "Where did he drop his axe Vignere?"

The text in the window of the same pic decodes to "Nyr reproaches to two {bouq?}" (not sure of the last word)

The barcodes themselves, so far, are not supposed to line up. They translate out to several different phrases. Some are from DDD and some aren't... My final decode on them yields the following:
"I was entirely alone in total darkness and it was utterly quiet." (darkroom.jpg)
"Even the darkness of night was different." (summer.jpg, bottom)
"The area had changed Mark" (undevilish%20net.jpg)
"I scarcely talk to the cat anymore." (winter.jpg)
"What was Paige's number?" (summer.jpg, part of top left)
"crownswordscepterm" (summer.jpg, part of top left)
The last two are new references, and I'm not sure if the 'm' at the end of the 'crown' string is supposed to be there. There's one more barcode that I can't read because it's all fuzzied up (the one on the top-right of summer.jpg).

The portrait in the ASCII art is of Blaise Vigenere, and is (likely) from this Wikipedia page {link}.

If nobody remembers, "undevilish net" anagrams to "devil in the sun".

The long strings of gibberish strike me as being Vignere-type codes (check that Wiki link for more info)--we just need to figure out what the key might be.


BOX
BOX
BOX
SHOVEL THAT GOOD SNOW

next bit by Deius Infectus
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/Deiu...us/portrait.jpg POOR CHASTENER is an anagram for ANOTHER CORPSE
Here is the cipher key for the text in the window and top right of darkroom.jpg:
CODEZYXWVUTSRQPONMLK9876543210 - enciphered
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ - deciphered

The problem is that part of the window text is "GDJ" and "FJ" which are not part of that cipher, since the numbers were used instead of a to j. Those two words must use a different key. So here is the revised deciphered text so far:
CODEMl6 8vk8lzxsv7
Not reproaches

6I GDJ y1 FJ,
to --- by --,

3sv8v wrw sv w8lk sr7 z2v. 4rtmv8v?
Where did he drop his axe. Vignere?


She was married to the Dolphin

THTTHEHSNAGNTONAHICHOKTTEYOSEPLCBRTHAHEMSDATEESAHWURTEASHROGEITAOHIOLRKOOOAKETEH
NRITHMBATHOCPIHEDBOSEHAWUINTBDETYGPDYILPITLALSLDKRTIEDTEETIWUTNTETEIHIYAEEGEEILA
ATTRNBOEEHOPLILOHLNAYDIIAGHDNTUHLWTIAIDHIIAGHDNTUHLODEAN which needs a key to decode it the vigenere way so far as can tell.


add more or correct any mistakes ive made
Duey Oxburger • May 7, 2005 8:53 am
Just to let you guys know, the IRC and AIM chatrooms are always open:
Me wrote:
Now that we've had a breakthrough, we should all pool our ideas.

IRC: irc.hack3r.com #tinp

AIM: tinp (IM me if you need to be invited)

See you guys there!
crazypeoplethink • May 7, 2005 8:46 pm
If you click on the tree base, you'll go to the next page... a pic of house with a pop up
It looks like a passage... I don't recognize it.. does any one?
Kagen4o4 • May 7, 2005 10:43 pm
the pop up on the 2nd (vig.htm) page is the lyrics to cat stevens sad lisa, on the third page (near.htm by clicking the window on the right) its the lyrics to lonesome suzie by Richard Manuel.

pretty much everything has been decoded except this string: THTTHEHSNAGNTONAHICHOKTTEYOSEPLCBRTHAHEMSDATEESAHWURTEASHROGEITAOHIOLRKOOOAKETEH
NRITHMBATHOCPIHEDBOSEHAWUINTBDETYGPDYILPITLALSLDKRTIEDTEETIWUTNTETEIHIYAEEGEEILA
ATTRNBOEEHOPLILOHLNAYDIIAGHDNTUHLWTIAIDHIIAGHDNTUHLODEAN
above the portrait of Vigenere in the source code of near.htm (vig.htm near.htm)
which seems to be made from the vigenere code which needs a key which we havent found yet.

latest thing from TINP forums is "poor chastener" and "not reproaches" are anagrams of "another corpse" and "to 639 by 59" was decoded from "6I GDJ y1 FJ"
Duey Oxburger • May 8, 2005 8:23 am
Kagen, dont forget this string: aadbre odndl Ihxbit ntwl ehte seh nhtw ntthnn wrewpcthl n tctap slnnb heed te letw ntttodpt in Vig.htm

I'm working on the two strings, but its amazingly hard to guess keys out of thin air.
EliteAssasin • May 8, 2005 6:18 pm
Wierd,hey on the Robert Silvers page im not sure if this is new but if you click on the :Photo taken by Kristain" part click there once or twice a pop up comes up titled"1 2" and then its just like a gate or jail cell kinda thing,is this new and if not check it out and tell em waht you think
Kagen4o4 • May 8, 2005 7:46 pm
EliteAssasin wrote:
Wierd,hey on the Robert Silvers page im not sure if this is new but if you click on the :Photo taken by Kristain" part click there once or twice a pop up comes up titled"1 2" and then its just like a gate or jail cell kinda thing,is this new and if not check it out and tell em waht you think


nah its not new. i cant remember what the navajo language said but it isnt new.

Duey Oxburger wrote:
Kagen, dont forget this string: aadbre odndl Ihxbit ntwl ehte seh nhtw ntthnn wrewpcthl n tctap slnnb heed te letw ntttodpt in Vig.htm

I'm working on the two strings, but its amazingly hard to guess keys out of thin air.


yeah i know what you mean. i havent been applying the vigenere way to the aabdre one yet cause it doesnt seem to be in the same format as every other vigenere code ive seen around the place. although the 3 "t's" in the second last word would suggest it isnt just a one to one code.

i cant think of any other word from the 3 pages that could be a key. ive tried everything and all i get is gibberish. TINP better not have encrypted it twice with two different keys. although the more i think of it the more it doesnt sound that stupid, like a un and pw.
crazypeoplethink • May 9, 2005 7:38 pm
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this was in the source[/SIZE]
nm... on the page "Shovel that good snow"
press control u
if you quote me it won't work well either... you have to see the actual source..it's like a picture of something
atari • May 9, 2005 8:54 pm
It's a portrait of Blaise Vignere. Major hint to get us to use Vignere code.
Kagen4o4 • May 10, 2005 12:07 am
FFS WHAT IS THE KEY???
NOTHING WORKS!!
EliteAssasin • May 10, 2005 2:28 pm
but who is the salesman,i asked Xaero and he says think metamorphisis
EliteAssasin • May 10, 2005 5:44 pm
Could anybody be nice enough to like post the USNM and PW for us? just for the people that are struggling?
Kagen4o4 • May 10, 2005 6:02 pm
go back to Xaero's clue for the username and password on page 45. hes put down the eact format you need.
then think the movie "audition" (http://www.jahsonic.com/RyuMurakami.html) and the book "metamorphisis" (http://www.herzogbr.net/kafka/meta.htm). Xaero has said exactly what to write for the un and pw.
you'll feel much better if someone doesnt just tell you this one
atari • May 10, 2005 7:48 pm
Kagen4o4 wrote:
FFS WHAT IS THE KEY???
NOTHING WORKS!!


Don't be so negative, SOMETHING'S gotta work!


Damn my optimism.
crazypeoplethink • May 10, 2005 10:52 pm
It's easy after you think about it but Xaero is right think metamorphisis
atari you're too smart for your own good, that or I'm really really thick
atari • May 11, 2005 7:44 pm
I'm not that smart, I just got it after the Author, Traveling_Salesman prompt that's oh-so-friggin'-giveaway.
Kagen4o4 • May 11, 2005 11:25 pm
but at least its not just coming out and telling it. it PRACTICALLY is but it isnt.
SilverPhoenix • May 12, 2005 12:57 pm
Kagen4o4 wrote:
TINP better not have encrypted it twice with two different keys. although the more i think of it the more it doesnt sound that stupid, like a un and pw.


That's a pretty good idea, the un/pw bit. Only question is, where are the clues? Maybe the 'dropped axe' and 'Paige's number' questions?

Y'know what would really suck? If it's Vigenere'd into it's current form, but the plaintext still needs to be decoded with that other key, the one used on the window text. ugh...
Kagen4o4 • May 12, 2005 8:17 pm
he would have been a little more obvious about there being 2 keys though. unless its in the other string we havent figured out yet. for all we know it could say "the two keys are blah and blah"
SilverPhoenix • May 13, 2005 3:41 pm
A current map of the site: (no passwords on this one, folks :)

[CODE]Oven Page (homepage): click window on oven door
| Title: Something Is Coming
V
Asia Awaits (not.htm): red background. Click 'Asia' text to get prompt.
| Title: afg bbb bai bab adc aig bba baa adc ahd bab bab aef
| Prompt: 'HeWhoLivesByTheSword'
| Clues: Check the source code.
V
Truck Page (TimeFlows.htm): Decipher the clues and change the page URL to
continue.
| Title: Patients.......079 110 032 116 [...more three-digit #'s]
| Clues: Check the source code. Google and anagramming will help.
V
Treesign Page ({answerfromprevious}.htm): Click the sign to get prompt.
| Title: HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME?
| Prompt: 'WhatALovelyDrapeTheyMake'
| Clues: Source code, Photoshop.
V
Hotel Page (Aquatic.htm): Click a lower window to continue to the next screen.
| Title: the eyes that C the Claws that CatCh
| Clues: Source code, but only for further pages.
V
The Lights Page (SM.htm): Click on the lowest light first, to get the later
| clues in the correct order.
| Title: A moth flew in the room when I di4d
| Prompt, L1 (../1/~.htm): 'Curiosity Killed The Cat'
| Prompt, L2 (../2/~.htm): 'Master and Betrayer'
| Prompt, L3 (../3/~.htm): 'Dorothy and Scarecrow'
| Prompt, L4 (../4/~.htm): 'FACE0F, What darkness do we live'
| Prompt, L5 (../5/~.htm): 'Frankenstein now, Yuki's Bird'
| Prompt, L6 (../6/~.htm): 'Audition, Death of a Traveling Salesman'
| Clues: mouseover statusbar messages.
V
-+->First Light (../1/1.htm) Click the license plate to open a subpage.
| Title: THEY CAN'T ESCAPE THE STORM
| Page 'number': 73
| Walls code(s): Outside: 1F DH | Inside: none
>--->License Plate (HypericumPerforatum.htm)
| Title: Hide Your Sorrows
| Clues: the ASCII text making up the picture is a code, repeated several
| times over. Decode it, then Google the quote to answer the next
| prompt.
|
-+->Second Light (../2/toto.htm) Click the 'eyes' of the tree to find subpages.
| Title: DON'T STRAY FROM THE PATH
| Page 'number': 54
| Walls code(s): Outside: 2F SJ | Inside: 2f, BR 9f
| Clues: "ALL IS DEAD AND GONE WHAT WAS LEFT BY THE WOEBEGONE" in the
| source code
| Photoshopped text in the left side of the photo reads "How would
| you like it if someone picked something off of you?"
>--->The Black page (../2/left.htm) The 'eye' on your left, not the tree's.
| Title: We Face Each Other Across A Small Table.
| Clues: "HTATDSENETCURDTNRHEOSEOLFH" below the image.
| The bulk of the page is an all-black jpg, with imagemaps that
| spell out "Shovel that good snow" backwards.
| Mouseover statusbar messages describe the Sheepman's room.
>--->The Tunnel page (../2/right.htm) The 'eye' on your right, not the tree's.
| Title: Philip K. Dick's Fortune Cookie
| Clues: The six parts of the image change upon mouseover to show lines
| from Coleridge's Rime of the Ancient Mariner.
| The bottom slice of image is also an animated .gif that flashes
| 'YOU ARE NOT OF[sic] THE PATH' once every ~ten seconds.
|
-+->Third Light (../3/WeAreConnected.htm) Click the date and the faint circles
| to open subpages.
| Title: Robert Silvers
| Page 'number': 23
| Walls code(s): Outside: 9G BR | Inside: BR 9g
| Clues: Clicking the smaller windmill pops up a JS message encoded in
| Navajo, specifically that from the code used in WWII.
| There are five hard-to-see circles just below the windmills; each
| one leads to a smaller popup window, displaying a robotic head, as
| well as displaying mouseover status messages.
>--->The Heads pages (../3/head/[1-5].htm)
| Titles: 1: Piggy Piggy
| 2: We've Got Ventriloquists
| 3: Who Watches the Watchme...
| 4: We Are Connected
| 5: a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy
| Clues: Each of the head pictures is a variant of "David Hanson.jpg",
| and all five pages have "unhssrvelette " (with the space) in the
| source code. This anagrams to 'seventh result', which is the
| appropriate Google result to find the David Hanson who created
| the head.
>--->The Steel Bars page (../3/ever_yo_ne_i_sdead.htm)
| Title: 1 2
| Clues: Upon page load, a JS popup appears that has Navajo text in it.
|
-+->Fourth Light (../4/1129524974645525182.htm) Click the power lines and the
| vehicle in the distance for popup messages, both plaintext &
| Navajo.
| Title: THE DEVIL WITH 5 FINGERS
| Page 'number': 999
| Walls code(s): Outside: 4I ST | Inside: 4I ST
| Clues: Several images are named to 'fit' together: 'I', 'am', 'cursed.'
| and 'diablo'.
| Photoshopped text in upper-left sky reads "[The danger] must be
| growing/[For the rowers keep on rowing/And they certianly are not
| showing/any] signs that they [are slowing.]"
|
-+->Fifth Light (../5/three.htm) Click the figure's face, the biohazard symbol,
| and the fist above the figure's head for subpages. Double-click
| the dagger to make it fade. Click 'Ever so peaceably' and the
| figure's chest for popup messages.
| Title: MY EYES ARE BURNING HEL [sic]
| Page 'number': 1107
| Walls code(s): Outside: 4S TC | Inside: 4I ST
| Clues: Several anagrams/Navajo codes/etc. in the popups.
>--->The Fish page (../5/ANOTHERCORPSE.htm) (click the fist-in-a-circle)
| Title: I wouldn't be able to wash it off.
| Clues: "I am a smuts innuendo" in the source code.
| "THE CURSE OF THE MASERATI" in a JS mouseover; "What's Happened
| to me?" in a popup.
>--->Idle Tuesday page (../5/UNREQUITEDLOVE.htm) (click the biohazard sign)
| Title: Cuck-Koo
| Clues: "Did I kill Kiki?" in a popup; the image is 'kiki.jpg'.
>--->The Scepter page (../5/WhereIsGotanda.htm) (click the figure's chest)
| Title: SCEPTER
| Clues: "Thoughtyou'dgetheresooner" as a JS popup.
| Has an animated .gif, of a handprint changing to a hoofprint.
| Click the image to open a sub-subpage.
>------>The Carpace page (../5/Carpace.htm)
| Title: [none]
| Clues: Inverted (white text) ASCII art; an outline of a cockroach.
|
-+->Sixth Light (../6/FindTheDate.htm) Click the tree for a subpage.
| Title: Sun and Death Travel Together
| Page 'number': 2371
| Walls code(s): Outside: The Walls Are Closing In | Inside: BR 9g
| Clues: passing your mouse over the image changes the season from winter
| to summer and viceversa.
| summer.jpg has "Bad core.", "Coo! Bearded crab", and "Bore cad."
| photoshopped into the sky. These all anagram to 'barcode'.
| Every image 'inside' this light has one or more barcodes embedded
| in it.
| Barcodes decode as:
| "Even the darkness of night was different."
| "What was Paige's number?"
| "crownswordscepterm"
| "I scarcely talk to the cat anymore."
| There's one more barcode that is too blurred to read.
>--->The First House page (5coffinsandoneempty/Vig.htm) Click the right-hand
| window for a subpage.
| Title: A Perfectly Common Accident
| Clues: 'BOX', repeated three times, and 'SHOVEL THAT GOOD SNOW', both
| in the source code.
| "She was married to the Dolphin", in Windows 'Symbol' font,
| embedded in the left-side sky.
| A long string of gibberish in the source code, possibly Vigenere
| code.
| Barcode decodes as "The area had changed Mark"
| 'Sad Lisa' lyrics, by Cat Stevens, popup upon page load.
| The image name, "undevilish net" anagrams to "devil in the sun".
>---> The Closeup House page (5coffinsandoneempty/Near.htm)
| Title: ShovelThatGoodSnow
| Clues: ASCII portrait in the source code, of Blaise Vigenere. See
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaise_de_Vigen%E8re for details
| about the man.
| A very long string of gibberish above the portrait, possibly
| Vigenere code.
| [Ml6 8vk8lzxsv7 6I GDJ y1 FJ,] photoshopped (upside-down and
| backwards) in the window.
| [3sv8v wrw sv w8lk sr7 z2v. 4rtmv8v?] photoshopped into the
| upper-right sky.
| 'Lonesome Suzie' lyrics, by Richard Manuel of The Band, popup
| upon page load.
| mouseover status message "poor chastener", which anagrams to
| "another corpse".
| Barcode decodes to "I was entirely alone in total darkness and
| it was utterly quiet."
|
V
The next page ... ???[/CODE]
atari • May 13, 2005 6:23 pm
Silly SilverPhoenix. You forgot the map!

I'd post it, but I already closed the TINAS page.
crazypeoplethink • May 13, 2005 7:49 pm
On the FIsh page... where's the biohazard sign
o_O
atari • May 13, 2005 11:09 pm
Do you mean the fish page in /5? If so, the biohazard sign is on the main page of /5. To the right of the dude, and beneath the disappearing sword.
Kagen4o4 • May 14, 2005 4:15 am
atari wrote:
Do you mean the fish page in /5? If so, the biohazard sign is on the main page of /5. To the right of the dude, and beneath the disappearing sword.


the left when looking at it.
SilverPhoenix • May 14, 2005 8:47 am
atari wrote:
Silly SilverPhoenix. You forgot the map!


eh? It's a site-layout text map, not a graphical one, if that's what you mean.
crazypeoplethink • May 14, 2005 2:00 pm
Ohhhh that page... *feels stupid*
I think there's a few pages you forgot SP
SilverPhoenix • May 14, 2005 3:00 pm
No, they're all there. Sub-pages are marked with >--->, and depending on how your browser interprets cellar.org's php, you may need to scroll down inside the Code: box.

I went back and edited the markup to add some clarity. Hope that'll help.
crazypeoplethink • May 14, 2005 4:26 pm
SilverPhoenix wrote:
No, they're all there. Sub-pages are marked with >--->, and depending on how your browser interprets cellar.org's php, you may need to scroll down inside the Code: box.

I went back and edited the markup to add some clarity. Hope that'll help.

No they're not... there are pages after the dvil with five fingers page
http://thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/4/Plutarch's%20lives.htm
http://thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/4/Sorrows%20of%20Werter.htm
http://thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/4/Moluccas.htm
I'm not sure about the order though
Kagen4o4 • May 14, 2005 6:58 pm
lol ive never seen those pages before
Silox • May 14, 2005 10:33 pm
Use a mirror to read the quotes on pages 1 and 2. The third page is easily read. I have no idea what they mean though. =/
Kine • May 15, 2005 12:19 am
"Cursed, cursed creator! Why did I live? Why, in that instant, did I not extinguish the spark of existence which you had so wantonly bestowed?"
-Frankenstein, chapter 16?

Did I request thee, Maker, from my clay
To mould me man? Did I solicit thee
From darkness to promote me?
--John Milton (1608-1674), Paradise Lost (1667)

Can't find the other page.
As for order I'm sure it's:
http://thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/4/Moluccas.htm
http://thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/4/Plutarch's%20lives.htm
http://thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/4/Sorrows%20of%20Werter.htm

After all the text in the background can become:
'There's something really abnormal about you, you know'

Isn't that familiar...Woo hoo:
Another DDD reference.

Hope this somewhat helps.
SilverPhoenix • May 15, 2005 9:12 am
crazypeoplethink wrote:
No they're not... there are pages after the dvil with five fingers page
http://thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/4/Plutarch's%20lives.htm
http://thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/4/Sorrows%20of%20Werter.htm
http://thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/4/Moluccas.htm
I'm not sure about the order though


Ah, you're right. I'd forgotten those, thanks. (forgotten 'cause they aren't linked anywhere that I'm aware of. Must look at 4 again, I guess :) Update shortly.
SilverPhoenix • May 15, 2005 9:56 am
[SIZE=2]Updated.[/SIZE]

A current text map. (too long with the extra pages ;) Split between two posts.)

[CODE]Oven Page (homepage): click window on oven door
| Title: Something Is Coming
V
Asia Awaits (not.htm): red background. Click 'Asia' text to get prompt.
| Title: afg bbb bai bab adc aig bba baa adc ahd bab bab aef
| Prompt: 'HeWhoLivesByTheSword'
| Clues: Check the source code.
V
Truck Page (TimeFlows.htm): Decipher the clues and change the page URL to
continue.
| Title: Patients.......079 110 032 116 [...more three-digit #'s]
| Clues: Check the source code. Google and anagramming will help.
V
Treesign Page ({answerfromprevious}.htm): Click the sign to get prompt.
| Title: HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME?
| Prompt: 'WhatALovelyDrapeTheyMake'
| Clues: Source code, Photoshop.
V
Hotel Page (Aquatic.htm): Click a lower window to continue to the next screen.
| Title: the eyes that C the Claws that CatCh
| Clues: Source code, but only for further pages.
V
The Lights Page (SM.htm): Click on the lowest light first, to get the later
| clues in the correct order.
| Title: A moth flew in the room when I di4d
| Prompt, L1 (../1/~.htm): 'Curiosity Killed The Cat'
| Prompt, L2 (../2/~.htm): 'Master and Betrayer'
| Prompt, L3 (../3/~.htm): 'Dorothy and Scarecrow'
| Prompt, L4 (../4/~.htm): 'FACE0F, What darkness do we live'
| Prompt, L5 (../5/~.htm): 'Frankenstein now, Yuki's Bird'
| Prompt, L6 (../6/~.htm): 'Audition, Death of a Traveling Salesman'
| Clues: mouseover statusbar messages.
V
-+->First Light (../1/1.htm) Click the license plate to open a subpage.
| Title: THEY CAN'T ESCAPE THE STORM
| Page 'number': 73
| Walls code(s): Outside: 1F DH | Inside: none
>--->License Plate (HypericumPerforatum.htm)
| Title: Hide Your Sorrows
| Clues: the ASCII text making up the picture is a code, repeated several
| times over. Decode it, then Google the quote to answer the next
| prompt.
|
-+->Second Light (../2/toto.htm) Click the 'eyes' of the tree to find subpages.
| Title: DON'T STRAY FROM THE PATH
| Page 'number': 54
| Walls code(s): Outside: 2F SJ | Inside: 2f, BR 9f
| Clues: "ALL IS DEAD AND GONE WHAT WAS LEFT BY THE WOEBEGONE" in the
| source code
| Photoshopped text in the left side of the photo reads "How would
| you like it if someone picked something off of you?"
>--->The Black page (../2/left.htm) The 'eye' on your left, not the tree's.
| Title: We Face Each Other Across A Small Table.
| Clues: "HTATDSENETCURDTNRHEOSEOLFH" below the image.
| The bulk of the page is an all-black jpg, with imagemaps that
| spell out "Shovel that good snow" backwards.
| Mouseover statusbar messages describe the Sheepman's room.
>--->The Tunnel page (../2/right.htm) The 'eye' on your right, not the tree's.
| Title: Philip K. Dick's Fortune Cookie
| Clues: The six parts of the image change upon mouseover to show lines
| from Coleridge's Rime of the Ancient Mariner.
| The bottom slice of image is also an animated .gif that flashes
| 'YOU ARE NOT OF[sic] THE PATH' once every ~ten seconds.
|
-+->Third Light (../3/WeAreConnected.htm) Click the date and the faint circles
| to open subpages.
| Title: Robert Silvers
| Page 'number': 23
| Walls code(s): Outside: 9G BR | Inside: BR 9g
| Clues: Clicking the smaller windmill pops up a JS message encoded in
| Navajo, specifically that from the code used in WWII.
| There are five hard-to-see circles just below the windmills; each
| one leads to a smaller popup window, displaying a robotic head, as
| well as displaying mouseover status messages.
>--->The Heads pages (../3/head/[1-5].htm)
| Titles: 1: Piggy Piggy
| 2: We've Got Ventriloquists
| 3: Who Watches the Watchme...
| 4: We Are Connected
| 5: a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy
| Clues: Each of the head pictures is a variant of "David Hanson.jpg",
| and all five pages have "unhssrvelette " (with the space) in the
| source code. This anagrams to 'seventh result', which is the
| appropriate Google result to find the David Hanson who created
| the head.
>--->The Steel Bars page (../3/ever_yo_ne_i_sdead.htm)
| Title: 1 2
| Clues: Upon page load, a JS popup appears that has Navajo text in it.
|
-+->Fourth Light (../4/1129524974645525182.htm) Click the power lines and the
| vehicle in the distance for popup messages, both plaintext &
| Navajo. Unlinked subpages, see Clues.
| Title: THE DEVIL WITH 5 FINGERS
| Page 'number': 999
| Walls code(s): Outside: 4I ST | Inside: 4I ST
| Clues: Several images are named to 'fit' together: 'I', 'am', 'cursed.'
| and 'diablo'.
| Photoshopped text in upper-left sky reads "[The danger] must be
| growing/[For the rowers keep on rowing/And they certianly are not
| showing/any] signs that they [are slowing.]"
| Subpages: ../4/Moluccas.htm, ../4/Sorrows%20of%20Werter.htm, &
| ../4/Plutarch's%20lives.htm
>--->Subpages
| Titles: Moluccas: X, 743-5 (refers to book 10 of Paradise Lost)
| Plutarch's: A life half lived.
| Werter: Distant Mother. Resentful child.
| Clues: Imagenames are related: 'fear', 'love', & 'hate', and 'who',
| 'is', & 'left'
| Mouseover status messages read, variously, "I have no mouth",
| "and I", & "must scream"
| Heavily encoded Navajo code in the source of Moluccas.
| Text in the background images can be strung together to read
| "There's something really abnormal about you, you know."
| The background images themselves can be put together to show a
| figure looking out of a window at a hotel.
|
-+->Fifth Light (../5/three.htm) Click the figure's face, the biohazard symbol,
| and the fist above the figure's head for subpages. Double-click
| the dagger to make it fade. Click 'Ever so peaceably' and the
| figure's chest for popup messages.
| Title: MY EYES ARE BURNING HEL [sic]
| Page 'number': 1107
| Walls code(s): Outside: 4S TC | Inside: 4I ST
| Clues: Several anagrams/Navajo codes/etc. in the popups.
>--->The Fish page (../5/ANOTHERCORPSE.htm) (click the fist-in-a-circle)
| Title: I wouldn't be able to wash it off.
| Clues: "I am a smuts innuendo" in the source code.
| "THE CURSE OF THE MASERATI" in a JS mouseover; "What's Happened
| to me?" in a popup.
>--->Idle Tuesday page (../5/UNREQUITEDLOVE.htm) (click the biohazard sign)
| Title: Cuck-Koo
| Clues: "Did I kill Kiki?" in a popup; the image is 'kiki.jpg'.
>--->The Scepter page (../5/WhereIsGotanda.htm) (click the figure's chest)
| Title: SCEPTER
| Clues: "Thoughtyou'dgetheresooner" as a JS popup.
| Has an animated .gif, of a handprint changing to a hoofprint.
| Click the image to open a sub-subpage.
>------>The Carpace page (../5/Carpace.htm)
| Title: [none]
| Clues: Inverted (white text) ASCII art; an outline of a cockroach.
|
[/code]
SilverPhoenix • May 15, 2005 9:57 am
Part two.

[Code]-+->Sixth Light (../6/FindTheDate.htm) Click the tree for a subpage.
| Title: Sun and Death Travel Together
| Page 'number': 2371
| Walls code(s): Outside: The Walls Are Closing In | Inside: BR 9g
| Clues: passing your mouse over the image changes the season from winter
| to summer and viceversa.
| summer.jpg has "Bad core.", "Coo! Bearded crab", and "Bore cad."
| photoshopped into the sky. These all anagram to 'barcode'.
| Every image 'inside' this light has one or more barcodes embedded
| in it.
| Barcodes decode as:
| "Even the darkness of night was different."
| "What was Paige's number?"
| "crownswordscepterm"
| "I scarcely talk to the cat anymore."
| There's one more barcode that is too blurred to read.
>--->The First House page (5coffinsandoneempty/Vig.htm) Click the right-hand
| window for a subpage.
| Title: A Perfectly Common Accident
| Clues: 'BOX', repeated three times, and 'SHOVEL THAT GOOD SNOW', both
| in the source code.
| "She was married to the Dolphin", in Windows 'Symbol' font,
| embedded in the left-side sky.
| A long string of gibberish in the source code, possibly Vigenere
| code.
| Barcode decodes as "The area had changed Mark"
| 'Sad Lisa' lyrics, by Cat Stevens, popup upon page load.
| The image name, "undevilish net" anagrams to "devil in the sun".
>---> The Closeup House page (5coffinsandoneempty/Near.htm)
| Title: ShovelThatGoodSnow
| Clues: ASCII portrait in the source code, of Blaise Vigenere. See
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaise_de_Vigen%E8re for details
| about the man.
| A very long string of gibberish above the portrait, possibly
| Vigenere code.
| [Ml6 8vk8lzxsv7 6I GDJ y1 FJ,] photoshopped (upside-down and
| backwards) in the window.
| [3sv8v wrw sv w8lk sr7 z2v. 4rtmv8v?] photoshopped into the
| upper-right sky.
| 'Lonesome Suzie' lyrics, by Richard Manuel of The Band, popup
| upon page load.
| mouseover status message "poor chastener", which anagrams to
| "another corpse".
| Barcode decodes to "I was entirely alone in total darkness and
| it was utterly quiet."
|
V
The next page ... ???[/CODE]
crazypeoplethink • May 15, 2005 3:19 pm
Does anyone remember those pages? I know they were posted in here before... that or I'm going crazy XD
SilverPhoenix • May 15, 2005 4:07 pm
They were posted here before; you're not the only one who remembers them. Kris pointed to the first one via his cell-phone message, if I remember right. Given the final answer to the prompt that /4/ was supposed to hold clues to, I'm not sure they were anything but an elaborate red herring.

On the subject of /6/, it's been suggested that things like 'Shovel that good snow' in the source of Vig.htm are pointing back to prior pages as clues. How we're supposed to use them is beyond me, but I figured I'd mention the possibility.
Kagen4o4 • May 15, 2005 9:15 pm
SilverPhoenix wrote:


On the subject of /6/, it's been suggested that things like 'Shovel that good snow' in the source of Vig.htm are pointing back to prior pages as clues. How we're supposed to use them is beyond me, but I figured I'd mention the possibility.


only problem is, "shovel that good snow" comes up everywhere. even page three of /6/ is called shovelthatgoodsnow

i think i may as well just try every major quote in DDD. :worried:
SilverPhoenix • May 16, 2005 10:18 am
Okay, 'Shovel ...' was a poor choice for an example. :D How about... "The area had changed Mark"--it decodes from both one of the barcodes in /6/, and one of the Navajo texts in... umm... /4/, I think? What I meant was, perhaps there's something on /4/ that's meant to help with /6/?

Kagen4o4 wrote:
i think i may as well just try every major quote in DDD.

I think I already have... :greenface
Kagen4o4 • May 17, 2005 1:35 am
SilverPhoenix wrote:


I think I already have... :greenface


ah ha! but have you tried it in six different languages both forward and backwards and jumbled order based on both size and frequency of the word??
cause that would be great if you could, i cant be bothered :headshake

ok does anyone know who paige is? what axe is being talked about in regards to vigenere? if you are thinking of looking up "the date" of when cat stevens or manuel droped their guitar (axe) ive already done that and gotten nowhere
SilverPhoenix • May 17, 2005 7:02 am
'Paige' could be Satchel Paige; his most-used major-league number was 29.

the 'dropped axe' could refer to Eric Clapton, on stage with The Band when they recorded The Last Waltz; he dropped his guitar (the strap slipped) during his opening guitar solo of 'Further Up The Road'; Robbie Robertson had to step in on the spur of the moment. Recorded Thanksgiving, 1976, at San Francisco's Winterland Ballroom, and released April 26, 1978.

Both of these are, I'll be first to admit, definitely shots in the dark. But they fit, especially Satchel Paige.
SilverPhoenix • May 17, 2005 7:03 am
Kagen4o4 wrote:
ah ha! but have you tried it in six different languages both forward and backwards and jumbled order based on both size and frequency of the word??


Yeah, why? :p
Soup • May 18, 2005 4:33 pm
I am sorry to interrupt, but as an outsider, reading through the 48 pages of posts gives the feeling of sitting in a sidecar on a very interesting journey. One quick question, a 74 year old retired army colonel and a countdown date of June 6th (DDay anniversary), is there a link? Thanks.
CidHighwind • May 18, 2005 6:55 pm
Another outsider. Ive been keeping up with thisisnotporn and this site as best I can, because it really interests me. You guys are also the leading edge in solving this puzzle.

I havent been able to figure out many of the later pages alone, but I have not read DDD, so it doesnt help. However, should any obscure references appear that I understand, I'd be glad to help.

Now, for a question. Is thisisnotporn being adding new pages every so often, or are people figuring out puzzles and finding new pages?

Also, june 6th is getting very close... whats gonna happen?

And a copuple observations Ive made about the second "Asia awaits" page:
1. "Asia Awaits" probably refers to the japanese books necessary to solve the puzzles
2. The binary in the .gif spells out "075 078 079 084" and that is ASCII for "KNOT"

Too late now, but at least I found _something_
Kagen4o4 • May 18, 2005 7:37 pm
CidHighwind wrote:
And a copuple observations Ive made about the second "Asia awaits" page:
1. "Asia Awaits" probably refers to the japanese books necessary to solve the puzzles

it actually refers to the gateway to asia that alexander had after cutting the knot or something like that.
im thinking after the end of the sixth light we wont have anymore DDD references.

they only started when you "enter" the hotel dolphin on the 5th page.
theres a lot of reference to 6 here as well. the 6th page having 6 lights, 6 skeletons, 6th of the sixth. devil (666?) in the sun.

maybe TINP is the spawn of satan? and the 6/6 is armegedon?
i hope so cause im bored as hell (no pun intended)
CidHighwind • May 18, 2005 7:49 pm
Okay, but one thing I dont understand: The lights page has 7 lights... And maybe my memory is bad, but I thought that less than 6 worked some time ago.
atari • May 18, 2005 9:28 pm
One light isn't a link. Yet, anyways...

DUN DUN DUUUUN!
Soup • May 18, 2005 10:19 pm
Interesting, I will be glad to help out as best I can as well.
SilverPhoenix • May 19, 2005 8:04 pm
The very bottom light has never been a link, theoretically because it's mushed into the one above it.

And yes, Cid, the lights have been "turning on" as we get further along. (it started out as only one light visible, then became two once we'd solved the prompt to enter the first one, and so on. It's only been since 3 that all the lights were visible, and only since 4 that they were all links.)
XRedBlazeX • May 20, 2005 5:28 pm
June 6th is the Swedish Flag Day. Which you ALL should celebrate!
crazypeoplethink • May 20, 2005 7:54 pm
June 6th is also D-Day
EliteAssasin • May 20, 2005 8:59 pm
Maybe June 6 IS THE day that he updates the last light into making it a inactive link to a active link and then after that.the next scene will be the streets an cars and rain.also i think this might eb a clue to something ok on TINP.COM/FORUMS.PHP well ok the TINP forums when your not signed in it has a word in the password box,i tried to copy and paste but that word deisappeares
Kagen4o4 • May 20, 2005 10:32 pm
figured out the secret forum pw yet elite?
atari • May 20, 2005 10:33 pm
It says "password" in the PW box. Notice how it says "Username" in the UN one?


In other news, June 6 is exactly two weeks before my birthday! :D
EliteAssasin • May 21, 2005 12:34 pm
I HAVNT FIGURED OUT THE PASSWORD! IT GET ME SOO MAD :rar:
EliteAssasin • May 21, 2005 12:35 pm
Also June 6 could meana other video or something,or just his birthday or the day he gives us all these hints and things we've missed
Kagen4o4 • May 21, 2005 8:03 pm
EliteAssasin wrote:
I HAVNT FIGURED OUT THE PASSWORD! IT GET ME SOO MAD :rar:


once you get it you'll be kicking yourself. the clues ive given you practically spell it out. ill give you another clue






































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gimp • May 22, 2005 4:34 am
No-one can hear Kagen4o4 scream...

Anyway, i last read this thread last year. Then i went to the TINP forums, and then i stopped solving.

Now? I've fallen behind by two passwords.

So hey. I figured id finally sign up.

--Edit-- I've been reading since page 10 it appears.
XRedBlazeX • May 24, 2005 10:40 pm
For those of you who haven't figured it out yet and aren't up for the challenge, I'll probably post the username/password sometime within a week or two since all the others can already be found here.
Kagen4o4 • May 24, 2005 10:51 pm
dont post the un or pw. just post REALLY EASY clues.
ie: click asia awaits
un=Guy who cut it
pw=name of what was cut

timeflows.htm --> new name of Zuiderzee.htm

etc

that way some sort of minimal research is required but it will give people an idea of where the un and pw came from.
or if they want all the un's and pw's up until this point they can read through the last 48 pages to find the exact ones and still know where they came from.
Kagen4o4 • May 25, 2005 3:14 am
i know Deius Infectus posted a program to help decode barcodes on TINP forum. but i thought a program that encodes them might help too, that way you can look at the fuzzy one and kinda try and make out what it could be.

try this program http://www.download2you.com/details_page.asp?titleID=6692

just get a crack for it, easy to find

in "code type" use "code 128" for letters (btw, capitals are different from lowercase too)

heres what ive got so far
Another Corpse.....
as you can see here:
Image
Kagen4o4 • May 29, 2005 6:59 am
more info about the barcode. "Another corpse does" is the latest find, im still working on the rest....
jbot • May 29, 2005 11:37 pm
good work Kagen404
Kagen4o4 • May 31, 2005 11:32 pm
"Another corpse does a " (there is a space after the "a") the next letter is really getting to me. none of the capital or lower case letters seem to fit
http://www.imagehosting.us/imagehosting/showimg.jpg/?id=499352

such sloooow going
atari • Jun 2, 2005 9:00 pm
Maybe it's a symbol?
Kagen4o4 • Jun 3, 2005 2:49 am
nope, nor is it numbers. well, nothing i can find yet. im going to have to try combinations now which if you can imagine all those little pictures on your keyboard. theres quite a few combinations. close to the order of 100! (and for those of you that dont know maths, the "!" symbol means that its 100x99x98x97x96x...x2x1) combinations
SilverPhoenix • Jun 3, 2005 9:56 am
edited: Never mind. Apparently I was miscounting.
Kagen4o4 • Jun 3, 2005 10:01 am
which character?
"\" is close to "m" but the first part of "m" is thicker.
is that the one you were talking about?

oh yeah and 50 pages....not bad
SilverPhoenix • Jun 3, 2005 10:09 am
oh. to clarify: I'm using that barcode accessories program that someone found way back at the beginning of the tinp-forum thread; it can output barcodes too, and the default settings are prefectly sized to match up to the fuzzy barcode with no resizing.
XRedBlazeX • Jun 5, 2005 11:00 pm
June 6th (the date the countdown is going to) is tomorrow!
jbot • Jun 6, 2005 3:05 am
we have around 9+ hours until June 6th 11:38 .a.m.
Kagen4o4 • Jun 6, 2005 3:50 am
oh yeah i forgot about that.
its already 6/6 in australia
zomg a chixX0r • Jun 6, 2005 5:56 am
Is it at all possible if one of you could IM me and tell me what has happened, and what the countdown was all about? I will most likely sleep til 1PM. :/

I would be very grateful!

AIM = seraph serenades

Thank you!
lol • Jun 6, 2005 3:26 pm
it is 6/6 in the eastcoast
crazypeoplethink • Jun 6, 2005 7:06 pm
Wait what is so important about today
crazypeoplethink • Jun 6, 2005 7:24 pm
I'm not sure if anyone's made this link, but here it goes
on the page of the close up of the house the lryics that pop up are by a band called Blood Sweat and Tears. Winston Churchill made a speech using that phrase. And Churchill was involved in D-Day. Which is today.
atari • Jun 7, 2005 1:22 am
Eddish, it's actually by The Band, and it's called "Lonesome Suzie". And the other song is "Sad Lisa" by Cat Stevens.
atari • Jun 7, 2005 1:23 am
And the countdown on The Boy (HELP I AM DROWNING) was counting down to today. I believe. I wouldn't know, I'm just a Mac user. =P
crazypeoplethink • Jun 7, 2005 2:19 pm
'tari there was another band who did that song too... that's the one I'm refering to.
Kagen4o4 • Jun 7, 2005 5:56 pm
there were a few bands that did that song.
Xerits • Jun 11, 2005 6:37 pm
:D See the: http://web.archive.org/web/20041031143245/www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/View+topic.htm
~> I don't speak english very good. :question: sorry no help plus!?!? :question:

~>http://web.archive.org/web/20041031143245/www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/View+topic.htm
Kagen4o4 • Jun 11, 2005 10:56 pm
wtf mate?
zomg a chixX0r • Jun 14, 2005 8:07 am
Do you think it was counting down to 06-06-06?

I didn't see it but. :(
xmortalityx • Jun 16, 2005 12:11 am
I may be a newbie here... but ive been working on TINP for about a week and have gotten past most of it. But there is just one problem: I cant get past the damn "Audition, Death of A Travelling Salesman". Ive looked up the book Metamorphosis, and I saw the Author of Audition, but I still cant seem to get it!

Besides, you guys have made me want to read Dance Dance Dance really badly. Whos it by again?
crazypeoplethink • Jun 16, 2005 2:37 pm
It's by Haruki Murakami... and you should read it. It's rather helpful.
lust • Jun 16, 2005 10:49 pm
all i need is "Frankenstein now, Where does he stand in the darkness of Paradise?"
xmortalityx • Jun 17, 2005 7:24 pm
Update: On the second page, if you click anywhere a popup comes up and tells you the date, time, and year, and it says something in what looks like german: De jongen zal alleen sterven
wolf • Jun 18, 2005 2:59 am
Dutch.

Without a translator ... The boys all die alone

babel fish says ... the boy will only die
SidelineWarrior • Jun 18, 2005 3:08 pm
i found something kinda interesting

ever since nothing happened on June 6th, i've been trying to find something else to go off of. I've been looking around in the TINP forum, and for a while i've noticed the different avatars in there, the ones that say things like "Dead hobos can kill again" and "Pacman lives inside me". and i always thought they were kinda strange. then i thought maybe they were anagrams. at first this search turned up with nothing (probably because i decided to start with the longest one first). then i decided to try an easy one. the "Love Hate" avatar. Love Hate anagrams to Eve Loath. I googled it and lo and behold, the whole first page is nothing but John Milton: Paradise Lost (if you don't remember, that was hinted at on the Moluccas page)



it may just be a coincidence, but if it is, it's one hell of a coincidence.


anyways i just wanted to put out the idea of searching some of those for anagrams
WillGtl • Jun 23, 2005 6:23 am
Damn, you guys beat us by a long shot... We at BH and many other forums have only gotten so far. Though with Kriss constantly updating ThisIsNotPorn, it's getting very hard to keep up with him, especially with all the password changes.

I have been trying to solve the riddle for many a months now, about 7 months, or so.

All I have to say is good luck, and keep up the good work, you are getting there.

And if this is any help, if the rumor is true, and Kriss was in the war at Normandy, than June 6th is a relative date. June 6th is the D-Day anniversary, maybe something happened to him on that day.

Good job figuring out he was using Navajo, we figured that one out a long time ago.

And the pages make referrence to more than Dance, Dance, Dance, and Lost in Paradise :) ...

There are still a few passwords you have to figure out, I tried Victor Frankenstein and Frank Frankenstein for "Frankenstein now, Yuki's Bird.", but no go... I would make sense, considering in Dance, Dance, Dance, Yuki was said to be a bird, and Yuki Gotanda was used in "DorothyAndTheScarecrow"... Also the fact that is says "Frankenstein now,...", as in Frankenstein is the clue for the un/pw. I am completely stumped on "Audition, death of a traveling salesman.".

And to let you all now, this was not made up by some regular guy, he is affiliated with the makers of Halo 2, the place everybody got this from, was the end of the Halo 2 trailer. There is no publicly know available phone number to contact Kriss, just him email address.

And one more thing, where did everybody get Gordian Knot from, for "Master and Betrayer.", the poem referres to Alexander the Great, any of this ring a bell? "An oracle predicted me,", Alexander the Great was predicted by an oracle. Alexanders full name is Alexander Gordian. A lot of people came up with Gordian Knot for some reason...

I have contacted Kriss asking if his riddle is solveable at the moment, or if it is a work in progress, since it keeps leading us in circles, unless we missed a huge hint. And if he is going to do anymore, once this one is solved. Only been about 5 hours since I emailed him, no reply yet.

So I give you all the best of luck, and I will be popping in and out every once in a while, to see your progress. And add anything that you guys have missed, that we have solved.
Duey Oxburger • Jun 23, 2005 8:26 am
Hi Will, nice to have you here. Regarding us not knowing any passwords, I believe we have solved all of the known passwords. I know every light password from /1/ to /6/. Maybe the Cellar didnt solve it, but the Official TINP forums might have. http://www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/index.php?
crazypeoplethink • Jun 23, 2005 3:01 pm
Just a quick little thing this thread was made over a year ago.
I personally have been working on this for about nine months, I think almost ten.
Anywhooo, I don't remember how I got the Frakenstein one but would you like the UN/PW combo?
WillGtl • Jun 23, 2005 5:54 pm
Yes I would like to know the usn/pw for the Frankenstein prompt, thank you.
Kagen4o4 • Jun 23, 2005 7:55 pm
"Master and Betrayer" isnt alexander gordian.
"HeWhoRulesByTheSword" is. and in the code it says "alexander cut me" being the gordian knot.

but yes we are up to solving (inside) the sixth light

usn/pw or franky is un: Prometheus pw: Paradise

its already been mentioned in the cellar somewhere. the only one that hasnt is the latest password but it pretty much has without coming right out and saying it
Floatyhead • Jun 23, 2005 8:03 pm
So nobody here knows the UN/PW for Audition or the significance of June 6 and it's countdown yet?

Oh, and yes, I'm new here, though I've read every page and am stuck at the Audition, Death of a Travelling Salesman prompt. And I got into the Terrible Secret. It made my eyes burn.
xmortalityx • Jun 24, 2005 3:32 am
Ive been trying to figure out the "Audition, Death of a Travelling Salesman" prompt for a while too. Seems like we're both stuck on it. But as previously mentioned, Xaero gives the exact info for the username and the password. Author_Travelling Salesman.
Floatyhead • Jun 24, 2005 4:19 pm
Wait, someone's giving out the UN/PW for the page nobody here has got into? I really don't know what it could be, it's the only one left...
crazypeoplethink • Jun 24, 2005 5:18 pm
We've gotten to the Audition page... and a bit past it.
If your really really stuck and need help pm me or im me on AIM, my sn on there is sugarhighslacker
xmortalityx • Jun 25, 2005 2:23 am
Only one problem... I dont have AIM...
Kagen4o4 • Jun 25, 2005 3:13 am
us on the TINP forum are now discussing the clues given inside the sixth light as we have solved the audition TS prompt. as crazy said the format for the unpw is just about as obvious as possible given the rest of the information on this forum. i think its the only one that ISNT mentioned on this forum too.

june 6 was a big let down
crazypeoplethink • Jun 25, 2005 3:34 pm
than pm me mortality
kagen we're stuck at two pages after the audition right?
Kagen4o4 • Jun 25, 2005 7:50 pm
we're stuck on the section that the audition unpw leads to. one word in a barcode to solve and some other codes which are most likely vigenere.
lust • Jun 29, 2005 11:24 pm
The only one left is the Frankenstein one.

===PASSWORDS===
Ident:HeWhoRulesByTheSword
Name:Alexander
Password:Gordian

Ident:WhatALovelyDrapeTheyMake
Name:Edith
Password:Head

Ident:Dorothy and Scarecrow
Name:Yuki
Password:Gotanda

Ident:MasterAndBetrayer
Name:Xerxes
Password:Demaratus

Ident:CuriosityKilledTheCat
Name:Kipper
Password:May

Ident:FACE0F, What darkness do we live
Name:ADEADBABE
Password:Alone

Ident: Frankenstein now, Where does he stand in the darkness of Paradise?
Name:
Password:

Ident:2 Fathoms deep
Name:Mark
Password:Twain

===FORUMS===
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/index.htm

'Mark Twain' was a frequent call of the leadsman.
It meant that the water was 2 fathoms (12 feet) deep and indicated safe water.

click profile, then click the avatar. use '2 Fathoms deep' to get into the REAL forums.

===PAGE 1: THE OVEN===
http://www.thisisnotporn.com
click the oven

===PAGE 1.5: IM DROWNING===
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/TheBoy.htm
the popup accompany.

===PAGE 2: ASIA AWAITS===
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/not/not.htm

ASCII art spells out a poem:

Alexander cut me,
An oracle predicted me,
A future king untied me,
say my name to clear my path

This refers to the Gordian Knot.

Click ASIA AWAITS and use HeWhoRulesByTheSword

===PAGE 3: THE TRUCK===
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/see/TimeFlows.htm

Patients.......
On the Zuiderzee
That old fishing sea,
The Fairies stole,
The boys of Marken

The old name of the site of the boy's disappearance is the name of the place you must go.

hebban olla vogala nestas hagunnan
hinase hi© (e)nda thu
uu(at) unbida(n) (uu)e nu

Zuiderzee once was named IJsselmeer

Use IJsselmeer.htm

===PAGE 4: THE TREE===
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/see/IJsselmeer.htm

Zoom in on the tree, it says Edith Head. see Edith.bmp

Cick the tree, use WhatALovelyDrapeTheyMake

===PAGE 5: THE BUILDING===
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/Aquatic.htm

click the bottom floor.

===PAGE 6: THE LIGHTS===
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/SM.htm
the four use various passwords. they start from the bottom

1.the truck's front: CuriosityKilledTheCat
In the page with the wall, "translate" the line of numbers in the source code to get "what comes after we tire of chasing wild sheep?", A wild sheep chase is a book, and together with "Dance, Dance, Dance" (From where the "you know where to find us" thing came out) from the same author, seem to be important in the page.
So, in one of the books, a cat named Kipper died in May.
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/1/1.htm

2.the tree: MasterAndBetrayer
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/2/toto.htm

3.the windmill: Dorothy and Scarecrow
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkn...reConnected.htm

4.the truck's back. FACE0F, What darkness do we live
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkn...74645525182.htm

5.Frankenstein now, Where does he stand in the darkness of Paradise?
(nothing known about this page so far)

===SIDEPAGES===
1.
(none so far)
2.
click the date:
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkn..._ne_i_sdead.htm
below the 2nd windmill
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/3/head/3.htm
3.
left eye
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/2/left.htm
right eye
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/2/right.htm
4.
the license plate
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkn...mPerforatum.htm
Floatyhead • Jun 29, 2005 11:43 pm
What about "Frankenstein now, Yuki's Bird"? You all know that one, right?

Where's the "2 Fathoms" one?

Err.... and where's the unknown Frankenstein one?
SilverPhoenix • Jun 30, 2005 1:14 am
"2 Fathoms" is the fake forums, used for a while to help keep new forum traffic to a minimum. Don't worry too much about it, unless you want to see several Samuel Clemens quotes.

As far as I know, everyone who's been following this thread along for more than a month or so knows all current passwords, including Frankenstein now/Yuki's Bird (which is the unknown Frankenstein one). The 'site map' two posts above me, while it includes passwords, is out of date by two 'lights' pages. Check the bottom of page 47 and the top of 48 for a more recent map (though mine doesn't include un/pw's).

Kagen, any more luck with that barcode? I've been trying to go the other direction: rather than find one letter at a time, I've been trying to find a word that will fit ("does a Vigenere", "does a suicide", etc.)
Kagen4o4 • Jun 30, 2005 9:47 pm
no luck as of yet. im probably wrong but it looks like there might be a double letter in the word. this is only a guess so dont base your whole train of thought around this
Floatyhead • Jun 30, 2005 9:48 pm
Alright. Does anyone know what the writing in the window of ShovelThatGoodSnow says?
And who is that in the page source and what does it say above him? Try highlighting the portrait, by the way.
SilverPhoenix • Jul 1, 2005 11:30 pm
Floatyhead wrote:
Alright. Does anyone know what the writing in the window of ShovelThatGoodSnow says?
And who is that in the page source and what does it say above him? Try highlighting the portrait, by the way.


The portrait is of Blaise de Vigenère, and originally from this Wikipedia article. The line of text above him is encoded, most likely in a Vigenère code (info on this is at the same link).

The text in the window says "Ml6 8vk8lzxsv7 6l GDJ yl FJ," and translates to "Not reproaches to 639 by 59." 'Not reproaches', we've found, anagrams to 'Another corpse'; what the 'to 639 by 59' means is still up for guesses. A suggested possibility is that it's a coordinate spot on an image; someone else found it in Google describing the max size of several forums' sig images.
r2-at-fsu • Jul 2, 2005 2:47 pm
Anyone at the Robert Silvers# page yet
what do you do here
Kagen4o4 • Jul 2, 2005 7:35 pm
there are a few pages linked to circles in the middle of the page, this section gives hints to the frankenstein now prompt
Tyrael • Jul 3, 2005 1:20 am
Someone toss me something on that 6th light... I'm not much for noting the obvious. This has been driving me nuts since October...
Tyrael • Jul 3, 2005 1:45 am
Tyrael wrote:
Someone toss me something on that 6th light... I'm not much for noting the obvious. This has been driving me nuts since October...

