Are you a Neocon? Take the quiz.

Archer • Mar 1, 2004 1:47 pm
Neocon Quiz

Pretty interesting quiz. The answers (as with any quiz), don't always fit exactly what one would really answer, but hey, it's still pretty good.

And I turned out as a Realist.
SteveDallas • Mar 1, 2004 1:51 pm
I love the tag at the end: "Results are not scientific." Thanks for clarifying that for us!

Anyway, I took the quiz and it said I was a "fucking wingnut."
Griff • Mar 1, 2004 2:04 pm
"Isolationist" Is that another word for wingnut?
kerosene • Mar 1, 2004 2:06 pm
Liberal

Liberals…

Are wary of American arrogance and hypocrisy
Trace much of today's anti-American hatred to previous US foreign policies.
Believe political solutions are inherently superior to military solutions
Believe the US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises
Oppose American imperialism
Support international law, alliances, and agreements
Encourage US participation in the UN
Believe US economic policies must help lift up the world's poor
Historical liberal: President Woodrow Wilson

Modern liberal: President Jimmy Carter
russotto • Mar 1, 2004 2:06 pm
I came out as a "Realist". Which as we know is a pessimist who has been proved right too often.
Radar • Mar 1, 2004 4:24 pm
It claims I'm an isolationist which I've been accused of before but that's bullshit.

Isolationists don't want to trade or deal with any foreign countries. I am all for maintaining trade, making peace treaties that don't include promising to use our military to defend any nation but our own, etc.

The simple truth is the US Military is not here to defend any nation but America and even then only when we are attacked. The fastest way to start a world war is through entangling alliances and complicated treaties. WWI showed us that these sort of treaties cause a dispute between a couple of nations to pull dozens of other nations into it and cause millions upon millions to die.

Being a military non-interventionist and an anti-imperialists doesn't make you an isolationist.
Troubleshooter • Mar 1, 2004 4:43 pm
It said I was a liberal.

Maybe in a classical (Founding Father) sort of way.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 1, 2004 4:48 pm
Liberal. It's wrong.
Radar • Mar 1, 2004 4:49 pm
I got liberal as my 2nd one and I agree with you. I"m not a liberal in any sense of the word other than a classic liberal (Libertarian). I'm also not a conservative.
Griff • Mar 1, 2004 7:57 pm
Originally posted by Radar

Being a military non-interventionist and an anti-imperialists doesn't make you an isolationist.


Truth.
wolf • Mar 1, 2004 9:28 pm
Says I'm a neoconservative.
OnyxCougar • Mar 1, 2004 9:54 pm
Isolationist

The term isolationist is most often used negatively; few people who share its beliefs use it to describe their own foreign policy perspective. They believe in "America first." For them, national sovereignty trumps international relations. Many unions, libertarians, and anti-globalization protesters share isolationist tenets.

Isolationists…

Are wary of US involvement in the United Nations
Oppose international law, alliances, and agreements
Believe the US should not act as a global cop
Support trade practices that protect American workers
Oppose liberal immigration
Oppose American imperialism
Desire to preserve what they see as America's national identity and character

Historical isolationist: President Calvin Coolidge
Modern isolationist: Author/Commentator Pat Buchanan

[color=indigo]I've always known I was an isolationist.[/color]
richlevy • Mar 4, 2004 10:54 pm
Liberal.

Actually, I consider my self moderate-liberal. Which, considering how far right the administration is swinging, probably counts as liberal.
Happy Monkey • Mar 5, 2004 8:57 am
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
Liberal. It's wrong.
Don't be too sure.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 5, 2004 6:36 pm
I'm sure.:p
elSicomoro • Mar 6, 2004 2:14 pm
Based on your answers, you are most likely a liberal.

No! Stop lying! Ya think?!
slang • Mar 7, 2004 4:33 am
What exactly is an Agrarian Nationalist?
elSicomoro • Mar 7, 2004 9:26 am
You.
slang • Mar 7, 2004 3:12 pm
yah, but how'd they know that just from the test? "They" are probably monitoring my internet messages.
elSicomoro • Mar 7, 2004 3:46 pm
They already know everything about you...why do you think you've went through the job spell that you have?
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 7, 2004 11:57 pm
Shhh, don't talk about his employment, or he might get pissed and leave.;)
elSicomoro • Mar 7, 2004 11:58 pm
Or shoot me...hell, that's fine. All you'll be doing is helping Rho pay off my debts and give me a nice sendoff.
slang • Mar 8, 2004 1:33 am
Originally posted by sycamore
Or shoot me...


I cant shoot people through the internet goofy. That slick trick is reserved for the Ashcroft people. You didnt know that?
elSicomoro • Mar 8, 2004 7:01 pm
Shit, how do I know that you're really in Bedford County? You could live right next door to me for all I know...
warch • Mar 11, 2004 4:52 pm
Liberal. surprise!
godwulf • Mar 15, 2004 12:46 am
"Liberal".

There's a surprise. Of course all of the questions dealt with U.S. foreign policy, ey?

If they'd been about social issues, I'd have probably gotten a much more 'worthy' label...like maybe "Moderate Libertarian Mouthbreather".

