From Above

Kitsune • Jan 25, 2004 9:49 pm
What happens when you give me a tank of helium, a cheap digital camera, and some timing components? I do really stupid stuff.

After three days of work on some simple circuitry and design, I was able to get a digital camera in the air and taking pictures every sixteen seconds. Had the afternoon not been so breezy, we might have gotten it higher up. Still, it was a lot of fun!

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The Sub Orbital Camera Kit -- or "SOCK"

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SOCK finally takes flight after using an amazing thirteen balloons to achieve positive buoyancy. It beeps every time it takes a picture, making it a mysterious sputnik over campus.

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Higher!

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A second attach point on top and a third flight allowed us to grab some side-views. Sadly, most of them were blinded by the sun.

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The problem with cheap digitals -- bright light means dead spots.
Scopulus Argentarius • Jan 25, 2004 10:02 pm
An opto isolator,some form of timer (555 perhaps) with rc. Looks like you did a good job. Nice pics too
Kitsune • Jan 25, 2004 10:11 pm
Yep -- a 555 timer, which turned out to be a lot more difficult than I thought, and a solid state relay. Just soldered the leads onto the shutter switch. It was not as easy as I had envisioned (timing, duty cycle adjustment, etc), and getting the thing into the air proved to be quite a trick. I'll post ground photos of the event and some of the snags we encountered in a bit.
wolf • Jan 25, 2004 10:14 pm
So how do you make sure you get your camera back? Is it tethered or do you just have to chase it and hope?
Kitsune • Jan 25, 2004 10:27 pm
We had it attached to some 50lb test monofilament line. Had the line snapped, tangled in a tree, or the link come undone I would have lost it. A chase might have ensued, and someone even suggested we bring an emergency bb gun, but we opted to just hope everything went okay. The line held very well, even in the mild wind that had an magnified effect on the setup.

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Nothing But Net • Jan 26, 2004 12:05 am
That's not stupid. It's cool. Nice job.

Have you thought about trying it with a camcorder?
Kitsune • Jan 26, 2004 12:10 am
Camcorder? Dear god! For this tiny camera that runs on 2 AAAs batteries, I made a poor estimate of 5-7 balloons. It ended up being neutral at ten, rising at thirteen, and did well with fifteen.

While I'd love to do a camcorder and I know where to order weather balloons from, I can't afford the helium!
e unibus plurum • Jan 26, 2004 12:42 pm
what about lashing the weather balloons to an aluminum lawn chair and...

http://www.markbarry.com/lawnchairman.html
SteveDallas • Jan 26, 2004 1:15 pm
Truly, an American hero.
Kitsune • Jan 26, 2004 1:57 pm
The infamous American Science and Surplus might make future launches a lot more interesting!
wolf • Jan 26, 2004 2:03 pm
Originally posted by e unibus plurum
what about lashing the weather balloons to an aluminum lawn chair and...

http://www.markbarry.com/lawnchairman.html


I saw that on mythbusters back in November. Thought it was neat, but definitely scary to someone who can't mount a stepladder without getting a case of the cold sweats.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 26, 2004 2:27 pm
This is weird. I've seen someone do something similar on a website, long ago and far away. I swear the buildings in picture 4 were the same ones.:confused:
Griff • Jan 26, 2004 2:39 pm
One of those big rc zepellins might be just the thing... of course that's $
Kitsune • Jan 26, 2004 2:56 pm
This is weird. I've seen someone do something similar on a website, long ago and far away.

Perhaps you are thinking of this article on Cockeyed?

I did a little research on this before attempting and found the article on viewing over an acre. It was helpful -- I knew after reading his stuff that I could expect to use a lot of helium.

I have no idea what he was thinking by having the cord connected, though. That's where all the weight comes from.
blue58 • Jan 26, 2004 4:01 pm
Originally posted by wolf


I saw that on mythbusters back in November. Thought it was neat, but definitely scary to someone who can't mount a stepladder without getting a case of the cold sweats.


Oooooohhh, you too?! I built a barn that had a peak of 12', I finished it, even shingled it, but my wife had to help me down each time. I have a weathervane for the garage (not that much higher) that's been in a box for 6 years.

I've been to the top of the World Trade Center even, but anything over 10 feet freaks me out.

Oh, and oh yeah, last time I was on a ladder I fell out of a tree with a running chain saw. I have many more falling\electrical\fire stories.
lumberjim • Jan 26, 2004 4:38 pm
your last words will most likely be " hey y'all, watch this!" ??

what the f were you doing up in a tree with a chain saw?!

- i know, you were obviously pruning the tree, but, what the hell were you doing up in a tree with a chain saw?!
Happy Monkey • Jan 26, 2004 4:42 pm
Originally posted by lumberjim
but, what the hell were you doing up in a tree with a chain saw?!
This from a guy named lumberjim?
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 26, 2004 7:07 pm
Perhaps you are thinking of this article on Cockeyed?
Nope. not it.:confused:
Kitsune • Jan 26, 2004 9:37 pm
Well, xoxoxoBruce, if you happen to find it let me know! I'd be a little creeped out if someone did attempt the same thing from USF's campus in a similar location.

Very creeped out, actually, but pleased to know there are some other strange people out there who do similar things.
Elspode • Jan 27, 2004 12:44 am
Originally posted by e unibus plurum
what about lashing the weather balloons to an aluminum lawn chair and...

http://www.markbarry.com/lawnchairman.html


I seriously consider this guy to be one of the most amazing aviation pioneers of our time...
blue58 • Jan 27, 2004 8:37 am
Originally posted by lumberjim
your last words will most likely be " hey y'all, watch this!" ??

what the f were you doing up in a tree with a chain saw?!

- i know, you were obviously pruning the tree, but, what the hell were you doing up in a tree with a chain saw?!


Actually the ladder was leaning against the tree and when I cut off the very large branch the whole thing shifted on me. I was "pruning" because the fucking electric company hacked out & off 30 some trees in and near my back yard.

So not only was I in a tree with a chainsaw, I was in a tree PISSED with a chainsaw (can't remember if there was alcohol involved, but I'm sure there must have been). My wife watched the whole thing, she's seen me do so many stupid things resulting in near death, it doesn't even phase her anymore.

I'm still pissed about the trees.
blue58 • Jan 27, 2004 8:38 am
btw Kitsune, forgot to mention, but those pics were awesomely cool!
Leus • Jan 27, 2004 8:40 am
I found this project very interesting:

http://vpizza.org/~jmeehan/balloon/
Kitsune • Jan 27, 2004 9:52 am
Leus, I now have a new goal. :D