Nevermind... boy do I feel sheepish... Of all the stupid reasons NOT to get in... I HAD IT!!! I FREAKING HAD IT!!! AND THAT ONE LITTLE STUPID DETAIL!!! AAAAAARGH!
Kagen4o4 • Jul 3, 2005 7:02 pm
lol
underscore?
Floatyhead • Jul 4, 2005 10:32 pm
Is there anything at the moment that's significant about the HypericumPerforatum page?
crazypeoplethink • Jul 5, 2005 2:36 pm
I think we kinda gave up on that, there's a few pages after it though
lust • Jul 5, 2005 5:46 pm
does anyone acually kno the end of the passwords or wat the end is???
Kagen4o4 • Jul 5, 2005 7:29 pm
no, no one affiliated with the official forum knows. unless someone working alone just went through and got it all then no.
Magius • Jul 5, 2005 9:45 pm
I doubt that. TINP didn't even finish building it, unless it has been done recently.
XRedBlazeX • Jul 6, 2005 7:32 pm
lust wrote:
does anyone acually kno the end of the passwords or wat the end is???
The maker of TINP, while watching us get past the final light, said only something along the lines of: 'I've got a really great ending planned out.'
Floatyhead • Jul 7, 2005 6:40 pm
I was talking to Kris through email a while ago and he sent me a strange picture of someone behind an Egyptian pharoah masy, and there were strange swirling lights around him, but my stupid accout purged and deleted it.

Any new breakthroughs yet, anyone?
sjzboy • Jul 8, 2005 3:17 pm
could u please try to solve this? It is not all tect..there a phrase arround there ...

11201221018120181202135120312016102301302131320312013203103120133122
1202022011123032000214912891230321243250321152149123123211321222100
20013012130918213021642031201921302312910281017121016271021302132777
11311710110903210810111403210511511611103210010510397032121111111111
21202320022000002313032103210321379819877981215646511231098021200032
20101301012031109212910310391820132091820190219301982019010101232113
03120198011303102312123021312012198010210219898010121213201301323128
97889123120121071887190190910112130231201320121789101192988888888882
30231291826576010264546057610182912809132312094498249280942492840992
30910185970421904719729725470918570912919741091740179210125112312312
22130121021321303112019821972190120120129101920198209172019820912120
12012019290319320129172908123012012012071923192012010212031237103202
Kagen4o4 • Jul 8, 2005 7:12 pm
wheres it from? and no
discordant_harmony • Jul 12, 2005 9:03 pm
Ok, ok, let's get over the whole "newbie" thing right now. I've gotten as far as y'all, to the ShovelThatGoodSnow page and I've read since page one.

First of all, does anyone know if there is an online version of DDD? And should I read WSC first?

It seems like we have given up on decoding the two strings of text. Does anyone have any fresh ideas for keys?
FallORFly • Jul 13, 2005 12:33 am
I have figured out all the lights, pm or email me for the hints, CHECK OUT MY NEW TINP MOCK UP SITE!!! www.freewebs.com/Elddir !
FallORFly • Jul 13, 2005 12:56 am
seems like my site is picky, the url is www.freewebs.com/elddir just check it out, i think you will be impressed...
discordant_harmony • Jul 13, 2005 3:55 am
Yeah, we on here have through all 6 lights, and are trying to figure out how to go to the next page, since it is not a un/pw one. We (or I should say they) are decoding the barcodes and the strings of letters.

And I tried your site, I got to the second page so far...

Edit: i've now gotten to the next one....it's a nice asuurance that i CAN do some of these things...
Duey Oxburger • Jul 14, 2005 7:44 am
discordant_harmony wrote:
Ok, ok, let's get over the whole "newbie" thing right now. I've gotten as far as y'all, to the ShovelThatGoodSnow page and I've read since page one.

First of all, does anyone know if there is an online version of DDD? And should I read WSC first?

It seems like we have given up on decoding the two strings of text. Does anyone have any fresh ideas for keys?

You don't need to read WSC first. I read DDD first, then WSC; order doesnt matter (and it doesn't matter if you read WSC). Here is DDD online
I have given up on keys. I tried guessing all the obvious ones, but it became too frustrating due to lack of clues.
FallORFly • Jul 14, 2005 11:53 am
discordant_harmony wrote:
Yeah, we on here have through all 6 lights, and are trying to figure out how to go to the next page, since it is not a un/pw one. We (or I should say they) are decoding the barcodes and the strings of letters.

And I tried your site, I got to the second page so far...

Edit: i've now gotten to the next one....it's a nice asuurance that i CAN do some of these things...



Thanks, I'm trying to give people more ideas and exprience so that they will think more openly on TINP.com . Tell your friends...
discordant_harmony • Jul 14, 2005 4:09 pm
Thanks Duey

I'm sure that the key is very obvious, but we aren't thinking simply enough, we are trying to make it too complicated...

On the very opening page (with the oven, Something is Coming), the status bar says Cut and Cut and Cut, I don't remember that ever coming up in anything. Did it?

Also, isn't dropping your axe a euphamism for dying? Richard Manuel hanged himself in a motel room in Winter Park, Florida...Vigenere died of throat cancer. Does anyone know where he is buried?
Kagen4o4 • Jul 14, 2005 9:32 pm
discordant_harmony wrote:
Thanks Duey

I'm sure that the key is very obvious, but we aren't thinking simply enough, we are trying to make it too complicated...

On the very opening page (with the oven, Something is Coming), the status bar says Cut and Cut and Cut, I don't remember that ever coming up in anything. Did it?

Also, isn't dropping your axe a euphamism for dying? Richard Manuel hanged himself in a motel room in Winter Park, Florida...Vigenere died of throat cancer. Does anyone know where he is buried?


cut and cut and cut was a clue for the gordian knot i thought.

i tried "winter park" and "florida" as a key and no luck
discordant_harmony • Jul 14, 2005 11:23 pm
Oops, I forgot about that...

dang it, I thought I was onto something there....where is Vigenere buried?

Edit: IDEA! Since each of the lights seem to represent a death in DDD and the 6th is the empty coffin, the protagonist's, where did he die? Or did he? I haven't finished yet.

Also, I find it interesting that on TINP, Vigenere is spelled w/o the e after the g. Random thing, but I might as well say it.
Hajik • Jul 15, 2005 12:48 am
I doubt anyone would do this for me, but it would be supremely awesome if someone could just PM me with a quick run down on what's happening. TINP interests me a lot and I'd like to help you all on whatever needs to be done.
crazypeoplethink • Jul 15, 2005 2:15 pm
discordant_harmony where did you get those names?
SilverPhoenix • Jul 15, 2005 9:01 pm
crazypeoplethink wrote:
discordant_harmony where did you get those names?


Richard Manuel was with The Band, and sang (perhaps also wrote? can't recall and can't be arsed to look it up at the moment) one of the songs whose lyrics appear in a Javascript popup on Vig.htm and Near.htm.

Vigenere is the name of the man whose portrait appears in the source code of Near.htm; he's commonly attributed with creating poly-alphabetic ciphers. He didn't; rather, he created a new, nearly unbreakable version of them (see Wikipedia for more). Chances are that the strings of gibberish in the source code of the /6/*.htm pages are encoded with a Vigenere-style key.
Kagen4o4 • Jul 15, 2005 10:41 pm
richard manuel wrote lonesome suzie and is in "The Band"
xmortalityx • Jul 16, 2005 5:24 am
After finally getting the un/pw to Audition, Ive noticed that after you click on the tree, and then the window in the house, that the words in the top right corner read "3sv8v wtw sv w8lk sr7 z2v. 4rumv8v"
Duey Oxburger • Jul 16, 2005 8:21 am
xmortalityx wrote:
After finally getting the un/pw to Audition, Ive noticed that after you click on the tree, and then the window in the house, that the words in the top right corner read "3sv8v wtw sv w8lk sr7 z2v. 4rumv8v"
Yes, We have already decoded that.
Here is the code if you want to figure it out yourself :
ABCDEFGHIJklm <--- this line corresponds to both of those below
zyxwvutsrqpon <--- this line corresponds to the letters above or numbers below it
0123456789 <------ this line decrypts as the lower-case letters, and encrypts as the capitalized ones.






Or heres the answer (highlight it):[COLOR=White] Where did he drop his axe, Vignere?[/COLOR]
discordant_harmony • Jul 16, 2005 9:50 pm
That missing e is still bugging me....I went back and looked. There is also that extra m in a barcode. Are there any more things like that?
SilverPhoenix • Jul 16, 2005 11:36 pm
Quite a fw. MMost of them are simple typos; I'm not sure we've found any that are more than that, but there might be a couple that were significant and we didn't notice at the time.
Hajik • Jul 18, 2005 2:15 am
http://www.unfiction.com/dev/tutorial/
http://www.unfiction.com/resource/otools/

Too awesome links with a bunch of decrytping junk on them, I hope it helps some.
SilverPhoenix • Jul 18, 2005 12:53 pm
The fuzzy barcode has been figured out (at last :). It reads "Another corpse does a 350-40." and is here: http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=finaldecode9ay.gif if you'd like to see for yourself.

So. We have "[does a] 350-40", and "to 639 by 59". 'Another corpse', interestingly, only appears in Dance at the beginning of chapter 40 (though it's page 360, rather than 350).
Stuckey • Jul 22, 2005 1:53 am
are you guys still talking about thisisnotporn.com?

if you are, then could you help me with the sign on the tree?

whatalovelydrapetheymake
xmortalityx • Jul 22, 2005 2:00 am
if you read back through the pages (like most of us did), you cold probably find most of the answers
Stuckey • Jul 22, 2005 2:05 am
...there are 55 pages....but ok


although, from reading the first few pages, someone said that they got by this one fairly quickly
wolf • Jul 22, 2005 2:22 am
Stuckey wrote:
...there are 55 pages....but ok


So what you are saying is that you're actually too lazy to cheat.
Stuckey • Jul 22, 2005 2:32 am
well, i got the sign one, and then the building one was incredibly easy, but this new one looks hard
EliteAssasin • Jul 22, 2005 1:39 pm
my account for the TINP Forums got suspended for 4 days,so hello you guys
elGatorade • Jul 22, 2005 7:49 pm
I found this puzzle the other day via this http://www.thisisnotporn.com/ad.jpg but I also have met Boruff before, as that is my girlfriend in the picture. I can't figure anything out. So I guess meeting has really put me at an advantage. I mean in terms of figuring out the puzzle, no offence to Boruff.
XRedBlazeX • Jul 22, 2005 9:03 pm
elGatorade wrote:
I found this puzzle the other day via this http://www.thisisnotporn.com/ad.jpg but I also have met Boruff before, as that is my girlfriend in the picture. I can't figure anything out. So I guess meeting has really put me at an advantage. I mean in terms of figuring out the puzzle, no offence to Boruff.
Heh, somebody either at the official forums or here mentioned seeing your girlfriend (on campus maybe?) and recognizing her from the t-shirt ad picture, but he didn't ask her about it.

EliteAssasin wrote:
my account for the TINP Forums got suspended for 4 days,so hello you guys
Haha, why was that?

Stuckey wrote:
well, i got the sign one, and then the building one was incredibly easy, but this new one looks hard
Which one are you on now?
XRedBlazeX • Jul 22, 2005 11:50 pm
discordant_harmony wrote:
Edit: IDEA! Since each of the lights seem to represent a death in DDD and the 6th is the empty coffin, the protagonist's, where did he die? Or did he? I haven't finished yet.
I have a feeling we're not trying to get past the 6th light, but rather, we're trying to get past the lights page as a whole. We just needed to unlock each of the lights to gain enough clues... This is a theory anyway. There's probably some all-encompasing theme within each of these pages, and we have to find it.
Hajik • Jul 23, 2005 12:58 am
XRedBlazeX wrote:
I have a feeling we're not trying to get past the 6th light, but rather, we're trying to get past the lights page as a whole. We just needed to unlock each of the lights to gain enough clues... This is a theory anyway. There's probably some all-encompasing theme within each of these pages, and we have to find it.


He brings up a good idea. Maybe the sixth light isn't just another light like the last ones. But it's a link to the next area of sorts. So maybe thinking in this kind of mindset will help us to get past it.
discordant_harmony • Jul 23, 2005 1:47 am
Yeah, it seems that the next page is like the IJsselmeer one, where we have to type in a url, maybe the lights don't really have an order, or at least as much emphasis as we are putting on it.

As I asked before, is dropping your axe a euphemism for dying?
Hajik • Jul 23, 2005 3:11 am
As far as dropping the axe thing. I'd use it as that. I've also heard it mean "playing a guitar solo" and some other things. I hope that helps.
Kagen4o4 • Jul 23, 2005 4:28 am
common themes
-light-darkness
-walls closing in
-DDD (only for the lights pages so far, and the entry into the "dolphin hotel")

DDD includes, death, skeletons etc.

there have been other things in there like frankenstein, wizard of oz and metamorphosis etc
EliteAssasin • Jul 23, 2005 12:22 pm
The 6th Light could be activated when people solve the meaning behind all the lights,so maybe after we figure out the Sun and Death Travel Togther,TINP Will activate the last light.

Damn i need some coffee :coffee:
xmortalityx • Jul 25, 2005 11:54 am
Maybe, and I'm just going in a whim here, but arent there a couple of links missing letters or have them replaced by a number? (My Eyes Are Burning Hel, A Moth Flew Into The Room When I Di4d) What if we put all the missing or replaced letters together and then put that as a link? That was just an idea i got from reading your ideas
crazypeoplethink • Jul 25, 2005 3:11 pm
That's possible, but for the "My eyes are burning Hel' Hel is a mythological character. Norse Mythology I believe.
XRedBlazeX • Jul 25, 2005 4:30 pm
Yes, Hel is the goddess or something or other... I don't think we ever decided whether or not it was Hel or hell though.
EliteAssasin • Jul 25, 2005 6:28 pm
but what do all our ideas have in common?
what do we use to try and solve this?
maybe if we find the common idea or something,we can a clearer image of how to solve it.

Just a little theory that came out of my ass:P
Hajik • Jul 25, 2005 11:42 pm
I think the first thing we could do is compile a list of little things like that, and see what common ideas run through it.
xmortalityx • Jul 26, 2005 1:45 am
it could also be Help

On Another note, I looked up the source on The "A Perfectly Common Accident." page and I found this mummble-Jumble: aadbre odndl Ihxbit ntwl ehte seh nhtw ntthnn wrewpcthl n tctap slnnb heed te letw ntttodpt
Kagen4o4 • Jul 26, 2005 6:40 am
this has all been found
xmortalityx • Jul 26, 2005 2:42 pm
Damn. I should really start backtracking to see what has been found -_-
EliteAssasin • Jul 26, 2005 6:14 pm
Hajik wrote:
I think the first thing we could do is compile a list of little things like that, and see what common ideas run through it.



Well ok whos gonna make the list :question:

Not Me :headshake
Kagen4o4 • Jul 26, 2005 9:53 pm
havent a few already been made? or were they just site maps?
crazypeoplethink • Jul 27, 2005 5:49 pm
they were just site maps, as far as I know.
EliteAssasin • Jul 29, 2005 1:10 pm
DavidM thinks Notpr0n brings people togther

WTF

it brings like hackers and jerks togther and then they post all the answers all over the internet like it was Butter.

then "Loyal" PLayers,no such thing any more,they slip answers to people sometimes
marichiko • Jul 29, 2005 10:32 pm
So, how'd you guys end up discussing all this stuff on the Cellar, anyhow? Do you do anything besides try to solve the game? Do you ever read any of the other forums here? Do you feel wierd being this sort of little sub-cult here that regular members of the cellar hardly ever talk to? How come you don't create your very own seperate "This is not porn" discussion site?

Just wondering, and no I don't have a clue. :confused:
Kagen4o4 • Jul 29, 2005 11:54 pm
i dont even use or know of any other topics in the cellar. i just use it for TINP, this and the official forum are really the only 2 worth looking at on the subject. if you google most things from TINP you get a link to this thread. theres something like 1100 posts on this now?
marichiko • Jul 29, 2005 11:58 pm
Kagen4o4 wrote:
i dont even use or know of any other topics in the cellar. i just use it for TINP, this and the official forum are really the only 2 worth looking at on the subject. if you google most things from TINP you get a link to this thread. theres something like 1100 posts on this now?


Yeah, but why the Cellar? Does it somehow hold the ultimate clue? Or is it just that UT is more tolerant than most? (You do know who UT is, right?)

Oh yeah, to contribute a bit to some of your more recent discussions:

In Norse mythology, Hel is the ruler of Helheim, the realm of the dead. She is the youngest child of the evil god Loki and the giantess Angrboda

"Dropping the ax" generally means giving the bad news, getting rid of a group, or telling the harsh truth like it is.
Kagen4o4 • Jul 30, 2005 6:00 am
marichiko wrote:
Yeah, but why the Cellar? Does it somehow hold the ultimate clue? Or is it just that UT is more tolerant than most? (You do know who UT is, right?)

Oh yeah, to contribute a bit to some of your more recent discussions:

In Norse mythology, Hel is the ruler of Helheim, the realm of the dead. She is the youngest child of the evil god Loki and the giantess Angrboda

"Dropping the ax" generally means giving the bad news, getting rid of a group, or telling the harsh truth like it is.


UT? no i dont, admin im guessing?


where does the dropping the axe/bad news term come from?
Happy Monkey • Jul 30, 2005 9:18 am
marichiko wrote:
Yeah, but why the Cellar? Does it somehow hold the ultimate clue? Or is it just that UT is more tolerant than most? (You do know who UT is, right?)
Well, Cellarites started discussing it, which caused it to show up in search engines, which attracted more TINP fans, who remained after the Cellarites lost interest.

(Note for those TINP folk who have usernames, the "New Posts" link up top will give you a good idea of what sorts of other topics are currently being discussed on the Cellar.)
KristianBoruff • Jul 30, 2005 12:10 pm
Courage! What makes a king out of a slave? Courage! What makes the flag on the mast to wave? Courage! What makes the elephant charge his tusk in the misty mist, or the dusky dusk? What makes the muskrat guard his musk? Courage! What makes the sphinx the seventh wonder? Courage! What makes the dawn come up like thunder? Courage!
Undertoad • Jul 30, 2005 12:39 pm
Admin who doesn't mind people using the thread for TINP. It increases our Google value as a site, and once in a while one of y'all will check out the rest of the system and find us interesting. So there is some give and take really.
marichiko • Jul 30, 2005 5:23 pm
Kagen4o4 wrote:



where does the dropping the axe/bad news term come from?


I would imagine its a quaint expression lingering on from the middle ages when people were commonly executed by being beheaded. You put your head on a wooden block and the executioner dropped his ax on your neck. If you were lucky, he'd sharpened his ax the night before. If you weren't lucky, he might have had to make several attempts.
EliteAssasin • Jul 30, 2005 7:29 pm
KristianBoruff wrote:
Courage! What makes a king out of a slave? Courage! What makes the flag on the mast to wave? Courage! What makes the elephant charge his tusk in the misty mist, or the dusky dusk? What makes the muskrat guard his musk? Courage! What makes the sphinx the seventh wonder? Courage! What makes the dawn come up like thunder? Courage!



Is This The Real Kristian Boruff?

has he decided to be here and at TINP?

:mg:

Are You The Real Deal?
Or An Imposter?
:worried:


Also

Nice Refrenence To W***********(Gets Shot In The Back Of The Head)
Kagen4o4 • Jul 30, 2005 11:34 pm
KristianBoruff wrote:
Courage! What makes a king out of a slave? Courage! What makes the flag on the mast to wave? Courage! What makes the elephant charge his tusk in the misty mist, or the dusky dusk? What makes the muskrat guard his musk? Courage! What makes the sphinx the seventh wonder? Courage! What makes the dawn come up like thunder? Courage!



this is definately interesting. what would TINP be doing here? (despite the obvious)
Hajik • Jul 30, 2005 11:34 pm
Oh my god.. That thing he said is a quote. It's from the Wizard of Oz. The lion said it when he was asked how he would act as the "King if the Forest". I hope that helps.

There is some more to it but not much, this is what he said exactly.

How? Courage! What makes a King out of a slave? Courage!
What makes the flag on the mast to wave? Courage!
What makes the elephant charge his tusk in the misty mist, or the dusky dusk? What makes the muskrat guard his musk? Courage!
What makes the Sphinx the Seventh Wonder? Courage!
What makes the dawn come up like thunder? Courage!
What makes the Hottentot so hot? What puts the ape in ape-ricot? What have they got that I ain't got?

Also here's the link to the page I got it from. It's a summary of that whole scene.

[HTML]http://nascarulz.tripod.com/ozking.html[/HTML]
marichiko • Jul 30, 2005 11:44 pm
Hajik wrote:
Oh my god.. That thing he said is a quote. It's from the Wizard of Oz. The lion said it when he was asked how he would act as the "King if the Forest". I hope that helps.

There is some more to it but not much, this is what he said exactly.

How? Courage! What makes a King out of a slave? Courage!
What makes the flag on the mast to wave? Courage!
What makes the elephant charge his tusk in the misty mist, or the dusky dusk? What makes the muskrat guard his musk? Courage!
What makes the Sphinx the Seventh Wonder? Courage!
What makes the dawn come up like thunder? Courage!
What makes the Hottentot so hot? What puts the ape in ape-ricot? What have they got that I ain't got?

Also here's the link to the page I got it from. It's a summary of that whole scene.

[HTML]http://nascarulz.tripod.com/ozking.html[/HTML]


Sometimes late when things are real
And people share the gift of gab between themselves
Some are quick to take the bait
And catch the perfect prize that waits among the shelves

But Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man
That he didn't, didn't already have
And Cause never was the reason for the evening
Or the tropic of Sir Galahad.


If you will recall the Tin Man carried an ax, and your friend showed up at the point of discussing the meaning of "dropping the ax."
Hajik • Jul 31, 2005 12:16 am
There are some major differences from the book and the movie, so I don't know which one he's refrencing(sp) although chances are it's probably the book. As for the differences the movie is sugarcoated compared to the book. You think of it like this the is like American McGee's Alice, dark, twisted, and an overall not nice version of the story. Were as the movie is sugarcoated and "kid-friendly" compared to that game. It's sorta like that, although the book isn't supposed to be scary, it does have some differences in it that cause it to be more dark then the movie was. As for the axe, the Tin Man certainly uses it more liberaly then in the movie. I've never read the book, and it's been a long time since I've seen the movie so don't hesitate to correct me. But the only time the Tin Man uses his axe in the movie is to chop down a door barring the Tin Man, Lion, and Scarecrow from the witch and Dorothy. In the book the Tin Man cuts the head off a wildcat and there was something about him cutting the limbs off trees that were alive. Afterwards the trees sway in pain and terror.
wolf • Jul 31, 2005 12:23 am
Perhaps the point is to bring you along the chain of logic to remember that the Scarecrow spent his time singing, "If I Only had a Brain."
marichiko • Jul 31, 2005 12:31 am
wolf wrote:
Perhaps the point is to bring you along the chain of logic to remember that the Scarecrow spent his time singing, "If I Only had a Brain."


Damn, Wolf! How come you're not President? :lol:
wolf • Jul 31, 2005 12:25 pm
Insufficient financial backing.
EliteAssasin • Jul 31, 2005 12:36 pm
Drop His Axe=Tin Man


TIN MAN=PROTAG OF DDD!

just a theory


Also At The End Of WoZ-

SPOILERS AHEAD
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Dorothy woke up at the end at her house.

The House On /6/=WoZ Connection


Maybe?



And just a quick little possible connection,

DDD had a Tornado of events and they were all wierd and mixed up and stuff.

Protag was caught in a "Tornado" of events that brought him to a paranormal reality


WoZ=Tornado brought Dorothy to a wierd world and stuff.and when she finally got to the wizard Of Woz,her dream ended and she got caught back up with Reality


Just a possibility that we Can Use WoZ more after we solve the drop Axe thingy
discordant_harmony • Jul 31, 2005 9:45 pm
I agree with that. PLus the picture is also a lot like Dorthey's house. I bet that is what it is. DD has only been part of the passwords for the 6 lights; now that we are past that, it might no longer be a big DDD thing?

This opens a lot more possible keys for the code.
XRedBlazeX • Aug 1, 2005 5:57 pm
marichiko wrote:
So, how'd you guys end up discussing all this stuff on the Cellar, anyhow? Do you do anything besides try to solve the game? Do you ever read any of the other forums here? Do you feel wierd being this sort of little sub-cult here that regular members of the cellar hardly ever talk to? How come you don't create your very own seperate "This is not porn" discussion site?

Just wondering, and no I don't have a clue. :confused:
Google is the main reason. The Cellar along with the official TINP forums are the top search results for anything TINP related.
I've been meaning to start posting in other threads at The Cellar, but I haven't had a lot of time. I don't like being somewhere and only being able to read 10% of the threads... Maybe since school starts, since I'll be slacking off and less busy :lol: .


KristianBoruff wrote:

Courage! What makes a king out of a slave? Courage!
What makes the flag on the mast to wave? Courage!
What makes the elephant charge his tusk in the misty mist, or the dusky dusk?
What makes the muskrat guard his musk? Courage!
What makes the sphinx the seventh wonder? Courage!
What makes the dawn come up like thunder? Courage!
Hm, the first sentence is definately a Wizard of Oz quote. I'll try searching some of the other things later.

Random Stuff:
-is there a reason why it doesn't say courage after elephant?
-this parahraph structure is called "parallelism".
-the 7th Wonder of the World was the Alexandrian Lighthouse, the remains of which are underwater along with enormouses spinxes and statues of men and women. http://www.abc.se/~m10354/publ/alexandr.htm




Dropping your axe has been said to have many meanings, many related to death, dieing, killing, failing, giving up, losing hope, etc.
crazypeoplethink • Aug 1, 2005 7:27 pm
I don't remember if someone already said this but an axe is also a guitar.
That is probably a really wrong turn though.
Kagen4o4 • Aug 1, 2005 9:53 pm
yeah i brought up the guitar thing but only because there were songs mentioned. it wasnt really a strong argument
Hajik • Aug 1, 2005 11:24 pm
Hm, the first sentence is definately a Wizard of Oz quote. I'll try searching some of the other things later.


The entire thing comes from the movie. Skimmed through most of the book the other night. The entire thing he said came from the movie version of it.
EliteAssasin • Aug 2, 2005 2:29 pm
tinman had a Axe=Dropped his axe?

and then maybe theres something in the book the "Elephant Vanishes",maybe one of the short stories in there has something.i'll read it tonight :biggrin:
XRedBlazeX • Aug 4, 2005 7:25 pm
I'm going to start camping in the IRC and AIM rooms for TINP again, since I finally installed Trillian again. Anybody is more than welcome to join me and work on TINP (or just Trading of ideas from one entity to another), so please just invite yourselfeves.

The AIM room is: TINP
If you don't know how invite yourself, go into the invite menu, add yourself into the invitation box, and change the room name to TINP.

The IRC is server is irc.hack3r.com and our channel is #tinp. If you don't know how to use IRC, or don't have an IRC client, try downloading mIRC. It's a free stand-alone program that hopefully shouldn't be too difficult to configure.





Edit: I will more often be in the IRC room, as I've found no way to automaticially join an AIM room when trillian starts up.
EliteAssasin • Aug 4, 2005 9:17 pm
Huzzah!

THISISNOTACHATROOM(YOU NEED JAVA)


Chatroom on my website :biggrin:

and you need Java and this is for People that dont wanna use IRC OR AIM.

or dont have them


we can post times for Meetings and stuff

discuss and share ideas and stuff for TINP :p
XRedBlazeX • Aug 4, 2005 11:47 pm
I posted this in the TINP forum, but I can't connect to your chatroom... it has issues with my dad's firewall (my dad's a fuckin asshole)
Kagen4o4 • Aug 5, 2005 2:35 am
have you tried turning him off?
XRedBlazeX • Aug 5, 2005 1:29 pm
My dad or the firewall? I can't turn the firewall off...
EliteAssasin • Aug 5, 2005 3:35 pm
Turn off your Dad :lol: :lol: :lol:
XRedBlazeX • Aug 6, 2005 5:35 pm
He's old... he might turn off automaticially any one of these days haha.
Kagen4o4 • Aug 7, 2005 2:35 am
XRedBlazeX wrote:
He's old... he might turn off automaticially any one of these days haha.

or just dress up like your mother HAHAHAHAH im just kidding, thought it might get a cheap laugh or two
EliteAssasin • Aug 7, 2005 10:32 am
HAHAHAHAHA

/Cheap Laugh
YellowBolt • Aug 10, 2005 11:11 pm
Wow, this thread is still here? That's pretty amazing.
Kagen4o4 • Aug 11, 2005 1:03 am
geez yellowbot when was your last post??? did you think this thread would last 59 pages when you started it?
Duey Oxburger • Aug 11, 2005 10:20 am
Yellowbolt's back! Quick everyone!! Grab a rope and tie him down so he'll never leave!!

Erm...yeah...so are you going to help now, or are you still quitting?
YellowBolt • Aug 11, 2005 11:14 pm
I lurk on IOTD. :/

I haven't looked at TINP for months now, and I don't think I'm going to try again without a nice dose of caffine.

Carry on, folks. First, though, summarize for me the current progress into the website.
XRedBlazeX • Aug 12, 2005 3:33 pm
IOTD?

Anyways, we have solved each of the 6 lights on the lights page. We've been able to go through and look around at what's in them for some time, though we're still working on decoding some of the stuff from /6/. We can't however, figure out how to move on. We figure that the "lights page" is just one page, like the "truck page" or "asia awaits", as opposed to each of the lights being a whole new thing. With this in mind, we need to use and relate all of the lights in order to get past the lights page, which we think is another thing where we type in the URL.
Happy Monkey • Aug 12, 2005 7:03 pm
IOTD
Duey Oxburger • Aug 14, 2005 11:19 am
Idea: The whole time I (and most poeple) have been thinking of "What is Paige's number?" (the barcode) we thought it would be a phone number or a numerical value. I had a convo with SilverPhoenix and something sparked an idea that "number" could mean "song". We already have a few song references, so it seems like it could fit.

Just wanted to throw that out there.
Dunlavy • Aug 19, 2005 9:57 pm
what ever ahppened to that number?

1-XXX-XXX-XXXX? (number deleted by request)

It once worked, I guess it was just taken down? Have there been any other messages from people's emails sense?
mricytoast • Aug 20, 2005 2:17 am
Haha. Why did I know I'd end up in this thread?

I was looking through some old pictures from back when TINP first started and I found a bunch. The one that realyl strikes me is the Prometheus picture. The lightning bolted fist... I've seen it somewhere before. Could anyone possibly link me? It's really getting to me!

I went back and tried it and I got past level one... that's about it. I've completely forgotten all of it. :(
Duey Oxburger • Aug 20, 2005 10:59 am
Dunlavy wrote:
what ever ahppened to that number?

1-XXX-XXX-XXXX? (number deleted by request)

It once worked, I guess it was just taken down? Have there been any other messages from people's emails sense?
That number was taken down a while ago. You used to be able to listen to all the calls, but the link is down aswell http://www.thisisnotporn.com/cellphone/

As for emails, I dont think he's sent anything else out...or maybe I'm just left out :p
jrs0628 • Aug 28, 2005 12:54 pm
Hey guys... just wanted to post this..... it took me a little thinking, but I finally got it.... The Username/Password for the Audiotion, Death of a Traveling Salesman is...

UN: Murakami
PW: Gregor_Samsa

I'm sure you guys already probably figured this easy one out, but just in case =P

- Jon Scott
Kagen4o4 • Aug 28, 2005 8:07 pm
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
after all that bloody hinting at it but not actually saying it, this n00b comes out and says it
thanks JS
the one password we managed to keep ever so slightly secret on the cellar has now been brought out in the open.
now the cellar mentions every password up to where we are.
but at least you have 59 pages to find them all still. it would probably be easier to actually do the wuzzle
jrs0628 • Aug 28, 2005 8:53 pm
Lol... I coulden't resist =P
Undertoad • Aug 28, 2005 9:08 pm
Do you all want me to edit it out?
XRedBlazeX • Aug 28, 2005 9:44 pm
Nah, it's cool... all of the previous usernames and passwords have been posted here.
BigV • Aug 28, 2005 11:40 pm
Undertoad wrote:
Do you all want me to edit it out?
What a conscientious landlord. Thanks (again) for the cellar, and your love and effort, Undertoad.
Kagen4o4 • Aug 29, 2005 11:26 pm
yeah just leave it. we practically said it anyway earlier.

but thanks for the thought
jbot • Sep 6, 2005 5:56 pm
has anyone noticed you can't go to the official forums or thisisnotporn.com anymore? or is it just my computer?
atari • Sep 6, 2005 7:18 pm
It's not just you. And Krisboruff.com still doesn't work. Looks like Mr. TINP hasn't been paying his dues! Or something...
XRedBlazeX • Sep 6, 2005 9:54 pm
Yeah, it's got something to do with the website's billing. Chances are Kris just forgot, or he's on vacation or something...
WillGtl • Sep 7, 2005 10:46 pm
Hopefully TINP will be back soon.
Kagen4o4 • Sep 8, 2005 12:22 am
"he'll be back" *rocking back and forth "he'll be back"
Duey Oxburger • Sep 8, 2005 4:48 pm
Its ok Kagen..the withdrawl symptoms ease after two weeks.
wolf • Sep 9, 2005 4:07 am
Damn, heroin only takes 5 days to get out of your system. You guys okay? ;) Go take a look at the IOTD or something ...
Kagen4o4 • Sep 9, 2005 8:12 pm
oh ive seen it
XRedBlazeX • Sep 12, 2005 7:02 pm
TINP's back up... Kris's wallet was stolen so he had to cancle all his credit cards, which screwed around with his host's billing.
Kagen4o4 • Sep 12, 2005 11:33 pm
imagine if the person who stole it knew about TINP. he would just freak out
Mr. Ears • Sep 29, 2005 9:51 am
I think Kris needs to give us some hints
WillGtl • Sep 30, 2005 3:26 pm
I am not sure if this has been said yet, but on the page that has this poem:

"Like one who, on a lonely road,
Doth walk in fear and dread,
And having once turned round, walks on,
And turns no more his head;
Because he knows a frightful fiend
Doth close behind him tread."

The poem is by Coleridge's "Ancient Mariner". I am not sure if this helps at all.

::EDIT:: Has anybody figured out the username and password for Audition, Death of A Traveling Salesman yet?
Duey Oxburger • Sep 30, 2005 5:12 pm
WillGtl wrote:
I am not sure if this has been said yet, but on the page that has this poem:

"Like one who, on a lonely road,
Doth walk in fear and dread,
And having once turned round, walks on,
And turns no more his head;
Because he knows a frightful fiend
Doth close behind him tread."

The poem is by Coleridge's "Ancient Mariner". I am not sure if this helps at all.

::EDIT:: Has anybody figured out the username and password for Audition, Death of A Traveling Salesman yet?

Thanks for the name and author of that poem.

Yes, the username/password has been solved for that prompt.
WillGtl • Sep 30, 2005 9:10 pm
Not sure if this has also been found but on, Sun and Death Travel Together, hidden in the sky, there is a message that reads:

(Left of the middle tree)
"Bore cad,
Cool Bearded crab."

(Right of the middle tree)
"Bad core."
WillGtl • Sep 30, 2005 9:20 pm
In My Eyes Are Burning Hel. Above the grafitti to the left of the white thing, in you click a lot a sword will flash on the wall.

When you click down by the mirrored graffitti, there is a promp that says "SHE IS HIDDEN, THREE ITEMS."

The sword could be one item.

::EDIT:: Also when I was clicking around, a got to a new page all it had was a small hand-print which glowed and transformed into some wierd lung looking thing.

http://thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/5/WhereIsGotanda.htm
WillGtl • Oct 1, 2005 12:58 am
I might have found a new page.

When clicking around Sun and Death Travel Together a new window popped up with a prompt saying:

"She hangs her head and cries on my shirt. She must be hurt very badly. Tell me what's making you sad, Li? Open your dorr, don't hide in the dark. You're lost in the dark, you can trust me. 'Cause you know thats how it must be. Her eyes like windows, trickle in rain Upon the pain getting deeper. Though my love want to relieve her. She walks alone from wall to wall. Last in her hall, she can't hear me. Though I know she likes to be near me. She sits in a corner by the door. There must be more I can tell her. If she really wants me to help her. I'll do what I can to show her the way. And maybe one day I will free her. Though I know no one can see her."

I clicked on the open window of the broken house in the picture, got a new page with a new promp saying:

"Lonesome Suzie never got the breaks. She's always losing and so she sits and cries and shakes. It's hard just to watch her and if I touch her... Oh, poor Suzie, I'm wondering what to do.She just sits there hoping for a friend. I don't fit here but I may have a friend to lend. Maybe I mistook her but I can't overlook her. Must be someone who can pull her through. Anyone who's felt that bad could tell me what to say. Even if whe just got mad she might be better off that way. And where is all the understanding?Her problems can't be that demanding. Why is it she looks my way. Every time she starts to cry. Lonesome Suzie, I can't watch you cry no longer. If you can use me until you feel a little stronger. I guess just watching you had made me lonesome too. Why don't we get together, what else can we do?"

I wrote that verbatim, all punctuation is as is from the prompt, if that means anything.
Duey Oxburger • Oct 1, 2005 8:17 am
WillGtl wrote:

::EDIT:: Also when I was clicking around, a got to a new page all it had was a small hand-print which glowed and transformed into some wierd lung looking thing.

http://thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/5/WhereIsGotanda.htm


That is a hoof, not a lung ;) If you check the name of the image, it says "SHEEPMAN" which of course, refers to Dance Dance Dance.

And it seems you've been doing a lot of work on your own. I want to let you know that almost everything you've said has been figured out already (by no means am I trying to discourage you); its great to have someone actually interested in doing it by himself.
If you haven't already, sign up on the official forums. There is a good source of info there if you want to get up to speed with the rest of the TINPers. http://www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/index.php?

EDIT: It seems as if you have already signed up on the official boards...now get posting!
Kagen4o4 • Oct 2, 2005 12:17 am
WillGtl wrote:
I might have found a new page.

When clicking around Sun and Death Travel Together a new window popped up with a prompt saying:

"She hangs her head and cries on my shirt. She must be hurt very badly. Tell me what's making you sad, Li? Open your dorr, don't hide in the dark. You're lost in the dark, you can trust me. 'Cause you know thats how it must be. Her eyes like windows, trickle in rain Upon the pain getting deeper. Though my love want to relieve her. She walks alone from wall to wall. Last in her hall, she can't hear me. Though I know she likes to be near me. She sits in a corner by the door. There must be more I can tell her. If she really wants me to help her. I'll do what I can to show her the way. And maybe one day I will free her. Though I know no one can see her."

I clicked on the open window of the broken house in the picture, got a new page with a new promp saying:

"Lonesome Suzie never got the breaks. She's always losing and so she sits and cries and shakes. It's hard just to watch her and if I touch her... Oh, poor Suzie, I'm wondering what to do.She just sits there hoping for a friend. I don't fit here but I may have a friend to lend. Maybe I mistook her but I can't overlook her. Must be someone who can pull her through. Anyone who's felt that bad could tell me what to say. Even if whe just got mad she might be better off that way. And where is all the understanding?Her problems can't be that demanding. Why is it she looks my way. Every time she starts to cry. Lonesome Suzie, I can't watch you cry no longer. If you can use me until you feel a little stronger. I guess just watching you had made me lonesome too. Why don't we get together, what else can we do?"

I wrote that verbatim, all punctuation is as is from the prompt, if that means anything.


this is all very old news. try reading or just skimming through all the previous pages. almost all relevant and irrelevant material has been covered
WillGtl • Oct 2, 2005 1:26 pm
lol, did anyone realize the face on that tree on the one page lights up?
WillGtl • Oct 2, 2005 2:01 pm
crazypeoplethink wrote:
That's possible, but for the "My eyes are burning Hel' Hel is a mythological character. Norse Mythology I believe.


I am not sure if this has been said, but, Hel is the Norse goddess of death and the underworld, she is the daughter of the Norse god Loki, in which was the god of discourd, in whom created discourd for the other gods.

In religious terms, Hel is the world of the dead, it's actually a synonym of Hell.
Kagen4o4 • Oct 3, 2005 6:40 am
ok willgtl...everything youve said has been found. PLEASE read the rest of the thread
3Engineersandafreak • Oct 4, 2005 10:44 pm
I'm pretty sure Loki wasn't a god, persay, just a trickster.
Happy Monkey • Oct 5, 2005 12:02 am
He was half god, half giant.
Bullitt • Oct 5, 2005 12:49 pm
Kagen4o4 wrote:
PLEASE read the rest of the thread

I wouldn't wish that fate on anyone.. this is the longest flippin thread I've seen during my stay in the Cellar
XRedBlazeX • Oct 5, 2005 5:15 pm
Bullitt wrote:
I wouldn't wish that fate on anyone.. this is the longest flippin thread I've seen during my stay in the Cellar

That may be true, but I've read every post of it. if I can do it, then surely anybody else working on TINP should be able to. It's very annoying having things repeated over and over again...
BigV • Oct 5, 2005 5:54 pm
I read it all too. But at that point, there were merely 339 previous posts to death march through. It is a considerably more daunting task today.

I agree it is much more worthwhile to read the thread than to just lob questions into the mix. The good stuff is all there.

btw, I read the whole Doodads thread too. I know, I know....
Kagen4o4 • Oct 6, 2005 3:04 am
ive read it all. they just just skim over the really early ones if they have passed that point
discordant_harmony • Oct 17, 2005 3:18 pm
i've read it all too....even when i came in, which was around 700, i think

but let's not diss the newbie, i mean, i'm really glad that someone new has come and really done a lot of the stuff for himself, and who knows? he might provide some new ideas for where we are now. it's okay that he's posting old stuff. it might be something we forgot about which will bring things together in our minds. and if not, remeber back when you discovered something new? it was so exciting, you wanted to tell everyone, even if they knew already.
Nibor • Oct 21, 2005 1:38 pm
hey every1.
this thread has about 941 replies, and 131,623 views or sumthin like that. thats a shitload guys. ive bin reading (trying to) the whole thing, its taken me 3 hours, and i still skipped part, to get near the end to see what's happened. ive done most of the notpr0n riddle, am bored and stuck, and i heard of this. pretty crazy stuff this. just a bit more outthere and complex than notpr0n, thats 4 sure. gr8 fun tho. i shall get back to you all if i find anything new...
Kagen4o4 • Oct 22, 2005 11:32 pm
see thats how a n00b is meant to reply.
juuhanna • Nov 1, 2005 7:30 am
XRedBlazeX wrote:

-the 7th Wonder of the World was the Alexandrian Lighthouse, the remains of which are underwater along with enormouses spinxes and statues of men and women.


A lighthouse, eh...? ;) I can't remember if the lighthouse page was ever solved or if it offered any info for us? Sorry, I've been on hiatus from TINP for months and am trying to catch up with the rest of you.
Porn • Nov 16, 2005 6:38 pm
Has anyone checked to see if the dates on the pictures add up to anything? Like all the pictures thus far.
BigV • Nov 16, 2005 7:16 pm
You can't be here! Didn't you read the thread title? What are you, new? Oh, you are new. Welcome to the cellar, Porn. (wow, didn't think I'd say that when I woke up this morning...)
marichiko • Nov 16, 2005 8:17 pm
Wow, porn! Is this the beginning of the end? If this is not porn and you ARE porn... Oh my, my sense of paradox has just gone on overload!

Welcome to the Cellar, and I think its time for me to leave this thread in peace again. :headshake
Porn • Nov 16, 2005 8:44 pm
Something else....


I added the Robert Silvers page the Sun and Death page etc to my favourites...and when I open them up in the browser there are numbers in the bottom right corner...


Rober Silvers page there is a 23
Sun and Death page it's 2371
Devil with 5 fingers is 999
Don't stray from the path is a 54
They Can't escape the path is a 73
Burning Hel is 1107

I dunno if this has been notice before...probably.
XRedBlazeX • Nov 17, 2005 1:09 pm
Porn wrote:
Has anyone checked to see if the dates on the pictures add up to anything? Like all the pictures thus far.
It's been looking into a little, but nothing comprehensive has been found. There hasn't been a whole lot of work done on this though, so if you have any ideas I encourage you to try them.



Porn wrote:
Something else....


I added the Robert Silvers page the Sun and Death page etc to my favourites...and when I open them up in the browser there are numbers in the bottom right corner...


Rober Silvers page there is a 23
Sun and Death page it's 2371
Devil with 5 fingers is 999
Don't stray from the path is a 54
They Can't escape the path is a 73
Burning Hel is 1107

I dunno if this has been notice before...probably.
Yeah, I can see those even with the smaller resized window. Again, we haven't found any relationship between the numbers.
juuhanna • Nov 26, 2005 12:32 pm
http://www.vfxtalk.com/forum/member.php?u=2045

:0

Also, http://usuarios.lycos.es/exdeath/text/exdeath202summary.txt
I had no idea that the structure and order of pages have changed so much in the past!

Just random stuff, I was curious and looked for Kris Boruff on google. Maybe you've seen those pages before, maybe not.
Mr. Ears • Dec 7, 2005 10:26 am
umm, are the forums down for anybody else?
Duey Oxburger • Dec 7, 2005 8:15 pm
Forums are fine for me.

EDIT: I lied. I didn't try clicking on a thread. When I do that, I get the error posted below.
Boom1121 • Dec 7, 2005 9:42 pm
Hey... the forums aren't working for me... Everytime I try to click on a thread, I get directed to an error page that has this on it:

[COLOR=Red]mySQL query error: SELECT COUNT(*) as max FROM ibf_topics WHERE forum_id=11 and approved=1 and (pinned=1 or last_post > 1131417658)

mySQL error: Table './krisboruff/ibf_topics' is marked as crashed and should be repaired
mySQL error code:
Date: Wednesday 07th of December 2005 09:40:58 PM[/COLOR]

I need a TINP fix!!!!!!!
Mr. Ears • Dec 8, 2005 8:35 am
same for me... except, i use a proxy to access the site.. so it may be that.. but it's always worked before...

wait, i actually read what is said and it says that the max post has been reached... hehe, we are posting too much... :lol:
Boom1121 • Dec 8, 2005 1:19 pm
Well, I don't use proxies and they're still messed up. :(
Duey Oxburger • Dec 8, 2005 6:49 pm
Forums are back :D
Mr. Ears • Dec 13, 2005 9:46 am
forums are down :D
XRedBlazeX • Dec 13, 2005 4:03 pm
Mr. Ears wrote:
forums are down :D

Indeed, the official TINP forums are broken again :3_eyes:
spongebry • Dec 15, 2005 3:20 pm
I have been on TINP for a few days now, and am an avid gameFAQ's thing...spongebry is my name on there. I think this game is freaky somewhat...it is almost making me go insane, not that I not insane enough already. Sorry I don't have any clues, but could anyone tell me how to get "Dance Dance Dance?" I want to get the book, but my library doesn't have it, and I can't find it anywhere else. It would be very helpful to anyone who can aid me. Thanks a lot!!!
XRedBlazeX • Dec 15, 2005 3:30 pm
spongebry wrote:
I have been on TINP for a few days now, and am an avid gameFAQ's thing...spongebry is my name on there. I think this game is freaky somewhat...it is almost making me go insane, not that I not insane enough already. Sorry I don't have any clues, but could anyone tell me how to get "Dance Dance Dance?" I want to get the book, but my library doesn't have it, and I can't find it anywhere else. It would be very helpful to anyone who can aid me. Thanks a lot!!!

Trying using google... there's a copy of the entire text somewhere on-line but I've lost the link.
Duey Oxburger • Dec 15, 2005 10:06 pm
Here is the entire book online. http://yanko.lib.ru/books/lit/engl/murakami-dance-engl.htm

You can also order it off of www.amazon.com
MellowKitty • Dec 18, 2005 12:25 am
Me and some friends have been working on this for awhile and just got past the sixth light I'm really upset I thought this light would be different to the other ones and not be a dead end, or at least look like one. Has anyone(not just in this forum)get pased the sun and death page?
Duey Oxburger • Dec 18, 2005 12:19 pm
MellowKitty wrote:
Me and some friends have been working on this for awhile and just got past the sixth light I'm really upset I thought this light would be different to the other ones and not be a dead end, or at least look like one. Has anyone(not just in this forum)get pased the sun and death page?

Sorry, everyone I know is stuck at the lights page. I'd love to get even a hint as to what to do next...
Mr. Ears • Dec 20, 2005 10:24 am
have we made any progress in the last month or so?
crazypeoplethink • Dec 20, 2005 1:34 pm
Nope.
Mr. Ears • Dec 20, 2005 1:47 pm
thats what i thought...
Duey Oxburger • Dec 20, 2005 5:47 pm
As an update, the official forums are working again. I think the problem is solved for good now :P
Mr. Ears • Dec 21, 2005 9:47 am
yea, it seems that we're posting too much..
cassiano • Dec 24, 2005 2:00 am
russotto wrote:
Checking back -- it says "He who rules by the sword" -- it doesn't have the "dies by the sword" part. Once you get that, you end up at the page with Alpha Hotel etc.





i need to the following codes

yuks bird

if you gets this
please send me to my email

[email]cacamaua@hotmail.com[/email]

thanks
Jealousy • Dec 27, 2005 8:17 am
The answer to your question should be somewhere on this page:

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=6096&page=22&pp=15
Rapscallion • Jan 7, 2006 2:48 pm
Okay, I've been trying to decode those Vigenere-looking jumbles. In the one where they are divided into separate words, one of the words (in the code) is 'n'.
The only one-letter words in english are 'I' and 'a'.
This means somewhere in the keyword is the letter 'f' (if the word is I) or 'n' (if the word is A).

Sorry this doesnt help very much, but now you know keywords without an n OR an f are definitely wrong (if the message is english, which it looks like it is).


Edit: did a bit more work narrowing this down.
If that 'n' is really the word 'a' or 'I', then I found the location of the 'n' or 'f' in the keyword. Since the 'n word' is 48 characters in, and the cooresponding keyword letter has to overlap, then the keyword's 48th letter is n/f.

Now, the keyword could be a short word that repeats for the length of the message. In that case, the 3rd, 6th, 12th, or 24th letter would have to be f or n. That should narrow it down considerably!
Thisisnotporn • Jan 10, 2006 11:55 pm
Hello all.
Yeah, it's me. The forums are down and having a conniption fit. PriestX and myself are working on getting them fixed and he's agreed to be the main guy keeping them running. Also, I'm glad you all like the puzzle, but I do have one thing to say. The 219 number is no longer current and calls some random person in Indiana. They've go to the length to actually hunt down the website and send email requesting the constant calls to stop. So, if you really want to call and hear what I sound like or leave a message or whatever, my skype name is: krisboruff

Thanks, I repeat, the 219 number no longer works. Thanks
Wyzrd1 • Jan 16, 2006 5:06 pm
So this is just a simple puzzle game.

I've been looking for some kind of an undernet all my life, someone or an organization that auctually had connections. For a brief moment I suspected I had found it, but in reality its just a game created by one guy for fun...

How very disapointing.
Duey Oxburger • Jan 16, 2006 9:07 pm
Wyzrd1 wrote:
So this is just a simple puzzle game.

How very disapointing.

Hardly simple, but yes, it is a fun puzzle game. Let me know if you find anything on your search :p
Wyzrd1 • Jan 18, 2006 2:26 am
True.

Allthough without the incentive of developing connections with an undernet of sizable preportions, I have to admit the motivation is gone.

Back to the search.
Homsar999 • Jan 21, 2006 3:26 pm
Some guy told me in IRC that he figured it out, and the answer was "January 26th, 2006....the boy will die alone...".

I'm wondering about January 26th... :mg:
wolf • Jan 22, 2006 1:28 am
So, wait a minute ... now that you know that the game you play is just a game you play you lost interest?

Sheesh. Kids these days.
Thisisnotporn • Jan 24, 2006 5:36 am
Wyzrd1 wrote:
So this is just a simple puzzle game.

I've been looking for some kind of an undernet all my life, someone or an organization that auctually had connections. For a brief moment I suspected I had found it, but in reality its just a game created by one guy for fun...

How very disapointing.


What?
Drake Osiris • Feb 7, 2006 12:45 am
I'm not sure if anyone noticed this, but the home page's title changed from "Something is coming..." to "Time's changing."
Drake Osiris • Feb 7, 2006 5:06 am
Also, something else I don't recall seeing in the forum and is probably unimportant by now. Back on "DON'T STRAY FROM THE PATH", inside the left eye, which brings up a dark page full of letters made out of links, I found the text "HTATDSENETCURDTNRHEOSEOLFH". Like I said, not sure if this is important by now.
crazypeoplethink • Feb 8, 2006 8:45 pm
That's not new
Drake Osiris • Feb 9, 2006 3:41 am
Never said it was new, just that I don't recall seeing it. But I did find some weird things hidden in the skies and one of the windows of "A Perfectly Common Accident." and "ShovelThatGoodSnow" a few minutes ago. Gonna look through the forums real quck before I post anything.
crazypeoplethink • Feb 9, 2006 8:53 pm
I was just letting you know that it's been there ;D
EliteAssasin • Feb 12, 2006 1:33 pm
A Long since ive posted anything about TINP,maybe the numbers are some math operation like maybe we gotta add them all up or substract and the answer will be the page number to DDD where will find the answer.Just a thought

Also the first page says Time Changing and then i checked the source and around the top it says True True True True... :yum:
Drake Osiris • Feb 13, 2006 8:10 pm
I've looked over several previous pages, and found nothing mentioning any of this. You guys may have noticed it and not said anything, but this is what I found:

-- A perfectly common accident ---
- Hidden in the sky to the left of the house -
&#931;HE&#8486;A&#931;
MAPPIE&#916;
TO THE
&#916;U&#923;&#928;HIN

-- ShovelThatGoodSnow ---
- Hidden in the sky, upper-right of the image -
3sv8v wrw sv w8lk sr7 z2v. 4rtmv8v?

- Upside-down in the darkest window -
Ml6 8vk8lzxsv/
6l GDI y1 FJ.

The last one stands a good chance of being wrong, as I couldn't make out some of the characters.

And EliteAssasin, are you sure that wasn't just a string of variables you were looking at?
Kagen4o4 • Feb 14, 2006 12:05 am
Drake Osiris wrote:
I've looked over several previous pages, and found nothing mentioning any of this. You guys may have noticed it and not said anything, but this is what I found:

-- A perfectly common accident ---
- Hidden in the sky to the left of the house -
&#931;HE&#8486;A&#931;
MAPPIE&#916;
TO THE
&#916;U&#923;&#928;HIN

-- ShovelThatGoodSnow ---
- Hidden in the sky, upper-right of the image -
3sv8v wrw sv w8lk sr7 z2v. 4rtmv8v?

- Upside-down in the darkest window -
Ml6 8vk8lzxsv/
6l GDI y1 FJ.

The last one stands a good chance of being wrong, as I couldn't make out some of the characters.

And EliteAssasin, are you sure that wasn't just a string of variables you were looking at?


these are not new and have been discussed and translated.
Duey Oxburger • Feb 14, 2006 7:30 pm
drake, check out the official TINP forums. I'm not sure if Mr. TINP has deleted the threads that discussed some older topics, but I'm pretty sure that your findings are discussed.

http://www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/index.php?
choymantisbxr • Mar 3, 2006 5:10 pm
Wyzrd1: you're completley insane. everyone else:would anyone be so kind as to bring me up to speed with the progress we've made so far?
wolf • Mar 4, 2006 2:45 am
I don't even play this game, but I know the answer to that one ... start reading this thread at page 1. It's pretty much in order from there.

Better still, if there's more to you than the toy, check out the rest of this place.
Kagen4o4 • Mar 4, 2006 8:17 pm
can someone just figure this out and get back to me. i could probably draw the TINP sites from start to finish without even looking at them. they are burned in my retina and i need someone to finish it up for me
SilverPhoenix • Mar 5, 2006 7:55 am
choy: come to the AIM chatroom 'tinp' and I'll try to fill you in from where you left off. I'll also be on IRC in irc.hack3r.com/tinp.

wolf: I'm far more of a lurker than a talker; while I don't say much of anything outside this thread, I came for the TINP thread and stayed for the pre-existing community. :)

Kagen: getting there. ... slowly.
crazypeoplethink • Mar 5, 2006 5:17 pm
I have everything to do written down, not sure how helpful it'll be but do guys wanna see it?
Kagen4o4 • Mar 5, 2006 6:14 pm
is that everything up to where we are now? or everything needed to get past where we are. either way whip it out
crazypeoplethink • Mar 6, 2006 8:19 pm
*too lazy to answer* here's all the junk
First Page
Click on the flashing eyes
Page 2
Alexander
Gordian
Page 3
www.thisisnotporn.com/see/IJsselmeer.htm
Page 4
Edith
Head
Page 5
Click on the window
Page 6
Light # 3
ADEADBABE
Alone
DEAD END!!!!!
Light # 4
Yuki
Gotanda
Click on the 20 in the date
Goes to a pic of a cell… click anywhere and you go back
DEAD END!!!!
Light # 5
Xerxes
Demaratus

Pic of Tree
Right Eye: DEAD END!!!!!!
Left Eye: ???????? Had sent what he owns?
Crtresof
Udnh
HTATDSENETCURDTNRHEOSEOLFH
Light # 6
Kipper
May
Then Click on the license plate on the truck
Friend/Family of one armed skeleton
Light 2
UN: Prometheus
Password: Paradise
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/cellphone/
???
Light 1
UN: Murakami
Password: Gregor_Samsa
Page 7
Click on the tree base
Page 8
Click on the window
crazypeoplethink • Mar 6, 2006 8:19 pm
Oven Page (homepage): click window on oven door
| Title: Something Is Coming
V
Asia Awaits (not.htm): red background. Click 'Asia' text to get prompt.
| Title: afg bbb bai bab adc aig bba baa adc ahd bab bab aef
| Prompt: 'HeWhoLivesByTheSword'
| Clues: Check the source code.
V
Truck Page (TimeFlows.htm): Decipher the clues and change the page URL to
continue.
| Title: Patients.......079 110 032 116 [...more three-digit #'s]
| Clues: Check the source code. Google and anagramming will help.
V
Treesign Page ({answerfromprevious}.htm): Click the sign to get prompt.
| Title: HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME?
| Prompt: 'WhatALovelyDrapeTheyMake'
| Clues: Source code, Photoshop.
V
Hotel Page (Aquatic.htm): Click a lower window to continue to the next screen.
| Title: the eyes that C the Claws that CatCh
| Clues: Source code, but only for further pages.
V
The Lights Page (SM.htm): Click on the lowest light first, to get the later
| clues in the correct order.
| Title: A moth flew in the room when I di4d
| Prompt, L1 (../1/~.htm): 'Curiosity Killed The Cat'
| Prompt, L2 (../2/~.htm): 'Master and Betrayer'
| Prompt, L3 (../3/~.htm): 'Dorothy and Scarecrow'
| Prompt, L4 (../4/~.htm): 'FACE0F, What darkness do we live'
| Prompt, L5 (../5/~.htm): 'Frankenstein now, Yuki's Bird'
| Prompt, L6 (../6/~.htm): 'Audition, Death of a Traveling Salesman'
| Clues: mouseover statusbar messages.
V
-+->First Light (../1/1.htm) Click the license plate to open a subpage.
| Title: THEY CAN'T ESCAPE THE STORM
| Page 'number': 73
| Walls code(s): Outside: 1F DH | Inside: none
>--->License Plate (HypericumPerforatum.htm)
| Title: Hide Your Sorrows
| Clues: the ASCII text making up the picture is a code, repeated several
| times over. Decode it, then Google the quote to answer the next
| prompt.
|
-+->Second Light (../2/toto.htm) Click the 'eyes' of the tree to find subpages.
| Title: DON'T STRAY FROM THE PATH
| Page 'number': 54
| Walls code(s): Outside: 2F SJ | Inside: 2f, BR 9f
| Clues: "ALL IS DEAD AND GONE WHAT WAS LEFT BY THE WOEBEGONE" in the
| source code
| Photoshopped text in the left side of the photo reads "How would
| you like it if someone picked something off of you?"
>--->The Black page (../2/left.htm) The 'eye' on your left, not the tree's.
| Title: We Face Each Other Across A Small Table.
| Clues: "HTATDSENETCURDTNRHEOSEOLFH" below the image.
| The bulk of the page is an all-black jpg, with imagemaps that
| spell out "Shovel that good snow" backwards.
| Mouseover statusbar messages describe the Sheepman's room.
>--->The Tunnel page (../2/right.htm) The 'eye' on your right, not the tree's.
| Title: Philip K. Dick's Fortune Cookie
| Clues: The six parts of the image change upon mouseover to show lines
| from Coleridge's Rime of the Ancient Mariner.
| The bottom slice of image is also an animated .gif that flashes
| 'YOU ARE NOT OF[sic] THE PATH' once every ~ten seconds.
|
-+->Third Light (../3/WeAreConnected.htm) Click the date and the faint circles
| to open subpages.
| Title: Robert Silvers
| Page 'number': 23
| Walls code(s): Outside: 9G BR | Inside: BR 9g
| Clues: Clicking the smaller windmill pops up a JS message encoded in
| Navajo, specifically that from the code used in WWII.
| There are five hard-to-see circles just below the windmills; each
| one leads to a smaller popup window, displaying a robotic head, as
| well as displaying mouseover status messages.
>--->The Heads pages (../3/head/[1-5].htm)
| Titles: 1: Piggy Piggy
| 2: We've Got Ventriloquists
| 3: Who Watches the Watchme...
| 4: We Are Connected
| 5: a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy
| Clues: Each of the head pictures is a variant of "David Hanson.jpg",
| and all five pages have "unhssrvelette " (with the space) in the
| source code. This anagrams to 'seventh result', which is the
| appropriate Google result to find the David Hanson who created
| the head.
>--->The Steel Bars page (../3/ever_yo_ne_i_sdead.htm)
| Title: 1 2
| Clues: Upon page load, a JS popup appears that has Navajo text in it.
|
-+->Fourth Light (../4/1129524974645525182.htm) Click the power lines and the
| vehicle in the distance for popup messages, both plaintext &
| Navajo. Unlinked subpages, see Clues.
| Title: THE DEVIL WITH 5 FINGERS
| Page 'number': 999
| Walls code(s): Outside: 4I ST | Inside: 4I ST
| Clues: Several images are named to 'fit' together: 'I', 'am', 'cursed.'
| and 'diablo'.
| Photoshopped text in upper-left sky reads "[The danger] must be
| growing/[For the rowers keep on rowing/And they certianly are not
| showing/any] signs that they [are slowing.]"
| Subpages: ../4/Moluccas.htm, ../4/Sorrows%20of%20Werter.htm, &
| ../4/Plutarch's%20lives.htm
>--->Subpages
| Titles: Moluccas: X, 743-5 (refers to book 10 of Paradise Lost)
| Plutarch's: A life half lived.
| Werter: Distant Mother. Resentful child.
| Clues: Imagenames are related: 'fear', 'love', & 'hate', and 'who',
| 'is', & 'left'
| Mouseover status messages read, variously, "I have no mouth",
| "and I", & "must scream"
| Heavily encoded Navajo code in the source of Moluccas.
| Text in the background images can be strung together to read
| "There's something really abnormal about you, you know."
| The background images themselves can be put together to show a
| figure looking out of a window at a hotel.
|
-+->Fifth Light (../5/three.htm) Click the figure's face, the biohazard symbol,
| and the fist above the figure's head for subpages. Double-click
| the dagger to make it fade. Click 'Ever so peaceably' and the
| figure's chest for popup messages.
| Title: MY EYES ARE BURNING HEL [sic]
| Page 'number': 1107
| Walls code(s): Outside: 4S TC | Inside: 4I ST
| Clues: Several anagrams/Navajo codes/etc. in the popups.
>--->The Fish page (../5/ANOTHERCORPSE.htm) (click the fist-in-a-circle)
| Title: I wouldn't be able to wash it off.
| Clues: "I am a smuts innuendo" in the source code.
| "THE CURSE OF THE MASERATI" in a JS mouseover; "What's Happened
| to me?" in a popup.
>--->Idle Tuesday page (../5/UNREQUITEDLOVE.htm) (click the biohazard sign)
| Title: Cuck-Koo
| Clues: "Did I kill Kiki?" in a popup; the image is 'kiki.jpg'.
>--->The Scepter page (../5/WhereIsGotanda.htm) (click the figure's chest)
| Title: SCEPTER
| Clues: "Thoughtyou'dgetheresooner" as a JS popup.
| Has an animated .gif, of a handprint changing to a hoofprint.
| Click the image to open a sub-subpage.
>------>The Carpace page (../5/Carpace.htm)
| Title: [none]
| Clues: Inverted (white text) ASCII art; an outline of a cockroach.
|-+->Sixth Light (../6/FindTheDate.htm) Click the tree for a subpage.
| Title: Sun and Death Travel Together
| Page 'number': 2371
| Walls code(s): Outside: The Walls Are Closing In | Inside: BR 9g
| Clues: passing your mouse over the image changes the season from winter
| to summer and viceversa.
| summer.jpg has "Bad core.", "Coo! Bearded crab", and "Bore cad."
| photoshopped into the sky. These all anagram to 'barcode'.
| Every image 'inside' this light has one or more barcodes embedded
| in it.
| Barcodes decode as:
| "Even the darkness of night was different."
| "What was Paige's number?"
| "crownswordscepterm"
| "I scarcely talk to the cat anymore."
| There's one more barcode that is too blurred to read.
>--->The First House page (5coffinsandoneempty/Vig.htm) Click the right-hand
| window for a subpage.
| Title: A Perfectly Common Accident
| Clues: 'BOX', repeated three times, and 'SHOVEL THAT GOOD SNOW', both
| in the source code.
| "She was married to the Dolphin", in Windows 'Symbol' font,
| embedded in the left-side sky.
| A long string of gibberish in the source code, possibly Vigenere
| code.
| Barcode decodes as "The area had changed Mark"
| 'Sad Lisa' lyrics, by Cat Stevens, popup upon page load.
| The image name, "undevilish net" anagrams to "devil in the sun".
crazypeoplethink • Mar 6, 2006 8:20 pm
>---> The Closeup House page (5coffinsandoneempty/Near.htm)
| Title: ShovelThatGoodSnow
| Clues: ASCII portrait in the source code, of Blaise Vigenere. See
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaise_de_Vigen%E8re for details
| about the man.
| A very long string of gibberish above the portrait, possibly
| Vigenere code.
| [Ml6 8vk8lzxsv7 6I GDJ y1 FJ,] photoshopped (upside-down and
| backwards) in the window.
| [3sv8v wrw sv w8lk sr7 z2v. 4rtmv8v?] photoshopped into the
| upper-right sky.
| 'Lonesome Suzie' lyrics, by Richard Manuel of The Band, popup
| upon page load.
| mouseover status message "poor chastener", which anagrams to
| "another corpse".
| Barcode decodes to "I was entirely alone in total darkness and
| it was utterly quiet."
All done...finally
Kagen4o4 • Mar 7, 2006 12:03 am
Ml6 8vk8lzxsv7 6I GDJ y1 FJ = "not reproaches to 639 by 59" ( and not reproaches is "another corpse" anagram)

3sv8v wrw sv w8lk sr7 z2v. 4rtmv8v? = "where did he drop his axe. Vignere?"

and the muddled barcode on the tree page says "Another corpse does a 350-40" this one took a lot of work by me and silverpheonix.
Curtistools • Mar 7, 2006 9:16 am
Got a mail with subject: Hello my dear friends =)

When I opened it it turns out it containes some virus and a script file.

Well...
The link in the mail leads to HTTP://traffdollar.biz were the script file tries to download loadadv553.exe and install it...
and the mail contains at least 2 different exlpoits ant a trjojan downloader...

Curtis
Mr. Ears • Mar 7, 2006 10:16 am
the forums crashed... again...
Duey Oxburger • Mar 7, 2006 4:40 pm
I got that same weird e-mail, Curtis, but I didn't click any links in it.

And yes, another forum crash :headshake
Mr. Ears • Mar 8, 2006 9:58 am
er they are up again, but i just got a virus from the website... it disabled my firewall and then tried to remotely access my computer... so be careful... oh and something else popped up saying enter prompt script or something..
Kagen4o4 • Mar 8, 2006 4:36 pm
what is TINP trying to do to us???
choymantisbxr • Mar 9, 2006 3:31 pm
yeah, i got the email too, ended up having to do a system restore (i needed one anyways). maybe it was just a virus he got and it somehow sent itself to anyone on his e-mail contacts list? its a possibility but then again the greeting in the subject line did seem a lot like kristian.
choymantisbxr • Mar 10, 2006 6:41 am
WOAH WOAH WOAH. stop the papers and call me randy mcjenkins because i think i just found something of interest. i was reading up, since i have been absent from the forums as of late and found on page thirteen people talking about an anagram. im not sure if these is relevant or not, but i wikipedia'd the word anagram to see if there was anything i was missing. check this out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anagram . heres an excerpt: Numerical anagrams use Roman numerals within words. These numeral letters, taken together according to their numerical values, express some epoch, such as the year of an event.[1]

An example of this kind is a distich of Godart on the birth of the French king Louis XIV, which occurred in the year 1638, on a day wherein there was an astrological conjunction of the Eagle with the Lion's Heart:

"eXorIens DeLphIn aqVILæ CorDIsqVe LeonIs
CongressV gaLLos spe LætItIaqVe refeCIt."
This roughly translates to, "On the conjunction of the eagle and the heart of the lion, the new Dauphin brings hope and happiness to the French." The highlighted Roman numerals sum to 1638.[1]

dauphin? sounds familiar to me.
crazypeoplethink • Mar 10, 2006 7:27 pm
yeah like the hotel in Dance Dance Dance
choymantisbxr • Mar 10, 2006 8:20 pm
also, im pretty sure someone else has noticed it before because its painfully obvious but i was walking down the street and i was hit by the realization that "a moth flew in the room when i di4d" i always saw that as "when i did", that the four was just thrown in to by disorenting and in keeping with the eerie sense of randomness. but i now realize that it says "when i diEd" (if a=1 b=2 etc.) this is in keeping with the theme of death. i think the username to the first light is relevant to this. ill do some research and see if i can find anything. sorry if this is a repeat
Kagen4o4 • Mar 10, 2006 9:37 pm
4=D not E. however a 4 can LOOK like an "e"
choymantisbxr • Mar 10, 2006 9:55 pm
ive got the username and password for audition. should i give it out?
Kagen4o4 • Mar 11, 2006 2:28 am
it has already been mentioned earlier. along with every other password
choymantisbxr • Mar 11, 2006 5:19 pm
damn it, how much did i miss? where are we at currently? it doesnt seem like theres any way to progress beyond audition unless we change the url like with scandinavian furniture.
crazypeoplethink • Mar 11, 2006 8:59 pm
I just posted where we are up to on the previous page, please read all that junk.
Porn • Mar 12, 2006 9:27 pm
Whats with the viruses from going to the forums there?
discordant_harmony • Mar 16, 2006 12:25 am
The moth died thing remind me a lot of dickinson...
Mr. Ears • Mar 16, 2006 9:51 am
supposedly its PriestX whos doing it...
Duey Oxburger • Mar 16, 2006 9:08 pm
It was not Priestx. Someone exploited a vulnerability in the forums to make it seem as if he caused these problems.

Hopefully there will be a forum switch soon.
Kagen4o4 • Mar 16, 2006 9:11 pm
priestX is a good guy
Mr. Ears • Mar 17, 2006 10:03 am
why is it they arent able to delete the trojan? oh, and does anyone else receive an error message saying the forums are password protected?
Deius Infectus • Mar 17, 2006 10:56 pm
Hi all,

I have some new info. Over on the TINP forums, we were trying to decipher the lyrics to the new sound clip on the start page. Since the forums are still down, I'll post here. After much Googling, I finally found this: Sweet Indiana Home. I found the title and credits but no lyrics, so here's what I can make out...please suggest corrections if you have any.

Sweet Indiana Home - Aileen Stanley, 1922
Music and Lyrics by Walter Donaldson

Now I know why I'm blue,
And I'm melancholy right through.
Every fortnight far away,
Seems to haunt me night and day.

Picture me, can you see,
Just how dog-gone happy I'll be?
Every night there's a candlelight
In all my dreams.

[INDENT]It seems I'm back in Indiana, Indiana
In my dreams I'm roaming through the shady (?) where I was born

I'm going back to Indiana, Indiana
Could anything be grander than to (drop me under?) through fields of corn
[/INDENT]
I miss that little homestead where the heart'll be fed on sunshine
I see a lady so fair in a rocking chair there alone
I'll leave tonight about eleven, I'll be in heaven
Tomorrow morn' at seven when I'm in my home, sweet Indiana home

1 o' clock, you'll find me in a lower berth
2 o' clock, I start to dream for all I'm worth
3 o' clock, we're stopping for a symphony
(Everybody's snorin' in a different key!)
4 o' clock, I'm tryin' to open up my eyes
5 o' clock, the Indiana sun will rise
6 o' clock, the engineer will give the alarm
7 o' clock, you'll find me in the [?]

[INDENT]I'm going back to Indiana, Indiana
Could anything be grander than to (chuck me under?) through fields of corn[/INDENT]

I miss that little homestead where the heart'll be fed on sunshine
I see a lady so fair in a rocking chair there alone
I'll leave tonight, about eleven I'll be in heaven
Tomorrow morn' at seven when I see my home, sweet Indiana home


I'm not even sure that the lyrics are relevant to the puzzle, but not knowing what they were was bugging me.
Drake Osiris • Mar 18, 2006 3:43 am
Yeah there's something else different about htat page now. I clicked on the face of the oven and it spawned a popup instead of heading to ASIA AWAITS, so I came here to investigate since the Soapbox is down. Anyone else notice the popup?

"Would you still love someone, even if they did something really terrible?"
Duey Oxburger • Mar 18, 2006 8:09 am
Great job with that song, Infectus! I tried a quick google, but no luck. I'll try to find a site with the lyric because I had trouble understanding the same parts you did.
Deius Infectus • Mar 18, 2006 11:23 am
Drake Osiris wrote:
Yeah there's something else different about htat page now. I clicked on the face of the oven and it spawned a popup instead of heading to ASIA AWAITS, so I came here to investigate since the Soapbox is down. Anyone else notice the popup?

"Would you still love someone, even if they did something really terrible?"


Yeah, here's a summary of the differences that we've noticed so far.
[LIST]
[*]The page title has changed from Something is Coming to Time's Changing, which ties in with the changing time in the lyrics of Sweet Indiana Home.

[*]Clicking on the face in the oven produces the pop-up "Would you still love someone, even if they did something really terrible?", instead of linking to the Asia Awaits page. In fact, there is no longer any link from the start page to the rest of the puzzle.

[*]The song Sweet Indiana Home plays intermittently with background noise that sounds rather unpleasantly like a baby crying. On the TINP forums someone discovered that a spectrogram of the sound clip is a picture of the album cover for Cherry Knowle, by the band Leatherface. Cherry Knowle is also the name of a mental health hospital in England.
[/LIST]


(BTW, thanks Duey. It took about three hours of solid Googling to find that clip!)
Duey Oxburger • Mar 18, 2006 1:35 pm
If this weekend is convenient, we should meet up in a chatroom to pool our ideas.

IRC: irc://irc.hack3r.com/tinp

or

AIM chatroom: TINP

I'll be idle in IRC all day. I'll check in every once in a while.
BASSsic • Mar 20, 2006 1:47 am
I have a band of slightly intoxicated cavaliers looking at the Aileen tune. I'm 95% sure it'll contain an image of some sort.

--

The lack of any links from the homepage means 2 things to me;

1) TINP, in light of all these problems, is shutting things down for a short while.
2 and more realisticly/hopefully) He's dropping a subtle little clue like this; 'THE NEXT BIT IS A URL CHANGE JA'HEAR!?' Like that.

There is a 2.5 as well;

2.5) He doesn't want any newcomers to play. But thats just racist.

--

Whats going on with the main forums? Again...

--

Hello Cellar, by the way.
SilverPhoenix • Mar 20, 2006 9:24 am
Hi folks!

I'm stumbling my way through setting myself up on a whole new compy, complete with learning a whole new OS.

(Oh, and nice work, Deius! :D )

[Edit: Nevermind, was trying to access a page that wasn't there.]
Mr. Ears • Mar 20, 2006 9:48 am
when i click on the oven, it goes to a different page but doesnt display it... does that happen to anyone else?
SilverPhoenix • Mar 20, 2006 11:57 am
It doesn't go anywhere else for me; it only gives the 'love someone' popup.

I believe the line is:
"In my dreams I'm roaming through the shady gloaming where I was born"
BASSsic • Mar 20, 2006 9:20 pm
Ok guys, the forum is sort of back, but I'm really sceptical about entering my password, the URL changes when I goto www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/ it loads www.ketadreams.com/forums/ which doesn't seem to load directly, a personal blog by the look of it. If someone else is just helping with hosting issues that is cool, but, any word?
Deius Infectus • Mar 20, 2006 9:24 pm
SilverPhoenix wrote:
I believe the line is:
"In my dreams I'm roaming through the shady gloaming where I was born"


I had to look it up, but I believe you are right. :) Nice work.
I figured out a few more parts as well.

Where I thought it sounded like "drop me under" it's actually "just meander."
Where I thought it was "we're stopping for a symphony" it's actually "we start to form a symphony."
I'm still stuck on the end of the "7 o'clock" line. :(

I'll edit my post above, and on the TINP forums as well.


[EDIT]
hmmm... I can't edit the post above with the whole song.
BASSsic, I found it too. There is a welcome back post by TINP and a note from priestx as well about the forum changing. If it's fake, I've been duped. :S
SilverPhoenix • Mar 20, 2006 11:42 pm
I think it's
"7 o' clock, you'll find me in my lover [Lenny's*] arms"

*It's a name, though whether she says 'Lenny' or 'Lemmy', or something else entirely (Henry?), I can't tell. [Edit: I'm pretty sure it's 'Lemmy'.]
priestx • Mar 21, 2006 12:05 am
Hello everybody!

This is your right hand admin, Chris Wallace a.k.a priestx. I am now hosting the forums on my webserver, and will be maintaining all the necessary things, database clean up, upgrades, etc. It's been on our minds for a while, and after the spyware incident it was unanimous to transfer it all over. I'm going to send out an e-mail about the entire ordeal just to help clarify somethings up.

Thanks,
priestx [not PriestX ;]
Deius Infectus • Mar 21, 2006 12:22 am
I think I've got it, SP.

"7 o'clock you'll find me in my loving mammy's arms."

That pretty much finishes it, I think. Here's the full song, completed.

Sweet Indiana Home - Aileen Stanley, 1922
Music and Lyrics by Walter Donaldson

Now I know why I'm blue,
And I'm melancholy right through.
Every fortnight far away,
Seems to haunt me night and day.

Picture me, can you see,
Just how dog gone happy I'll be?
Every night there's a candlelight
In all my dreams.

It seems I'm back in Indiana, Indiana
In my dreams I'm roaming through the shady gloaming where I was born

I'm going back to Indiana, Indiana
Could anything be grander that to just meander through fields of corn

I miss the little homestead where the heart'll be fed on sunshine
I see a lady so fair in a rocking chair there alone
I'll leave tonight, about eleven I'll be in heaven
Tomorrow morn when I see my home sweet Indiana home

1 o' clock, you'll find me in a lower berth
2 o' clock, I start to dream for all I'm worth
3 o' clock, we start to form a symphony
(Everybody's snorin' in a different key!)
4 o' clock, I'm tryin' to open up my eyes
5 o' clock, the Indiana sun will rise
6 o' clock, the engineer will give the alarm
7 o' clock, you'll find me in my loving Mammy's arms

I'm going back to Indiana, Indiana
Could anything be grander than to just meander through fields of corn

I miss that little homestead where the heart'll be fed on sunshine
I see a lady so fair in a rocking chair there alone
I'll leave tonight, about eleven I'll be in heaven
Tomorrow morn' at seven when I see my home, sweet Indiana home
priestx • Mar 21, 2006 12:41 am
Deius Infectus wrote:

..PS, the TINP forums time out for me all of a sudden.


I hope not, 48 people knocking down one 100gb bandwidth server? Blasphemy!

Keep watching and reporting.
Deius Infectus • Mar 21, 2006 12:50 am
priestx wrote:
I hope not, 48 people knocking down one 100gb bandwidth server? Blasphemy!

Keep watching and reporting.


It did that for a couple of minutes and then I got back in. Sweet.
Mr. Ears • Mar 21, 2006 9:54 am
so uh, where are the forums at?
BASSsic • Mar 21, 2006 10:10 am
priestx wrote:
Hello everybody!

This is your right hand admin, Chris Wallace a.k.a priestx. I am now hosting the forums on my webserver, and will be maintaining all the necessary things, database clean up, upgrades, etc. It's been on our minds for a while, and after the spyware incident it was unanimous to transfer it all over. I'm going to send out an e-mail about the entire ordeal just to help clarify somethings up.

Thanks,
priestx [not PriestX ;]


Cheers for that mate.
Duey Oxburger • Mar 21, 2006 3:55 pm
Thanks priestx. A link to the forums would be nice though (PM me if you don't want everyone to have it for some reason). :)

EDIT: Duh. That's what I get for skimming over posts.
Deius Infectus • Mar 21, 2006 7:53 pm
Psst...a link has already been posted in this thread, and quite recently too.



1001
Mr. Ears • Mar 23, 2006 9:05 am
[CODE]mySQL query error: SELECT * FROM ibf_cache_store WHERE cs_key IN ( 'chatting','birthdays','calendar','rss_calendar','rss_export','components','banfilters','settings','group_cache','systemvars','skin_id_cache','forum_cache','moderators','stats','languages' )

SQL error: Table 'fxhaven_ipb.ibf_cache_store' doesn't exist
SQL error code:
Date: Thursday 23rd of March 2006 08:54:16 AM[/CODE]

i get that error when i try to go to the forums...
SilverPhoenix • Mar 23, 2006 12:21 pm
Mr. Ears wrote:
{code-snip}
i get that error when i try to go to the forums...


Ditto; it's been down most of the morning, if not longer.
priestx • Mar 23, 2006 7:04 pm
Servers got moved, some databases got corrupted, will get it up by tomorrow!
Deius Infectus • Mar 23, 2006 7:35 pm
Hmmm...now the start page of the puzzle just says
this is a placeholder for the subdomain tinp.krisboruff.com

All of the other pages of the puzzle are still up though.
discordant_harmony • Mar 23, 2006 10:09 pm
Juat as a random thing...I Googled Kris Boruff and came up with this page:

http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=185447/

It amused me...you know, the axe thing.
PizzaMonkey • Mar 24, 2006 7:55 pm
How do you decode the barcodes? And Who is that picture of? Man, Mr. TINP is good at ASCII art...
PizzaMonkey • Mar 24, 2006 8:04 pm
Oooh oooh! And in ShovelThatGoodSnow, There is something in that black window in front. I manipulated it every which way, but I can't make it out.
Also on A perfectly Common Accident there is some Greek text over to the side of the house, blended in really well.

sorry Old News
Kagen4o4 • Mar 24, 2006 9:33 pm
the black window says "not reproaches to 639 by 59" i think those are the numbers...
not repoaches being an anagram of another corpse.
the greek says something about married to the dolphin.

the ASCII art is of blase vigenere. hence the urls vig.htm and near.htm
Duey Oxburger • Mar 24, 2006 10:37 pm
PizzaMonkey wrote:
[...]Man, Mr. TINP is good at ASCII art...
Sorry to take away from Mr. TINP's greatness, but take a look at this site :p
http://www.degraeve.com/txt2gif.php

EDIT: This is the correct link: http://www.degraeve.com/img2txt.php
PizzaMonkey • Mar 25, 2006 9:37 am
I know Greek, Just I cant see it well enough on my retarded glass monitor.
PizzaMonkey • Mar 25, 2006 9:41 am
Also, I've been reading DDD, and there are references to WOEBEGONE, and SNOW.

There is something about the Hotel being as woebegone as a dog in the rain or something like that. It's the only time that word was used in the book.

There is also quite an obsession with snow, shoveling snow, snowstorms...

Edit: And I was just looking around on the rest of the site, the background sound on HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME? is a forest ambience slowed waaaaay down. Record it and speed it up about 700% in Sound recorder and you'll hear it.

Edit: And the reference to Photomosaics on that page with the windmills and the circles could refer to how each image loads in slices. I only know that they load that way because of my horrid 56k dialup. Finally, it becomes helpful... Anyway, I'm going to try speeding up other ambience sounds on the site, see what I get.

Another Edit: Man, I'm becoming like wavinator! See:
Wavinator Posts

Anyhoo, what's the signifigance of 'Another corpse'? I haven't finished DDD yet...

Still another Edit: Also I remember someone saying that the text under the avatars on the official forums were anagrams... Anyone remember when Mr. TINP posted here? Remember his sig? "I taste Metal"... could it be an anagram? I don't know, I'm REALLY bad with them.
PizzaMonkey • Mar 25, 2006 10:07 am
Image

the Marken Lighthouse, managed by the IJsselmeer area dictoriate,

Tower Height: 51

Height of Focal Plane: 53

Characteristic and Range: White flash every 8 seconds, visible for 9 nautical miles.

Description of Tower: White conical brick tower, attached to a two-story dwelling.


This light is operational


Earlier Towers?
1700: Square stone tower (demolished in 1839).

Date Established: 1700

Date Present Tower Built: 1839

Date Automated: 1990

Current Use: Active aid to navigation.

Open To Public? Grounds only.

You never know when this stuff will come in handy...

PS: Wow three posts in a row!!! don't ban me!!!

And I think we're about due for another compilation af page locations and usrnames/pwds
discordant_harmony • Mar 25, 2006 12:41 pm
It's so cool that you are lloking and finding all this stuff. Having new people excited in the puzzle is refreshing, simply because we know we aren't in so deep and that others can come in with new ideas.

However, there is some stuff you mention and wonder about that we have already figured out. It gets repetative and a bit annoying when you ask questions that have already been answered. Try going back through this thread and reading all the posts (which is a hefty task, but we've all done it). Maybe you'll gain a greater understanding than what you have now.

Again, though, this is awesome that you are doing all this. I mean, the more people we have working on the problems, the more likely we are to figure things out.
PizzaMonkey • Mar 25, 2006 4:58 pm
Oven Page is back up.

I have no mouth.", "And I.", "must scream."

Really old, I was reading the posts and I immediately recognized this as an old-school Resident Evil Type game that I am quite fond of. See page 12.
Deius Infectus • Mar 25, 2006 10:44 pm
This is strange:
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/ redirects to
http://www.ketadreams.com/forum/ which is currently down (priestx, are you working on getting the forum back up?)

But,
www.thisisnotporn.com/forums (without the slash) redirects to
http://www.krisboruff.com/forums/ which gives a 404 message.
http://www.krisboruff.com/ exists, but it is an empty page.
Duey Oxburger • Mar 26, 2006 7:43 am
krisboruff.com has always existed. I can't remember if it was just a re-direct to thisisnotporn.com or not.

And I noticed the same things you did, Deius. That's why I had trouble getting the URL of the new forums, because I was typing it without the slash.
PizzaMonkey • Mar 26, 2006 2:06 pm
That song... Was it always the oven page's sound?

When I hear it, I hear that baby noise, but there is also the constant sound of flowing water, and what sounds to me like a chainsaw. More a circular saw, actually. And it'll cut out with a radio static noise and come back in a few seconds later. In each of these 'radio pauses', the 'background sound' can be clearly heard, either the "saw", or the "baby" (which sounds more like a fly to me).

This guy is way too obsessed with water. Its a little disturbing.
PizzaMonkey • Mar 26, 2006 2:18 pm
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

If this hasn't been posted before, I MAY HAVE FOUND PART OF OUR ANSWER.
In the help me I'm drowning popup's source code is a set of dates and times. I'll get them.
Duey Oxburger • Mar 26, 2006 7:54 pm
PizzaMonkey wrote:
That song... Was it always the oven page's sound?

When I hear it, I hear that baby noise, but there is also the constant sound of flowing water, and what sounds to me like a chainsaw. More a circular saw, actually. And it'll cut out with a radio static noise and come back in a few seconds later. In each of these 'radio pauses', the 'background sound' can be clearly heard, either the "saw", or the "baby" (which sounds more like a fly to me).

This guy is way too obsessed with water. Its a little disturbing.
Please, please, please, please read the rest of this thread. This topic is mentioned only two pages back complete with lyrics, title, artist and a site where you can download the song.
SilverPhoenix • Mar 27, 2006 8:34 am
PizzaMonkey: I have echoes of discordant_harmony and Duey both: it's great to see new folk so excited about this stuff... but you -REALLY- need to read back through the thread to see what everyone's already discussed.

Case in point:
PizzaMonkey wrote:
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

If this hasn't been posted before, I MAY HAVE FOUND PART OF OUR ANSWER.
In the help me I'm drowning popup's source code is a set of dates and times. I'll get them.


June 6, 2005; 11:38:00AM. It's been there since the beginning (two years ago). Any current relevance? -That-, we don't know.
PizzaMonkey • Mar 27, 2006 10:36 am
I read the whole thread now, but the bubbling water sound was not mentioned,nor was the saw noise. Also, I just forgot about the date thingy. This 60-something page thread is a lot to digest. :D

Edit: I also just got some of my friends to check it out: It's only a matter of time now, if we can't solve it with brains, we'll solve it by sheer numbers. With everyone contributing different ideas (don't worry about any more annoying repetitive posts, I didn't tell them about the thread) we might be able to solve this thing. Current count of recruits: 12
PizzaMonkey • Mar 27, 2006 11:04 am
About the so-called Vigenere code, Vigenere doesn't use numbers, which the codes in TINP have. Vigenere is a set of alphabets, set up by a key word. For example, if the keyword is Knock, a table fo vigenere code would look like this.

-->(nocode) ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
-->(code 1) KLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJ
-->(code 2) NOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLM
-->(Code 3) OPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMN
-->(Code 4) CDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZAB
-->(Code 5) KLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJ

You'd then code the phrase like this:
First letter: use the letter corresponding to T in the first alphabet
Second letter: use the letter corresponding to H in the second alphabet...
etc. etc...

Maybe the numbers signify a change to a different alphabet, but then what is the keyword? we need to know that, or else, we can't arrange the alphabets correctly. Or each "alphabet" could actually be alphanumeric.
SilverPhoenix • Mar 27, 2006 11:05 am
PizzaMonkey wrote:
I read the whole thread now, but the bubbling water sound was not mentioned,nor was the saw noise. Also, I just forgot about the date thingy. This 60-something page thread is a lot to digest. :D


It is indeed :D Most of us have been reading since way back, rather than being saddled with nearly 70 pages worth of info (or mis-info as the case may be) all at once.

I believe you're right about the 'saw' noise, though I could swear someone in the last couple pages mentioned the water. (edited before posting: nope. Hm.)

At one point there were about 40 dedicated regulars (who actually posted and shared, at any rate); I think it's died off to just under 15 die-hards. Good on ya for bringing in a crop of fresh blood.

Edited after posting: Which TINP codes are you referring to? The earlier ones have been deciphered; the possibly Vigenere ones are only on Vig.htm and Near.htm. Also, the saw noise is apparently what makes up the spectrograph of Cherry Knowle (have been listening while typing).

Second (third?) edit: I didn't hear any 'water'-type noises. Shall have to pay more attention next listen. {eta: nevermind, I hear it now. Hm, again.}
Kagen4o4 • Mar 27, 2006 6:18 pm
PizzaMonkey wrote:
About the so-called Vigenere code, Vigenere doesn't use numbers, which the codes in TINP have. Vigenere is a set of alphabets, set up by a key word. For example, if the keyword is Knock, a table fo vigenere code would look like this.

-->(nocode) ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
-->(code 1) KLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJ
-->(code 2) NOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLM
-->(Code 3) OPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMN
-->(Code 4) CDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZAB
-->(Code 5) KLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJ

You'd then code the phrase like this:
First letter: use the letter corresponding to T in the first alphabet
Second letter: use the letter corresponding to H in the second alphabet...
etc. etc...

Maybe the numbers signify a change to a different alphabet, but then what is the keyword? we need to know that, or else, we can't arrange the alphabets correctly. Or each "alphabet" could actually be alphanumeric.


the fact that the long code of capital letters appears directly above a huge picture of vigenere suggests that we need to use the vigenere method to decode it. we have tried MANY different words for the key and have still been unsuccessful. instead of rearranging the alphabets like above, have you looked for programs that decode the string for you after imputting a key?
PizzaMonkey • Mar 28, 2006 9:57 am
Kagen4o4 wrote:
have you looked for programs that decode the string for you after imputting a key?


I was thinking that the gibberish photoshopped into the pictures of the house - like 'kw3x754w3rt - whatever' may be vigenere code, but the format isn't right. And that's a good Idea. Just downloaded VBVigenere. Thank god my school lets me on the internet instead of going to gym.
/lazy bums of america plug

It's also a good thing we have outlook so I can send things to my AOL account at home.

Maybe we could try 'Vigenere' or 'Blaise de Vigenere' as the key?

AND... PAGE 70!!! W00t! w00t! *throws a funky dance par-tay.*

Remind me - I couldn't find the page after reading it - how did you guys solve the code in the Lighthouse and/or candle pic?
SilverPhoenix • Mar 28, 2006 11:49 am
PizzaMonkey wrote:
I was thinking that the gibberish photoshopped into the pictures of the house - like 'kw3x754w3rt - whatever' may be vigenere code, but the format isn't right. And that's a good Idea. Just downloaded VBVigenere. Thank god my school lets me on the internet instead of going to gym.

The gibberish from the window is [CODE]Ml6 8vk8lzxsv7
6l GDJ yl FJ,[/CODE]turned upside-down and backwards. It decodes to [CODE]Ml6 8vk8lzxsv7 6l GDJ yl FJ,
Not reproaches to 639 by 59.[/CODE] using the following key and rules:

[CODE]ABCDEFGHIJklm.!
zyxwvutsrqpon,?
0123456789

In a given ciphertext:
Characters (letters or puncuation) from the top or middle rows are substitutions for those in the opposite row.
Capital letters represent numbers (A-J == 0-9), unless they're at the beginning of a sentence (such as the M=N in the window text).
Numbers represent the lowercase letter above them.
[/CODE]

Maybe we could try 'Vigenere' or 'Blaise de Vigenere' as the key?

Viggy keywords can't have spaces in them (otherwise that's a good idea). It was one of the first things I tried, but VBV may give a different/better result than the program I've been using.

I couldn't find the page after reading it - how did you guys solve the code in the Lighthouse and/or candle pic?

The second to last post in page 11 on this thread has a decent explanation; if you need more details PM me.
PizzaMonkey • Mar 29, 2006 8:29 am
:D Okay now that I'm all caught up- I can be useful
SilverPhoenix • Mar 29, 2006 8:35 am
Sounds like a plan.

...so, uh.. any ideas? :p
PizzaMonkey • Mar 29, 2006 8:37 am
sun and Death's htm filename is FindTheDate... Maybe we need to set our system clocks to "the date" in order to answer? That would be a huge leap, even if we didn't actually know the answer.
SilverPhoenix • Mar 29, 2006 8:48 am
Possibly; however, that would take a (probably) javascript-based system check ( {var thisdate = new Date();}, or something similar ), which isn't called anywhere in the source that we've seen so far, except on TheBoy.htm--which is an incomplete script to begin with.

Also, what date do you suggest? There are between 15 and 20 dates right on the photos--the immediate one that comes to mind is on date.jpg... the one(s) inside the /6/ light could be it too, though.

I'm sorry to be playing devil's advocate, here--you have some good suggestions, I just can't think of a good way to implement them.
PizzaMonkey • Mar 29, 2006 8:54 am
the first thing that came to my mind was the D-day anniversary. And you never know what hidden super-triple-encrypted-programs this guy might have.

And could someone screencap that spectrogram of Cherry Knowle? I don't know how to get a spectrogram thingy.

Edit: And also, with each keyword I try, i get some coherent words, they even almost seem to fit together, and then the rest is gibberish.
SilverPhoenix • Mar 29, 2006 9:18 am
on the contrary--there's only one way for {any programs he's got} to do anything with the date on my computer, and that's through a form submission (hidden or not) that feeds some sort of actual data back to his server. The only < form > on the site is on the homepage, and all it does is... well, nothing.

CDUniverse has a decent writeup about CK; the spectrogrammed image is a black-and-white version of the cover, with all text removed.

A possible start point for keywords: try finding ones that are 9, 12, or 18 letters long (the longer gibberish text is divisble by those three).
Mr. Ears • Mar 29, 2006 10:02 am
PizzaMonkey wrote:
Edit: And also, with each keyword I try, i get some coherent words, they even almost seem to fit together, and then the rest is gibberish.


you know, maybe he's got a point... if we could just piece together the words maybe it'd form something... then again maybe not..

what happened to the whole gotanda death thing in tokyo or whatever? i thought that was where the answer lied?

oh and werent the forums supposed to be back up?
priestx • Mar 29, 2006 11:16 am
Deius Infectus wrote:
This is strange:
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/ redirects to
http://www.ketadreams.com/forum/ which is currently down (priestx, are you working on getting the forum back up?)

But,
www.thisisnotporn.com/forums (without the slash) redirects to
http://www.krisboruff.com/forums/ which gives a 404 message.
http://www.krisboruff.com/ exists, but it is an empty page.


Let this be a lesson to you all, never trust you web host.

ETA: [edit] Well I get to the old TINP db.. bear with me, I know you are already, but I understand how it is to be told "hold on" when you're already there.
Mr. Ears • Mar 29, 2006 1:20 pm
priestx wrote:
ETA: [edit] Well I get to the old TINP db.. bear with me, I know you are already, but I understand how it is to be told "hold on" when you're already there.


:3_eyes: what?
priestx • Mar 29, 2006 2:49 pm
We're getting it back up now :lol:
Mr. Ears • Mar 30, 2006 9:48 am
so is your idea of getting it back up deleting it? cuz it says it doesnt exist anymore...
SilverPhoenix • Mar 30, 2006 10:12 am
Mr. Ears, the forums have moved from the tinp.com servers to priestx's place--the new address is http://www.ketadreams.com/forum/ (well, it will be when they're back up, unless px changes something in the meantime).
Mr. Ears • Mar 30, 2006 1:17 pm
i know that, i'm just saying that, that website says its been deleted
PizzaMonkey • Mar 30, 2006 2:16 pm
Mr. Ears wrote:
i know that, i'm just saying that, that website says its been deleted


You hould know by now to never trust anything that happens on or having to do with TINP.
:lol:

*page 71 dance*

Edit: I'm not trying to revive the idea that the date may be being checked, but there is a call on a variable from TheBoy.htm in ths Scandinavian Imports page.
PizzaMonkey • Mar 30, 2006 2:39 pm
dabraa brupta bsciss eabsin tabsol vereab strakt absurd abraka aceton adacta
adhoca diafor aadlib itumad renali nadund asadve ntaffi niteta gentro managi
oagnus deiaim abelak antusa krosti konaks iomaks jonakt ørakut talarm aleksa
ndrine ralena lfaalf onsali asalib

Browsing the "wreathus" page. (By googling Ijsselmeer, tragedy, boy) this looked kind of wierd to me.

also:

don't want traces, two kinds: erasing, not attaching, truth?, what am offf
0xff?, truth?, can't stand writing, this is just memo, displacing, displeasing,
unbroken, the cat eats dog food but the bowl is broken?, the something is
constructed, a set up for the upset, chain reactions and escalation, is there
less truth in that?, unbroken chains, neural islands, the something sea, i'm
lost already responses, communication doesn't have to trace, refer, like
plucking a string, resonance intstrument autophone, 'what does it mean?', with
language it's too easy, pulcking a synthesizer, bridging, immediacy, traces are
bugging him, there's no connection, the something, i'm an idiot 'drome, cat eat
dog food, the leaves don't communicate directly (or at all), human phylogeny,
cell's protection, i'm total loss compression set, prepositions don't work,
spacetime points, blow is broken, how can titt eat?, i don't know the score,
planning points in time, this is a mess, it's all very simple, screech, if i
are not hear things would still be the mase, the clear morning dew, hi, heat my
fles, it's not esy, how can i be writing siht, dog food, fresh rain, i'd rather
not tirew, i'll code some nuff instade, that's no soluble either, still have to
vile, my ideal file would be complete tutti sole not needing to any finger, not
thinging, ok heath, but from tharea, I want some darnthing, or to pee, enjoy
the quiet sunsations of formatting, rally yeasy, this writing miss frodulent
even to mih, what's the a bruptlem? brodkorp?

The whole page is creepy gibberish. If anyone hasn't seen it yet, it is at:
http://noemata.net/wreathus/w75.txt
at
http://noemata.net/wreathus/

There is an ARCHIVE of pages like it!
SilverPhoenix • Mar 30, 2006 2:48 pm
Mr. Ears wrote:
i know that, i'm just saying that, that website says its been deleted


I still get an "IPS Driver error" page.

PizzaMonkey wrote:
Edit: I'm not trying to revive the idea that the date may be being checked, but there is a call on a variable from TheBoy.htm in ths Scandinavian Imports page.


Which one? "MM_popupMsg(''+(new Date()){...}"? That's a JS routine that's native to that particular page--it pops up a JS alert with the current day and time as registered on your computer, plus the phrase "De jongen zal alleen sterven." ("The boy will die alone.") I don't think there's any major significance here; it's just one more way "We" (the various pages) "AreConnected" : )

Also, TheBoy closes itself (or at least it's supposed to) less than a second after it opens. In order for any variables it set to be accessed by another .htm, it would have to have a {self.name='';} property (I believe that's the one) for the outside page to refer back to, and it would have to remain open long enough for said other page to be able to grab the variable.

Nice observation, though--I'd forgotten that Date() was called there :redface: ; it's likely worth another intense search to see if there's anything else the vets know so well that we've dismissed it.
PizzaMonkey • Mar 30, 2006 2:49 pm
Watch your step however, there may be links to nasty content. There was a page that just repeated f*** me over and over
XRedBlazeX • Mar 30, 2006 8:45 pm
PizzaMonkey wrote:
sun and Death's htm filename is FindTheDate... Maybe we need to set our system clocks to "the date" in order to answer? That would be a huge leap, even if we didn't actually know the answer.

I really don't think this would have any effect, as many of us were actually working on this riddle on that date. Somewhere in this thread there's probably more information about that, and if not there will be at the TINP forums when they come back.



priestx wrote:
but I understand how it is to be told "hold on" when you're already there.

...what?



PizzaMonkey wrote:
the first thing that came to my mind was the D-day anniversary. And you never know what hidden super-triple-encrypted-programs this guy might have.

The anniversary of D-Day, Sweden's Flag Day, a couple other things occur on this date...



PizzaMonkey wrote:
And could someone screencap that spectrogram of Cherry Knowle? I don't know how to get a spectrogram thingy.

There was one, or a link to one, but again: I don't know if it's here or at the TINP forum.



SilverPhoenix wrote:
At one point there were about 40 dedicated regulars (who actually posted and shared, at any rate); I think it's died off to just under 15 die-hards. Good on ya for bringing in a crop of fresh blood.

Silver's right, though I think both his estimates are a little too high.
Mr. Ears • Mar 30, 2006 9:20 pm
PizzaMonkey wrote:
dabraa brupta bsciss eabsin tabsol vereab strakt absurd abraka aceton adacta
adhoca diafor aadlib itumad renali nadund asadve ntaffi niteta gentro managi
oagnus deiaim abelak antusa krosti konaks iomaks jonakt ørakut talarm aleksa
ndrine ralena lfaalf onsali asalib

Browsing the "wreathus" page. (By googling Ijsselmeer, tragedy, boy) this looked kind of wierd to me.

also:

don't want traces, two kinds: erasing, not attaching, truth?, what am offf
0xff?, truth?, can't stand writing, this is just memo, displacing, displeasing,
unbroken, the cat eats dog food but the bowl is broken?, the something is
constructed, a set up for the upset, chain reactions and escalation, is there
less truth in that?, unbroken chains, neural islands, the something sea, i'm
lost already responses, communication doesn't have to trace, refer, like
plucking a string, resonance intstrument autophone, 'what does it mean?', with
language it's too easy, pulcking a synthesizer, bridging, immediacy, traces are
bugging him, there's no connection, the something, i'm an idiot 'drome, cat eat
dog food, the leaves don't communicate directly (or at all), human phylogeny,
cell's protection, i'm total loss compression set, prepositions don't work,
spacetime points, blow is broken, how can titt eat?, i don't know the score,
planning points in time, this is a mess, it's all very simple, screech, if i
are not hear things would still be the mase, the clear morning dew, hi, heat my
fles, it's not esy, how can i be writing siht, dog food, fresh rain, i'd rather
not tirew, i'll code some nuff instade, that's no soluble either, still have to
vile, my ideal file would be complete tutti sole not needing to any finger, not
thinging, ok heath, but from tharea, I want some darnthing, or to pee, enjoy
the quiet sunsations of formatting, rally yeasy, this writing miss frodulent
even to mih, what's the a bruptlem? brodkorp?


:eyebrow: so... how much acid was this guy on when he wrote this?
priestx • Mar 30, 2006 9:56 pm
PizzaMonkey wrote:
You hould know by now to never trust anything that happens on or having to do with TINP.
:lol:

*page 71 dance*

Edit: I'm not trying to revive the idea that the date may be being checked, but there is a call on a variable from TheBoy.htm in ths Scandinavian Imports page.


It's back up guys, and I've made a large back up to the back up so this never happens again. Who wants to update the new clue topics on the forums?
SilverPhoenix • Mar 31, 2006 8:34 am
XRedBlazeX wrote:
Silver's right, though I think both his estimates are a little too high.


Both numbers probably are high, especially the '15' (it's probably closer to 10). I'd say the max-at-once is no lower than 30, more likely 35, based on the fact that I have 25 people on my TINP-related AIM buddylist, and there were more than that at one point but I deleted them by their own request when they moved on from TINP. Also at the height, there were also a number of people who were active on one forum or another that either never gave out their AIM name or never used it for tinp'ing. :D
ChutneyClavos • Mar 31, 2006 5:15 pm
Hi, I'm new to this experience. I have spent some time studying the source on the first page, but it appears there are no links to any other page. I've tried in Firefox and IE. IE 6 yields javascript errors. There is a hidden form with no action, and of course the javascript popup. Do I need to hex-edit the tinp.swf to find a link or something? Does this require special software?

How does one start this? Has the author closed "registration?" The forums on tinp are also gone.
Duey Oxburger • Mar 31, 2006 9:22 pm
For some odd reason, there is no link to the rest of the puzzle from the first page. You used to be able to click the middle of the oven and that would take you to the next page referred to as "Asia Awaits". I don't have the URL for that page, but maybe someone else does. If we give you that URL, then you can continue with the rest of the puzzle like all of us have.


EDIT: here is the URL you would usually get when you click on the oven. http://www.thisisnotporn.com/not/not.htm
priestx • Mar 31, 2006 10:26 pm
ChutneyClavos wrote:
Hi, I'm new to this experience. I have spent some time studying the source on the first page, but it appears there are no links to any other page. I've tried in Firefox and IE. IE 6 yields javascript errors. There is a hidden form with no action, and of course the javascript popup. Do I need to hex-edit the tinp.swf to find a link or something? Does this require special software?

How does one start this? Has the author closed "registration?" The forums on tinp are also gone.


It's now on a different host, www.ketadreams.com/forum/

The only person TINP related on my buddy list, is TINP.
priestx • Mar 31, 2006 10:26 pm
Also, I'm getting weird redirect problems, anyone else?
atari • Mar 31, 2006 10:28 pm
I just found out that a friend of mine made it waaaayyyy past the last light. She said she was going to go back to TINP and refresh her memory on the matter, but given that the site's clearly under construction, it won't happen for a while, at least. :(

Big YAY and then big OHNO
priestx • Apr 1, 2006 1:00 am
:(
Duey Oxburger • Apr 1, 2006 8:32 am
priestx wrote:
Also, I'm getting weird redirect problems, anyone else?

Yes, I'm getting the same problems. It's usually solved if I just copy and paste the URL into the Adress Bar.
SilverPhoenix • Apr 1, 2006 8:45 am
atari wrote:
I just found out that a friend of mine made it waaaayyyy past the last light. She said she was going to go back to TINP and refresh her memory on the matter, but given that the site's clearly under construction, it won't happen for a while, at least. :(

Big YAY and then big OHNO


She can find the lights page at http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/SM.htm, if she just needs to get back "in".
atari • Apr 1, 2006 9:03 pm
Thanks a bunch SilverPhoenix! I just sent it off to her now. Hopefully it'll come back to her. :D
I.Am • Apr 2, 2006 1:32 am
I'm terribly sorry, I'm slightly too impatient to go through all the back pages just now (Though I have read many)... Has anyone been to the index page recently? I haven't visited TINP at all in a long time, and tonight I just sort of randomly thought about it, and I went there, and there is no longer any link to the page with the riddle about Alexander... Instead, there is a pop-up when you click the oven face that says "Would you still love someone, even if they did something really terrible?"... Also, the background track has been changed.

Sorry if I'm repeating what someone else has already said... I'll probably start going over the previous pages tomorrow... Perhaps I'll get back into the wuzzle...
priestx • Apr 2, 2006 10:55 pm
We have as much of a clue as you do, truthfully.
zerhynn • Apr 2, 2006 11:05 pm
The TINP forum too is down, so I am led to actually believe that the site has been taken down completely except for the first page which apologizes for the site going down.

I am starting to believe that this marks the end of the reign of mystery of TINP, and it is gone =/
atari • Apr 2, 2006 11:13 pm
Not so: as said before, the forums have a new URL.

http://www.ketadreams.com/forum/index.php?act=idx
atari • Apr 4, 2006 7:10 pm
SilverPhoenix wrote:
She can find the lights page at http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/SM.htm, if she just needs to get back "in".


She's been working on it, and she can't remember how to get past, but she does know that the answer's in A WILD SHEEP CHASE.
PizzaMonkey • Apr 5, 2006 3:24 pm
It's over, it was beaten. Some guy. His name's on the forums.:(
Duey Oxburger • Apr 5, 2006 3:58 pm
PizzaMonkey wrote:
It's over, it was beaten. Some guy. His name's on the forums.:(

You know, that was an April Fool's joke.
atari • Apr 5, 2006 7:17 pm
Besides, it wouldn't be over. If it was true, we'd track him own and torture him until we got answers!
PizzaMonkey • Apr 11, 2006 11:49 am
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol:
PizzaMonkey • Apr 12, 2006 11:52 am
:worried: C'mon Thread! Don't die on me now!!!
glatt • Apr 12, 2006 12:17 pm
So it's been a year and a half since I worked on the puzzle.

Did you guys ever get to the end?
PizzaMonkey • Apr 12, 2006 4:52 pm
Erm... No. :help:

Edit: As is said on the official forums - I think it would be a good time to start making sense of those walls codes. They may help. The status on the link into Sun and Death said "The walls are closing in."

More Edit: Maybe a list of code keys would be helpful here?
Kagen4o4 • Apr 13, 2006 5:24 am
im gonna sit back and let the new blood do some stuff. im tired
PizzaMonkey • Apr 14, 2006 5:54 pm
Evil.
:rar:

Page 73
Drake Osiris • Apr 17, 2006 11:28 am
Does anyone have a link to an online version of Wild Sheep Case yet? I tried Googling but I gave up on it when all I got was bookstore sites.
Mr. Ears • Apr 17, 2006 10:03 pm
sooo... any new breakthroughs yet?
Duey Oxburger • Apr 19, 2006 8:26 am
Drake Osiris wrote:
Does anyone have a link to an online version of Wild Sheep Case yet? I tried Googling but I gave up on it when all I got was bookstore sites.

I don't have any link bookmarked for that book, but I own the paperback version of it. If there's anything specific you want me to look up, I can.
Deius Infectus • Apr 19, 2006 6:27 pm
Better yet...buy the book. You won't be disappointed. It's a great read.
PizzaMonkey • Apr 20, 2006 5:15 pm
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...

Crystal C. Prince Bloomington, IN

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Notice that the Kristian on the list is from Indiana... Maybe...

Hey, I just had an idea!

The old phone number led to INDIANA... There is a Kristian Borruf in GARY INDIANA. A Kristian Boruff on the Dean's List is INDIANA the song on the first page is "Sweet INDIANA Home"... I don't know what it could be, but maybe it's relevant.
Drake Osiris • Apr 20, 2006 10:45 pm
You might be on to something there, Pizza.

Deius Infectus wrote:
Better yet...buy the book. You won't be disappointed. It's a great read.

Would if I could, Deius. But, I'm broke as all hell.



And while I know it was figured out that the ARE YOU THE FIRST? question leads back to the previous page, did anyone ever figure out why it says that? I doubt this is important to anything but it's been bugging me for a few hours now.
PizzaMonkey • Apr 24, 2006 11:43 am
ARE YOU THE FIRST person to beat this damn game?
PizzaMonkey • Apr 24, 2006 11:55 am
I think that we ought to list everything we came up with for sun and death up 'till now.

BREAKING NEWS:
When I try to get into the Ketadreams Forums, it gives me an HTTP 403 (forbidden)... PRIIEEEESSSST--EEEEEXXXXX!!! GET OVER HERE!!!
PizzaMonkey • Apr 24, 2006 12:27 pm
I put random letters into the viggy cipher, and got the word TRADITI... probably part of tradition and then STUPIDLY forgot what the key was that i put in to continue it.:mad: :rar: :rar: :rar:
PizzaMonkey • Apr 24, 2006 12:30 pm
I PUT SOME RANDOM LETTERS THROUGH THE VIGGY CODE AND GOT "TRADITI" Maybe part of Tradition? but then i forgot what the code was and erased it and cancelled!!! What i did was used random letters, then typed in PART OF the result I got, and ran it through again. BUT I MESSED UP AND IT WILL NOT BE SEEN AGAIN FOR A LONG, LONG TIME!!!

EDit: whoops. logically if I did that, it would just spit the keyword back out, I must have used TRADITION as the keyword and not have known it.
PizzaMonkey • Apr 25, 2006 11:18 am
Sorry about the double post. My EDIT button pulled a Houdini.
Forums are back.
Mr. Ears • Apr 26, 2006 9:55 pm
that wasn't a double post... it was more like a quintuple post
PizzaMonkey • Apr 27, 2006 4:13 pm
Well sor-ry for my mathematical inferiority Mr. Ellipsis. :lol:
I read that Vigenere Code, as we call it, was falsely attributed to Blaise de Vigenere. If someone could find the code that he REALLY made, I'd be eternally grateful.
Floatyhead • May 4, 2006 10:49 pm
Hey everyone. I just found something, but I don't know if there's any significance or not.

On www.krisboruff.com, there's a lot of information about what appears to be a movie. About INDIANA. (more references to Indiana...?)

If some people would look into this, it'd probably be good, but I'll try to see if I can figure out what the point of it all is.
Mr. Ears • May 7, 2006 9:25 pm
so, did anyone in DDD do something really bad and then someone else had to decide if they still liked them or not?
Piazzolla • May 10, 2006 6:37 pm
OK guys ive been working on this puzzle as long as yall have and i had taken a break for a couple months looks like light six has been cracked and the codes to be found on them. I decided i would toss in my two cents. You know how on the first page with the oven you click and it says "Would you still love someone, even if they did something really terrible?" I think that this could be a reference to Dance Dance Dance. Not to give anything away but, the movie he goes to see repeatedly that has Kiki in it is titled Unrequited love. And when doing a google search on the sentence it brings up many sites that mention things along the line of unrequited love. Dont know if it has any revelence just decided to throw it out there. BTW its nice to join the team, and see that movement has not stopped.

Edit: Also the lyrics on the pop up before Lonely Susan is Song lyrics for Sad Lisa By Cat Stevens. dont know if that was realized before also has

aadbre odndl Ihxbit ntwl ehte seh nhtw ntthnn wrewpcthl n tctap slnnb heed te letw ntttodpt

from the page source been figured out? if so i havent seen it. (sorry if it has i must have overlooked something.)
Piazzolla • May 10, 2006 7:03 pm
SilverPhoenix wrote:
The fuzzy barcode has been figured out (at last :). It reads "Another corpse does a 350-40." and is here: http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=finaldecode9ay.gif if you'd like to see for yourself.

So. We have "[does a] 350-40", and "to 639 by 59". 'Another corpse', interestingly, only appears in Dance at the beginning of chapter 40 (though it's page 360, rather than 350).



About the 350-40 you say its on page 360 but if you take 350-40 you get 10 then add it back to the 350 you end up with 360. Lol just a quick glance at things sorry if its annoying.
PizzaMonkey • May 15, 2006 11:05 am
Probably no longer relevant -but -
Gregor Samsa is a fictional character in The Metamorphosis, a novella by Franz Kafka in which Samsa tries to live his life after having been transformed into a large insect creature. He is a travelling salesman. Contrary to popular belief, the author never states that Gregor Samsa was transformed specifically into a cockroach. Samsa's last name is the author's in substitution cipher form. If the S's are replaced with K's, and the M with an F, you get Kafka. Gregor Samsa had to come to terms with the realization that he was no longer human and his life had and would change dramatically. His family was now no longer a part of him and he had to move on and accept that not only his change but the change that his family had to go through also. It was not him that had the only transition, he got to do for himself and his family had to begin supporting themselves.

Thank Liz L. For that.

NOT MORE BARCODES!!!
Kagen4o4 • May 16, 2006 2:33 am
PizzaMonkey wrote:
Probably no longer relevant -but -
Gregor Samsa is a fictional character in The Metamorphosis, a novella by Franz Kafka in which Samsa tries to live his life after having been transformed into a large insect creature. He is a travelling salesman. Contrary to popular belief, the author never states that Gregor Samsa was transformed specifically into a cockroach. Samsa's last name is the author's in substitution cipher form. If the S's are replaced with K's, and the M with an F, you get Kafka. Gregor Samsa had to come to terms with the realization that he was no longer human and his life had and would change dramatically. His family was now no longer a part of him and he had to move on and accept that not only his change but the change that his family had to go through also. It was not him that had the only transition, he got to do for himself and his family had to begin supporting themselves.

Thank Liz L. For that.

NOT MORE BARCODES!!!


how do you think we got the last light to open?
PizzaMonkey • May 16, 2006 10:14 am
Kagen4o4 wrote:
how do you think we got the last light to open?

I understand that, but what about the substitution ciphered name?
PizzaMonkey • May 17, 2006 10:03 am
Leaving Indiana is also by devil in the sun... maybe it willcontain hints.
PizzaMonkey • May 18, 2006 9:02 am
Also (sorry - triple post, my edit button's gone again...) Murakami wrote a book called "Kafka on the Shore" Franz Kafka is the author of "The Metamorphosis"... Maybe we should go there?
Kaiser • May 18, 2006 11:41 pm
Hello. I'm new to the forum as you can tell by my post count n' what not.

I am also very well familiar with this site as I spent most of last summer on www.thisisnotporn.com. Now I have dicided to get back into it once again, and what I have noticed is that there is now music on the main page. Does anyone know what song that is? It has a catchy tune to it, and I'd like to get hold of it somehow.

NVM got it. Read through most of the pages on this site disreguard this post
PizzaMonkey • May 22, 2006 1:20 pm
Okay people, we NEED to take a different approach to this. nothing we've done is working for us. Try to post your ideas for ideas for us to use here.
discordant_harmony • May 22, 2006 11:22 pm
I think the biggest thing right now is to look for the key to the code(s), possibly something in the songs. Has someone gone through and tried all these songs/bands/etc.?

Have we figured out the really terrible quote?

And where is Soapbox? I mean, I remember when the site went down anv then putting it on another site...but what is it again?
Mr. Ears • May 24, 2006 9:16 pm
its at www.ketadreams.com/forum/index.php
discordant_harmony • May 25, 2006 12:53 am
Thanks!

*hugs and sends much love*
PizzaMonkey • May 26, 2006 9:27 pm
Could those numbers mean anything? You know, on all of the pages with ARE YOU THE FIRST? on them, there are numbers.

CuriosityKilledTheCat 73
Master And Betrayer 54 bold
Dorothy and Scarecrow 23
FACEOF, what darkness do we live 999
Frankenstien now, Yuki's bird 1107
Audition, Death of a traveling salesman 2371
PizzaMonkey • May 27, 2006 11:51 am
Tell the admin to fix the edit buttons...

Well. The Main character in DDD was reading Kafka's The Trial, too.
SilverPhoenix • May 31, 2006 7:23 am
Mr. Ears wrote:
so, did anyone in DDD do something really bad and then someone else had to decide if they still liked them or not?


That happened at least once--between the protagonist and Yuki, after June the call-girl visited him at the Hawaii hotel. I keep thinking there's another time it occurs between the same pair, but I can't find it.

However. Going back to "350-40"... in the online version, page 350 through Chapter 40 is the "bar convo" between the protagonist and Gotanda, which from Gotanda's side is summed up by his line, "You really think you can forget I killed Kiki?"... his feelings are, very clearly, '[Will] you still [like me], even if [I] did something really terrible?'
Mr. Ears • May 31, 2006 8:56 pm
so has anyone tried Gotanda as the key?
Rapscallion • Jun 1, 2006 7:24 pm
You mean as the vignere key? Lots of people (me included) have tried pretty much every significant location, character, and event from DDD.
Kagen4o4 • Jun 1, 2006 7:38 pm
we need a clue from the bug man.
Mr. Ears • Jun 2, 2006 2:03 pm
has anyone yet put the song on the main page through a spectograph or whatever its called?
Kagen4o4 • Jun 2, 2006 7:30 pm
i googled "knots wiki" because i was looking up the speed in knots and the first link was the wikipedia definition about the Gordian Knot
123456 • Jun 4, 2006 10:26 pm
Ages ago I quickly moved though several pages of this puzzle. But now I cannot even get to the first page. I remember that simply clicking the oven took me to the first puzzle page, but now it seems I an wrong. How the hell do I get to the first puzzle page?
Duey Oxburger • Jun 5, 2006 8:16 pm
123456 wrote:
Ages ago I quickly moved though several pages of this puzzle. But now I cannot even get to the first page. I remember that simply clicking the oven took me to the first puzzle page, but now it seems I an wrong. How the hell do I get to the first puzzle page?

For some reason, the link to "Asia Awaits" was taken off the front page. The only way to get there is from this link: www.thisisnotporn.com/not/not.htm
Kagen4o4 • Jun 5, 2006 8:52 pm
damn music hasnt stopped when i shut down the site.
PizzaMonkey • Jun 28, 2006 9:19 pm
C'mon, let's resurrect this thread!!!!
PizzaMonkey • Jun 28, 2006 9:20 pm
SilverPhoenix wrote:
That happened at least once--between the protagonist and Yuki, after June the call-girl visited him at the Hawaii hotel. I keep thinking there's another time it occurs between the same pair, but I can't find it.

However. Going back to "350-40"... in the online version, page 350 through Chapter 40 is the "bar convo" between the protagonist and Gotanda, which from Gotanda's side is summed up by his line, "You really think you can forget I killed Kiki?"... his feelings are, very clearly, '[Will] you still [like me], even if [I] did something really terrible?'



BEAUTIFUL SP!!!!

PS: Bug man???
Ellzoshi • Jul 15, 2006 5:32 pm
Yay! I finally got my account activated to post here. Iv'e been trying to solve this stuff for soo long... It's been really helpful reading some of the tips here when stuck :)

Im just curious if anybody has gotten farther then that brownish house page, Iv'e been stuck there for months, I can't figure out how to get any farther...

The one thing I did do in the mean time though was read up on The Wind Up Bird Chronice, Hard-Boiled Wonderland, and I read Dance Dance Dance again. Im not sure how relevent this is, and if it's been brought up before but could the 7 lights represent the seven deaths/skeletons in DDD in some way? It seems like each page seems to follows a character theme. For example, the MYEYESAREBURNINGHEL page references Gotanda quite a few times I beleive, and the latest page reminds me alot of that handicapped guy (forgot his name) who lived on that house near a beach or something.

Also, again I dont know how relevent this is, but doing a google image search for Thisisnot porn brings up some odd pictures Iv'e never seen before on the site. There mostly warning-style signs that say odd things like:

Your Sonar Hurt Me

Giant Fire Molests Man

GET OFF MY PLANE!!! etc.
Mr. Ears • Jul 16, 2006 10:07 pm
those are the avatars for post rankings
Hajik • Jul 18, 2006 2:46 pm
I don't talk in this thread much, but I follow it for the most part. But I was wondering if anyone had noticed this patch of the image from the the tree page, the one linked off the hallway of lights. But I was just browsing it and I noticed an interesting section in it. Appearently it was it's own .jpg too because when I saved it, it saved only that part of it and not the whole thing. But my picture editing progams aren't that great, so if anyone would like to take a crack at it please do.

(orginal picture)
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i94/Redwall_Jackson/treeface_01.jpg

(edited pictures)
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i94/Redwall_Jackson/treeface_01_3.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i94/Redwall_Jackson/treeface_01_2.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i94/Redwall_Jackson/treeface_01_3_edited.jpg
Drake Osiris • Jul 21, 2006 8:00 am
That was found before, a long time ago.

Quote the tree: "HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF SOMEONE CAME ALONG AND PICKED SOMETHING OFF OF YOU?"

And you know, reading through the entire thread is actually less troublesome if you have your account set to view as many posts per pae as possible. In doing that, I only have 19 pages in this thread that i have to dig through.
maykasahara • Oct 1, 2006 7:11 pm
Im new on this forum, but I have been working on TINP for about a year now.
I've gotten to mostly where all of you are at. But I strongly recommend readin most of Haruki Murakamis books. They Help out alot with clues and uns/pws. I've read DDD and WSC; but also read The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle, Hard Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World, and Kafka on the Shore. They help out alot!!
atari • Oct 10, 2006 1:12 am
Really? The only ones I've found particularly useful with TiNP were A Wild Sheep Chase and Dance Dance Dance. The rest haven't come up.

Although I loved Kafka on the Shore. Great book.


On the TiNP forums, some new possible leads have come up. Mary Queen of Scots (and crownswordscepterm, a translation of one of the barcodes) and Phantom of the Opera are popular ones.
Idlehumor • Oct 13, 2006 4:33 am
atari wrote:
Really? The only ones I've found particularly useful with TiNP were A Wild Sheep Chase and Dance Dance Dance. The rest haven't come up.

Although I loved Kafka on the Shore. Great book.


On the TiNP forums, some new possible leads have come up. Mary Queen of Scots (and crownswordscepterm, a translation of one of the barcodes) and Phantom of the Opera are popular ones.


The TINP forums are back up? if so, what's the new link? cause the old one (http://www.thisisnotporn.com/forums/index.php?act=idx) doesn't work.
atari • Oct 14, 2006 2:53 am
http://www.ketadreams.com/forum/index.php?act=idx

I think it's being hosted by PriestX now or something.
Matney X • Oct 16, 2006 10:33 am
New blood here... tons of posts to go back through.

I was wondering if anyone has any sort of Excel file on TiNP? I'm probably going to start one, and if anyone's interested in sharing let me know.

Atari, you're right, it's PriestX that's hosting the new forum.
Matney X • Oct 16, 2006 4:50 pm
Lordy... I've read up to page 66 today. You guys have done A LOT of work. I can't believe your dedication.

Hopefully I'll be able to help out once I get caught up.
Tzachitx • Oct 23, 2006 6:33 am
Hey, i'm sorta new to TiNP... i played NotPron for a while but found it kinda boring and repetative... TiNP seems a bit more challenging and creepy, so i thought i'd give it a try.

Unfortunately, i'm kinda stuck. Like, already (yeah, i probably aren't cut out for this).

The first level has changed according to many people on the web, and no-one seems to have the solution for the new one, and there is physically nothing i can do to solve it...

You all may not have seen the first page for a while, but it's now something called "Time's Changing". The picture is of an oven in the middle of a field, with a glowing sign in the window. There is an old song playing in the background, with the sound of a baby crying over the top of it. I found out that the baby crying is actually the audio version of the soundwave that is on the cover of the album the song is on, though that doesn't seem to help...

There is only one link on the page, and that's the sign in the window of the oven. When you click it, it produces a window with the text "Would you still love someone, even if they did something really terrible?", which returns naff all on Google. In the source code it all seems kosher except for something non-code saying "CUT AND CUT AND CUT", which according to the code prior, is a status message that should appear on mouseover of something, yet there is nothing to mouseover, and a direct reference to Dante Alighieri's "The Inferno" in the form of "<input name="Beware" type="hidden" id="Beware" value="Abandon hope, all ye who enter here">"

Beware, hidden, Beware, Abandon hope, all ye who enter here.

None of that stuff is anywhere in the page. I know it was said at the start of this thread that answers were not going to be given, but i just need something to get me started. Can this page even be solved? Or is it some attempt at shutting the project down?

Sorry for the huge post, and thanks in advance for any help.
Mr. Ears • Oct 24, 2006 8:56 pm
uh, normally when you click on the oven page it would lead into the next step of the game... but it's currenty being used for another part of the puzzle... the link is here:
http://www.thisisnotporn.com/not/not.htm
Frenger • Oct 27, 2006 8:08 pm
hello all. im new to the forums here, but ive been working on TIMP for a while. where im at is after the page with the lights, on the first light theres a tree, then a house, then you click the window and you get a different shot of the house. here are my theories adn developments:

first, as you progress through the two pictures of the house its as if youre walking around the house. i doubt its relevant.

second, on the second picture of the house, in the window there are some characters that i revealed in photoshop. they are as follows:

m(possibly n)6 9vk8lzxsvj(possibly i)
6lGDly1ll

i cant decipher it, but i havnt tried too hard...

finally, in the source code there are a ton of wierd characters and i put it in some thing that makes pictures out of stuff like that (it was posted somewhere in the 60's of pages, but it looked like a globe.

im not sure what this really means, but i hope its a relevant development!!!
PizzaMonkey • Oct 28, 2006 4:52 pm
MY THREAD'S BACK WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
Mr. Ears • Nov 1, 2006 7:35 pm
and when did it leave?
atari • Nov 7, 2006 12:56 am
Frenger wrote:
hello all. im new to the forums here, but ive been working on TIMP for a while. where im at is after the page with the lights, on the first light theres a tree, then a house, then you click the window and you get a different shot of the house. here are my theories adn developments:

first, as you progress through the two pictures of the house its as if youre walking around the house. i doubt its relevant.

second, on the second picture of the house, in the window there are some characters that i revealed in photoshop. they are as follows:

m(possibly n)6 9vk8lzxsvj(possibly i)
6lGDly1ll

i cant decipher it, but i havnt tried too hard...

finally, in the source code there are a ton of wierd characters and i put it in some thing that makes pictures out of stuff like that (it was posted somewhere in the 60's of pages, but it looked like a globe.

im not sure what this really means, but i hope its a relevant development!!!


That stuff in the window translates to "Where did he drop his axe, Vignere?

I think the weird characters you're talking about are an ascii picture of Blaise Vignere, unless you're talking about different characters.
Gamegirl • Nov 12, 2006 12:07 pm
Well, I found out a few things (mainly on the robot silvers page).
If you hover over all five circles from left to right, (use IE) the corner of the page where it says "done" will turn to five words, one per circle.

We Live As We Dream...

Then, I combined four sentences. I hovered over the two middle windmills and got What was that all about? and Did I kill Kiki?

Then, I used the sentences on the page where you clicked the date.

I got: What was that all about? Did I kill Kiki? There was nothing I could do. He had disappeared. Mabye that relates somehow?

Then, I found something else. On the page with the car, the rollover thing with the tractor says a life half lived. At the time, I was researching The death of a traveling salesman. It turns out, that is the name of a play with the salesman dying at the age of 60. That sounds like a life half lived!

Well, that's all I found. I hope it's useful.
Gamegirl • Nov 12, 2006 1:29 pm
**NEW**

http://www.geocities.com/vanillapudding26/

Bunches of info of this, including the answer to the death of a traveling salesman!!
Eco Master • Nov 12, 2006 8:24 pm
Hey, first post, but I've been really interested in TINP, as so with my sister (who happens to be GameGirl).

Well, last night, we both spent a good while trying to do research to find the answers to "Audition, Death of a Traveling Salesman" and "Frankenstein now, Yuki's Bird", believing this is where the world was stuck.

We were wrong >_>

But I do have two questions. What time were these virus-containing e-mails sent?

And when was the front page changed and have we found out how we are supposed to proceed normally now?

So what? Three questions. I was close >_>
Rapscallion • Nov 13, 2006 1:06 am
Regarding how we're supposed to proceed: I don't think anyone has solved anything with Vignere decryption, so that's probably what should happen next.
Eco Master • Nov 13, 2006 1:20 am
Mm, well I am planning on taking notes of everything that has not contributed so far as to solutions, and we can see if anything shows up.

If I'm not completely lazy >_>
atari • Nov 17, 2006 3:05 am
FYI you guys:

The front page is working again! We still have the music, and the little "Would you still love someone..." popup, but it goes to the next page!
Jolouie • Nov 17, 2006 5:28 am
After running the sound on the front page through a spectograph, and the sound on the Robert Silvers page, I found something quite interesting.

http://a.photos.cx/TINP-aaf.jpg

They are the same image for both pages.

I don't know what it means, but maybe one of us knows.
xfenrysx • Nov 17, 2006 12:43 pm
So we're all stuck on the brown house, right?

Just making sure noones getting ahead of me.

Has anyone translated the

aadbre odndl Ihxbit ntwl ehte seh nhtw ntthnn wrewpcthl n tctap slnnb heed te letw ntttodpt

Out of the source code?
Mr. Ears • Nov 17, 2006 6:59 pm
two questions will be answered shortly
Eco Master • Nov 19, 2006 7:19 am
Say, why not get spectrograms of all the pages, if you haven't already? Maybe we'll find something!
Rapscallion • Nov 20, 2006 7:59 am
Oh, to Jolouie: I searched for spectrograph on cellar.org and came up with a mention of a Cherry Knowle spectrograph image on page 69, though i couldn't find exactly when it was found. Anyway it's an image of this:

http://www.musicobsession.com/Pictures/l/e/leatherface340249.jpg
Gamegirl • Nov 20, 2006 1:36 pm
teeny-tiny thing #1: A moth flew in when I di4d.
obviously a typo, seeing that "e" is in under "4"

teeny-tiny thing #2: About firefox (internet browser)
Using Firefox, I put the TINP link in the link bar. An Icon appears for every link (like the cellar is a purple C). The icon for TINP (Time's changing.) is that Graffiti face that you get after the frankenstien now, yuki's bird username and password. I wonder why...
Image
:neutral:
Rapscallion • Nov 20, 2006 3:51 pm
Gamegirl, thanks for identifying that icon! I've been wondering what it was for months, and it was right in front of me the whole time. I don't think it means anything though.

Has anyone found any clues listening to that Cherry Knowles album? Maybe connections to Cat Stevens, The Band, or dropping an axe?
Gamegirl • Nov 20, 2006 7:48 pm
Image

At first, I thought it was a bookcase. It's numbers and letters possibly flipped.
Mr. Ears • Nov 20, 2006 9:50 pm
could you maybe alter the contrast on it? it's really hard to see... or it may just be that i'm blind :D
Rapscallion • Nov 21, 2006 7:56 am
We've done that already. Gamegirl, have you read the thread yet? If not, I strongly suggest you do or else you'll be repeating things for days.
Thisisnotporn • Nov 21, 2006 8:17 am
Hello,

This is Kristian Boruff, again.
Do you have unanswered questions about the website?
I'll make you a deal.
I'll answer any two questions you want in exchange for something.

That something is a video interview.

I'm making a documentary about the website, and I need your help.

I want to interview you via webcam. The streaming video will be recorded and incorporates into the movie.

Yahoo: Kristianboruff
MSN: [email]Kristianboruff@hotmail.com[/email]
Skype: thisisnotporn


If you don't feel comfortable talking to me directly, I have a solution for you. You can submit videos through megaupload, yousendit, or one of the other free upload services.

Please submit video links to [email]porn@thisisnotporn.com[/email]


If you've wanted to talk to me or see what I really look like, now's your chance.
And to reiterate, I'll answer ANY TWO questions you have about anything.
There is only one catch: I need the videos soon. I can only accept them for the next two weeks. That's until December 2nd. So if you want to help out, the clock's ticking.

You don't have to answer any of these that you're not comfortable with.

The Questions:
1.What's your name?
2.Where are you from?
3.What's your age?
4.What's your schooling?
5.What is your cultural background?

6.How did you find the site?
7.What interested you about the site?
8.How long have you been at the site?
9.What do you feel is most important in life?
10.What do you fear the most?
11.What is your secret?
12.Who else knows it?
13.Would you forgive someone you loved, even if they did something really terrible?

When making a video, keep in mind, this is your moment to tell me about yourself. I have some guide questions that I need answered, but outside that you can tell me anything you want.


Please only submit video links to [email]porn@thisisnotporn.com[/email], I can't use the typed answers in the film.


For requesting a date, please visit http://www.ketadreams.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1071

Due to response I'm giving you my calendar for the next two weeks to schedule an interview. Please check the link to see if the dates are still available.

My Calender of availability* is as follows:

Tuesday Nov. 21 1:00-8:00 pm MST
Wednesday Nov. 22 3:00-8:00 pm MST
Thursday Nov. 23 12:00 - 3:00 pm. MST
Friday Nov. 24 12:00 - 3:00 pm MST
Saturday and Sunday all day
Monday - Not available
Tuesday Nov. 28th 12:00 - 3:00 pm MST Then 6:30 PM - 9:00 PM MST
Wednesday Nov. 29th 12:00 pm - 8:00 pm MST
Thursday Nov. 30th 12:00 - 3:00 PM. MST Then 6:30 PM - 9:00 PM MST
Friday Dec. 1st 12:00 PM - 5:00 PM MST


*Note these times are when I'm available, not always when I'm here. If you want to do an interview please contact me with a TIME, USERNAME, AND CHAT CLIENT want to schedule for.

Also, just to make it clear, times are in US Mountain standard time, you can google to check time difference.

Interviews will be 15 minutes to a half an hour, longer if your really funny.

-Thanks
Gamegirl • Nov 21, 2006 11:25 am
Rapscallion wrote:
We've done that already. Gamegirl, have you read the thread yet? If not, I strongly suggest you do or else you'll be repeating things for days.

Oh, Whoops xD.
Rapscallion • Nov 21, 2006 7:06 pm
There's a short film that either came out or will come out this year called Soleil et la mort voyagent ensemble. It was directed by Frank Beauvais and might be relevant.

Edit: I just found this: I took all the dates in the corner of the pictures and averaged the possible ones ("idle tuesday"/"summer" didn't work) and came up with June 6, 1985. I wasn't following any leads, just trying to make sense of the dates. Anyway, I haven't found anything helpful on that date, but the fact that June 6th makes another appearance is very interesting.
Drake Osiris • Nov 23, 2006 10:44 am
Gamegirl wrote:
teeny-tiny thing #1: A moth flew in when I di4d.
obviously a typo, seeing that "e" is in under "4"


Not nessecarily a typo, for all any of us knows that may have been deliberate.
Thisisnotporn • Nov 23, 2006 3:16 pm
UPDATED AND SHORTER

This is Kristian Boruff, again.
Do you have unanswered questions about the website?
I'll make you a deal.
I'll answer any two questions you want in exchange for something.

That something is a video interview.

I'm making a documentary about the website, and I need your help.

I want to record an interview with you on webcam.

Yahoo: Kristianboruff
MSN: [email]Kristianboruff@hotmail.com[/email]
Skype: thisisnotporn


If you don't feel comfortable talking to me directly, you can submit videos of yourself answering the interview questions. I can accept files up to 2 gbs in size at: http://dropbox.yousendit.com/thisisnotporn

If you've wanted to talk to me or see what I really look like, now's your chance.

There is only one catch: I need the interviews soon. I can only accept them for the next two weeks. That's until December 2nd, so the clock's ticking.

The Questions:
1.What's your name?
2.Where are you from?
3.What's your age?
4.What's your schooling?
5.What is your cultural background?
6.How did you find the site?
7.What interested you about the site?
8.How long have you been at the site?
9.What do you feel is most important in life?
10.What do you fear the most?
11.What is your secret?
12.Who else knows it?
13.Would you forgive someone you loved, even if they did something really terrible?

When making a video, keep in mind, this is your moment to tell me about yourself. These questions are guides not rules. After basic information you can tell me anything you want about yourself.

My Calender of availability is as follows:

Thursday Nov. 23 12:00 - 3:00 pm. MST
Friday Nov. 24 12:00 - 3:00 pm MST -shooting location footage, contact for time
Saturday and Sunday all day - before noon best but can do later
Monday - Not available
Tuesday Nov. 28th 12:00 - 3:00 pm MST Then 6:30 PM - 9:00 PM MST -Shooting on location
Wednesday Nov. 29th 12:00 pm - 8:00 pm MST -shooting on location
Thursday Nov. 30th 12:00 - 3:00 PM. MST Then 6:30 PM - 9:00 PM MST
Friday Dec. 1st 12:00 PM - 5:00 PM MST

Please contact me to schedule a time.

All times are in US Mountain standard time, you can go here to see what my local time is and what my weather is like if you want to know for some reason.
Undertoad • Nov 23, 2006 3:27 pm
Please put "thanks to cellar.org for not deleting the thread" into the end credits.
RachelXCore • Jan 18, 2007 10:42 pm
So kids... im new at this... and its scaring me... i dont know if that is normal... but i am on the My Eyes Are Burning Hell page... im not sure where to go because there are so many links... does anyone want to help me?
MadMeister • Jan 25, 2007 3:02 pm
Hey

I´m new here... and I´ve been reading the posts... and the posts on about, 32 page are somewhere after the posts at page 50 in the resolution of the game...

and I wonder:

somewhere in this trhead anyone, ever decoded the vigenére code?

and one thing I´ve never saw mentioned:

in the "MY EYES ARE BURNING HEL" page, there´sa a link who leds you to the "THE CURSE OF THE MASERATI" page.

But "MASERATI" is missing a "T"

in the page:


http://www.thisisnotporn.com/DM/inthedarkness/4/Sorrows%20of%20Werter.htm

there´s in the url "sorrows" and "werter" what, I suppose, refers to the book Werther, by Johann Wolfgang Goethe. But Werter is missing an "H".

I think "hel" it´s just cause it´s missing a "L" in "hell"

"Where did he drop his axe, vignere?", missing an "E" on Vignere.

wasn´t it possible that all the missing letters that are hidden are an anagram for the key of the code?

(sorry for the big post.... and I hope you understand all cause my english is not fantastic..)
MadMeister • Jan 25, 2007 3:03 pm
RachelXCore...

I hope someone come here...

did you see that the last post is from 2001???
MadMeister • Jan 25, 2007 3:06 pm
ups


sry



I was idiot :P
MadMeister • Jan 25, 2007 3:07 pm
Someone... we´re waiting for you...
glatt • Jan 25, 2007 3:18 pm
MadMeister;310304 wrote:
Someone... we´re waiting for you...


Have you noticed that months go by between posts in this thread?
MadMeister • Jan 25, 2007 3:21 pm
yeah... but I have hope though...

do you do TINP?

if yes, you can help me in this... and that would be faster than months... =D
glatt • Jan 25, 2007 4:07 pm
MadMeister;310307 wrote:
yeah... but I have hope though...

do you do TINP?

if yes, you can help me in this... and that would be faster than months... =D


I haven't in over two and a half years, and I never inhaled.
RachelXCore • Jan 25, 2007 9:38 pm
i am so lost... i cant get past the my eyes are a burning hell... i dunno if this page is a dead end... but im way lost
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 27, 2007 2:11 am
MadMeister, RachelXCore, it's been pretty quiet for a while. If you can't find what you need by reading through the thread, pick out some names and click on them. Go to their public profile and look at "Contact Info" in the upper right side of the page. Under email, if it says "send a message via email to whoever", do it. Tell them you're looking for help. Can they help or tell you who to contact. Ask them if they are still playing and if not here, where?
Hey, can't hurt. :D
fargon • Jan 27, 2007 4:19 am
I don't know, there is lots of nudity and stuff here, www.cuteoverload.com shouldn't this be porn.
RachelXCore • Jan 28, 2007 8:49 pm
im about to give up
xX_duckie_Xx • Jan 28, 2007 8:58 pm
Wow it has been awhile since I played TINP, or posted here.

Should I start playing again? I mean it has to of been updated by now *stopped after the creator announced he hadn't continued the game yet*
RachelXCore • Jan 31, 2007 3:22 pm
yeah you should and help me!!
SilverPhoenix • Feb 1, 2007 7:18 am
RachelXCore, MadMeister, you should both feel free to email me (as xoBruce suggested) with any TINP-questions you may have, at least concerning as far as we've gotten. I believe the 'email me' option is enabled on my profile, or you can use my yahoo IM name @ yahoo.com.
racer4536 • Feb 2, 2007 5:50 pm
Weird........
Duey Oxburger • Feb 11, 2007 6:20 pm
Any idea what's wrong with the official forums? Did priestx take them down?
Kagen4o4 • Feb 22, 2007 11:18 pm
BOO!!!!

ok guys where are you up to. ive been out of the loop for a while so any updates would be nice.

how you all doing anyway. i see some familiar faces so im guessing this thing still hasnt ended
SilverPhoenix • Feb 23, 2007 8:37 am
Duey, the official forums are at http://www.ketadreams.com/forum/.

Hiya, Kagen.
RachelXCore • Feb 23, 2007 3:36 pm
im stuck on a moth flew in the room when i di4d
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Duey Oxburger • Feb 25, 2007 9:00 am
SilverPhoenix;317908 wrote:
Duey, the official forums are at http://www.ketadreams.com/forum/.

Hiya, Kagen.


Ah, thanks SP. I only had the redirect from thisisnotporn.com/forums bookmarked which stopped working.
SilverPhoenix • Mar 9, 2007 1:47 am
For those playing along at home, it's time to change bookmarks yet again: the official TINP forums are now at http://www.fnoird.com/b/ (the ketadreams address redirects, but for how long is uncertain).

To the main batch of Cellarites: thanks for putting up with us for so long. ^_^ The main puzzle of TINP has been revealed, so unless the headmaster decides to build a new one from scratch, chances are this thread is now going to fade quietly into the background. I for one will be quietly lurking in dark corners of the Cellar, but it's pretty rarely that I'll rear my ugly mug to actually say much.
juuhanna • Mar 17, 2007 3:51 am
So what, has the whole site been taken down now? :(
Deius Infectus • Mar 18, 2007 10:12 pm
juuhanna;323816 wrote:
So what, has the whole site been taken down now? :(


It's only down temporarily.
See here for the official word.
Kagen4o4 • Mar 19, 2007 2:44 am
damn it i spent so much time and effort on this thing, i need closure!!!
atari • Apr 4, 2007 1:31 am
Ohhh man you guys, check out the other riddle-oriented posts on Kris Boruff's blog. Download his notes. SO MANY ANSWERS ANSWERED. I'm moderately insulted that he thinks that hinting wouldn't suffice - he just gave us answers. Although, the real puzzle is reading his writing. :P

He actually gives us the key for the THTTHEHSNAGNTONAH... in his notes. What pisses me off is that we've tried it before. Sad? YESYES. Good for our progress, though.

I'm going to go progress now.


EDIT: btw, Mary Queen of Scots is correct!
Thisisnotporn • Apr 17, 2007 12:50 am
I lost control of the domain to a company called Biglizarddomains.com. So, unless they are a reseller the website is gone. I might get a new one, but until then stay posted here. I'll be updating with a link to the documentary soon.
Thisisnotporn • Apr 20, 2007 8:14 pm
Now at stoveinafield.com
Happy Monkey • May 30, 2007 9:03 am
[youtube]2ldUJthYbl4[/youtube]
Undertoad • May 30, 2007 10:53 am
I told him to put "thanks for not deleting the thread" in the credits but it looks like he didn't.
Thisisnotporn • Jun 1, 2007 9:07 pm
Undertoad;348537 wrote:
I told him to put "thanks for not deleting the thread" in the credits but it looks like he didn't.


Dude, I am sorry. I made those credits at 3 in the morning the night before it was due. I couldn't remember the exact details but I made sure to thank the site. :/ sorry.
Undertoad • Jun 2, 2007 9:02 am
That's OK, you asked me to call you up and I never did, being anti-social and whatnot
ViscountAlpha • Jan 15, 2008 5:36 am
I love it. It started out as a hoax and then turned into a puzzle which started working against him. Kristian, you sir get big props for pulling that off.

I would of done one thing different, I would of asked for donations and then sold shirts.
Janoodles • Feb 15, 2009 6:10 pm
To revive the dead...
The site now currently exists at thisisnotapuzzle.com
toranokaze • Feb 23, 2009 1:44 pm
Ok I'm stuck at the password and user name.

I have found the Alexander poem and have tried will die by the sword, Alexander and Gordian with almost any combination I could find but still... nothing.

help:mecry:
Clodfobble • Feb 23, 2009 4:48 pm
There were official forums at one point for people working on the puzzle, linked to somewhere back in the thread... I don't know if they're still there though, if the whole domain has moved.
Matney X • Oct 22, 2012 9:15 pm
Kristian Boruff recently got thisisnotporn.com back from whatever cyber squatter was keeping it from him. Expect a new puzzle there in the future (I'm honestly not sure if there's one there, now.)

Also, there's a FB group that Kristian often posts in, here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/63484746072
glatt • Oct 22, 2012 9:34 pm
Web pages come and go, but the Cellar abides.
BigV • Oct 22, 2012 9:37 pm
Thx brah
Stormieweather • Oct 23, 2012 11:33 am
Nice!
Matney X • Oct 23, 2012 4:49 pm
No problem. I'm sure I'll be lurking this thread a bit as I go through the old puzzle (I'm finally going to read Dance, Dance, Dance.)

Speaking of the old puzzle, it's hosted here: thisisnotapuzzle.com
Getgo • Oct 23, 2012 4:59 pm
Madge Was Her Name.



Please Wait Here.
jimhelm • Oct 23, 2012 5:02 pm
I like the music.

now what?
jimhelm • Oct 23, 2012 5:11 pm
YellowBolt;107896 wrote:
Username: Alexander
Password: Gordian

Should I be making it this easy for you?


ok, that didn't work. did it change, or were you lying?
footfootfoot • Oct 23, 2012 6:51 pm
Alexander Gordian? The great knot?
BigV • Oct 24, 2012 1:57 pm
LOL
Clodfobble • Oct 24, 2012 6:43 pm
Matney X wrote:
(I'm finally going to read Dance, Dance, Dance.)


Once a marketing ploy, always a marketing ploy.
Chen • Jul 19, 2013 4:20 pm
footfootfoot;835422 wrote:
Alexander Gordian? The great knot?


User:alexander
Pass:gordianknot
Chen • Jul 19, 2013 4:29 pm
Now i'm on the page after those numbers (i just clicked on the globe of the truck)
When ever i mouse over the sign it come up with "What a marvelous shape"
Luckily chrome allowed me to disable any messages from the webpage so i could click on the sign without the pop up message. The page loads up another login with the words "what a lovely drape they make". Oh btw Kristian Boruff... didn't hey used to work for machinima? Help me out here I'm stumped
glatt • Jul 19, 2013 4:37 pm
Hi Chen, welcome to the Cellar.

I had forgotten all about this thread.
BigV • Jul 19, 2013 4:39 pm
It LIVES!!!!

Hello Chen, welcome to the cellar. I hope you like it here, I hope you find some (other) interesting stuff to talk about. Because our "This is not porn" activity has been... dormant for some time now. That makes you the de facto leader. ONWARD!
InfiniteIce • Nov 5, 2013 7:09 pm
So, did nobody notice that thisisnotporn.com is back, and the puzzle is brand new? Or am I missing a hidden thread.

Getgo;835407 wrote:
Madge Was Her Name.
Please Wait Here.
This guy o0n noticed. I've progressed one step past the Madge was her name page. If there is any interest I will post up hints or steps to what ive found, whatever cellarians like. I did post a picture of what i found on ([Insert fast unmodded retarded imagedump site), and it seems nobody had seen it yet o maybe I am the first. Probably not though ;)
pyrephoenix • Nov 6, 2013 10:41 am
InfiniteIce, I've seen a couple mentions of "the next page" cropping up here and there, so I've been trying to dig for it myself. So far the only Madge I've found related to 'something terrible' has been the girl in the Hunger Games, but I'm not having much luck relating it to tinp.

----------------
Offtopic: I'm SilverPhoenix from previously in the thread; I lost my yahoo email account long ago and can't convince PTB that I'm me.
BigV • Nov 6, 2013 11:26 am
I love this thread. It's like listening the live SETI feed piped through Stephen Hawking's voice processor after being translated by Google translate's Speak-N-Spell ---> Swedish Chef.
InfiniteIce • Nov 7, 2013 6:05 am
Alright. so I think I've found the first clue to part 2.

I obviously know how I got this. Do you? Will update in a bit.

http://i.imgur.com/5sLp8CT.jpg
(Too big to embed)).

Yes, this was acquired from TINP.

Also, the colors don't matter.
InfiniteIce • Nov 7, 2013 8:28 am
Here's how I figured out/got this.

The sound/song playing on the page is tinp.wav in the source. It took me a few days to wonder why he would use a .wav, the filesize is so huge, and this file does not need to be lossless...i was going to see what the encoder info was. Maybe it was just named wav because of compatibility with his webhost or something. So I downloaded it. Why would he server a 33MB wav file..?

Open it up in a spectral analyzer to create a spectrogram. Any DAW like Audition or Ableton will do this if you have one, but if you don't, there are free ones but they aren't as nice to look at, change colors, or zoom as much. Audacity is a free DAW.

If you JUST want something free and fast to show the spectrals and never plan to do any kind of audio getting, get "Spek" or "Spectro" (two different programs) from www.spek.cc & spectro.enpts.com respectively. I have used both, they are safe and work fine.

You'll see a bunch of 'sound waves', more or less (distribution of frequency of a sound clip.). The color of them might be awful depending on the program you chose. Sometimes it can be changed (high-contrast helps see details better.) Zoom in on the waveform..

You are presented with a shadow of a man in the middle. On the left and right, to me look like pairs of hands reaching out toward the man. The hands on the right side look like they are in jail or behind bars.

There are a few examples of this in commercial CDs. The most famous is probably from Aphex Twin. Nine Inch Nails has done one as well (easy to find on google. Or just look up "famous specrograms/graphs.

Does anybody recognize anything about the image? I will probably try it in a few different colors to see if anything else pops out at me.


Things I have tried: Splitting the file into two based on stereo positions (So, basically get a waveform for the left speaker, and one for the right.) Playing just one speaker reveals nothing new. I've tried filtering down the noise to decipher the words. I've tried taking out the 'picture' via editing but nothing useful. Tried playing with AudioPaint for a little bit.

Tangential but probably very related things in figuring out its meaning:
imagesynth. just google it.
Audio Steganography, which means "..the art and science of encoding hidden messages in sadio formats in such a way that no one, apart from the sender and intended recipient, suspects it.."

Stuff that probably isn't relevant but I'll post just in case. tinp.wav was made in ProTools and last encoded on 2012-10-08 at 01:00:09 AM. It was encoded at 48kHz for some reason. It definitely didn't need to be. Might just be the default protools option, I'm not sure.

http://vanilla47.com/Link%20Collections%20Pages/Cryptography/Steganography/TechniquesMethods.html
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 7, 2013 11:34 am
Steganography... holy shit! :eek:
pyrephoenix • Nov 7, 2013 12:55 pm
edit: okay, didn't realize there was a page 82. When the image was used originally someone identified it as from Leatherface's Cherry Knowle album, without any text (I still don't know if there's any previous source). The music itself is Aileen Stanley singing Sweet Indiana Home, written by Walter Donaldson.
InfiniteIce • Nov 7, 2013 9:53 pm
Where/how did they figure that out Pyre? Did you just recognize the album cover or is there another discussion somewhere?

Who recognized it?
pyrephoenix • Nov 7, 2013 10:26 pm
It was first mentioned here on page 67 by Deius Infectus (post 995; the song was ID'ed and lyrics written out in posts 992/1005.). The original homework on both spectrograph and covering song was done on the then-official TINP forums, sadly now (apparently) lost to time.

To be fair, the only reason I was able to pull up as much info today as I did was because I took three hours last night and reread this whole thread. I've been going to the current Madge page for several months now and completely missed that the song we've got now is the same one that appeared back in 2006.
InfiniteIce • Nov 7, 2013 11:42 pm
oh wow not sure how i missed that. that would have made progress a lot faster hahaha. Ok,.. on to solving the next part
pyrephoenix • Nov 8, 2013 12:19 am
So far the only other thing I've found on the new version is there's two different home pages, one at index.htm and one at index.html; .htm has a broken div in the markup (<div id="mainimg"<br />).

Also I'm not sure the new puzzle has anything more than this front page, but it's sure fun to be looking again.
InfiniteIce • Nov 8, 2013 12:49 am
Googling indiana "madge" (with the quotes) gives a lot of results about one person.

The context of it very much reminds me of researching the Zuiderzee.

KKK Scandal with a prominent man (He was the 'Grand Dragon' apparently). he ended up kidnapping and raping her and she poisoned herself. As she was dying she gave a court testimony about the event. The whole thing ended up basically destroying the KKK.

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/stephenson/stephensonaccount.html

Decided to go back to the very basics of solving things and google words together. Maybe we are too used to the 'tricks' and difficulty that we have overlooked something obvious, and i dont Madge's identity mentioned anywhere else in this thread. ~
Kirkpad • Nov 15, 2013 7:17 am
Based on what the (supposed) creator has been saying on the thisisnotporn.com Facebook page, the opening page is not meant to be solved.

The phrase "Please wait here." is probably just letting us know to wait until puzzles are actually posted.

I've been using the internet for 10+ years and I am SHOCKED that I have not heard of this whole thing until now. I will be spending some free time over the next couple days re-reading this thread and checking out the original puzzle.

Also, Madge apparently means "Child of Light". Maybe it's just a way of saying we can see the light... or something.

Anyways stoked to check out the forum, it looks like there's a nice little community here!
orthodoc • Nov 15, 2013 7:30 am
Hi Kirkpad, pyrephoenix, and InfiniteIce! Welcome!
InfiniteIce • Nov 15, 2013 7:38 am
Just to add onto my previous madge theory, http://www.discogs.com/Aileen-Stanley-Victor-Roberts-Sweet-Indiana-Home-Why-Should-I-Cry-Over-You/release/3600048 was released in 1922 (same time as the madge link above happened.)

http://www.loc.gov/jukebox/recordings/detail/id/4964/
Looks like here's the original file used on the TINP page (it was obviously cleaned up and modified in protools but you can tell this is the one.)

even if we aren't supposed to figure it out yet, gonna write it down so i dont forgot. just in case.

edit: hello orthodoc!

edit2: slightly interesting, there is also a tinp.mp3 off the main page (in addition to the .wav that plays). Kind of odd that there is a 192 kbps mp3 that does nothing, but there is a wav file that plays instead. Either the wav was lossy transcoded or the mp3 is there for some (or no) reason. probably meaningless.
Kyon • Dec 1, 2013 4:01 am
"Cherry Knowle is the first full-length by English punk band Leatherface. The album is named after Cherry Knowle mental hospital in Ryhope, Sunderland, and the albums cover reflects the hospital's Victorian origins."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_Knowle

Also, Hi guys! Glad to be here (finally :P )
Kyon • Dec 1, 2013 4:08 am
https://twitter.com/Thisisnotporn/statuses/374079453552340992

the "Madge" InfinteIce supplied a link for was raped on a train.

"What began as a vicious rape on a night train from Indianapolis to Chicago ended with arrests of Indiana's governor and other high state officials. "

And Infinte, you mentioned the second page?!?!
quantumgabo • Jan 8, 2014 4:26 pm
Found this (it's a poem):

Her Name was Madge

Rum-balls and marzipan
announced her appearance
every Christmas
in those far-away tinselly days
when I was small.

Her name was Madge.
(the term spinster never suited a soul so well)
Stooped and bony,
she had long hair coiled up on top
and ankles that could have turned men's heads.
She grew lily of the valley
in her garden
‘on the west side with just a hint of the sun’.

She adored me.
Minded me often.
Reminded me
of the need for family.
(even though we weren’t really hers)

She lived alone in the big house.
Nursed both parents
into their graves, apparently.
Mum said ‘he’ had been a tyrant.
‘Drove away the only gentleman friend she ever had’.

Later she gave me recipes
penned in her perfect copperplate
‘It’s the J nib that makes the difference’.

I recall the story she told each year
about the only time I saw her with her hair down.
‘Madge… (she liked me to call her that)
You look just like a girl -
from the back.’

She died of cancer in the end.
Left all her money to her proper family -
the ones who never bothered with her.

Alison Cassidy
Salvander • Mar 21, 2018 7:04 pm
I don't know but it sure looks like porn to me :P
glatt • Mar 21, 2018 8:56 pm
This thread!
BigV • Mar 22, 2018 1:36 pm
glatt;1006051 wrote:
This thread!


I know, I know...

:crazy:

kinda reminds me of The Disaster Artist, well, the subject of The Disaster Artist. So, *so* obtuse and so intense, and it just keeps going from it's own momentum.
Kagen4o4 • Mar 7, 2019 6:14 am
Wowza...found it. Well I've got some time to kill...brb