Salus populi suprema lex esto

"Most big salads are eaten by Lex".

Translating is my hobby.
phillybilly • Mar 15, 2004 11:52 am
Yeah, I cam out Ralist, bitter is more like it, we love our country, but we also see how the Government dumps on us....Were don't see things through red, white & blue tinted glasses, but you better stay out of our backyard or else too......
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 15, 2004 7:54 pm
Welcome to the Cellar PB, I see you've already met the real world.;)
tmcl • Mar 20, 2004 8:15 am
No, I'm not! I came out isolationist. The discription probably fits me the best of all the discriptions there, but bear in mind that I'm Australian not American.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 20, 2004 8:29 am
Welcome to the Cellar, tmcl.:)
What are you vehemently denying? Isolationist or something else?
We like Aussies here, they are some of the best members.
tmcl • Mar 20, 2004 7:28 pm
Thanks for the welcome :)

I'm denying being a neo-con, which is, after all, what the thread is named.
classicman • Sep 1, 2008 11:09 am
Bump

I'd like to find this quiz - anyone know what happened to it? The link didn't work.
wolf • Sep 1, 2008 1:20 pm
You're probably better off with the Political Compass.
DanaC • Sep 2, 2008 3:52 pm
I think it's pretty safe to say I'm not.
lookout123 • Sep 2, 2008 3:53 pm
yes you are and you hate america. anyone who disagrees with what i know is obviously mentally retarded.

[SIZE="1"]damn, i've got to quit reading radar's posts. i think it's contagious.[/SIZE]
Griff • Sep 2, 2008 4:20 pm
DanaC;480232 wrote:
I think it's pretty safe to say I'm not.


Actually not that safe. The guys who founded the movement were disenchanted lefties.
DanaC • Sep 2, 2008 4:30 pm
Fair point. But, do I sound like I am moving to the right?
lookout123 • Sep 2, 2008 4:30 pm
i'll getcha movin' to the right, ya manc tart.
Griff • Sep 2, 2008 4:52 pm
DanaC;480239 wrote:
Fair point. But, do I sound like I am moving to the right?


:)
DanaC • Sep 2, 2008 4:52 pm
i'll getcha movin' to the right, ya manc tart.



We still talkin' politics right?
Griff • Sep 2, 2008 4:55 pm
*eases out of room*
Sorry to interupt kids, don't do anything I wouldn't do...
lookout123 • Sep 2, 2008 4:55 pm
if that's what it takes.;)
regular.joe • Sep 2, 2008 6:53 pm
Just like my friends, it says I'm a liberal.
classicman • Sep 2, 2008 10:41 pm
wolf;479920 wrote:
You're probably better off with the Political Compass.


I'll try that one again - I'm just so friggin fed up with these two "candidates" already.
ZenGum • Sep 2, 2008 11:09 pm
I stopped taking these quizes. The last one told me I was a lesbian.
I mean, sure, I think about sex with women, but still...
SamIam • Sep 3, 2008 12:58 am
classicman;479894 wrote:
Bump

I'd like to find this quiz - anyone know what happened to it? The link didn't work.


Yeah, it didn't work for me either. I guess I'll just have to go on being a liberal with right wing tendencies.
classicman • Sep 3, 2008 8:32 am
Its rather strange - most people have the opinion that I am much farther right than I really am.
tw • Sep 3, 2008 10:04 am
classicman;480391 wrote:
Its rather strange - most people have the opinion that I am much farther right than I really am.
Then why do you find UG posts so acceptable?
classicman • Sep 3, 2008 1:53 pm
At what point did I say they were or weren't? Are you making assumptions again?
lookout123 • Sep 3, 2008 1:54 pm
you know what they say about assumptions - "tw is an ass".
DanaC • Sep 3, 2008 3:52 pm
*laughs* ok, I don't normally like the little snipes, but that was fucking funny.
tw • Sep 3, 2008 4:26 pm
classicman;480522 wrote:
At what point did I say they were or weren't? Are you making assumptions again?
How many times must I post something before you grasp it. Oh. Neocon. Sorry, now I understand.
DanaC • Sep 3, 2008 4:34 pm
What? I am bemused. Classicman is not a neo-con. Wtf are you talking about tw?
lookout123 • Sep 3, 2008 4:35 pm
I'm too lazy to quote myself, but I stand by my earlier statement.
Flint • Sep 3, 2008 4:37 pm
lookout123;480622 wrote:
I'm too lazy to quote myself, but I stand by my earlier statement.
Yeah, I said some shit somewhere that blew your shit out of the water, bro, but whatever.
lookout123 • Sep 3, 2008 4:41 pm
then quote it. you can't. it was just a pile of slanderous lies - that's why the mods deleted it. you're lucky they didn't ban you beeeyotch!
tw • Sep 3, 2008 4:43 pm
lookout123;480624 wrote:
then quote it.
You can't handle the truth.
lookout123 • Sep 3, 2008 4:43 pm
engage funny bone and try again.
tw • Sep 3, 2008 4:45 pm
lookout123;480628 wrote:
engage funny bone and try again.
I saw you smile. Don't deny it.
lookout123 • Sep 3, 2008 4:48 pm
I always smile at the handicapped. it's the neighborly thing to do.
kerosene • Sep 3, 2008 7:05 pm
I wish I could find the quiz. I would like to see how much my views have changed in the past 4.5 years. If there ever were a period of time in which they would have changed, that particular period would be it.

[SIZE="1"]Mostly, I am just hoping my husband doesn't happen into this thread. :blush: [/SIZE]
TheMercenary • Sep 3, 2008 10:51 pm
Neocon quiz results

Based on your answers, you are most likely a liberal.


:D:D:D
TheMercenary • Sep 3, 2008 10:51 pm
case;480661 wrote:
I wish I could find the quiz. I would like to see how much my views have changed in the past 4.5 years. If there ever were a period of time in which they would have changed, that particular period would be it.

[SIZE="1"]Mostly, I am just hoping my husband doesn't happen into this thread. :blush: [/SIZE]


It is on the bottom right hand corner of the page.
Sundae • Sep 4, 2008 7:07 am
I'm a Liberal.
Quel surprise!
Griff • Sep 4, 2008 7:54 am
Neocon quiz results

Based on your answers, you are most likely an isolationist.

No suprise for me, but Merc needs to do some serious soul searching. :D
TheMercenary • Sep 4, 2008 8:25 am
Griff;480801 wrote:
Neocon quiz results

Based on your answers, you are most likely an isolationist.

No suprise for me, but Merc needs to do some serious soul searching. :D
You're right. I was a bit surprised. But I don't really believe it either. I am far from a right-wing nut. Socially liberal, fiscal conservative, morally libertarian. :D
Griff • Sep 4, 2008 8:29 am
Maybe tw will start reading your posts more closely now.
kerosene • Sep 4, 2008 10:24 am
Hmm. Based on your answers, you are most likely a liberal.

I am actually kind of surprised by that.
BigV • Sep 4, 2008 11:09 am
Neocon quiz results
Based on your answers, you are most likely a liberal. Read below to learn more about each foreign policy perspective.
--snip

Liberal
Liberals…

* Are wary of American arrogance and hypocrisy
* Trace much of today's anti-American hatred to previous US foreign policies.
* Believe political solutions are inherently superior to military solutions
* Believe the US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises
* Oppose American imperialism
* Support international law, alliances, and agreements
* Encourage US participation in the UN
* Believe US economic policies must help lift up the world's poor

Historical liberal: President Woodrow Wilson
Modern liberal: President Jimmy Carter

--snip
According to the measurement of this test, I'm a liberal. Unsurprising. I did find considerable similarity in many of the suggested answers. I wonder what nuance shaded the grading between the categories. I feel an emphasis on the phrase "American Imperialism" pushed test takers into the liberal category.

Personally, I find the phrase an inflammatory exaggeration. Some of our actions could be seen that way, but I don't believe there's any such real desire on the part of our leaders. But I can see the such a case to be made by our enemies.
lookout123 • Sep 4, 2008 11:38 am
Neocon quiz results

Based on your answers, you are most likely a realist. Read below to learn more about each foreign policy perspective.





Realist

Realists…

Are guided more by practical considerations than ideological vision
Believe US power is crucial to successful diplomacy - and vice versa
Don't want US policy options unduly limited by world opinion or ethical considerations
Believe strong alliances are important to US interests
Weigh the political costs of foreign action
Believe foreign intervention must be dictated by compelling national interest
Historical realist: President Dwight D. Eisenhower

Modern realist: Secretary of State Colin Powell
ZenGum • Sep 5, 2008 2:20 am
Griff;480805 wrote:
Maybe tw will start reading your posts more closely now.


I wish I learned the orginal, but there is a German expression which literally translates as "yeah, and monkeys might fly out of my arse".
Just sprang to mind.
Ibby • Sep 5, 2008 5:24 am
Uh, zen?
that's not german.
that's wayne.
Sundae • Sep 5, 2008 5:51 am
I know there's an Afrikaans phrase which means "Stop following me!" but translates as, "Stop hanging out of my arsehole!"
TheMercenary • Sep 5, 2008 12:34 pm
Sundae Girl;481144 wrote:
I know there's an Afrikaans phrase which means "Stop following me!" but translates as, "Stop hanging out of my arsehole!"

:D I'd like to know what that is. I have a number of friends from SA who live here.
BigV • Sep 5, 2008 6:32 pm
TheMercenary;481262 wrote:
:D I'd like to know what that is. I have a number of friends from SA who live here.


check here.

I could not find the one you were seeking, but this was close:

Op iemand se hakke sit

on someone 's heels sit ... or ... to follow someone
Urbane Guerrilla • Sep 6, 2008 7:27 am
ZenGum;480324 wrote:
I stopped taking these quizzes. The last one told me I was a lesbian. . .


Or it mistook you for an inhabitant of a Greek island. Which would be either uncool or interesting.

WRT the other end of your post, maybe you can have my "Honorary Lesbian" button.:cool: