Intelligent Design. Science or an evolution in marketing for creationism?

I attended a seminar about the new "wedge" plan of Intelligent Design proponents yesterday and it made me wonder about the cellarites.

What do you guys think?

Intelligent Design is not science. It is philosophy, and not particularly interesting philosophy at that. Saying that evolution is guided by an undetected external intelligence adds nothing to science except distraction.

It is a backdoor scam for the Religious Right.

What I want to know is, what if we discover we were seeded by aliens? Does that make *them* God in the eyes of the Creationists, or do they just add them to the created mix?

Crock of shit and sham science as a backdoor for christian fundies to sound vaguely legitimate.

Originally posted by Elspode
What I want to know is, what if we discover we were seeded by aliens? Does that make *them* God in the eyes of the Creationists, or do they just add them to the created mix?

Actually, this is another problem with ID: It is an idea presented for inclusion in school curriculums that the proponents don't even believe! It was created as a way for creationists to take advantage of what they see as a weakness in their limited understanding of science. They think that because science can't prove that there was no ID, the scientific community must therefore accept it as just as valid as accepted science.

They don't understand (deliberately in many cases) that the reason that ID isn't science is that there is no conceivable way to disprove (or prove, without cooperation from the IDer) it. Thus, it is philosophy. Or, more accurately, an idea which could be fodder for philosophical discussion.

Yup, its just one more variant of "God created the fossils." If anybody is interested in reading a very elegant and well articulated discussion of evolutionary biology, I suggest "The Blind Watch Maker," by Richard Dwarkins.

I believe that's "Dawkins". It's on my "to read" shelf.

I have no problem with people who believe in Creationism until they start trying to force their beliefs upon others. Especially when they try to twist science into supporting their viewpoint.

Anyone who declares ideas to be facts based solely on science's inability to disprove them is engaging in nothing more than philosophical masturbation.

Originally posted by Happy Monkey
I believe that's "Dawkins". It's on my "to read" shelf.

yeah, sorry about the typo:blush: