"Yum" or "ahh"? ,your choice
Y'all are going to lagh at me. But don't you think that the culinary arts (eating, cooking,wine-tasting, etc) are more pleasing and more subtle than sex as a whole?
Are you crazy??!!!!!
Don't get me started on why sex is better than food or this could get seriously x-rated and turn into a whole different kind of cellar with toys and whips and everything.
i Know its weird. but, hey. when you eat, you get choices like Chinese cuisine, English, French, Spanish, Mexican, Italian, Etc.
or simpler. when you order a steak, you can have it rare, medium, or well done (with side dishes of course)
but sex, you have it and that's it there is no variety in it.
When you have sex, you could have a Chinese, an English, a French, a Spanish, a Mexican, an Italian, Etc.
Or simpler. With sex, it can be rare, medium, or well done (with side dishes of course)
Sex. It's all about variety.
As far as Im concerned, no, it is not.
it seems far outweighted but, if you abstain from eating or drinking, you'll be dead within the month. however if you abstaing from the other, well, lets just say monks have been doing it for years and years.
Yes but your argument was that eating was more 'pleasing' and 'subtle' than sex, not that it was more necessary. Although personally, I'd argue that one too.:D
HEY, eating is better that , point blank (and you know it.)
several reasons are againgst that
for example, can you put salt or other condiments to food. of couse .but not to the other
You could add salt, but it might sting a bit. I prefer honey, or ye olde faithful chocolate sauce. Even a bit of spice is quite nice.
Originally posted by Catwoman
Sex. It's all about variety.
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
As far as Im concerned, no, it is not.
Tomas, you're not doing it right then. There is room for infinite variety when it comes to sex. This is the internet age. Armed with Google and a few well-thought-out search queries, you can find a lot of things to improve the quality (and variety) of your sex life. Given the choice between a perfectly cooked steak and a marathon fuckfest, I'd choose the fuckfest without so much as blinking. But then, I know how to pick good toys. :)
Food will never tell you that your apartment is too small and that it is time to get deeper into debt..
Yelof ducks and creeps off stage left
If you think any food on earth is better than sex, you're not having sex the right way.
In general, I'd definitely say sex. But I will admit, there are occasions where I would choose eating queso over sex. But that's really the only food I can think of, and I probably have an addiction, so maybe that doesn't count. :)
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
don't you think that the culinary arts (eating, cooking,wine-tasting, etc) are more pleasing and more subtle than sex as a whole?
"Subtle?" Yes.
"Pleasing?" No.
Not trying to to say food sucks. Food can be really yummy. But food at its best is still not as good as mediocre sex. The worst sex I've ever had is far better than the worst food I've ever had.
Clodfobble, you'd be spoilt for choice in Portugal, fine women and
great cheesesOriginally posted by Clodfobble
I would choose eating queso over sex.
Please tell me about this thing you call "queso."
queso = cheese = frommage
OK. It's cheese. But there must be something special about it if clodfobble is would choose it over sex. I've never found a cheese I felt that way about.
Actually, to me its sort of a wierd comparison. Kind of like saying its better to have a cat than it is to read a good book. Or that zebras are better than blenders. I enjoy a good meal and I enjoy good sex. I've even picked up men in the grocery store when shopping for dinner. I suppose if I had to make a choice between eating bland food and having bland sex, I'd pick eating bland food and having great sex. As for variety, there are as many varieties of men as there are varieties of food and the ways you can "season" your "meal" are endless. I could give some examples, but its my understanding that this is not a porn site, so I'll leave it to your imagination (You do have an imagination, don't you?).
The only real comparison between food is the old saying...
Sex is like Pizza, even when it's bad, it's really not that bad.
well... that's a toughie.
speaking as a 'culinarian' (aka. I need to finish the paperwork to get my 'chef' status) the two are so intertwined (or can be) that the overall experience can be equally sensual.. ideally good food followed by good sex, both sublime and complex.. or heh.. both at the same time.. yeah yeah I know. the thing is that if you put a little passion and thought into it, they can both be very very rewarding.. at this point though I'd go with bland food and great sex..
which reminds me.. I figured out on of lifes great mysteries..
you can't have your cake and eat it too..
but..
you CAN halve your cake and eat it too..
damn.. the devils in the details
You do have an imagination, don't you?
I'm wondering.
i always get hungry after sex so i think i would be screwed without either one.
p.s. i thoroughly intended that awful pun.
OK. It's cheese. But there must be something special about it if clodfobble is would choose it over sex. I've never found a cheese I felt that way about.
It's specifically more like a melted cheese sauce with tomatoes and peppers added that one dips chips into. Recipes and quality vary all over the place--the lowest common denominator would be Velveeta cheese and a can of Rotel.
That is not the kind I am talking about, however. There is a restaurant here called Kerbey Lane Cafe which uses white cheeses instead of yellow ones (which are much more common), as well as larger tomato chunks and a magical combination of peppers, and that stuff is heavenly. They even sell it in jars there, it's so popular.
So where do you stand on the addition of black beans or ground beef to the mix?
So where do you stand on the addition of black beans or ground beef to the mix?
They're both good, although I would prefer the black beans get very thoroughly drained before being added or the cheese gets lost.
But to me, that's really more like asking, "Can you put queso on black beans or ground beef?" And the answer is always yes, queso can be put on top of anything to make it better.
If this thread turns into a recipe discussion I think its question has been answered.
Sounds like you could drip it over the taut, quivering body of a sex partner and lick it off. Kind of like the dripping melted wax idea, but with cheese.
How's that for bringing it back around, UT?
Originally posted by Undertoad
If this thread turns into a recipe discussion I think its question has been answered.
Sorry about that, Toad. Looks like Glatt is getting it on the right track tho.
Food will never tell you that your apartment is too small and that it is time to get deeper into debt..
Yelof ducks and creeps off stage left
Ah dear me, That had made chuckle
mmm.....sex or food?...sex or food?....Depends on the sex.....depends on the food...I've had some great sex....but I have had some lousy sex too.....Had a few bloody good meals....eaten my share of tasteless crap.....
I dont go with that idea of even bad sex being better than no sex. Bad sex is not fun or pleasant its just.....bad.
Yes please tell.
And could someone move this to the "what the fuck?" thread?
If you're choosing food over sex I'd love to see a picture of you.
And yes, bad sex IS better than no sex....but you're a woman right?
*nods* I am ....and if that's why I think no sex is better than bad sex...well ok. I dont have huge difficulty in accepting that you lads get something out of it even if its bad...I would imagine given the physiological dynamics involved that guys and gals relate differently to this.
I can't even pronounce physiological dynamics but we lads do indeed get "get something out of it".
Ah if only the womenfolk could be so simple. We'd all be so much better off, the women working with a smile on their face, the men sleeping it off....
Originally posted by blue58
Yes please tell.
And could someone move this to the "what the fuck?" thread?
If you're choosing food over sex I'd love to see a picture of you.
And yes, bad sex IS better than no sex....but you're a woman right?
I just happen to be of the female persuasion myself, and I agree with Dana that bad sex is worse than no sex. Can a man even experience "bad sex"? I will admit that given the choice of a "wham, bam, thank you ma'am" partner and a well broiled, medium rare steak, I'd take the steak. Wanna see my pic? :p
Can a man even experience "bad sex"?
A letdown maybe, but Bad...not really.
Wanna see my pic?
Oh yeah!
Just to throw in the proverbial spanner, I am female, and would rather have bland sex than no sex. But then if its bland, its with the wrong person anyway, so, oh well, move onto the next one. Or eat some cake.
Yes, bad sex is better than no sex. Just as bad food is better than no food at all. If you were starving, would you rather have a peanut butter, pickle, and bologna sandwich (nasty) or nothing at all?
Women don't seem to understand how the male brain works. Sex is a physical need. It's a bodily function like eating or going to the bathroom. This is why women should not be surprised if when they try to use sex as a weapon by withholding, it backfires on them. If a woman stops cooking for her husband, it doesn't mean he's going to stop eating. He might make his own meals for awhile, but eventually he'll go out to eat. The same is true of sex.
It's possible for a man to have poor sex, but even poor sex is better than none at all.
I think part of the reason women don't understand this is because virtually any woman can have sex any time they wish.
When we're children, having ice-cream is a huge treat. We get very excited about it because we don't know when we might get ice-cream again. But when we turn into adults, and we can have it anytime we like, the excitement is gone. It's like predatory animals in the wild. The Lion is always hunting because it doesn't know where its next meal will come from. Lions in the zoo, with a steady supply of food aren't hunting but those in the wild have that hungry look on thier faces.
Women are the lion in the zoo. All they need to do is walk into any bar and say, "I'd like to have sex. Is there a man here who will have sex with me?" and they'd be having sex within the hour. Even an ugly or old woman could do this.
Men are the lion in the wild. We genuinely don't know when we're going to have sex again, especially considering the slightest thing will send a woman "out of the mood". This is why we're always hunting for sex and why we get excited about it like children with ice-cream.
Originally posted by Radar
Yes, bad sex is better than no sex. Just as bad food is better than no food at all. If you were starving, would you rather have a peanut butter, pickle, and bologna sandwich (nasty) or nothing at all?
Lose the bologna, and you have yourself a tasty treat. I know it sounds nasty, but Jinx turned me onto it, and if it's a good dill pickle, and quality pb.......yuuuumy!
Originally posted by Radar
If a woman stops cooking for her husband, it doesn't mean he's going to stop eating. He might make his own meals for awhile, but eventually he'll go out to eat. The same is true of sex.
with your wife in a different country, I suppose you've been doing a lot of both kinds of "home cookin"?
Originally posted by Radar
Men are the lion in the wild. We genuinely don't know when we're going to have sex again, especially considering the slightest thing will send a woman "out of the mood". This is why we're always hunting for sex and why we get excited about it like children with ice-cream.
i beg to differ. married men over 30 will probably agree that if they want some nookie, little effort is required. Assuming you're doing it right, and your wife is game for a little slap and tickle. I wouldn;t go so far as to say I'm the lion in the zoo, but I would say I'm a Lion in a game preserve where the hunting is excellent.
Originally posted by Radar
Women are the lion in the zoo. All they need to do is walk into any bar and say, "I'd like to have sex. Is there a man here who will have sex with me?" and they'd be having sex within the hour. Even an ugly or old woman could do this.
if a woman did that, she'd be having sex IN the bar within MINUTES....on the pool table, with a line forming behind her FIRST partner. At least, that's what it says in Penthouse.
Originally posted by lumberjim
if a woman did that, she'd be having sex IN the bar within MINUTES....on the pool table, with a line forming behind her FIRST partner. At least, that's what it says in Penthouse.
I never knew that. Thank God we have Penthouse to give us factual, unembroidered information about these things.
(Seriously, is Penthouse still around? I had read they were in serious financial trouble, for reasons that seemed mostly obvious.)
Lose the bologna, and you have yourself a tasty treat. I know it sounds nasty, but Jinx turned me onto it, and if it's a good dill pickle, and quality pb.......yuuuumy!
I've got another one that sounds horrible, but it's really good. My grandma made me eat it and I couldn't believe it was good.
Peanut Butter + Mayo.
And a guy last week told me Peanut Butter + Sweet Pickles + Banana + Bacon
Freaky! The point is would you rather eat something that isn't very good or starve? Let's say you hate liver and onions (I happen to love it), and you haven't eaten in 3 days. Would you rather eat a plate of liver and onions or continue starving?
with your wife in a different country, I suppose you've been doing a lot of both kinds of "home cookin"?
Sadly yes. I've had to wrestle the bald-headed champ a few times to tide me over.
I wouldn;t go so far as to say I'm the lion in the zoo, but I would say I'm a Lion in a game preserve where the hunting is excellent.
Point taken, but I'd like to make sure she knows she's not doing me a favor by having sex. She has a good time and so do I. Nobody is doing anyone a favor.
if a woman did that, she'd be having sex IN the bar within MINUTES....on the pool table, with a line forming behind her FIRST partner. At least, that's what it says in Penthouse.
True, but I'd assume she'd want to actually make it to a bed. I suppose if she wanted it right now, she could easily get someone to nail her in the parking lot or on the pool table.
The point is, men can't do that women can. Because they can have sex any time they want, sex isn't as important to them as it would be if they couldn't.
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
As far as Im concerned, no, it is not.
it seems far outweighted but, if you abstain from eating or drinking, you'll be dead within the month. however if you abstaing from the other, well, lets just say monks have been doing it for years and years.
you're absolutely right, sort of... if you abstain from food and drink you will soon be dead.
if you abstain from sex you will soon WISH you were dead.
originally posted by radar
Sadly yes. I've had to wrestle the bald-headed champ a few times to tide me over.
TMI
Seconding wolf there.
but I would say I'm a Lion in a game preserve where the hunting is excellent.
At least, that's what it says in Penthouse.
hmmm LJ ;)
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The more I hear from Radar about women the more sure I am I was right the first time.
edited for clarity.
Neither of those quotes is mine. And if your first impression of me was that I'm an honest, straightforward, well-educated, reasonable, truthful, intelligent, guy who doesn't pull any punches, it was indeed correct.
I'm not saying what you want to hear, I'm telling you the truth whether you like it or not.
So, Food is better than Sex?
The only time food is better than sex is when you're having sex with a wood chipper.
Sorry if I made that hard to follow, the quotes were LJ, the hmm was about him.
Closer to arrogant, ignorant, chauvinistic, abusive and egotistical. but hey, close enough. I'm not saying what you want to hear, I'm telling you the truth whether you like it or not.
Very, very good meals are better than very, very bad sex but that's about the limit of it.
if you happen to be a praying mantis, you can do both!
You don't have to be a praying mantis. Just...messy. Depends on the food too, steaming hot stuff might be a bad idea.
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I think part of the reason women don't understand this is because virtually any woman can have sex any time they wish.
Women are the lion in the zoo. All they need to do is walk into any bar and say, "I'd like to have sex. Is there a man here who will have sex with me?" and they'd be having sex within the hour. Even an ugly or old woman could do this.
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Couldn't virtually any man have sex any time he wanted - provided he wasn't opposed to paying for it?
[posessed by bruce] doesn't every man pay for sex every time he has it in one way or another?:)[/posessed by bruce]
Closer to arrogant, ignorant, chauvinistic, abusive and egotistical. but hey, close enough. I'm not saying what you want to hear, I'm telling you the truth whether you like it or not.
Except for the fact that what you've said isn't the truth and what I've said actually is. None of what I've said even remotely resembles any of your descriptions.
Better descriptions of what I've said include but aren't limited to: insightful, unbiased, logical, poignant, articulate, intelligent, accurate, clear, concise, and factual. This is the truth whether or not you choose to admit it. And that's not egotistical or arrogant; it's just the way it is.
Sorry if you're a female chauvinist and can't see past your own ignorance. Hopefully you'll open your eyes someday.
Couldn't virtually any man have sex any time he wanted - provided he wasn't opposed to paying for it?
That's not the same thing at all and it perpetuates the fallacy that a woman is doing a favor for a man by having sex with him.
The discussion had to do with the fact that a woman can have sex anytime she wants and a man can not. Let's assume that a man and a woman are both totally and completely broke. All they own is the clothes on their back and each of them are 8,000 miles apart from each other. Each walks into a bar and says, "I want to have sex with anyone who is willing". Which one of them get's laid, and which gets thrown out of the bar, or ridiculed by the opposite sex?
Better descriptions of what I've said include but aren't limited to: insightful, unbiased, logical, poignant, articulate, intelligent, accurate, clear, concise, and factual. This is the truth whether or not you choose to admit it. And that's not egotistical or arrogant; it's just the way it is.
*bows*
Case closed.
Amazing that you would close a case without proving anything. But hey, that's your style. I prefer to back up what I say with reason, logic, and facts.
I've proven my case, and you have proven nothing but your bad attitude, bitterness, ignorance, and bias.
Dang Radar, I tried what you said. I walked into a bar and announced that I wanted to get laid. They laughed and threw me out. Not one taker. What does that mean? I am too old and hideous? Was is a gay bar? Am I now able to appreciate sex like a man? (I settled for a basket of fries.)
(Speaking of Queso....and if your in Texas anyway...Check out Shady Grove's Green Chilie Cheese Fries. They rival lively foreplay for pleasure.)
Good food trumps a bad partner. But good sex makes you forget to eat.
Originally posted by warch
Dang Radar, I tried what you said. I walked into a bar and announced that I wanted to get laid. They laughed and threw me out. Not one taker.
what's that smell?
oh....i see....its bull:turd:
what's that smell?
oh....i see....its bull:turd:
I think I smell that too.
Originally posted by DanaC
Ah dear me, That had made chuckle
mmm.....sex or food?...sex or food?....Depends on the sex.....depends on the food...I've had some great sex....but I have had some lousy sex too.....Had a few bloody good meals....eaten my share of tasteless crap.....
I dont go with that idea of even bad sex being better than no sex. Bad sex is not fun or pleasant its just.....bad.
Yeah, what she said! :D
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
So, Food is better than Sex?
Well, ok. Here's my take on it.
I would say it depends on the person and how often they need/want sex. I have a friend who has rarely been without a man in her life, and she's getting it almost on a daily. She's somewhat of a sexaholic anyway (not saying that in a "bad" way, although she has gotten herself in plenty of trouble on more than one occasion because of this).
Food is something that people "need": sex is what most people "want". In other words, you need food to live, not sex (no matter what people may say, and no jokes please...please? Thanks).
I don't think you'll get a definitive answer here. Various people think differently about whether or not food is better than sex. Although, it seems to me that more people complain about their sex lives than food...;)
Sex is a physical NEED (at least for men)
Men genuinely need some physical release or they could become unstable. I don't mean this as a joke. It's a physical need every bit as much as eating, breathing, or going to the bathroom. The fact that we can go longer without sex doesn't make it any less of a need.
Originally posted by Radar
Sex is a physical [b]NEED (at least for men)
Men genuinely need some physical release or they could become unstable. I don't mean this as a joke. It's a physical need every bit as much as eating, breathing, or going to the bathroom. The fact that we can go longer without sex doesn't make it any less of a need. [/B]
I tend to agree. look at what happens when you swear off of sex for the catholic church. you become a closet homopedophile.
what, you think it's a coincedence?
I see no need to separate the two.;)
Originally posted by jaguar
*bows*
Case closed.
Stop the motherfucking presses ... I'm agreeing with jaguar on something ...
Insightful work, young glasshoppel.
I am moderately bemused but mostly annoyed that it's only the men here who are claiming the 'physical need' aspect. It's a physical need for women too! I go mad if I don't have sex for any length of time. Really, I start humping furniture and stuff. And the occasional cucumber. So, 'get laid', you say, 'it's easy, you're a woman'. OK so if I walked into a bar and offered my 'services' no doubt there would be many takers. But that I would want to give to? No! Women are more discriminative and don't want sex with just anyone. They would feel cheap, or used. The only way to combat this is to shack up with a dude who spends lots of money on you so you feel expensive, and then turn him down for sex so you don't feel used.
I think sex as a physical need may be valid but I dont think it sits alongside sustenance and air on the hierachy of needs. Lots and lots of people live without sex a lot of the time. Lots and lots of people live a celibate life ( for a variety of reasons) now I wouldnt like to lay any claims totheir state of mind, but I really seriously doubt that it would kill them. Got no food? ....Starve to death. Got no air? ....suffocate. Got no sexual partner? ......be severely frustrated or learn how to satisfy yourself:P
Nor do I think that just applies to women. I just think it distresses most men more than most women to have to go long periods without sexual release.
To 'live' without 'sex' is a paradox. You cannot have one without the other.
Catwoman stalks off in self-satisfied manner to go and fornicate
*Chuckles* I have lived with and without. In fact it must be coming on for two years since I got laid :P Cant say as it particularly bothers me. I certainly have no intention of going looking for a new partner. Do I miss it? Sometimes. Sometimes not depending on my mood and where in the month I am :P
And I didnt, by the way, say that no sex is better than bland sex, I said no sex is better than bad sex.
Truth is, everybody's libido is different. Some people really need that release other people dont. I enjoyed it when had it. ( my ex and I used to play some pretty wild games let me tell ya) but I cant say it's something I "crave" these days. Maybe I will at some future time. Right now I am too busy revelling in the freedom of not being attached to want to make any new connections. I have never been attracted to casual sex.
2 years!!! Wow. I mean, I don't want to make a point of it, but bloody hell! I don't think I've ever gone longer than a couple of months. But I guess I've been lucky, I've either been in a relationship, or, now I'm finally single, have always had an obliging 'friend' or acquaintance to remove the casual element. You've made me think though, is it the sex I can't do without or the connection? I have a suspicion it's the latter.
edited to say: What utter bollocks. Of course it's the sex.
Fucks off, slightly pensively, to jump into bed with housemate
thought the ground was cold today wolf ;)
Cat and Dana got me to thinking, and I guess I've never gone more than a month or two without sex, myself. The thing is, nobody could make the comment that they've gone a month or two without food. They wouldn't be around to make the statement! I still think its a bizarre comparison, though. However, the best sex I ever had was far more enjoyable than the very best meal I ever had, so on that level, I suppose I could say that sex is better than food.
I strongly disagree with Radar saying that a woman could just walk into a bar and crook her little finger and get all the sex she wants. In theory, true enough. I could also walk into a bar with a semi-automatic and kill most of the people in the place. It is possible to do that. But in each example, there would be many unpleasant consequences.
Our culture still holds women to a certain standard. A woman who is willing to just have casual sex with anyone she meets is considered a 'ho. A man who does that is considered a "manly man" who is one lucky SOB, and his buddies all slap him on the back for his prowness.
Most men have little respect for a woman they consider an "easy lay," and such a woman often looses respect for herself thanks to society's attitudes in this regard. Society forces women to wear cultural "chasity belts" while men are free to pursue their sexuality as they please.
Originally posted by jaguar
thought the ground was cold today wolf ;)
I noticed that too, but attributed it to the Philadelphia Flyers playing brilliantly last night.
(interesting side note: I watched bits of the game during a county disaster drill. I was in the spooky underground confines of the Emergency Operations Center. VERY cool place to be, especially given the scenario of a WMD incident at a local mall (anyone who lives near King of Prussia, that's what was going on last night) ... There are apparently going to be additional stages to the drill in other parts of the Phila area today.)
Most men have little respect for a woman they consider an "easy lay," and such a woman often looses respect for herself thanks to society's attitudes in this regard. Society forces women to wear cultural "chasity belts" while men are free to pursue their sexuality as they please.
Utterly and completely false.
Men have much more respect for women who don't confuse sex and love. If a guy can find a girl who likes to hang around, watch sports, and give an occasional BJ to him and his buddies with no emotional attachment, so much the better.
Women mistakenly think that men think less of women who have lots of sex without emotional attachment or commitment. We like them and respect them
more than the other girls.
"Society" doesn't force anyone to do anything. Most of the attitudes mentioned above are created and perpetuated by women, not men.
errrr. Right. marichiko is, as usual on the money. It's an ironic situation in many ways (if either sex is built for lots of casual sex, it sure ain't men) it certainly exists in most parts of the world if not all. Radar of course doesn't really inhabit this world.
I was wondering about that. He seems to have been raised in some strange world of the future that has very different behavioral rules from modern society, but without the aircars and silver jumpsuits that we've been promised since childhood as signs that the future is now.
I love how women try to tell a man how men think and whom we respect. It's hilarious.
I'm an authority on the subject. You are not. Women can have sex anytime they want. Men can not. Not even Brad Pitt can walk into a bar, snap his fingers, and have any woman in the bar. But even an average looking woman with no money can.
Jaguar is, as usual, completely full of shit.
I live right here on earth, and what I'm saying is a reality in this world right now. You're just blind to it.
Wait a sec! what is your definition of sex? is it either:
1) the release of psychological sexual desires through any erotic action (i.e. sex, masturbation, etc.)
or
2) actual sex with a partner required. ?
Masturbation is to sex as a snack is to a meal. A snack can tide you over for a bit, but eventually you're going to want a meal. And even if you make a few meals out of putting a lot of snacks together, it's not nutritionally sound and won't really satisfy your urge to eat a real meal. For instance let's say you are stranded on an island and the only thing to eat is coconuts. Coconuts don't really have all the vitamins you need, or other nutrients, but they can stop you from feeling hungry temporarily. If you go long enough with just eating coconuts, you'll get sick and die though.
Men have much more respect for women who don't confuse sex and love. If a guy can find a girl who likes to hang around, watch sports, and give an occasional BJ to him and his buddies with no emotional attachment, so much the better.
Women mistakenly think that men think less of women who have lots of sex without emotional attachment or commitment. We like them and respect them more than the other girls.
Just to clarify, that was the bit where the what-the-fuck-o-meter blew up. Yea
like, on the most shallow of levels. A quick fuck. Respect? Huh?
I'm a man, I'm telling you and I'm not alone, here or in normal society. I respect (and go for) intelligent, creative, vivacious women who have enough respect for themselves to choose thier sexual partners entirely on their own terms. Certainly not some trash doing round-robin blowjobs while the football match is on.
If anyone isn't convinced radar isn't entirely disconnected from reality, check the implication in the below quote.
If you go long enough with just eating coconuts, you'll get sick and die though.
I'm a man, I'm telling you and I'm not alone, here or in normal society.
You're not a man. You're a pussy. And you aren't even in the same neighborhood as "normal society" so give it up.
You're a typical pussified wimp denying what's real because you want to play up the "sensitive guy" angle. Give it a rest. You are all that is wrong in the world.
If anyone isn't convinced radar isn't entirely disconnected from reality, check the implication in the below quote.
Do you deny that a diet of only coconuts would eventually lead to death? Ever heard of scurvy? rickets? or any number of other diseases that malnourished people get?
*laughs. Ah! Gold. God you're like a bull shown red, I knew I'd get the 'you're not a man' line as soon as I wrote that. Cute, if predictable. Of course, anyone that wants more from a woman than hot dinner on the table when they get home from that oh-so-tiring-quit-bothering-me-to-do-anything-but-watch-tv-when-I-get-home 9-5 job, the house clean and blowjobs for all their buddies is a pussified wimp. I get it now.
Barefoot and pregnant, that's the motto of Real Men like radar. The 50s called, they want their social norm back.
Oh and before you fly off the handle, look up the work implication.
We're not talking about wives retard. We're talking about people trying to get laid. But of course you're above getting laid since you're the "I'm a sensitive man who genuinely cares about your feelings and I'll respect you in the morning because I genuinely care about you as a person (but I'm really lying to get laid)" kind of guy.
You are a pussy. You're a pansy assed little queer who forgot how to be a man. You were most likely raised by a single woman or had a very domineering mother.
I don't know of a single guy who wants them to be barefoot or pregnant. They want them with shoes on and taking birth control so as soon as they're done getting laid they can use those shoes to walk away and we'll never get a phone call asking for child support.
And don't worry, I don't "fly off the handle". My discussions are always logical, intelligent, and reasonable.
Everything I've said is true for the vast majority of people. Are there particular exceptions? Yes, but they are the exception not the rule and are therefore irrelevant to this discussion.
Young men want to get laid and have a good time without making some sort of emotional commitment. That's what we're talking about. Women can and often do have these kind of one night stands but don't talk about them for fear of being thought of as a "slut". But they don't realize that most men don't care if they're a slut, or would actually prefer it.
We're not talking about those trying to settle down. We're talking about those who want to get laid. Believe it or not, you can do one without the other.
And nobody on earth has yet proven that men gain anything by being married. (And don't be so stupid as to bring up a wealthy woman and a poor guy because that's almost never the case and we're talking about MOST cases, not exceptions)
THINGS A MAN CAN HAVE WITHOUT BEING MARRIED
Sex
Companionship
Children
Love
Houskeeping
Life Long Commitment
etc.
THINGS A MAN CAN ONLY HAVE BY BEING MARRIED
?
THINGS A MAN RISKS BY BEING MARRIED (if things don't work out)
Losing half of everything he's ever earned before he even met her
Paying vaginamony through the nose for years
Losing his house
Credit messed up
Why did you get married Radar? And how is your relationship with your mother, if I may ask?
You're really aren't the brightest candle on the cake are you.
If, and lets face it, in your case, it's a pretty big one - you read what I said, properly, there is nothing in there (phew ;)) that precludes the wonderful one night stand, fuck buddies or anything else for that matter. But hey, it was a big if, you couldn't even follow the word implication.
Not really sure where marriage came into the discussion either, I've got no intentions of going anywhere near it. Out of question, considering you're sour as verjuice about the whole institution, why did you get married for a second time?
My discussions are always logical, intelligent, and reasonable.
You are a pussy. You're a pansy assed little queer who forgot how to be a man.
Ok, now we've cleared that up. You know you've said and made up some pretty amusing stuff over time but that was the best in-one-post juxtoposition I've seen yet. Every time your rants start looking a tad hackneyed (and more than a tad impuissant) you manage to pull another rabbit out of the hat.
Sorry to everyone else for turning an otherwise perfectly good thread into another forum for my ongoing spat with Radar, even if it is occasionally rather amusing.
And how is your relationship with your mother, if I may ask?
Freud is in the house ;)
Radar, you put "children" under "Things a Man Can Have Without Being Married."
While this is biologically true, reality would dictate that you put "Children he gets to see every day and doesn't have to pay child support for" under "Things a Man Can Only Have By Being Married."
Is that a reasonable answer to your question (what do men get out of marriage?), or do you deny that some men want to have children in the non-visitation sense?
Why did you get married Radar? And how is your relationship with your mother, if I may ask?
Because I love this woman, I'm ready to settle down, and because there was no other way to bring her to America. If there were, I'd have done it.
And the relationship with the mother is fine.
Sorry to everyone else for turning an otherwise perfectly good thread into another forum for my ongoing spat with Radar, even if it is occasionally rather amusing.
You could fuck up a wet dream. You can't help yourself. You've got to come in and screw up decent discussions with your ignorance, and bitterness. You are an idiot. I seriously mean that. You are so stupid, you're on the virge of competing in the special olympics.
My assessment of you... "You are a pussy. You're a pansy assed little queer who forgot how to be a man." is accurate, logical, intelligent, and reasonable. You've proven yourself to be all of the above and then some.
While this is biologically true, reality would dictate that you put "Children he gets to see every day and doesn't have to pay child support for" under "Things a Man Can Only Have By Being Married."
That's wholly inaccurate.
A man can have children he gets to see everyday and doesn't pay child support for even without being married. He can have a child with his girlfriend who happens to live with him and see his child everyday. And he can even have custody of that child if they split up. A man is every bit as loving, caring, and able to care for a child as a woman.
I think RADAR is originally from Gor
I like the militant atheist thing. My friend has a bumper sticker that says, "Militant Agnostic - I don't know and neither do you!"
A man can have children he gets to see everyday and doesn't pay child support for even without being married. He can have a child with his girlfriend who happens to live with him and see his child everyday. And he can even have custody of that child if they split up. A man is every bit as loving, caring, and able to care for a child as a woman.
Believe me, I am well aware that a man is more than capable of caring for a child. But in most courts, unless the mother is cooperating, or shown to have a criminal record, the man will not get custody. Shall we say it happens about as often as a man walks into a bar and immediately finds someone willing to have sex with him?
I will grant you that if his girlfriend is willing to simply live with him and have children, it is possible. But you know that's not the norm, otherwise you wouldn't be bitching about women so much. And the girlfriend has total control in that situation--he risks having to pay child support and never see the kid again should she choose to leave, just as much as the married man risks losing half of everything and paying alimony the rest of his life.
Originally posted by marichiko
Our culture still holds women to a certain standard. A woman who is willing to just have casual sex with anyone she meets is considered a 'ho. A man who does that is considered a "manly man" who is one lucky SOB, and his buddies all slap him on the back for his prowness.
Most men have little respect for a woman they consider an "easy lay," and such a woman often looses respect for herself thanks to society's attitudes in this regard. Society forces women to wear cultural "chasity belts" while men are free to pursue their sexuality as they please.
*the congregation shouts: AMEN!* ;)
For instance, I have a friend who has rarely been without a man in her life. Basically, she has some issues to resolve, so that could be it, but she has been known by some to be a 'ho. Of course, she doesn't think so, she's just...well...a very loving person. :D However, I've known plenty of men like that, and they are either "dogs" or "playas". Hmph! :mad:
My assessment of you... "You are a pussy. You're a pansy assed little queer who forgot how to be a man." is accurate, logical, intelligent, and reasonable.
Accurate, logical, intelligent and reasonable...........All the words that immediately spring to mind when reading your post RADAR......
Thanks Dana, it's nice to see someone who recognizes my better qualities. ;)
Hard not to.....'s kind of shining right out off've the screen......Maybe.....Maybe all this time what I really needed was a Real Man.....
Well Dana, you wouldn't be the first or the last. I know what I'm talking about because I wasted years trying to be a "nice guy". I made every mistake in the book. Women say they want a nice guy, but while they're young and wild and horny, they don't want a nice guy. They want a one night stand with the drummer of a rock band. They want to be bent over, slapped on the ass, and driven home by a bad-ass with a bad attitude. It's only after they've been hurt by one of these guys, or they get old enough that they are tired of the wild sex and want to trade it in for stability that they go for nice guys.
There was a study released last week confirming this. It said that women would rather marry nice guys but find really good looking and muscular men to be intimidating, and far more sexy.
Nice guys only get the women after they've been used, and abused, and worn out. It's like riding a 15 year old Mercedes. Once it was a great ride, but everyone else already had a ride. Now that it's old and tired, and its days of riding fast and furious are over, the nice guy gets it.
Nice guys only get the women after they've been used, and abused, and worn out. It's like riding a 15 year old Mercedes. Once it was a great ride, but everyone else already had a ride. Now that it's old and tired, and its days of riding fast and furious are over, the nice guy gets it.
I thought you guys liked and respected women who had slept around? You are confusing me.
[COLOR=indigo]You people are kidding, right?[/COLOR]
*smiles* Onyx...come on....dont tell me you arent drawn to RADAR's masculinity and innate charm? You know he can please a woman like no other man , it oozes out of every one of his posts...
Do nothing but eat and make good cheer, And thank Heaven for the merry year
When flesh is cheap and females dear, And lusty lads roam here and there So merrily, And ever among so merrily!
- a spring song
Originally posted by Radar
Utterly and completely false.
Men have much more respect for women who don't confuse sex and love. If a guy can find a girl who likes to hang around, watch sports, and give an occasional BJ to him and his buddies with no emotional attachment, so much the better.
Women mistakenly think that men think less of women who have lots of sex without emotional attachment or commitment. We like them and respect them [B]more than the other girls.
"Society" doesn't force anyone to do anything. Most of the attitudes mentioned above are created and perpetuated by women, not men. [/B]
:blunt:
Sure, pal, you're looking for the "zipless fuck" and you're delighted if you ever come across it. Would you want to marry this woman who hangs out giving head to you and your pals? Let me ask you something else. Is this how you imagine your future bride is spending her time while waiting to get married to you? Hanging around with the boys, talking about football, and giving blow jobs to anyone who wants one?
You want the convenience of sleeping with who ever might be available at the time without having to worry about any possible emotional entanglements. Your ideal "woman" is actually a man with a vagina. Get real.
I just read your reply to Dana:
Originally posted by Radar
Women say they want a nice guy, but while they're young and wild and horny, they don't want a nice guy. They want a one night stand with the drummer of a rock band. They want to be bent over, slapped on the ass, and driven home by a bad-ass with a bad attitude. It's only after they've been hurt by one of these guys, or they get old enough that they are tired of the wild sex and want to trade it in for stability that they go for nice guys.
There was a study released last week confirming this. It said that women would rather marry nice guys but find really good looking and muscular men to be intimidating, and far more sexy.
Nice guys only get the women after they've been used, and abused, and worn out. It's like riding a 15 year old Mercedes. Once it was a great ride, but everyone else already had a ride. Now that it's old and tired, and its days of riding fast and furious are over, the nice guy gets it.
I couldn't agree more with Dana's comment. Your words hardly sound like you're filled with respect for the woman who has had a lot of sexual experience. And what "study" are you quoting? And how the hell can you think you have the faintest idea of what women want?
You bet, women find good looking, muscular men to be turn-ons. Of course, you more discriminating, male types could care less if a woman has big tits and a nice ass. Its all the same to you. And naturally, every man alive is so self confident that when a drop-dead beautiful woman walks into the room, he doesn't feel in the least intimidated at the thought of winning her over to do blow jobs for him and his buddies.
The trouble with the "nice guys finish last theory" is that it's usually put forth by self described "nice guys" who in reality are jerks that no woman in her right mind would put up with.
I don't claim to be Don Juan, but I know how to get laid every night of the week. I did so before choosing my wife.
You can deny what I'm saying all you like, but every single thing I've said works in real life. Women (at least young women) love assholes and won't give nice guys the time of day. They call nice guys their "friends" which means "I'm not going to have sex with you, but I'll tell you about all the sex I'm having with bikers or rock band members"
There was a study released last week confirming this. It said that women would rather marry nice guys but find really good looking and muscular men to be intimidating, and far more sexy.
Nice guys only get the women after they've been used, and abused, and worn out. It's like riding a 15 year old Mercedes. Once it was a great ride, but everyone else already had a ride. Now that it's old and tired, and its days of riding fast and furious are over, the nice guy gets it.
Ah. But you believe the opposite isn't true? The wild young man won't go for the ditzy slut over the nice girl (even the one willing to put out) any day of the week--until he grows up, just like the woman, and realizes there's more to companionship than just sex?
Everyone grows up at some point Radar, and making mistakes is hardly exclusively a female attribute. I'm sorry some women abused you when you both were younger, but one would think that NOW would be the time you would want to stay a nice guy, now that everyone's older and wiser.
Would you want to marry this woman who hangs out giving head to you and your pals?
Again, we're not talking about marriage, we're talking about having a good time. No I wouldn't marry her. Does that mean I don't respect her? Not at all.
Let me ask you something else. Is this how you imagine your future bride is spending her time while waiting to get married to you?
Frankly, I don't know what she did or who she did it with and I don't care. I just know she's with me now and we love each other.
You want the convenience of sleeping with who ever might be available at the time without having to worry about any possible emotional entanglements. Your ideal "woman" is actually a man with a vagina. Get real.
Watch the movie "Something about Mary". That's the kind of girl I'm talking about. She doesn't have to be a porn star that blows me and all my friends, but she should be as horny as a guy, have no hangups about having sex, and not expect a call the next day. They should think of sex as a fun thing to do and not attach emotion to it like some naive school girl. There are a lot of women like this right here in America. I've known a few.
The women you marry and the women you have sex with aren't necessarily the same type of women. And hopefully they never find out about each other! j/k
The women you marry and the women you have sex with aren't necessarily the same type of women. And hopefully they never find out about each other! j/k
That sounds like exactly what the chick who only goes for the biker assholes would say.
Originally posted by marichiko
Your ideal "woman" is actually a man with a vagina.
That was fucking hilarious Marichiko. Hit me at just the right time.
Originally posted by Radar
The women you marry and the women you have sex with aren't necessarily the same type of women. And hopefully they never find out about each other! j/k
Game, set, and match, Radar. Concede defeat while your still coherent.
Originally posted by DanaC
*smiles* Onyx...come on....dont tell me you arent drawn to RADAR's masculinity and innate charm? You know he can please a woman like no other man , it oozes out of every one of his posts...
[COLOR=indigo]Actually, his attitude repulses me. Not to say he may not be a nice person, but if I was stuck on a desert island and I had to choose between radar and bruce, Radar would die from lack of sex.[/COLOR]
Not to say he may not be a nice person, but if I was stuck on a desert island and I had to choose between radar and bruce, Radar would die from lack of sex.
That made me chuckle some :D
[COLOR=indigo]I was talking to some of the guys here.
One would rather lose his left arm rather than go without sex with a woman.
Same man is not willing to lose the arm if he could wank.
[/COLOR]
Originally posted by OnyxCougar
[COLOR=indigo]Actually, his attitude repulses me. Not to say he may not be a nice person, but if I was stuck on a desert island and I had to choose between radar and bruce, Radar would die from lack of sex.[/COLOR]
Bruce would definitely be my guy of choice. If I was stuck on a desert island with only Radar, I'd satisfy myself while having fantasies about Bruce!:D
Oh dear me *wipes tear from eye* Goddamn marichiko you are a funny bugger you really are
Originally posted by DanaC
Oh dear me *wipes tear from eye* Goddamn marichiko you are a funny bugger you really are
Thank you, Ma'am, and I've noticed your own posts add a definite touch of class to the various debates that go on around here.:beer:
This is starting to sound like a concept for the next installment of Survivor!
............OK......who do you put on the Island? Pick 5 cellarites
Concede defeat while your still coherent.
Too late.
As for Radar's 'study', dont hold your breath, it probably comes from the same place as some of his amazing statistics (Did you know only 1% of marraiges in Vietnam are not for love?) and other amazing facts (Friedman never backed down over monetarism, I've never been to Vietnam).
marichiko gets the thread merit award ;)
The rampant feminism around here appalls me.
Seriously, all you women just need to lighten up a little. It's pretty clear Radar's joking.
<i>All of these were originally posted by Radar</i>
<b>Women mistakenly think that men think less of women who have lots of sex without emotional attachment or commitment. We like them and respect them more than the other girls. </b>
<b>I love how women try to tell a man how men think and whom we respect. It's hilarious. </b>
<b>You're not a man. You're a pussy. And you aren't even in the same neighborhood as "normal society" so give it up.
You're a typical pussified wimp denying what's real because you want to play up the "sensitive guy" angle. Give it a rest. You are all that is wrong in the world.</b>
<b>Do you deny that a diet of only coconuts would eventually lead to death? Ever heard of scurvy? rickets? or any number of other diseases that malnourished people get?</b>
I think he's joking, because these comments, along with most of the rest of the thread, are the exact sort of thing I'd come up if I wanted to satirize the feminist movement, masculinity, etc.
Though, I'd probably be more blatant about it.
See that's the thing. radar does indeed look like a perfect parody of himself (a paragon of parody? ;)) but our experience with his er....unique (or maybe not, sadly) or at least unusual perception of the world is indeed he real position. Kinda scary eh?
Keep in mind some of this guy's other brilliant suggestions include disbanding the Federal Reserve, the FCC and the FDA.
Radar, oh Radar, wherefore art thou Radar?
I haveth for so many years
Longeth for a man with intellect like yours
With the truest passion to speak his mindeth
That all women should really stay indoors
And giveth of their mouths to thine compatriots.
I yearn for a manfolk
Less concerned with sensitivity
And more inclined to giveth thine respect
To an unholy cock sucking harlot like me
Radar, oh Radar, can I be your floozy?
Just for a day, I asketh no more
Than to sit and glean from thee
Thy experience, taste, respect and football predictions
While collecting thine spunk
In my lusting begging lips
That can only dream of such a man as thee.
You just made me spit a mouthful of coffee all over my laptop, thankyou.
Originally posted by Radar
Well Dana, you wouldn't be the first or the last. I know what I'm talking about because I wasted years trying to be a "nice guy". I made every mistake in the book. Women say they want a nice guy, but while they're young and wild and horny, they don't want a nice guy. They want a one night stand with the drummer of a rock band. They want to be bent over, slapped on the ass, and driven home by a bad-ass with a bad attitude. It's only after they've been hurt by one of these guys, or they get old enough that they are tired of the wild sex and want to trade it in for stability that they go for nice guys.
There was a study released last week confirming this. It said that women would rather marry nice guys but find really good looking and muscular men to be intimidating, and far more sexy.
Nice guys only get the women after they've been used, and abused, and worn out. It's like riding a 15 year old Mercedes. Once it was a great ride, but everyone else already had a ride. Now that it's old and tired, and its days of riding fast and furious are over, the nice guy gets it.
boy, that's completely backwards.
women like nice romantic sex when they're young. IMO,It's not until they've had more experience that they start to enjoy a little more aggressive sex.
You really should cop to the satire here now radar. people might think you're serious. I mean, c'mon. who's gonna take advice about sex from a constitutional scholar?
I'm about as manly as any of you guys in here, and if my friend's wife gave us all hummers while the cowboys beat the eagles, I would "like" his wife more.....I might even visit that friend more often, but respect her more? no. I'm not so superficial as to say that I'd lose all respect for her, but you have to wonder about someone's motives if they do that. I'd actually lose respect for my friend.
btw, this is a great analogy. Nothing like using real world examples to illustrate your point, radar. I know that these round robin blow jobs happen all the time. Now if I can just figure out where........
Radar, Skunks is giving you a face-saving out. Of course you were just joking. Even I, a newbie, have noticed how your posts sparkle with a dry, ironic wit.
And, LJ, your Jinx is a lucky gal. You have shown more understanding of the feminine psyche than any other man so far in this discussion. You are exactly right. At 18 most women still dream of a Prince Charming to sweep them off their feet. As we become more experienced and self confident, we become more interested in those "walks on the wild side." Also, a woman's sexual drive peaks much later than a guy's. A woman's sex drive is higher in her 30's than it was in her teens.
But back to the food vs sex thing. Is it possible to be a supper whore? If you eat, say, three meals a day does this render you debauched and does this vary for men and women? Is a man who consumes two burgers at the same time looked upon with more respect than a woman who does the same? This is the real philosophical question. Is it the action (eating, sex) that is judged or the person performing it?
Originally posted by jaguar
Keep in mind some of this guy's other brilliant suggestions include disbanding the Federal Reserve, the FCC and the FDA.
That's where the man is right, and thus the struggle in dealing with some of the odder beliefs (like Radar's Guide to Chicks) that he puts forth. He's right on the Federal Reserve (which is not a federal agency and has no reserves) and the FCC anyway ... I'm all for
revamping the FDA's drug approval process, but that one I think we need.
Originally posted by OnyxCougar
[COLOR=indigo]... but if I was stuck on a desert island and I had to choose between radar and bruce, Radar would die from lack of sex.[/COLOR]
No question. Bruce and I would be having a wonderful time, carving dodads, among other activities. Radar would be bait.
Originally posted by wolf
No question. Bruce and I would be having a wonderful time, carving dodads, among other activities. Radar would be bait.
Now its my turn to spew coffee all over my lap top! Thank you, Wolf, for starting my day out with a good laugh! Bruce should be flattered by this harem he's aquiring among the female side of the cellurites!:D
Reserve is more complex but the FCC? Imagine a world with no emissions control! Sure they're a bunch of asses and it needs revaming bigtime (and surgical seperation from big business) but their core purpose I see as utterly essential in the age of WiFi, cellphones and computers.
I'm sorry to interrupt but, what does the FCC have to do with sex or food? and what does FCC stand for?
THE FOOD AND COOTCHY COMMISION
Old argument with Radar a long time ago in which he stated he wanted to abolish the FCC. The FCC is the Federal Communications Commission. Their job (among other things) is to make sure that devices to not put out 'dirty' EM interference that screwed up other devices near it and assign/licence radio frequencies. These days it's a massive entity with it's fingers is pretty much everything form of media and communication.
Their job (among other things) is to make sure that devices to not put out 'dirty' EM interference that screwed up other devices near it and assign/licence radio frequencies.
J
Are you saying that Radar is 'dirty'?
I would not classify radar as a device.
So how would you classify him?
Originally posted by jaguar
I would not classify radar as a device.
but would you call him a "tool"?
come on LJ, let's not fight with the other children.
well he'd make a great space heater.
Originally posted by marichiko
Now its my turn to spew coffee all over my lap top! Thank you, Wolf, for starting my day out with a good laugh! Bruce should be flattered by this harem he's aquiring among the female side of the cellurites!:D
No, because it's only in the cyber world. In the real world I don't collect Cellarites, just cellulite.:(
Right here. Right now. we are having a pizza party at our school in engineering class. and I say that Food is definetly more subtle and pleasurable that sex.
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
Right here. Right now. we are having a pizza party at our school in engineering class. and I say that Food is [B]definetly more subtle and pleasurable that sex. [/B]
another mystery solved. you're looking around the room at the engineering females at your school. of course you like food better. once you make the beast with two backs with someone like .......insert hottie here....... you'll start thinking straight again
Originally posted by lumberjim
insert hottie here
Insert hottie
where???
:censored:
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
Right here. Right now. we are having a pizza party at our school in engineering class. and I say that Food is [B]definetly more subtle and pleasurable that sex. [/B]
[COLOR=indigo]And I say you are NOT having sex correctly if food is more pleasurable.[/COLOR]
Originally posted by OnyxCougar
[COLOR=indigo]And I say you are NOT having sex correctly if food is more pleasurable.[/COLOR]
yeah, i might reccomend trying it with a partner before you make your final judgement
I thought at the very least when discussing the subtlety of food we were talking in terms of fine cuisine.......Pizza party in engineering class is not what sprang to my mind *chuckles*
HEY, It's food. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? (Gosh)
But seriously, don't you all think that food is even more private than sex? I mean it in the sense that people don't share it.
ex. Which do you think would happen first in the slums of Los Angeles?
1) a whore intimidating to with someone else
or
2) a crazy person telling someone else to eat his food?
Do you mean that no one shares the individual series of sensations that your taste buds send to your brain when eating a slice of a pizza that everyone is sharing together?
Men and women don't share the same orgasms either, even if they happen to achieve a mutual one. My theory is that men must have very intense orgasms since they generally have to regroup for some amount of time before going on to the next. Women, however, get to have multiple orgasms. I have always wondered if a woman's orgasm wasn't somewhat less intense for that reason. But we'll never know since a woman can't experience what a man feels and visa versa. However, all that aside, I would hardly say that lessens the quality of the experience.
And how can you argue that PIZZA is better than sex? That's stretching it.
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
But seriously, don't you all think that food is even more private than sex?
Are you kidding? There are precious few people in this world willing to let uninvolved parties watch them in the most personal act of fucking. I've never met a single person who had a serious problem with people watching them eat. Food is not private. Take thanksgiving, for example. A large family gathering where everyone enjoys food and drink together, and then they all pass out watching football.
Now imagine that same family involved in a depraved orgy. I'm not really going anywhere with that, just want to put the image in your head.
Anyhow. If sex were less private than food, we would have drive-thru fuckshacks. Not that I'm against that. In fact, if someone here wants to take that idea and run with it, just let me know where its located.
I think what we are really talkin about here is the act of consumption. Whne we are children, prior to discovering our sexual selves, one of the most ( if not the most) intense pleasures is the act of eating or drinking. The taste sensations, are powerful and moving. Children's stories are chock full of food. So.......eating can be an intense pleasure ( possibly why so many people use food as their "drug" of choice)
Originally posted by DanaC
( possibly why so many people use food as their "drug" of choice)
Does that explain the 67% of the U.S. population that is obese or overweight?
any whay, Food is still in the lead. don't agree? then answer me this question.
When a person goes into a bar, pub, or a club, what does he do? does he go to eat? to dance? or to hook up with some one?
why do I hear Questions such as the above almost everyday?
Whatever happened to privacy?
the answer is up to you.
Well, we know that you eat.
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
why do I hear Questions such as the above almost everyday?
Whatever happened to privacy?
the answer is up to you.
that's a yes
Not that there's anything wrong with that...
Originally posted by glatt
Not that there's anything wrong with that...
other than trying to make a comparative argument about it when you've never experienced it....with a partner
Unless you're trying to compare it to something when you have no frame of reference whatsoever.
This is something akin to me trying to compare camping to, oh, say, scuba diving. Have I been camping? Yeah, and I really like doing it. But I've never been scuba diving, so one could reasonably expect me to be unable form a proper comparison. I'm not qualified to make the blanket statement "camping is better than scuba diving". But don't let that stop you, Tomas, you stud you.
Originally posted by perth
Now imagine that same family involved in a depraved orgy. I'm not really going anywhere with that, just want to put the image in your head.
Where was I? I should have been paying attention! How could I have let something like this happen?
All I can say is this: tonight, my mind's eye will be floating dead in a pot of beef vegetable soup.
What are you doing for dinner tonight, perth?
I'm gonna fuck a bowl of macaroni and cheese. Best of both worlds!
They go to drink dumbass.
Originally posted by blue58
They go to drink dumbass.
Yeah but when they have a few drinks, what do they start thinking about, food or sex?:D
Originally posted by blue58
They go to drink dumbass.
Yuck. :vomit:
YEAH, I'm with monkey....what does dumbass taste like?
Very much like smartass, only gamier.
heh.. on a side note..
if the 'web' would dictate what people want more of.. look at the ratio of cooking sites to porn sites.. the ratio is overwhelmingly bent towards porn.. the main problem is that you NEED food to live, but sex makes life much more enjoyable.
and in my opinion (and I've been around the block a couple of times) is that I would rather not have sex with someone I don't like.. or have some sort of emotional bond with (however slight) other than that it's more like two people mastrubating one another.. whereas it might be enjoyable it's not quite 'right'.. on the food side, you can always cook up whatever 'comfort food' you grew up liking, and it's possibly more emotionally satisfying
yeah I do have long hair.. why do you ask :))
One of the matter is that sex is incomunicable verbally compated to food. recepies and the culinary arts have been here for thousands of years. you hear people talk about their food at the Holiday Inn or the Ritz, or other elevated cuisine.
Eating, cooking, and other cullinary arts are a form of art, it requires finesse to produce dishes of great and exquisite delicatessen and standards.
(Ex. I don't suppose y'all have had a "delicate" sex night
or
have heard the saying : yesterday night, my sex tasted like chicken.:rolleyes:
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
recepies and the culinary arts have been here for thousands of years.
what came first, the laying or the egg?
Originally posted by lumberjim
what came first, the laying or the egg?
the question is really: When was the last time that after a sex session you or your partner said that it tasted like chicken or that it was " a delicate, Subtle, and/or refreshing sex.
I can't recall the last time I heard that said about food, outside of fictional gourmand characters.
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
the question is really: When was the last time that after a sex session you or your partner said that it tasted like chicken or that it was " a delicate, Subtle, and/or refreshing sex.
Tomas, the question is really: What the FUCK are you talking about? What does sex have to do with tasting like anything?
And if you cannot communicate verbally about sex, there's something wrong with YOU, not the act itself.
I find this especially humourous:
it requires finesse to produce dishes of great and exquisite delicatessen and standards.
Anybody can have sex, but if you expect to get invited back, you had better learn some finesse.
I'm tired of listening to you argue this retarded point. You're comparing apples and oranges and it's obvious you've either never had an apple or you tried to eat it with your ear.
Re: Tomas
from his profile
Birthday May 27, 1988
Leave the kid alone..if I know anything it is how messed up you can be about these things at his age.
Originally posted by perth
You're comparing apples and oranges and it's obvious you've either never had an apple or [color=green]you tried to eat it with your ear.[/color]
STILL WIPING THE TEARS AWAY.....
dishes of great and exquisite delicatessen and standards.
what? .....like a Reuben?
Originally posted by lumberjim
what? .....like a Reuben?
Is that what the kids are calling it nowadays?
Originally posted by perth
I'm tired of listening to you argue this retarded point. You're comparing apples and oranges and it's obvious you've either never had an apple or you tried to eat it with your ear.
I am not completely clear as to what point is being argued. Is it that food is "like" sex? Or not like sex? Or can even be compared to sex? Or any of the above swapped around? Maybe I just need to go back and reread this 12 page thread.
Yes, apples to oranges is a good way to say it because the two are on completely different levels. However, food and sex both have a discrete effect on our senses. Take foods like candy, for instance. We eat it, not out of necessity, but for enjoyment. Sometimes we eat just because we are hungry. But sometimes, people fuck or masturbate because they physically "need" to. Maybe this is a loose connection, but I think that may be the only way in which the two relate.
Originally posted by Yelof
Leave the kid alone..if I know anything it is how messed up you can be about these things at his age.
[COLOR=indigo]We didn't start the thread. He did. By now you should know if you open your mouth wide enough, the people here are going to shove your foot in it as far as they can. If he can't take the heat, he should get out of the bedroom.[/COLOR]
Or bring someone else in with some ice-cold drinks.
Or just some ice. Then you can rub it all over each other and eat it afterwards. Does that blur the debate? Is that 'food' and 'sex' at the same time? Has this issue been covered? Lets talk about it!
Catwoman still visibly enthusiastic after the group sex thread
catwoman: I was not expecting that said by you. as far as I can remember you were the first person to argue about the point.
Perth: IT'S AN INNOCENT, RIDICULOUS QUESTION THAT I ASKED!!!
and now I know why I should not have posted my B-day in.
(sighs)
and now that you know that I'm 15 going on 16, you know that I haven't experienced sex on its fullness.
O well, I thought that this website was kind of like a College or scholar forum where Big, inexplicable words roamed.
One point still remains: yesterday, I ate a pear, and I masturbated afterwards, and I believe that the pear was better
Dont take it to heart Tomas. *smiles* We're just teasing you. When you are a little older you'll understand why we all found it so funny. That aside, you raised some interesting points, you just werent truly able to compare the two yourself. hence we took umbrage ( mildly) at your seeming insistence that one is better than the other.
Seriously, there is a world of difference between masturbating and getting down and dirty with someone who presses all the right buttons and who is just dying for you to press some of hers ( or his, I'd hate to make an assumption there )
When you are a little more experienced in matters carnal, I suggest you think back to this thread and ask yourslef the same question you asked us. You may find your opinion has altered quite drastically, you may not but it would be based on a comparison of both rather than experience of one and mere fantasies of the other.
No matter how much I try to imagine the taste of chocolate ( and when I was a child on a sugar free diet I imagined this a lot) I can only capture the faintest echo of the true taste. It feels quite strong and similar to me at the time, but the instant I eat a bar of chocolate I know I have merely fooled myself into thinking that.
Dana,
correct me if I'm Wrong, you are saying that I need more experience to talk about this???
Here is my point, This forum is comprised mostly of middle-aged people, (24-48)
if I started to talk about teenage topics, everybody would show me the door and maybe even be expelled by Undertoad.
so i thought: Ok, what do Middle-aged people mostly talk about?
and then I thought, : Ok, What do I like?
I combined the 2 together and voila! this thread was born >}}}*> <*{{{<
Tomas you got it wrong..middle aged people talk about boring things
wars and house prices etc
don't come back until you are boring enough, hit the books and get boring for us, thats an order!
obligitory woody allen quote
"don't knock masturbation, its sex with someone you love"
sorry for outing you as a teenager...but did he just call us middle aged :worried:
Y'know I believe he did! But hey.....if the zimmerframe fits....
Tomas, read my last response again please. I did not say you shuoldnt talk about this until you are older or more experienced. I merely pointed out that you are not qualified to compare the two if you only have experience of the one. Not that you cant have an opinion of which may or may not be better.....Just that you were rather emphatic in your assertions that the one you have experienced is better than the one you have not.....
.....Dont feel you have to pander to us in your topics of conversation. Talk about what interests you, just dont be surprised if some of us hold firm opinions on all kinds of things. You never know who might post in agreement and who might turn it into a miniflamewar.
Trust me Tomas if I were to start a thread entitled How men Think and then proceed to give my opinions on how a man's mind works ( or doesnt *grins*) there would be a pile up on the cellar steps of people rushing to tell me I didnt know what the fuck I was talking about.
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
Dana,
correct me if I'm Wrong, you are saying that I need more experience to talk about this???
No, it's good to explore your feelings on things, even when you don't have a frame of reference. What is bad is when you start making blanket statements like this one:
and I say that Food is definetly more subtle and pleasurable that sex.
Fact is, you don't know. Food *can be* but *is* is far too definite a term when you obviously aren't old enough to know. When you are, you'll realise how ridiculous statements like that are.
So my problem is not that you have an opinion. My problem is that you've formed the opinion having precious few facts and experiences to back it up.
if I started to talk about teenage topics, everybody would show me the door and maybe even be expelled by Undertoad.
Well, that depends really. There's a lot of topics here that would appeal to both teenagers and us "old folk". Music, movies, video games, books. If you have an intellectual bent, and I suspect you do, there's politics, religion, philosophy and anything else that interests you. Even sex. Just keep an open mind, and try to avoid the broad gerneralisations unless you have the facts to back it up. It's okay to be a teenager here, just don't pull an April and you'll be fine.
Originally posted by DanaC
if I were to start a thread entitled How men Think and then proceed to give my opinions on how a man's mind works ( or doesnt *grins*) there would be a pile up on the cellar steps of people rushing to tell me I didnt know what the fuck I was talking about.
Yeah, but how much fun would that be? C'mon, I really wanna hear about this.
Originally posted by OnyxCougar
We didn't start the thread. He did.
Know your target audience, though it is rather hard to do when you're on a BBS and know little about the people with whom you converse.
I think thats why people who lurk for a while before posting tend to stay around longer and contribute more.
Seriously, we see all these ""Hi guys! just found your forum! Think I'll stick around" posts from people who never ever ever post again. But when someone new comes on and they don't start with a faux pas, it's almost always learned later on that they lurked for a month or two and already knew us pretty well.
Ok, I read what dana and perth had to say and I agree.
But
two questions still linger : 1) what do we do with this thread? so far its 13pages long and I suspect that is no longer relevant.
and
2) originally posted by Yelof:
don't come back until you are boring enough, hit the books and get boring for us, thats an order!
Are y'all tired of me asking ridiculous questions or does the statement above implies for me to leave?
from Tomas
Are y'all tired of me asking ridiculous questions or does the statement above implies for me to leave?
I don't think I've been posting here enough to have dismissal powers (
I have however been on the planet long enough ;) )
No I was just trying to be self depreciating about middle :eek: aged interests while at the same time steer you towards reading more books. Books are cool.
Stick around but be yourself, if you think your subject of limited interest start a new thread. You may have been giving opions on a subject you are not yet qualified to, but in general we've been having fun on your thread.
1. Let the thread do whatever it does. Who cares?
2. What Yelof said. Don't leave. I'm sorry I was a dick.
And you did a good job starting a thread that has had over a hundred posts already. If it was a bad idea to start, nobody would have joined in.
Yeah, Tomas, its cool. Stick around, for what my opinion is worth since I'm new here myself. I didn't lurk at all, just jumped right in and got all kinds of people mad at me and called Wolf a guy, but I haven't been excommunicated yet, so what the hell? I love your thought that 24 is middle-aged. I guess that officially makes me a pre-historic fossil. I hope nobody decides to burn me as fuel!
No problem apologies acepted, just one question? What do y'all talk about? I have pondered on this question for too long (and also I have been on the egde of leaving this forum twice so far)
Not wanting to make it thrice, I ask : What thoughts and concerns do you people converse in here everyday?
I mean, its not like I started this thread by: I believe that if the lenght of the hand is longer than that of te foot means that one masturbates to much.
any way, just my opinion (Maybe I shouldn't have said that, I realy have to shove my fist into my mouth
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
Not wanting to make it thrice, I ask : What thoughts and concerns do you people converse in here everyday?
Check it out, there's a list,
here! ;)
Thanks HM:)
Glatt what do you mean with this:?
And you did a good job starting a thread that has had over a hundred posts already.
Is it really hard to make people chatter,cringe, and cry over a simple opinion? At first I thought I was going to receive maybe just 30-50 posts.
Anywhay: Thanks for the feedback.
Hey, man, don't take everything so seriously. This place is all about opinions and people getting offended/having fun/making fun/disagreeing with them. It's a GOOD thing if your thread gets 100 posts. Means people are interested in what you are saying. Anyway, glad to see you are getting involved.
And on that note, even if someone seriously tells you to leave (and Yelof wasn't really being serious) you shouldn't listen to them--that's what people do here, they disagree with each other. If everyone agreed there would be nothing to discuss.
Case's Title: The perthless wonder
Oh, geez. You can do better than that. LJ, help her out here. :)
better than "recently unperthed."
how about:
afterperth....it rhymes with afterbirth
a nithe perthon
don't take me perthonally
sorry, "perth" is a motherfucker to work into a good title line
Those were fucking great. I figured it might require that the "th" be treated as a lisped "s". I really like "Afterperth".
how bout suPerthluous and Case dismissed
That's a good one too. :)
Originally posted by Undertoad
Deperthonithized
That's good, too.
Say, who hijacked this thread, anyway?
i'll hit you with my perth, you bathtard! i'll scratch your eyes out!
Originally posted by jinx
Anti-perthpirant
AH! WE HAVE A WINNER!
I agree. That one is very good.
It is VERY good, although the judge might be a tad preJIMdiced! ;)
Yea, he's just trying to get laid...
or fed
......remember the original thread topic.
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
Here is my point, This forum is comprised mostly of middle-aged people, (24-48)
Laughs hysterically at the thought of someone who considers 24 to be middle aged ...
Hey, at least you are not elderly and/or disabled (65->>>)
So if "elderly" is over 65, and "middle aged" is 24 - 48, then what are 49 - 64 year olds?
Mature Adults
Did we just get patronised?
Tomas, I don't know what the range is in Spain, but middle age here in the US is generally 40-60.
Ok.
here are the range groups that I have developed. they are not, in any way legal, nor are they used in common lang.
0-9mths. babies
10mths - 3yrs toddlers
4-7 kids
8-10 pre-teens
10-19 teens
20-24 adolescents
24-48 middle-aged
which comprise of
24-35 young adults
36-48 mature adults
48-65 ????>>> My nomenclature doesn't reach. Help!
65->> Elderly
So I'm both middle-aged and a young adult? I'm torn between wanting to be flattered and wanting to express outrage. :)
Ha Hah. You've got some weird ideas there, Tomas. Interesting.
I especially enjoyed the "20-24 adolescents" one.
I know some 24 year olds that would definitely qualify as adolescent. Some even older than that.
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
Hey, at least you are not elderly and/or disabled (65->>>)
I'm disabled and beyond the help of nomenclature (or anything else, including God). Does this mean you won't speak to me anymore, Tomas? Say it ain't so!:p
No, I'm not going to stop talking to any of you. But 2 major events might happen during the summer
1- well, school's over, so I can't talk to you from school.
2-My 3 month free period from AOL is due on 18 or 19 of June which might mean no Internet from home either.
here is an idea. Tell me which ISP (internet service provider) would be within a reasonable range ($10 and down/month) I am not asking for high speed or DSL, just good ol' fashioned dial-up
with that over. yes, it is facinating the way it seems, ever since you are 24 you become both middle-aged and a young adult.
I'm 15 going on 16, so I don't have to really worry.
1- well, school's over, so I can't talk to you from school.
2-My 3 month free period from AOL is due on 18 or 19 of June which might mean no Internet from home either.
Suddenly, everything makes sense.
Considering I was about the same age when I started here I really should be more forgiving. Should.
Jesus the concept of me being considered middle aged is more than a little scary.
Originally posted by jaguar
Jesus the concept of me being considered middle aged is more than a little scary.
Hah! Hah! Just you wait until you ARE middle-aged, Jag. It happens faster than you think. Yesterday, I was only 20 years old and flying over the mouth of the Amazon for the first time, watching the colors of fresh water from that giant river mingle with the color of the ocean's salty waves. I was getting ready to land in Belem where the air smelled like flowers and I didn't speak a word of Portuguese and no one there spoke a word of English. I woke up this morning to discover myself turned into a fossil overnight, but life continues to be an adventure, so what the hell?
evil woman!!! Now I`m going to be lieing in bed unable to sleep because of nightmares.
Originally posted by jaguar
evil woman!!! Now I`m going to be lieing in bed unable to sleep because of nightmares.
I love destroying the illusions of the innocent young! Step into my gingerbread house, little boy! (cackles evilly).:D
mummy make the bad woman go away :P
You could do her doggy style or put a bag on her head. It's just a matter of how many beers you've had. Bad sex is better than no sex assuming it's not forced, and not against your own sexual preference.
No doubt you speak from experience. Was she your prom date?:D
No, my prom date was Karen Schierhoff, a lovely strawberry blond 16 year old, whom I later deflowered. :)
Originally posted by Radar
No, my prom date was Karen Schierhoff, a lovely strawberry blond 16 year old, whom I later deflowered. :)
ahh, those good ol' days. you never forget them.
Originally posted by jaguar
Considering I was about the same age when I started here I really should be more forgiving. Should.
But, when you "started here" were you in the midst of a bunch of other people of similar age?
Or was there a whole crop of (pardon the expression) "middle-aged" folks hanging out?
marichiko: I know what you mean about the fossilization. That's exactly how my knees feel most mornings!!
Originally posted by Radar
No, my prom date was Karen Schierhoff, a lovely strawberry blond 16 year old, whom I later deflowered. :)
A gentleman does not "kiss and tell," but then I never suspected you of being one, anyhow.
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
ahh, those good ol' days. you never forget them.
Yes, you do.
only old people do :P
I don`t get that post coming from him though.
I don't either. But I'm "middle-aged", which is practically "geriatric" so I'm probably not expected to understand much.
Has anyone seen my Geritol?
Thank you...where's my hearing aid?
A gentleman does not "kiss and tell," but then I never suspected you of being one, anyhow.
The 10 year statute of limitations on not talking about it passed 8 years ago. And I am a gentleman. I'm just not a sucker.
Originally posted by Radar
The 10 year statute of limitations on not talking about it passed 8 years ago. And I am a gentleman. I'm just not a sucker.
The statute of limitations on such matters is a life time one, as any lady would inform you.
Originally posted by perth
I don't either. But I'm "middle-aged", which is practically "geriatric" so I'm probably not expected to understand much.
:D :D :D :D
y'all make me laugh. I didn't say that Middle aged meant geriatric. is more like either senile or active
or in other perspective: the glass is filled right at the middle. to some is half empty, to others half full. it just depends on the person.
so the question is; who in here considers him/her-self senile and who is active?
The beauty of senility is that nobody who has it knows it.
I'm senile. No question. (I'm definitely not active!!!)
Tomas if you are suggesting that a person of 24 has reached their half way point then you have a very pessimistic view of the average lifespan:P
I think you meant sessile.
Originally posted by DanaC
Tomas if you are suggesting that a person of 24 has reached their half way point then you have a very pessimistic view of the average lifespan:P
the average lifespan is 72 years for men and 75 for women. divide those digits by 2 and you get 36 and 37.5 respectively.
however, that is just math. Demographically people retire from work at 65.
and Webster's definition of Senile is: adj. [L. senilis, from sen-, senex; old old man.] sumited in 1661 1-of, relating to, exhibiting, or charactheristic of old age. <~ weakness> especially: exhibiting a loss of mental faculties associated with old age.
CHECK YOURSELFYes but you said senile or active,
sessile being the opposite of active.
the average lifespan is 72 years for men and 75 for women. divide those digits by 2 and you get 36 and 37.5 respectively.
Indeed....which is why I was suggesting that 24 is a rather low midway point.....Even if you took it from retirement age you still only end up with a midway point of 32/33.......and thats another thing...We were discussing age in relation to lifespan so it is kind of irrelevant how old or young people are at retirement. The only statistic relevant to the discussion of where to place the midway marker is how long you live not how long you work :P
Originally posted by DanaC
Indeed....which is why I was suggesting that 24 is a rather low midway point.....Even if you took it from retirement age you still only end up with a midway point of 32/33.......and thats another thing...We were discussing age in relation to lifespan so it is kind of irrelevant how old or young people are at retirement. The only statistic relevant to the discussion of where to place the midway marker is how long you live not how long you work :P
ooops, my misstake. Ok , so the true middle-age is between 32-35. let me change the table.
Ok.
here are the range groups that I have developed. they are not, in any way legal, nor are they used in common lang.
0-9mths. babies
10mths - 3yrs toddlers
4-7 kids
8-10 pre-teens
10-19 teens
20-24 adolescents
24-48 adults
which comprise of
24-31 young adults
32-35 middle aged
36-64 mature adults
65->> Elderly
Now, How's That?
Being sessile doesn't apply for the people who stay in the computer 24-7 because of work. it applies to the people who stay in the computer 24-7 because of fun.:rolleyes:
Y'know, when I was in 6th grade we were asked to make a person up and write a biography running from birth to death. The details of the story I wrote escape me now, save one. I got to around 50 years old and got bored with the story and decided to kill him off.
At the age of 50, so-and-so died of old age.
My 12 year old mind thought this was a pretty clever way to end the story. But I vividly remember being called to my teacher's desk the next day. I slowly approached, wondering why on earth, what could I have possibly done, to cause my teacher to call me on the carpet with such obvious anger and irritation. I stood in front of her desk and awaited whatever was coming. She handed my paper back to me, and said six words:
Fifty is not old. Fix this.
Looking back, I imagine she was probably slightly older than 50 at the time, and I really liked her, but I get a chuckle out of that to this day.
I think that the younger you are, the more skewed your perception of age is. I'm 26 and I still have no real concept of what 50 will be like. I think Tomas suffers from this condition just the same as most if not all of us did (do).
Originally posted by Catwoman
Yes but you said senile or active, sessile being the opposite of active.
Senile people can be very active.
That's why you see so many old folks with alzheimers on then news being described as "missing from home" and is also why they have to put anti-theft tags on the old folks on dementia units ... they keep trying to elope. The tag sets off an alarm to alert staff that it's time to chase them.
Some senile people are far too ative, look at Murdoch.
10-19 teens
20-24 adolescents
That`s pretty harsh on a 24y.o.
This needs seperate scales for men and women, I know some girls in primary school that are far more mature that 30 year old guys I know.
wolf - lol, that was funny, although I don't know if it was supposed to be :)
It's kind of tragicomic, really.
I just had visions of old people moving really fast in the wrong direction like when you skip a dvd and it kind of jumps and the characters look all confused
Originally posted by jaguar
This needs seperate scales for men and women, I know some girls in primary school that are far more mature that 30 year old guys I know.
The scale for both men and women, but particularly women, would have to go backwards for a time, and I don't mean during senility.
Originally posted by perth
Y'know, when I was in 6th grade we were asked to make a person up and write a biography running from birth to death. The details of the story I wrote escape me now, save one. I got to around 50 years old and got bored with the story and decided to kill him off.
At the age of 50, so-and-so died of old age.
[i]Fifty is not old. Fix this.[/i
I think that the younger you are, the more skewed your perception of age is. I'm 26 and I still have no real concept of what 50 will be like. I think Tomas suffers from this condition just the same as most if not all of us did (do).
Here's me preparing for my upcoming funeral sine I am now 50:
Realise of course, Marichiko, that I no longer think 50 is old. :)
When I was 15, I remember very clearly that my 40 year old mum was hot enough looking to draw comment from male classmates and the odd teacher...I also remember that my 70 year old Nan was in the latter stages of Alzheimers and that she had suddenly gone from seeming not so old to seeming very old....I recall my class being asked by our English teacher to discuess what we meant by "old age" ....I clearly recall that I thought middle aged meant about 50. When I read a description of someone in the newspaper being "middle aged" what always sprang to mind for me was someone of about that age. 40's didnt seem ld enough for middle age, because middle age was something quite staid, and dull and I knew lots of 40 year olds who didnt seem that way at all.....
Was quite a shock really to get into my middle twenties and discover I was only half a decade or so from being what many consider middle aged :P Now I have the additonal curveball that so many of the women in my life are vibrant, kickass, goodlookin women in their 50's and 60s......So now I am having to rewrite what I imagined being 50 to mean:P
Originally posted by perth
Realise of course, Marichiko, that I no longer think 50 is old. :)
Such a nice young man! Of course you may help me across the street.;)
I figure. the perception of age becomes clouded the afrther away it is. Like a ship 20 miles into the ocean can't really distinguish a light in the night as either a lighthouse or a beacon by sight. yet at 5 miles or so it is distinguishable.
thus the closer you are to a certain age then you can tell how does it feel.
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
I figure. the perception of age becomes clouded the afrther away it is. Like a ship 20 miles into the ocean can't really distinguish a light in the night as either a lighthouse or a beacon by sight. yet at 5 miles or so it is distinguishable.
thus the closer you are to a certain age then you can tell how does it feel.
Oh, Grasshopper! For one so young, you are indeed wise!;)
{Columbus, Cristopher; 1492. 20 miles off-shore of the Americas.}
Land, ho. Sail 14 degrees west... oops. never mind, let's go back to Spain.:rolleyes:
...and thus America was not discovered until 200 years later. The End.:rolleyes:
Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, indeed), my young friend, unlike Columbus, time gives you no choice but to keep moving forward. You WILL "discover America" whether you want to or not.;)
"Middle Age is 10 years ahead of where you are now"
--Mrs. Dallas
Thank Mrs Dallas profusely. I thought it was 10 years behind me.:)
Originally posted by marichiko
Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, indeed), my young friend, unlike Columbus, time gives you no choice but to keep moving forward. You WILL "discover America" whether you want to or not.;)
Does that mean that things are already planed out for us? You know, there are some scientists who believe that a thing does not exitst until someone places his/her gaze on it.
ex. there is a metal ball suspended above a trianglular wedge. on the sides of the wedge are buttons that activate two different circuits: 1- a mini-computer connected to a mini-robot that paints red. 2- a similar circuit like the above but it paints blue.
Everything above is contained in a sound-proof box.
question : How do you know which circuit has been activated without opening the box? the ball has 50-50 chance to fall either way.
hint: some scientists believe that both colors are painted on to the wall until some one opens the box and finds out that it had been painted of a certain color.
Originally posted by wolf
The cat is dead.
Schoedinger's dog got it.
To answer your question, Tomas. No I do not believe in fate or predestination or something like that. But when it comes to getting older, you have two choices. You can die and avoid progressing any further in age or you can continue to live your life. If you continue to live your life, you have no choice other than to experience 20, 30, 40 etc.
YOU won't exist as a 20 year old until time takes you to that point, so in that sense the age of 20 is a hypothetical question for you. You can make a construct of age 20, paint it 5 different colors, and place a dead cat inside, but when you finally open up that gift wrapped box on your 20th birthday, the one you have no choice but to open up because it beats the alternative, don't be surprised if a dalmation leaps out.;)
Originally posted by marichiko
Schoedinger's dog got it.
Well, at least there is no dead cat, just painted boxes.
I'm 16 and when I was 5, I did not imagined the realities of being a teenager. In fact, I thought the way the average teenager acts was reserved for wild, skateboarding-like people.
oh, well. God only gives you one slice of life, no second servings whatsoever. So why don't we experience it to the fullest?
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
God only gives you one slice of life, no second servings whatsoever. So why don't we experience it to the fullest?
That's only a valid question if you believe that sort of thing.
Well, whether you believe it or not, he does have a point. No one can prove anything either way in that arena, as we have discussed over and over again here. Let's rephrase the question so as to avoid offending the hypersensitive :
Why not live life to it's fullest?
There, now that it's had all religious context removed, we're free to dicuss the point Tomas was trying to make.
Originally posted by perth
Let's rephrase the question so as to avoid offending the hypersensitive :
Not hypersensitive but assinine and querulous I'll admit.
i gotta agree with, ts. first of all, who can prove that there is a god. second of all, who says you only get one trip?
but more importantly: don;t speak in cliches....that makes my skin crawl. ..."live life to it's fullest"....... blech.
Originally posted by lumberjim
i gotta agree with, ts. first of all, who can prove that there is a god. second of all, who says you only get one trip?
Well, that's kind of my point. You can't prove it either way. Personally I believe I get one trip and when I die, I die, and my body either rots slowly or burns quickly. And that's about it. But I can't prove it. Based on my beliefs I really should be getting out there and enjoying life rather than moping around feeling sorry for myself. But imagining for a moment that I believe in reincarnation, I still don't have any excuse for not making the most of my life, because I can't prove that either.
Originally posted by Troubleshooter
Not hypersensitive but assinine and querulous I'll admit.
My hypersensitive comment wasn't really directed at you, TS, so please don't take it personally.
It was directed at just about
fucking everyone on this board, myself included.
Edit: added the "just about"Originally posted by perth
My hypersensitive comment wasn't really directed at you, TS, so please don't take it personally.
It was directed at just about fucking everyone on this board, myself included.
Edit: added the "just about"
Oooh, do you have a hate list, too, like Radar? Keep in mind that no reply is a reply these days. As far as "live life to its fullest," LJ, we could always say "Go for the gusto!" - one of my own personal most hated cliche's. ;)
Originally posted by marichiko
Oooh, do you have a hate list, too, like Radar?
No, I apologise. I am extremely pissy today. The only person I have ever ignored was Radar, but I couldn't keep it that way. It's like passing a wreck on the side of the road, y'know? You just can't help but look. It's a reflex.
Originally posted by perth
No, I apologise. I am extremely pissy today. The only person I have ever ignored was Radar, but I couldn't keep it that way. It's like passing a wreck on the side of the road, y'know? You just can't help but look. It's a reflex.
No need to apologize to me. I just couldn't resist the urge to pull your tail a little. Probably, I should apologize to YOU. Being put on an "enemies list" does tend to make one want to live up to the expectation, but enough about that.
Originally posted by marichiko
No need to apologize to me. I just couldn't resist the urge to pull your tail a little. Probably, I should apologize to YOU. Being put on an "enemies list" does tend to make one want to live up to the expectation, but enough about that.
huh. wait until your first should marichiko be booted poll ;)
Originally posted by lumberjim
huh. wait until your first should marichiko be booted poll ;)
Well, I think that was rather unsporting, but at the end of it all, you and Sycamore did shake hands like gentlemen (sort of), and I was impressed by that. Neither one of you flounced off to pout like Radar has. Truely, I'm really pleased at the thought of him no longer responding to my posts. One less irritant in my day.;)
One less irritant in my day.
Also one less stimulus to "think" about what you're posting.;)
Originally posted by marichiko
No need to apologize to me.
Well, I figure I need to apologise to just about everyone I've had social contact with today. Here is a good place to start.
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
Also one less stimulus to "think" about what you're posting.;)
True enough, but that's out of my control. I've never put ANYONE on my ignore list. I'm interested in debating the topics and how can you have a debate if you ignore everyone who doesn't agree with you? In this case, all I can do is look at the bright side. Its out of my hands.
About the living live to the fullest, doesn't it make you think that there are fellow celarites that are underground: hidden from everyone's eyes. remember in the beginning that the cellar asked you to be not noticed and sign in as a guest?
My appeal is to those people that have a posting rate of 20/1year or less. Those people, whom in society might be the working class, living close to downtown. They work tiresly day after day in places like school districts, restaurants, cafeterias, etc. who, because of low income(such as April (IRS)) they have to go to garage sales, Goodwill, The Salvation Army, not to get stuff for themselves, but to get it for their children.
here is my point. People with a nice paying gig, don't concern themselves about living: they often talk a lot(noticeable in the cellar), they think they know a lot(they noticed the cellar and said: "hey, here is a place where I can throw my garbage in"), and in the end, they become the stiff-necked people in retirement homes complaining about the Government, high medicine prices, insurance, social security, their condition, and the modern generation, plus a milliard of other things.
but what about the working class? the people, whom because society has financially placed low, work hard day after day for their food in the pantry, the happiness of their children, and the welfare of everyone in the family. some barely achieve the higher standard and buy themselves a computer and find the cellar online. they think,"finnaly, a place where I can discuss my problems confidentially."
The sad part is that most of the people in here are like the 3rd paragraph. this makes the people in the 4th paragraph to remain silent.
Uh. I may be misunderstanding you, but what it sounds like you're saying is this:
The more money you have, the more you talk.
Could you clarify?
in Short. Do you greet the people who clean the office where you work in?
Not anymore, and I'll tell you why. Those fuckers are notorious for stealing shit from people's desks. My colleagues and I have had water bottles, hats, books, and countless other things disappear overnight when they are the only people with access to the building. At least 3 have been dismissed because they were caught on camera doing it. So that's a bad example.
But the statement is ridiculous anyway. To say poor people in this country keep quiet because they have less money is silly. You're talking about the people who never stop bitching about their lot in life, rather than go out and do something about it. The Cellar is the way it is because reasonably intelligent people find a voice here. Not because we all make a fuckton of money (we don't) but because there are other reasonably intelligent (and a few extraordinarily intelligent) people who post here.
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
in Short. Do you greet the people who clean the office where you work in?
Yes. By Name. And the administration is VERY sincerely addressed by and addresses everyone by first name.
But why the hell is that relevant?
It's not, Wolf. I'm not sure why I'm even trying.
On my part it's largely because it's an active thread ... posting is kind of a reflex, and the stimulus is sometimes less unpleasant than getting whacked on the knee with a hammer.
Well, for my part I think it's because I'm feeling petulant lately, and because Tomas is an easy target. That's really not very fair of me, but there it is.
Originally posted by perth
Well, for my part I think it's because I'm feeling petulant lately, and because Tomas is an easy target. That's really not very fair of me, but there it is.
[SIZE=3]I Heard That!!![/SIZE] :p
oh well,
Not anymore, and I'll tell you why. Those fuckers are notorious for stealing shit from people's desks. My colleagues and I have had water bottles, hats, books, and countless other things disappear overnight when they are the only people with access to the building. At least 3 have been dismissed because they were caught on camera doing it. So that's a bad example.
Perth, Don't you think that those people would be a little nicer if they were treated more nicer by your Boss/CEO/Chairman/President/Overseer/Manager/.... you get the point.
BTW, What does White-Collared mean? I've heard White-Collared and Blue-Collared and I have searched Google, yet no sign of meaning nearby.
white-collar = office workers, versus blue-collar = honest labor, "working class"
It is an older idiom, and is not used as often as it once was.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH.
Thanks UT for expanding my vocaboulary a bit.
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
About the living live to the fullest, doesn't it make you think that there are fellow celarites that are underground: hidden from everyone's eyes. remember in the beginning that the cellar asked you to be not noticed and sign in as a guest?
My appeal is to those people that have a posting rate of 20/1year or less. Those people, whom in society might be the working class, living close to downtown. They work tiresly day after day in places like school districts, restaurants, cafeterias, etc. who, because of low income(such as April (IRS)) they have to go to garage sales, Goodwill, The Salvation Army, not to get stuff for themselves, but to get it for their children.
here is my point. People with a nice paying gig, don't concern themselves about living:
how the hell do you know what people with good paying gigs think about? I have a good paying gig. I worked my ass off to get it. I did it because i DO want to"live life the the fullest" you stupid asshole. IQ of 136? yeah. People in factories and bus stations that earn just enough to squeak by are the ones NOT living life to its fullest.
This is the 4th or 5th just fucking stupid post of yours i've read tonight. I'm afraid i'm going to have to ask you to step away from the computer. You are not yet ready for the cellar. Now go and boil your bottom, you son of a silly person. Your mother was a hampster and your father smelt of ....elderberries.
I agree with you, but you do know this dickwad is 15 years old right?
yeah, thats part of my issue with him. i know he cant do anything about that, but when i was 15, i wasnt trying to school my teachers about the philosophy of things, and talking outof my ass at every turn. somehow, if he was 30 or so, id just think he was crazy. at 15, it sounds like arrogance.
Been there, done that, if he actually does have a few brain cells he'll grow out of it soon enough assuming he's in the right environment.
I think the phrase you're looking for LJ is 'you second hand electric donkey bottom biter'. Oh and there's no p is hamster. On that note I bring you....
realhamster , which should be enough to divert any flamewar.
but when i was 15, i wasnt trying to school my teachers about the philosophy of things, and talking outof my ass at every turn.
When did it start, then?:p
<aghast and speechless with a blank mind for 5 Min...>
I know I do not please people. I am not Hugh Jakcman or Jim Carrey:rolleyes: . but If I gave a description of me, it would not matter since I cannot applaud myself.
and I know, LJ, that noones life is a smooth ride. in fact, everyone shares the pain, the agony, the shame, and those other feelings that are the MSG in the cake of life.
Well... what can I say. I have tried the culinary VS. the erotic. I ahve tried the Faith(sadly according to me) and I have even tried the placing a rope around the neck(should Tomas Be booted off the cellar)
but all have falied to give the impression of the Gesundheit!!!:confused:
Oh well, what can I do. My internet is canceling next week and Im' screwed with y'all. I do not know whether to congratulate myself or wish myself good lick. (ooops, Luck)
the only one thing that comes to mind is to greet people farewell.
gd'bye Radar
see ya Elspode
nice chatting xoxoxoBruce
Au Revoir Jumberjim
tu-tos blue
Et tu, Undertoad
×ôÓäʤ顡wolf
Adios perth
ciao jaguar...(this list shall continue unless otherwise told not to)
You can't please everyone, so you've got to please yourself.
If you were that bad, you would have been ignored. ;)
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
If you were that bad, you would have been ignored.
That's precicely what I have been.
even though I started threads that are more than 100 replies long, people answered just to see themselves talking. just like xoxoxoBruce said: [COLOR=darkblue]it's a reflex to answer threads[/COLOR] or so.
in a very simplified form, I said pip, the next guy says pop, the next one cop, top, toc, tic, tick, tack, tackle, packle, tackle, tickle, pickle, nickle, sickle, cell, tell, william, apple, dapple, maple, tree, tee, golf, woods, tiger, jack, nicholson, nick, ol' nick, santa claus, christmas, gifts, wrapper, rapper, JZ, JC, Jesus Christ, Christianism, World, Europe, England, Westminster Abbey, Scotland, Ireland, Bagpipes, Cork, cork, wine, sour, lemons, limes, lemonade, Irish Lemonade, yellow, colorblind, green, mint, chewing, gum, disease, deceaced, people, dancing, sideways, forward, up, tall, short, crummy, politics.
...And you ask me what does PIP and Politics have in common?!?!?!?
you've provoked a bit of discussio, not all of which has been bad, cut the melodramatics and when you get back online you should be fine. I'm too distracted by apple's new wireless thingy to be in a bad mood tonight.
deji sumi kami miji diji queni genji yimi tomi sali whali piki deji himi
fiji tenji digi teli omi teri ...
àù÷ê ëçï'ã ëç÷ï'í ÷ï'ùí÷ë ëç÷íùóïí÷ë ì òöãïäøïí äøòïòøóíòí ïðòãçøò òãíîòøòãíòø òãçòóøîã ìòçøíçòøïøç øíïò øíãø÷à úî ìò õ
τελε σκοπειν ηλενικοσ Στεφανοσ
you might not understand what I have just written in Hebrew and Greek. but as I tell you, it does not meang anything.
this thread is basically the same difference.
the MSG in the cake of life
Is it wrong for me to laugh so hard at that?
Nope that was pretty funny
Tomas that was not Hebrew and the Greek was just a collection of letters. Just because you found the foreign typeface key on your computer doesn't mean we're going to believe you're multilingual. Tut.
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
Oh well, what can I do. My internet is canceling next week
This is my favorite out-of-context phrase of the week.
you see what I mean? I don't even have the slightest sense of humor, let alone common sense.
<sighs and shrugs shoulders> decaf strong rocks with a twist, please!!!
decaf strong rocks with a twist, please!!!
Are you dyslexic?
I wonder what a strong decaf, on the rocks with a twist of lemon would taste like.
I tried to invent a drink that sounds like a bar drink yet is extremely nasty.
...and no, I'm not dyslexic. (Btw, what does Dyslexic mean?)
Well, you achieved that.
Dyslexia is a little hard to pin down, like most mental disorders really, it is most commonly associated with switching words or letters when writing or reading but often includes things like shorter attention span and a multitude of other quirks. Also like many other mental disorders it does have an upside, dyslexics are often very bright and capable of thinking in ways that most people can't. Dyslexics tend to be visual thinkers and good at approaching problems that require a multidimensional approach.
While I have very mild dyslexica (if you look closely you might notice it sometimes here, particularly when I'm very tired). The key to living with it is to work out learning methods that work for you.
Google around and you'll find plenty of info.
given that info(and as far as I remember Jaguar, you work with people with mental disorders (is it Psychologist or Psychiatrist???), I think I might have that. (else, i'm Hypochondriac);)
But what I'm surely certain is that I have something in my mind that might be compared to a tick, exept is not a tick (Signs)
I have a 136 IQ, I like to compare items or ideas with something that might not be related at all. like I might compare a group of irish people dancing riverdance to a formation of penguins above an elephant that is playing the bagpipe. (My apologies to you, Irishmen/women, I really admire your culture)
I have a messy room but I like orderliness. I like to listen to Christian Rock by Chris Tomlin, Charlie Hall, Matt Redman, David Crowder, and many others.
Classical by Mozart, Bethoveen, Vivaldi Bach, Verdi, Biset, Handel(Hallelujah), Tchaikovski, and others.
Rock by Queen, Metalica.
Modern music by Eros Ramazzotti, Laura Pausinni, Andrea Bocccelli, and Yanni
Oldies (mostly in spanish) by Roberto Carlos, Raphael...
Jag, What do I have? (if you require more info for your prognosis, Tell me.) Oh, and answer me in a PM, OK?
I have a 136 IQ, I like to compare items or ideas with something that might not be related at all. like I might compare a group of irish people dancing riverdance to a formation of penguins above an elephant that is playing the bagpipe.
*in tears from laughter*
You're thinking of wolf, I work with some fairly crazy people but I'm no psych.
For the record though you sound fairly normal to me.
Same diff....(Is it?)
Can anyone tell me Who in here works with People?
Anywhere between a social worker, to an M.D., to a Psych(iatrist)(ologist).
This is getting kind of like Married to the Kelleys with me as Louis and the rest of you all are the family. (Choose if you want to)
Originally posted by wolf
I commit people.
you commit people...(blank) What?
Here's the list to fill in the blank
[list]
[*]suicide
[*]to church
[*]to sing
[*]to sign in
[*]to check out
[*]to check up
[/list]
to the psychiatric ward.
Just sign here and then you can meet your new roommates.
Originally posted by Torrere
Just sign here and then you can meet your new roommates.
yeah!!!! where is everybody?
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
yeah!!!! where is everybody?
You brought them with you.
Are you saying that I made everyone in this place insane?
Exapmle:
Note: If you are capable of understanding this message, you are insane.
Is that what are you all trying to say? if not, then what is it?
Originally posted by Tomas Rueda
Are you saying that I made everyone in this place insane?
That is correct. You're the only sane one here.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Originally posted by sycamore
That is correct. You're the only sane one here.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
(impressed stare) OOOOO....K!
but I don't remember if either wolf or Jaguar implied to me that I was the one insane. And as far as I'm concerned, they work with people with mental problems, Psych(iatrists)(ologists), I'm not shure.
(very high pictched voice) AAAU, SPICY!!!
Wolf works in the mental health field. Jag is just a snot-nosed college student with nothing better to do than wax philosophy. :)
Me? I'm craaaaazytasty!!!
drinking the high test coffee this morning, i see?
Though I've been off the no caffeine wagon recently, I've had no coffee this morning. Just natural sycamore craziness.
But a cup of joe does sound good. Thank you, Jim. I'll go make some now.
Decaf strong rocks with a twist for the guy next to me. it's on me, don't worry.
Nah...make that a quadruple espresso...I need to wake up.
lemonade rocks with a twist for me please, then.
Make it straight lemonade, you've been twisted enough, lately. :haha:
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
Make it straight lemonade, you've been twisted enough, lately. :haha:
twisted like a rope, a braid, a french baguette, etc. or twisted like sprinkkled with lemon? which one do you mean.
does that mean I should shut up?
Originally posted by lumberjim
drinking the high test coffee this morning, i see?
Check this out if you need coffeeas to your question of insanity.. heh.. the one thing i've found on the internet is more people who think along the same lines as i do than anything else.. no, we may completely disagree on some base concepts.. the way they think though.. the actual mechanics of it.. just something i've been noticing the past few years... i'm working on writing something on it... but well my overthinking is getting in the way (footnotes.. pages and pages of goddamn subtext!).. anyway! and i hate this cliche` I hated it when I was younger, but finally.... it makes sense.. you'll understand when you're older.. it's not a IQ thing.. it's a life thing..
you seem pretty bright, the only bit of advice I could give you is 'don't sweat it' god's not out to get you personally and eventually (barring something horrible) everything works out... heh.. has been for me anyway
your blue collar buddy
(actually I think i got what you meant by that, seems to have been lost in the mudslinging however)
YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wait for 4 maybe 5 months and I still havent found out if Im' crazy or just insane.
P.S. It is not my fault to raise this thread from the
it is the people who have something in their head (1st stanza, dont' make me finish the poem)
YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Y'know, I wonder if that might be because everyone else lost interest in this thread, hmm?
Like someone else said, they can both be great sensual experiences. Lately neither has been so hot at my house. Night before last we had leftovers, last night takeout pizza, tonight sloppy Joes. I won't even get into the other side of it.
I know I'm jumping in the middle here but why does tomas think he is insane/crazy? I could tell him whether or not he is! :biggrin:
Like someone else said, they can both be great sensual experiences. Lately neither has been so hot at my house. Night before last we had leftovers, last night takeout pizza, tonight sloppy Joes. I won't even get into the other side of it.
See, now that's your problem. Get into it, definitely get into it. :biggrin:
That sounds like a good idea.
In theory.
Just so you know, Bruce, I tried to take your advice tonight.
Fuck it. I'm not making dinner tomorrow either.
:bawling: Sorry to hear that. :(
(2 inches away from the face) is that so? :eyebrow: