God save the Queen
I'm french and i have read somewhere that the French are jalous of the English because they have a queen
i would like to restore the truth and say it 's not true !!
we know the English are proud of their queen but we don't have queen or king (the last has been beheaded in 1793 :p) and we are happy like that
For the French, it's impossible to imagine to have a queen or a king: we have a complex history which explains that situation that we are "anti-queen" or "anti-king":D
Considering last I checked, massive support for the secular republic, I find this a little far fetched. Any sources?
Err, your last king was not Louis XVI, beheaded in 1793. There was Louis XVII, Charles X, and Louis-Philippe.
You should be jealous that they managed to turn the outdated government into a remarkable tourist attraction... without even spilling a lot of blood. Say what you will about the British, they are always polite about things.
Perhaps on their island. Not so much anywhere else.
Say what you will about the British, they are always polite about things.
Are you familiar with the sport of soccer?
Originally posted by russotto
Err, your last king was not Louis XVI, beheaded in 1793. There was Louis XVII, Charles X, and Louis-Philippe.
of course but they were powerless than Louis XVI and they didn't stay on the throne a long time
Louis-Philippe was the last, after, there was 2 emperors (Napoleon I and LNB of course) and others things i have forgotten, it's very complex
but, how do you know that ?? you learn that at school ??
@Jaguar: the source is the sun, i'm not sure (it was said that the Parisians were sort of groopies and wanted to see the queen because they envie the British, they were just curious and most of them saw her hat ;) )
@Undertoad: the monarchy is very expensive for the British
English polite ??! hypocritical sometimes (i'm maybe wrong but it's my opinion)
Are you familiar with the sport of soccer?
Hey Jag What's impolite about soccer?
Ummm, why are you asking Americans about this, anyhow? Last time I checked we didn't have a royal family here, although our politicians can be royal pains in the behind. Is the queen still alive? She's got those cute little corgi's. This being the land of opportunity, I went out and got a corgi of my very own. I now treat him like a king.
Originally posted by Kikoo
we don't have queen or king (the last has been beheaded in 1793 :p) and we are happy like that
Well, hell...no wonder it is so hard to hire a new one! Your termination procedures are waayyyyy too strict!
Dozens of popular polls taken over many years serve to re-enforce what you will hear in bars and pubs across the UK, which is that the monarchy is a parasite pimple on the face of our country. It are neither respected or (heaven forfend) loved and the only reason their continued existence is supported is that they continue to pull in the dollar/yen/shekel/euro. They aren't even English for heaven's sake. And soccer really is for kiddies, while Rugger is for real blokes who play without silly tin hats and body armour and face paint. .......oh god the thighs of Johhny Wilkinson.......:biggrin:
Originally posted by Kikoo
of course but they were powerless than Louis XVI and they didn't stay on the throne a long time
Charles X wasn't powerless, but he was indeed deposed quickly.
Louis-Philippe was the last, after, there was 2 emperors (Napoleon I and LNB of course) and others things i have forgotten, it's very complex
Napoleon I came after Louis XVI but before Louis XVIII.
but, how do you know that ?? you learn that at school ??
From dim memories of school I knew the monarchy was restored after Napolean was defeated. The rest I read in various places in the past but had to look up (isn't google great?) for the details.
What do you mean the French don't have a queen? Haven't you heard of Jean-Paul Gaultier?
Russoto
Napoleon I came after Louis XVI but before Louis XVIII.
yes, but Napoléon wasn't a king
Charles X wasn't powerless, but he was indeed deposed quickly.
yes, i wanted to say they had less power than the former kings (before Louis XVI) (i have made a mistake)
Radar
What do you mean the French don't have a queen? Haven't you heard of Jean-Paul Gaultier?
you are jalous about french fashion :p
Elspode
Well, hell...no wonder it is so hard to hire a new one! Your termination procedures are waayyyyy too strict!
??? don't understand
my sentence is not correct ??
you are jalous about french fashion
No, just trying to make a joke. I didn't know the French equivalent of Richard Simmons so I did a google search for French gay guys and there you have it. :)
God Save The Queen
She Ain't No 'uman Being.
The Sex Pistols loved the queen. :)
Well, hell...no wonder it is so hard to hire a new one! Your termination procedures are waayyyyy too strict!
??? don't understand
my sentence is not correct ??
Elspode was making a joke, as if you "fired" your king from his job, but instead of giving him 2 months' salary (or I hear in France it's like 8 months salary if you get laid off, isn't it?) and sending him on his way, you chop his head off. No one else would ever want to apply for the "job" of king for fear of getting fired.
Originally posted by Kikoo
??? don't understand
my sentence is not correct ??
Episode was just making a joke about the way the French monarchs met their end in the French revolution. You know, the guillotine and all. Don't worry about your English. Its a 1000 times better than my French.
But didn't Napoleon set himself up as an Emperor? Surely, that counts as royalty in a way, anyhow.
As for Radar, he's jealous of everything.
Oy! I want someone to write a rousing song titled, "The Thighs of Johnny Wilkinson", then we sing it in a pub.
thanks to help me to understand the Elspode's joke :D
i'm not enough good in english to understand that type of joke
Napoléon was le premier consul (the first) and he made a referendum to stay on the throne all his life, the French answered "yes" and he became emperor
we are very complex because we fired all our kings to replace them by an emperor :confused:
Forget me but who is Johnny Wilkinson ?
Kikoo, Jonny (or Johnny) Wilkinson scored the points England needed after a 100 minute game of Rugby Union had moved into extra time, for the World Cup, and thanks to him brought home the silver by beating the Aussies 20-17. His was the magical drop kick of perfection that he had been practicing since childhood, and it won the World Cup for his team and country. He is also divinely handsome and drop dead sexy!
I haven't learned how to insert links yet but if you do a Google search for him you can see the thighs - and more - that have left Englishwomen (and not a few men) sighing...... Our rugger buggers play in neat little shorts. Oh by the way, rugger has nothing to do with soccer.
Never mind the losers we currently have in Buckingham Palace, I think Jonny deserves the throne and I will probably be clapped in the Tower for this! Long live Jonny, England and St George!!
Originally posted by marichiko
But didn't Napoleon set himself up as an Emperor? Surely, that counts as royalty in a way, anyhow.
Definitely. The little fella even snatched the crown from the Pope and crowned himself. Lots of symbolism there.
Originally posted by CzinZumerzet
Oh by the way, rugger has nothing to do with soccer.
How does the old saying go? Soccer is a gentlemans game played by thugs while rugby is a thugs game played by gentleman.
[COLOR=indigo]Oh yeah, sure alot of Brits feel the royal family is a "pimple"?.... that's why nobody went to Diana's funeral. Or to royal's weddings. Yeah.
And football (soccer) blows...mhm...that's why there are no fans.
Please don't try to offer *your* opinion as what "most" of a culture thinks. [/COLOR]
Historically there is a good natured tradition of competitive ribaldry and poking fun between supporters of football and Rugby. Some people follow/support both. I don't know the exact meaning of 'football blows' neither have I suggested it has no fans, it has very many, as has rugger. The origins and history of both games are as different as present day play,and dedicated football supporters tend to be quite different to rugger fans.
Over the course of very many years there have been scores of live debates, phone-ins, polls and quanititative research programmes, academic enquiry and surveys by numerous organisations including the UK/Australian/Canadian/New Zealand governments regarding the future of the monarchy. Undoubtedly it has its supporters and some people support the monarchy, but not its present incumbents or those in waiting. Not just my opinion, widespread international public opinion. Those who attend royal events do so for numerous and varied reasons of their own but to suggest that they are there only to demonstrate their support for the monarchy is probably an oversimplification. Very many have come from countries where monarchy is non-existant, others attend out of a sense of being a part of history, some because it is a great excuse for a celebration and there's no harm in that. If anything I've said is causing offence I apologise unreservedly. Seriously.
Originally posted by CzinZumerzet
If anything I've said is causing offence I apologise unreservedly. Seriously.
Don't worry, Czin. You didn't post anything that was offensive. Not in my book, anyhow. Some of the boys around here can get a bit touchy, that's all. You just have to stand your ground and keep them in their place. ;)
Originally posted by marichiko
Ummm, why are you asking Americans about this, anyhow? Last time I checked we didn't have a royal family here, although our politicians can be royal pains in the behind. Is the queen still alive? She's got those cute little corgi's. This being the land of opportunity, I went out and got a corgi of my very own. I now treat him like a king.
We have royalty simulations like the Kennedy family
Originally posted by CzinZumerzet
Very many have come from countries where monarchy is non-existant, others attend out of a sense of being a part of history, some because it is a great excuse for a celebration and there's no harm in that. If anything I've said is causing offence I apologise unreservedly. Seriously.
Considering that this is the Cellar, you've not said anything with real offensive impact Suz...
Originally posted by Kikoo
??? don't understand
my sentence is not correct ??
You are perfectly understandable.. perspective has been what everyone in this thread is losing sight of.....
Comparer des cultures est come comparer des pomes aux oranges
(please excuse my french ):)
For Czin & warch, let the singing begin.;)
In terms of tourism and international appeal, there has always been a delicate balance of power between Britain and France. Britain has been able to lure in tourists to see the pageantry and majesty of one of 'old Europes' oldest remaining monarchies.
The French have been able to offer decent, and sometimes exceptional food. Cuisine is, after all a French word, and the term 'English cuisine' is one of the great oxymorons of all time.
Until this man came along:
Jamie Oliver, an English chef, has upset this delicate balance of power by becoming something of a sensation. He is apparently very popular with the French.
It would make perfect sense that the French would feel the need to establish a monarchy to restore the balance.
I understand the naked chef did some chef-ting naked at home for his anniversary. Unfortunately he burned his chances of reenacting the wedding night.
Deepest thanks for the pic of Jonny-the-hero, sends me,really sends me!
I didn't realise all of the sausage jokes going the rounds about Jamie were true but the poor boy scorched his todger on the barbeque! This is one wedding anniversary night burned into his memory, pauvre J'aime...;)
Originally posted by Scopulus Argentarius
Comparer des cultures est come comparer des pomes aux oranges
(please excuse my french ):)
Oh, it's very nice, someone who try to make an effort to speak french, thanks
(it's very good, but the correct sentence is: comparer des cultures, (c') est comme comparer des pommes avec des oranges :D ;) )
richlevy
In terms of tourism and international appeal, there has always been a delicate balance of power between Britain and France. Britain has been able to lure in tourists to see the pageantry and majesty of one of 'old Europes' oldest remaining monarchies.
The French have been able to offer decent, and sometimes exceptional food. Cuisine is, after all a French word, and the term 'English cuisine' is one of the great oxymorons of all time.
delicate balance ??
France is the first tourist country in the world !! :cool:
Food, fashion, wonderful landscapes are explainations
Vive la France, un pays merveilleux avec des gens très compliqués
France is the first tourist country in the world !!
It seems to be a popular choice with Germans.
I don;t like that naked chef guy. He's a poser.
I'm entirely amused that he burned Mr. Winky on the grill. Successful naked barbecuing is really not all that difficult.
I don't think much of him either.
Originally posted by wolf
I'm entirely amused that he burned Mr. Winky on the grill. Successful naked barbecuing is really not all that difficult.
Obviously, you don't have tits! ;)
Originally posted by lumberjim
I don;t like that naked chef guy. He's a poser.
me ??!
no. the naked chef. (that picture up there^) I don;t know you yet. I'll let you know if i don;t like you. You won;t have to ask....you'll know.
Originally posted by marichiko
Obviously, you don't have tits! ;)
Obviously you don't do enough naked barbecuing.
obviously, wolf missed the fact that marichiko said she didn;t have tits. You DO have tits, don't you wolf?
(*checks*)
Yes, standard number and configuration. Original equipment.
And oh, nor am I so old that having them droop into the grill rack is an issue.
Originally posted by wolf
(*checks*)
shouldn't that have been:
"(*)(*) checks"
Originally posted by lumberjim
I'll let you know if i don;t like you. You won;t have to ask....you'll know.
Who needs comedy central?! ;-)
Oh yeah and Bruce's comment about German tourists!
Originally posted by wolf
(*checks*)
Yes, standard number and configuration. Original equipment.
So how 'bout some, you know...naked pics?
Originally posted by lumberjim
obviously, wolf missed the fact that marichiko said she didn;t have tits. You DO have tits, don't you wolf?
I never said that I didn't have tits. I assumed that Wolf was male and didn't have tits to get in the way. If I was wrong about Wolf's gender, my deepest apologies. I've never barbecued "au natural" but I have cooked over camp fires in that mode and there have been instances where the femine figure can get in the way (so to speak), especially if one is well-endowed. ;)
Well, now that's straightened out, I'd like to point out that the Naked Chef did it in the kitchen, on the stove.
I really can't picture the Queen of England doing that, although Tracy Ullman could convince me. :)
edit
Mrs Doubtfire did it.
i must admit i understand nothing anymore
Germans ? Wolf ? Tracy Ullman ? Mme Doubtfire ? Barbecue ?? :confused:
[COLOR=indigo]You know, all of Marichiko's assumptions are starting to really irritate me. How long did you lurk before you jumped in and started posting? 2 seconds? You have been throwing assumptions around since you started. If you have some free time, why don't you take a few hours a day and just read posts here? In most cases, it becomes obvious what gender people are, and gives us a glimpse of their (cyber)personality.
Stop assuming shit about people. Really.
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Originally posted by Kikoo
i must admit i understand nothing anymore
Germans ? Wolf ? Tracy Ullman ? Mme Doubtfire ? Barbecue ?? :confused:
Kikoo, you have to understand that most threads don't stay on the original topic. They tend to wander all over the place.:)
So what's up with Becks and Posh?
Originally posted by OnyxCougar
[COLOR=indigo] why don't you take a few hours a day and just read posts here? In most cases, it becomes obvious what gender people are, and gives us a glimpse of their (cyber)personality.
Stop assuming shit about people. Really.
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In my case it usually isn't all that obvious. Actually I find the aha experience associated with people finding out that I'm female rather amusing.
Originally posted by OnyxCougar
[COLOR=indigo]You know, all of Marichiko's assumptions are starting to really irritate me. How long did you lurk before you jumped in and started posting? 2 seconds? You have been throwing assumptions around since you started. If you have some free time, why don't you take a few hours a day and just read posts here? In most cases, it becomes obvious what gender people are, and gives us a glimpse of their (cyber)personality.
Stop assuming shit about people. Really.
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Hmmm... Yeah, I'd say 2 seconds is about right. I've noticed that people on this board are pretty free with their opinions (you're not exactly timid about yours), so I've jumped right in and given mine. You can always ignore my posts if they irritate you, I'll get over it somehow. And lots of people here have made assumptions about me, including getting my gender wrong. I apologized to Wolf and as she noted, neither her name or the content of her posts up until now gave any indication that she's of the girl-type persuasion.
Originally posted by wolf
In my case it usually isn't all that obvious. Actually I find the aha experience associated with people finding out that I'm female rather amusing.
[COLOR=indigo]Wolf, I knew from the first few days lurking that you were female. From your posts with slang, from your picture (that was a big tipoff), from your general demeanor, from other people referencing you as a she.... you know, little things like that. Things anyone can pick up on if they only take the time. I just get pissy when people aren't thorough. Well, not even thorough, I mean, if they don't wanna read the history, cool, but don't go making assumptions. :) **shrug** It's a little thing, I know, but people have been making alot of assumptions lately, not just here, but everywhere around me and it is really getting to me.[/COLOR]
Originally posted by marichiko
Hmmm... Yeah, I'd say 2 seconds is about right. I've noticed that people on this board are pretty free with their opinions (you're not exactly timid about yours), so I've jumped right in and given mine. You can always ignore my posts if they irritate you, I'll get over it somehow. And lots of people here have made assumptions about me, including getting my gender wrong. I apologized to Wolf and as she noted, neither her name or the content of her posts up until now gave any indication that she's of the girl-type persuasion.
[COLOR=indigo]But that's just my point. There are ALL KINDS of indicators that she is a woman, if you just READ. Honest to God, I don't have a problem with you personally, and I REALLY don't mean to be bitchy about this, but for shit's sake! PLEASE! Pretty please. ok? TRY not to assume things? Please?[/COLOR]
yeah, something's getting to you lately. you've been a tad ....uhm.........fierce... lately. what's going on? you ok? the IRS got you down? Are you hearing those voices in your head again?
-a concerned citizen
Originally posted by lumberjim
yeah, something's getting to you lately. you've been a tad ....uhm.........fierce... lately. what's going on? you ok? the IRS got you down? Are you hearing those voices in your head again?
-a concerned citizen
[COLOR=indigo]LOL fierce.... I like that adjective. Yeah, I'll try to get to my journal today at work. You'd think after a week's vacation I'd be less fierce...but it's only served to make me moreso. *shrug* Not even sex is helping. Hmmm..[/COLOR]
Are you taking your B vitamins? I've heard that a deficiency there can cause undue aggression in SOME women. You might also try some nice marijuana to relax you. Or try physical excertion....i know, it sounds like an extreme measure, but a brisk walk everynight can clear your head nicely. you may also try "roughing it" as defined by dave a while ago.....if you remember how he defined it.....:D
[COLOR=indigo]I have tried to forget most of Dave's advise.
And my husband makes me take vitamins. Well, A vitamin. And since he knows I have problems taking pills, he bought me the chewable kind. Isn't he thoughtful.[/COLOR]
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
Kikoo, you have to understand that most threads don't stay on the original topic. They tend to wander all over the place.:)
ok, i understand
Originally posted by Kikoo
i must admit i understand nothing anymore
Germans ? Wolf ? Tracy Ullman ? Mme Doubtfire ? Barbecue ?? :confused:
They all love David Hasselhoff, except Barbecue. David Hasselhoff loves that.
Originally posted by OnyxCougar
[COLOR=indigo]But that's just my point. There are ALL KINDS of indicators that she is a woman, if you just READ. Honest to God, I don't have a problem with you personally, and I REALLY don't mean to be bitchy about this, but for shit's sake! PLEASE! Pretty please. ok? TRY not to assume things? Please?[/COLOR]
Look, I don't want to go on endlessly about this. I don't have anything against you either. If I offended you, I apologize. I really only know Wolf from this thread and the occasional comment thrown in recently on a few others. You can't expect people new to the board to go back and read all the old threads from day one. It wouldn't do ME any good, anyhow. If you'd read all MY posts, you'd know that I suffer from a mild neurological condition which impacts my short term memory, among other things. Its all I can do to keep the posts in a most recent thread clear. Sometimes I don't. I do the best I can.
Now you see all the trouble the french cause.:D
"Oh yeah, sure alot of Brits feel the royal family is a "pimple"?.... that's why nobody went to Diana's funeral. Or to royal's weddings. Yeah.
Umm.....Well first off whilst many thousands of people went to Diana's funeral I might point out the millions who didnt.....
And....well same goes for the royal weddings. Really please dont look at the screaming fans and flag wavers and think we're all ardent royalists. Do you think we all worship the Beatles as well?
Seriously....mass hysteria and people competing with eachother to be more moved and outraged than the next person is not the mainstream.
I actually dont know anybody in Britain who does want the monarchy ......we didnt ask for them.....I seem to recall we did that whole revolution and execution of the king thing ourselves at one point.
All this talk of how different French and British are....Yah . We're very different but we're also very similar. The English have been ruled by the French. Our culture is a homogenisation of German, Scandanavian, Gallic and British( original sense of British rather than modern) The Norman French ruled in Britain for nearly three centuries. Even an Anglo saxon enthusiast such as me can see that has partially formed who we are.
We're also very different....I would like to think the biggest thing that seperates us is our language. ....Though actually huge swathes of that came from French.....
Britain's culture is a hybrid culture refined into its own branch of Europeanness (:P) When the French and English poke fun at each other I always see it as sibling rivalry. Likewise the Germans. I think we all rather hope it remains as friendly .....this time of peace between us was hard won
Originally posted by DanaC
Do you think we all worship the Beatles as well?
Umm. Doesn't everybody? :confused:
I blame the Sun personally. If it wasn't for the grotty tabliod media it'd be Diana who?
I don't think most brits give two fucks about the royal family, but by your arguement all the screaming fans at a Britney concert mean we're all britney spears lovers (thought that'd scare everyone)
The Royal family is England’s acquiescence to Scottish superiority. [SIZE=1]Duck and ruuun.[/SIZE] :haha:
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
The Royal family is England’s acquiescence to Scottish superiority. [SIZE=1]Duck and ruuun.[/SIZE] :haha:
The Royal Family is proof of everyone else's superiority (Can I share your bomb shelter, Bruce?)