Man Talk thread for the men

Undertoad • Dec 16, 2003 7:34 pm
Hey I got a new hand truck at Lowe's. It's a folding hand truck. Now you're gonna mock me for getting a folding hand truck, but if I ever make some money, I plan on getting one of those RX-8s or 350Zs, and you need all the room you can save in one of those, and I got my bass rig to move around.

The bass rig has two speaker cabinets that are 50 pounds each, and I plan on putting in a power amp that's 40 pounds. So, hand truck time. The folding one isn't made to cart refrigerators around, it's only rated at 200 pounds. But the cool thing is, it's made out of aluminum. So it's super light itself, which makes it perfect for the cabinets.
elSicomoro • Dec 16, 2003 7:39 pm
I fucking hate shaving. HATE it. Thank God I don't have to shave every day b/c I'd lose my fucking mind if I had to. Plus, my skin is so ridiculously sensitive, I cut myself just looking at it the wrong way.

Of course, I've made shaving more difficult by growing sideburns. But the sideburns look good on me, so it's worth the extra trouble.
Happy Monkey • Dec 16, 2003 7:49 pm
Was it one of these? I got one. Pretty cool. Warning: do not let anyone pull the tray down without pushing the release button. The leverage is enough to bend the bars. So I got another one.
Undertoad • Dec 16, 2003 8:06 pm
Hmm... real close, same wheels and platform, but this one has a mechanism that locks in the open position. Although it looks like it would break if you tried to *close* it...
elSicomoro • Dec 16, 2003 8:12 pm
Jimbo, I've seen several Asian pussies...they are NOT sideways.
Elspode • Dec 16, 2003 8:20 pm
Not on the *outside*, Syc... :D
lumberjim • Dec 16, 2003 8:21 pm
CUNT CUNT CUNT!
Beestie • Dec 16, 2003 8:48 pm
Sycamore wrote:
fucking hate shaving.


I used to till I got a Panasonic 'lectric shaver (wet/dry). I shave before going to bed and skip in the morning. Has a beard trimmer attachment (a must have).

Haven't used a razor in years and don't plan on ever using another one.

On another, more manly note, PEG! Bring me a beer!

**Urp!**

And for the handtruck, are the wheels inflatable? If so, go ahead and buy one of those cigarette lighter pumps. They really do work and the air runs out of those hand truck wheels pretty fast (especially when you really need it!). Lowes is good.
lumberjim • Dec 16, 2003 8:53 pm
shaving......fuck it. i'm growing a beard.
elSicomoro • Dec 16, 2003 9:15 pm
I can't do that, other than the goattee that I normally have. After 3 days, I start itching like crazy.
jinx • Dec 16, 2003 9:19 pm
Evidence that Ljim has stopped shaving (and using his nose-hair trimmer too apparently...):
OnyxCougar • Dec 16, 2003 9:25 pm
:) [COLOR=indigo]Proof. Aren't digi cameras great?[/COLOR]
elSicomoro • Dec 16, 2003 9:30 pm
Hey, as long as you don't scare any potential car buyers off, more power to you.

I usually shave every other day...I'm not sure if it's a good idea for me to do tonight given my NyQuil-induced buzz, but what the hell...
Griff • Dec 16, 2003 9:32 pm
A cool thing about being male is my not having paid for a haircut in about four years. Unfortunately, yesterday I broke the last plastic guard on my Oster razor fer my head. My hair is now 1/16 of an inch long. Me likey!
jinx • Dec 16, 2003 9:35 pm
Originally posted by OnyxCougar
:) [COLOR=indigo]Proof. Aren't digi cameras great?[/COLOR]


I big red puffy heart mine.
elSicomoro • Dec 16, 2003 9:40 pm
Done with shaving...not bad, only a couple of nicks, didn't fuck up the burns...go me!

I usually get a hair cut every 3-4 weeks. I attempted to grow my hair out earlier this year (didn't get a hair cut for almost 2 months), but I just wasn't digging it. I will probably dye it again before Xmas though...maybe I'll go blonde.
Sun_Sparkz • Dec 16, 2003 9:46 pm
Originally posted by sycamore
D...I will probably dye it again before Xmas though...maybe I'll go blonde.


Thought this was a mans thread for man talk?
bmgb • Dec 16, 2003 9:50 pm
I suppose I could put it in the REM (dreams) thread instead, but last night I dreamed I had a beard. It was horrible!
elSicomoro • Dec 16, 2003 10:00 pm
Originally posted by Sun_Sparkz
Thought this was a mans thread for man talk?


And guys don't dye their hair? Shit, I do...I have for almost 10 years.

Guess I should leave out the part about painting my toe nails and finger nails on occasion, eh?
russotto • Dec 16, 2003 10:10 pm
Some people have 5:00 shadow. I have 9:00 shadow. I wish someone would make an electric which would really work, too.
Sun_Sparkz • Dec 16, 2003 10:12 pm
point taken.

just thought youd be talkin bout engines and getting muddy, and beer and naked women... not contemplating the next shade of hair dye youll be testing.

Syc, when i am blonde, it tends to make me look paler than browner.. and you cant wear red lippy, or red tops with out looking strangely porcelian.

food 4 ya thought.
elSicomoro • Dec 16, 2003 10:18 pm
I have a medium-dark complexion, so looking pale is not an issue for me. And I don't wear lipstick. :)
elSicomoro • Dec 16, 2003 10:21 pm
Originally posted by russotto
Some people have 5:00 shadow. I have 9:00 shadow. I wish someone would make an electric which would really work, too.


The one time I used an electric razor, it was nice...worked pretty well. I've considered buying one, but then I always think of something else to buy.
Sun_Sparkz • Dec 16, 2003 10:22 pm
guys always look great with subtle blonde foils, or tips, rather than the whole head doused in peroxide.. IMO anyway. ;)
dar512 • Dec 16, 2003 10:48 pm
Originally posted by sycamore
I fucking hate shaving. HATE it. Thank God I don't have to shave every day b/c I'd lose my fucking mind if I had to. Plus, my skin is so ridiculously sensitive, I cut myself just looking at it the wrong way.


Full beard. Electric razor.

No no. No thanks necessary.
dar512 • Dec 16, 2003 10:50 pm
Originally posted by sycamore
I can't do that, other than the goattee that I normally have. After 3 days, I start itching like crazy.


That passes by the seventh day.
zippyt • Dec 16, 2003 11:09 pm
Damn SYC do you dye your Pubes as well ?????
to get back on a more MANLY note ,
check out my tractor ,
Elspode • Dec 16, 2003 11:29 pm
Umpf umpf umpf umpf! Tractor good! More power....aw aw aw aw aw aw aw aw!!!
lumberjim • Dec 16, 2003 11:38 pm
Originally posted by sycamore


And guys don't dye their hair? Shit, I do...I have for almost 10 years.

Guess I should leave out the part about painting my toe nails and finger nails on occasion, eh?



aw,

syc

wow.

guh.... I mean....


man

blonde?

aren't you a swarthy Italian type? You'd look like a fanoke with blonde hair. Highlights?! What the fuck is this?! where's the camera?


oh.............I see......the irony.....we were using the "C" word in the girls thread.......we deserve to have to read about hair treatments as a pennance. Well done, sun_sparkz. and you too, Sycamore Arnold.

cool tractor, zippy! Go get it muddy!

:Scratch: :Scratch:. :Spit!:
Hubris Boy • Dec 16, 2003 11:38 pm
That's not a tractor. That looks like something little girls play with when they outgrow their Barbie Jeeps.

THIS is a tractor:

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Sun_Sparkz • Dec 16, 2003 11:42 pm
glad we understumble each other.. :joylove:
lumberjim • Dec 17, 2003 12:03 am
zippyT's tractor on the brown acid:
Whit • Dec 17, 2003 1:10 am
      Damn car. It died on me. Rather it died on a cold morning and hasn't started since. Turns over just fine, just won't start. Thought maybe the fuel pump died, but ruled that out by priming the engine to no avail, shoulda started then died. Thought maybe it wasn't gettin' any fire, checked the rotor, looked a bit burnt so I replaced the cap and rotor. Still no go. Now I'm having to recharge the battery after the repeated attempts to start the car.
      Plus since they actually try to enforce the "no working on vehicles" rule in my complex everything gets done in ten minute spurts.
      Damn car.
Whit • Dec 17, 2003 1:27 am
      Saw a brand new Wavemaster for sale here in town pretty cheap. For those of you that don't know it's a punching bag that instead of hanging has a water/sand filled base. The things rock. Since they're not on a chain they move more freely making follow up strikes and kicks work better with natural body flow. I had one for months on extended loan from a friend, loved it.
      Problem is that now I'm in an apartment on the second floor. Bet the sound would carry through the floor. It would suck to have it and not be able to use it... Those things just sit there begging to be hit. Be a shame not to...
wolf • Dec 17, 2003 1:29 am
Originally posted by zippyt
Damn SYC do you dye your Pubes as well ?????


My (gay, like I had to point that out) friend's boyfriend DOES dye the carpet to match the drapes.
SteveDallas • Dec 17, 2003 1:35 am
[Tim Allen]grunt[/Tim Allen] Good call, Tony, I was thinking about starting this thread!

I hate to disrespect another man's landscaping equipment. But, zippy, that sun shade kind of detracts from the manly aura.

I haven't shaved since 1988, just beard & mustache trims every couple weeks or so.

Tony, I thought you were going to say that those cars you're fantasizing about are so small you could move them with the hand truck! ;)
insoluble • Dec 17, 2003 1:36 am
Originally posted by Whit
      Damn car. It died on me. Rather it died on a cold morning and hasn't started since. Turns over just fine, just won't start. Thought maybe the fuel pump died, but ruled that out by priming the engine to no avail, shoulda started then died. Thought maybe it wasn't gettin' any fire, checked the rotor, looked a bit burnt so I replaced the cap and rotor. Still no go. Now I'm having to recharge the battery after the repeated attempts to start the car.
      Plus since they actually try to enforce the "no working on vehicles" rule in my complex everything gets done in ten minute spurts.
      Damn car.


perhaps water in the fuel line? (frozen of course)
did you pull a plug wire and get it to spark to the engine block?
wolf • Dec 17, 2003 1:38 am
Originally posted by sycamore
I will probably dye it again before Xmas though...maybe I'll go blonde.


Crap. I'm not relating any better here than I was on the girltalk thread. What the hell is up with you people??? :confused:
Whit • Dec 17, 2003 1:42 am
      Considered the ice in the line, but I've since tried to start it on a warm day, and I've tried priming it directly. No dice. Haven't checked for fire directly, when I saw the burned rotor, I thought, "Aha!" and figured I had it...
Whit • Dec 17, 2003 1:46 am
      Wolf, it's just you, their's nothing up with the rest of us. Don't make me go over to the girl talk thread to make a point. Perhaps you've been ignoring meaningless gender roles for so long the basis of the threads irks you at a basic level?
wolf • Dec 17, 2003 1:59 am
No, I'm really just making fun of Sycamore.
Gwennie! • Dec 17, 2003 2:26 am
Originally posted by wolf


Crap. I'm not relating any better here than I was on the girltalk thread. What the hell is up with you people??? :confused:


Yeah, I was expected a higher level of testosterone than this.
:)
Beestie • Dec 17, 2003 6:38 am
What kind of knife do y'all carry around? I have two that I alternate - here is the one I have with me abou 90% of the time. It is made out of kevlar and steel and nearly indestructable. You can't see it in the pic but it also has a nice clip and a thump flipper making retrieval and one-hand opening a breeze. And you should hear this thing when it snaps open.

9-3/4" Benchmade

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Griff • Dec 17, 2003 7:13 am
I either carry a plain old case or one of Helle's more primitive models. Its a nice little hunting knife. Are we doing better Wolfie?
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 17, 2003 7:22 am
I'm real unhappy with Benchmade knives. I have a full auto that I broke the tip off the blade. You know, one of those "I shouldn't be doing this because I'm going to break the tip" and your right! They refused to sell me another blade so I reground the blade into a drop point. Then the spring broke, this time not my fault, it just wore out. They wouldn't rebuild the knife or sell me the spring. Basicly they told me to go fuck myself. Really pissed me off because it was the only full auto knife I've every had that the blade didn't wiggle when open and I'd paid a couple hundred bucks for it. :(
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 17, 2003 7:31 am
Originally posted by Whit
[B Problem is that now I'm in an apartment on the second floor. Bet the sound would carry through the floor. It would suck to have it and not be able to use it... Those things just sit there begging to be hit. Be a shame not to... [/B]
I think one of those vibration pads from an industrial supply should take care of that.
BrianR • Dec 17, 2003 7:36 am
I carry a Smith and Wesson SW-2000 knife all the time...haven't broken the point on it yet. Pic below.

I used to carry a Cold Steel knife, but Dagney packed it away when she moved and we haven't come across it yet. Carried that one for five years with no damage to the blade, but managed to break off the Kevlar (I think that's what it is) belt clip. I ought to send it back to Cold Steel, but I'm too cheap and lazy.

My current knife:
Undertoad • Dec 17, 2003 8:51 am
I want a Leatherman to carry around but I'm embarrassed by the name.
FileNotFound • Dec 17, 2003 9:20 am
Shaving:
Hate it. Used to use Mach3 and tear myself to shreads with it.
Was suggested to try Braun SynchroShave 7600 series. Did. Never going back to razors.

Tractor:
No.

Car:
Working. Chrysler Concorde LXi 2001. Red...makes it go fasta.

Knife:
Benchmade Balisong

DigiCam:
Olympus C-750

Dye:
Hell no.
SteveDallas • Dec 17, 2003 9:38 am
Originally posted by Undertoad
I want a Leatherman to carry around but I'm embarrassed by the name.

Aw come on, we wouldn't thank any less of you, Toni. Err I mean Tony. ;)

I have a Leatherman super-tool (more double entendres??? Are these intentional??) But I rarely carry it; it usually lives on top of the fridge.
dar512 • Dec 17, 2003 10:02 am
Knives: I carry this bad boy I bought it after the city of chicago confiscated my previous locking knife.
lumberjim • Dec 17, 2003 10:23 am
i carry the leatherman squirt:
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it is commonly referred to as "the tool".......

pretty funny when my mother-in-law or sister in law asks to borrow my tool to open something.....

"hey, jim, can i see your tool?"

this is my second one, and i feel all fucked up without it in my pocket.......super useful.
wolf • Dec 17, 2003 10:51 am
Originally posted by Undertoad
I want a Leatherman to carry around but I'm embarrassed by the name.


Buy a Gerber Multifunction Tool.

Name's not as catchy, but the quality is higher. They also have a locking system that keeps the tools from folding back onto your hand when you try to use them (a big failing of most of the multitools, from the venerable Swiss Army Knife onward).

I'm a big fan of Gerber products — the legendary blades, not the baby food, although I confess a fondness for their prunes with tapioca.
Happy Monkey • Dec 17, 2003 10:53 am
I carry this one. I had a Leatherman, but it had one major design flaw - in plier mode, the hollow side of the handles pointed outwards, so when I tried to use it, the edges dug into my hand. The Bucktool fixed that problem, but one can only do a twisting action counterclockwise. Perhaps this one fixes both problems, but I haven't tried it yet.

(on preview - see wolf's post. The Bucktool does have the locking mechanism as well, though)
dar512 • Dec 17, 2003 11:07 am
Originally posted by lumberjim

"hey, jim, can i see your tool?"


Speaking of tools, your comment reminded me of a friend from Seattle who works with a "Richard Johnson". What were his parents thinking?
Kitsune • Dec 17, 2003 11:13 am
Originally posted by BrianR
I carry a Smith and Wesson SW-2000 knife all the time...


I carry a H&K .45 USP Compact unless I'm headed to school or work. You know, I have to commute through a bad neighborhood.

...oh, a knife! Hmm. I have a SOG Blink which I'm pretty fond of. The belt clip keeps coming lose, but the knife is easily opened with a little nudge.

Used to have a Leatherman and did really well with it until I attempted to open the file outside in the dark while attempting to jimmy open a gate I had locked myself out of. On opening the file and locking it down with my fingers, I felt an odd pinch, followed by the sound of blood dripping on the ground.

Note to folding tool designers: do not put the knife on the opposite side of the file in an analogous position.
dar512 • Dec 17, 2003 11:27 am
Originally posted by Kitsune

Used to have a Leatherman and did really well with it until I attempted to open the file outside in the dark while attempting to jimmy open a gate I had locked myself out of. On opening the file and locking it down with my fingers, I felt an odd pinch, followed by the sound of blood dripping on the ground.


That's what you get for pulling those petty burglary jobs. :D
Kitsune • Dec 17, 2003 11:28 am
Originally posted by dar512


That's what you get for pulling those petty burglary jobs. :D


"It's not your knife until you've cut yourself with it by accident at least once."
hot_pastrami • Dec 17, 2003 12:20 pm
Too many times, the standard Leatherman's lack of locking tools has made for a dicey moment, so I don't even bother carrying it anymore. I'd like to find a well-made multitool with locking tools and, if possible, insulated handles. If I had a dime for every time I've been shocked using my Leatherman on a live circuit, the replacement would be paid for.

That Wavemaster looks interesting... I have a hanging heavy bag (cough), but in the new house there's nowhere handy to set it up, and I've missed having it. Something like this could be scooted away into a closet or corner when not in use.

Speakly of manly, I am going to become slightly less manly over the weekend, when the fellow who bought my Supercharged Camaro SS comes to pick it up. I am NOT looking forward to watching someone else drive away in my car, I'll probably be gripped with a case of aggravated Tourette's for a day or two. Fuck. Maybe I'll have to smoke a cigar or two out on the deck to Freud some manliness back.

So, you guys think a Glock 26 is too sissy? I wanted a carryable 9mm, but the Glock 26 is awfully wee. Definitely very carryable, though.
wolf • Dec 17, 2003 12:37 pm
No Glock is sissy. If you have your heart set on a nine, but don't want the full size frame, I'd strongly suggest checking out the Glock 19, which is the compact frame. (You're looking at the sub-compact).

I carry a Glock 23, which is the compact frame .40 ... better one-shot stop percentages (upwards of 95-96, IIRC) than the 9mm with CorBon 165 grain hollow points.

The compact frame glocks are easily concealable. It's all in the holster. My preference is for a DeSantis fitted female paddle style holster, while slang prefers a Kramer Handgun Leather belt slide style for his Glock 30 (Which is the same frame size you're looking at in an undeniably manly caliber).
wolf • Dec 17, 2003 12:50 pm
This is the knife I'm carrying right now. I tried searching the manufacturer's website for one of their beauty shots, but the design appears to have been discontinued. At one time, Spyderco would custom make knives in this style. The customer's company logo would replace theirs on the blade. Blade length is 6cm

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Detail of just the blade:

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Again, no manufacturer's beauty shot available of a discontinued Gerber Mark I Tactical. It's usually regarded as a "boot knife" because of the relatively short blade. Blade length is 12cm, 21.5cm overall. The "tactical" aspect is that it has serrations on either side of the blade. The standard Mark I is a straight-bladed knife.

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I had to change my carry at work to cut drawstrings out of pants knife because my boss thought this one was too intimidating. It's actually just a standard folder, a Gerber E-Z Out, but I have this habit of flicking it open by holding the blade and shaking it and *snick*, I'm holding a knife. It's a nice bit of slight of hand, but scary to some people, I guess.
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This last knife is technically more of a doodad, but it looks neat. You'll see why I ended up with it.
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Beestie • Dec 17, 2003 1:18 pm
Nice collection there, Wolf.

Damn! This is the man thread and my knife collection is bested by a GIRL! :)
Griff • Dec 17, 2003 1:37 pm
Originally posted by FileNotFound
Shaving:
Hate it. Used to use Mach3 and tear myself to shreads with it.
Was suggested to try Braun SynchroShave 7600 series. Did. Never going back to razors.

Tractor:
No.

Car:
Working. Chrysler Concorde LXi 2001. Red...makes it go fasta.

Knife:
Benchmade Balisong

DigiCam:
Olympus C-750

Dye:
Hell no.


Shaving: triple blade

Tractors: Farmall H, 460, New Holland 29 4wd

Car? pickup: Nissan

Knife: Helle

Digi Cam: We'll talk after Christmas

Dye: dye what?

Chainsaw: Husqvarna 51
hot_pastrami • Dec 17, 2003 2:00 pm
Oh yeah, on the shaving thing... I must be one of the wierdos. I enjoy shaving. I used an electric for a the first couple years, but then switched to a blade and never went back. I currently use a Mach 3, which works well.

I like the smells involved with shaving, and I like the feel of it. It probably helps that I don't have sensitive skin, and I've never had razorburn.

Some say that I am unusual.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 17, 2003 2:07 pm
Originally posted by Beestie
Nice collection there, Wolf.

Damn! This is the man thread and my knife collection is bested by a GIRL! :)
Well here's some of them. 5 autos, a CIA letter opener, a Blackie Collins "Strut 'N Cut" ('cause I liked the name), a Boker slider and 2 silver leafs open/closed.:)
dar512 • Dec 17, 2003 2:08 pm
Originally posted by hot_pastrami
Some say that I am unusual.


Fish. Barrel. Blam.

Yea. I think most of the folks around here have said it once or twice.


a day. :D
wolf • Dec 17, 2003 2:08 pm
Originally posted by Beestie
Nice collection there, Wolf.

Damn! This is the man thread and my knife collection is bested by a GIRL! :)


I'm a rather exceptional girl ...

Funny work story ... we confiscate various weapons, mostly knives, scizzors and box cutters off patients coming in all the time. They are pretty much without fail totally cheap pakistani crap as sold by HSN, but there are occasional gems.

One day I was working with a part-timer who didn't know of some of my more unusual interest areas and she said, "what's this?" holding up a cheap flea-market butterfly knife in a manner that appeared to indicate she was fearful that it would attack her of it's own volition.

"Hmm, lemme see," I said, and took the offered blade from her and started flipping it around in a manner that would have made Bruce Lee proud. She made a little squeaking noise for some reason ... come to think of it, she doesn't work for us anymore ... I wonder why?
dar512 • Dec 17, 2003 2:10 pm
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
Well here's some of them. 5 autos, a CIA letter opener, a Blackie Collins "Strut 'N Cut" ('cause I liked the name), a Boker slider and 2 silver leafs open/closed.:)


Wow. Doesn't it seem statistically anomalous that we have this many knife nuts on cellar? I wonder what it means?
wolf • Dec 17, 2003 2:11 pm
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
Well here's some of them. 5 autos, a CIA letter opener, a Blackie Collins "Strut 'N Cut" ('cause I liked the name), a Boker slider and 2 silver leafs open/closed.:)


The silver leaves are very classy. I like those a lot. Blackie Collins was a designer for Gerber for a while. I have one of his knives in a box somewhere ... haven't seen it since I moved the last time (which was about 8 or so years ago). It's probably with my kubaton and some other goodies.

I have a bunch of other knives around here ... and some swords.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 17, 2003 2:16 pm
This one is very strange. Purported to be a Chinese Police Knife, it hangs from the belt by a bracket. You grab the handle and push the button while yanking it down. 2" of the blade comes out of the sheath/hanger but 3'' comes up out of the handle. Very strange.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 17, 2003 2:46 pm
Heres another bunch of miscellanies. One even has a folding 6" steel rule, accurate too. I'll have to dig out the fixed blade knives but I have not one sword in the house. None, zip, zero. I did throw in a half dozen tire spikes. ;)
vsp • Dec 17, 2003 3:06 pm
I have a pair of scissors and a box of steak knives. I will go now.
Kitsune • Dec 17, 2003 3:07 pm
If this is the Man Talk thread, we should all be taking the man's oath.

"I am a Man, but I can change. If I have to. I guess."
Gwennie! • Dec 17, 2003 3:12 pm
I like the Milwaukee Sawz All.

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I had to cut apart a gnarly rusty old big-ass roof antenna. All metal - a chain saw is useless there. The Sawz All cut thru that thing like butter. It made quick work of that beast. And I didn't even break a nail.

Vrooooooom !!!!

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blue58 • Dec 17, 2003 3:14 pm
OK< Now I'm getting a woody.
SteveDallas • Dec 17, 2003 3:36 pm
Originally posted by blue58
OK< Now I'm getting a woody.

Well, you know, that's what saws are for, to saw off... well. Anyway.
dar512 • Dec 17, 2003 6:21 pm
Originally posted by wolf

"Hmm, lemme see," I said, and took the offered blade from her and started flipping it around in a manner that would have made Bruce Lee proud. She made a little squeaking noise for some reason ... come to think of it, she doesn't work for us anymore ... I wonder why?


Wuss. I would've clapped. :thumb:
Hubris Boy • Dec 17, 2003 6:38 pm
:joylove: HB tested and approved:

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elSicomoro • Dec 17, 2003 8:17 pm
I figured I'd get some shit for the hair-dyeing, but it's all good. You can all go fuck yourselves. :)

I have a basic toolkit, but I'm not mechanically inclined.

I love fast cars, but I have a grocery-getter.

No tractor, no digicam, a couple of knives that I can't find...and I use a Mach 3.
zippyt • Dec 17, 2003 8:20 pm
All righty then , I was just ragging on SYC , but hell this MANLY thread is going in the right direction now !!!!:D

Pistol : Glock 23 , it fit my hand better that the G22 and it is more concealable , also when i bought it the mag ban was just fixing to hit , 10 round mags were CHEAP !!! I have 5 . Fobis slide holster .

Tractor : the sun shade was on the tractor when i bought it , and it does get in the way some time , but it is so nich to stand on when i have to like clean out the gutters , or climb on the roof of the shed , or just need a mobile work platform about 6-7 feet off the ground . Kuboto B7100hst 4wd 16 HP .

Knifes : I ALL ways have a Spyderco dragonfly in my pocket , i also have an enduro ( plastic handle ) and one with a stainless handle ( for dress ocations ) , various swiss army knifes (victorenox ONLY !!!) , a gerber multi tool ( you can unscrew the tools and rearange them ) , a Spyderco multi tool ( FUCKING useless thing !!!) , 2 different columbia river folders , and a large assortment of various pocket knifes i have stumbled on to over the years ,
oh and wolf if you want to impress me with butterfly knifes , try working 2 at the same time , i can flip 1 up as i flip 1 down at the same time , that freaked out a would be mugger once .

Fixed blades , a kabar ( of corse ) , a cheap ass tanto point ( that will punch a hole in a wall locker ) a german baonette from WW1, and my fav is a Bianchi knight hawk ( exelent ballance , HARD ass steel , DAMN fine blade )

Recip saws : HELL YES !!!!

Big ass drill : i was useing one just like the pic once with a 1 1/2 auger bit on a ladder once , i found a nail and went flying .


Oh and HP are you fucking stupid working on a LIVE circut with an uninsulated tool ?????? You DESERVE to get shocked .
hot_pastrami • Dec 17, 2003 8:30 pm
Originally posted by zippyt
Oh and HP are you fucking stupid working on a LIVE circut with an uninsulated tool ?????? You DESERVE to get shocked .

Some would call me stupid. I am one such person.

I used to a lot of work on low-voltage circuits, and when there was a problem, I was too lazy to go grab my toolbox when I had my leatherman on me. It wasn't enough voltage to hurt anybody, just enough to cause a short spurt of spontaneous profanity. And I was practiced enough that I 95% of the time, I didn't get shocked. No biggie.
zippyt • Dec 17, 2003 8:51 pm
HP said I used to a lot of work on low-voltage circuits, and when there was a problem, I was too lazy to go grab my toolbox when I had my leatherman on me. It wasn't enough voltage to hurt anybody, just enough to cause a short spurt of spontaneous profanity. And I was practiced enough that I 95% of the time, I didn't get shocked. No biggie.


I work on mostly 12v dc circuts and have worked on up to 440vac . It is BAD practis to use un insulated tools for ANY live circut . I know phone lines are only 52 vdc but you can short out other stuff when you get shocked and you jump and drop your leatherman and start the pissed off dance ( cussing and kicking ) .
besides leatherman tools are soft compaired to a good hardened tip pocket screwdriver. I carry a flat head , phillips , a small pair of dykes ( diaganal cutters for you non-tech folks) , a small set of channel locks ,and a small roll of electrical tape in my pockets at work ALL the time . Some times ( most of the time ) i can fix whats wrong with just these few tools.
Undertoad • Dec 17, 2003 9:27 pm
I put a live phone wire in my mouth once.

I touched an electrical fence once.
elSicomoro • Dec 17, 2003 9:33 pm
I used to touch the ends of 9V batteries to my tongue.

And I've shocked myself on a couple of outlets...bad grounding perhaps...*shrugs*
zippyt • Dec 17, 2003 9:40 pm
UT said I put a live phone wire in my mouth once.


If it had rang at that instance you would have done the pissed off dance in time with the ringer !!!
I used to put alarms in . One day i was working with this butthead , just a total asshole !! He had this bad habbit of putting the end of wires in his maoth when he was wireing up panels . I just happen to be hooking up the end of one of these wires one day ( dedacated phone line ), i could see him thru the window , he put the wire in his mouth and i hooked it up to the phone block .
BOY did he do the pissed off dance :rar: :rar:
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 17, 2003 10:38 pm
I was working at a power plant in East Texas when it came time to pack up the work trailer. About 8 ft up on the side of the trailer was an access door about 18" square. Through this door went the 440 volt ac feed and the phone wire.
I would disconnect the phone lead and after we left, the plant electrician would disconnect the 440 volt line. It was well insulated but on an aluminum ladder, against an aluminum trailer with an earth ground, I would reach in gingerly the pull the phone line. Really not a biggy since phones are low voltage. Well, in East Texas the phones were using 110 volt dc. I thought I was a dead man. :eek:
Elspode • Dec 18, 2003 12:55 am
I have only gotten two bad shocks in my life. As a young aspiring guitar player, I learned early on that bare feet on a dampish concrete floor is all wrong for playing the electric guitar.

As a somewhat older aspiring electrician's slave, I cut into a 220 volt line with a pair of sidecutters on order from the "journeyman" union electrician I was slaving for. "Oh, yeah, you can just cut that, the whole circuit is dead. Turned it off myself!"

Asshole.
lumberjim • Dec 18, 2003 1:02 am
When i was young(14?), my mom borrowed a friends rototiller to till her veg. garden.....she calls me over...tiller still running......and shouts over the din," how do you turn it off?!"

i inspected it, saw no kill switch of any kind, so i simply yanked the spark plug wire off. my hand bounced off that thing so hard, it swung around and slapped me in the back of the head. i still glow in the dark.
zippyt • Dec 18, 2003 1:06 am
I had an experence with a TIG welder that left me 20 feet from where i started picking my smokeing ass up off the floor .

I snagged one of these bad boys a while back , Marlin .44mag .
zippyt • Dec 18, 2003 1:18 am
LJ said When i was young(14?), my mom borrowed a friends rototiller to till her veg. garden.....she calls me over...tiller still running......and shouts over the din," how do you turn it off?!" i inspected it, saw no kill switch of any kind, so i simply yanked the spark plug wire off. my hand bounced off that thing so hard, it swung around and slapped me in the back of the head. i still glow in the dark.


WELL DAMN THAT EXPLAINS ALOT !!!!!!!

Hey LJ come piss on this wire :rolleyes:
lumberjim • Dec 18, 2003 1:35 am
Originally posted by zippyt



Hey LJ come piss on this wire :rolleyes:



hey! that's not a wire!
wolf • Dec 18, 2003 2:02 am
Originally posted by Beestie
Nice collection there, Wolf.


Thank you. :)

Damn! This is the man thread and my knife collection is bested by a GIRL! :)


Looks like bruce has managed to save the day and reclaim your collective manly honor. Go bruce!!

(you know this just may spur me into getting something cooler than cool at the gun show this weekend ... if you're in the area, just in time for Christmas and Chanukah and Kwanzaa and Solistice giving ... Valley Forge Convention Center, 12/20-21/2003. Friend of a friend runs the show. Great quality stuff, good deals, no crappy flea market vendors.)
Griff • Dec 18, 2003 7:16 am
I fried an earlier version of this drill doing the peg holes in my timber frame. It had done a lot of hammer drill work in concrete previously though so lets not blame Milwaukee. musical interlude- "what made Milwaukee famous has made a loser out of me."

Never believe journeyman electricians, its their job to kill off any apprentices who show any ahem potential.
Kitsune • Dec 18, 2003 10:42 am
Originally posted by Elspode
As a somewhat older aspiring electrician's slave, I cut into a 220 volt line with a pair of sidecutters on order from the "journeyman" union electrician I was slaving for. "Oh, yeah, you can just cut that, the whole circuit is dead. Turned it off myself!"


I drained a 330V capcitor, that I thought was dead, into my arm while attempting to pull a bulb out of a strobe. I don't think the capcitor was "full", so there's no telling how much I took, but there was a momentary thought of "why won't my hand let go?" followed by a jump backwards and lots of screaming as the pain found its way up my arm and nearly into my shoulder.

Anyone know if there is any truth to the old wive's tale (old man's tale?) of touching potentially live wires with the back of your hand? The idea, from what I've heard, is that if there is current flowing your muscles will jump and pull your arm away from it instead of grabbing the wire.

Personally, I prefer a multi-meter to that method or touching your tongue to it. :p
hot_pastrami • Dec 18, 2003 11:49 am
Originally posted by zippyt
It is BAD practis to use un insulated tools for ANY live circut . I know phone lines are only 52 vdc but you can short out other stuff when you get shocked and you jump and drop your leatherman and start the pissed off dance ( cussing and kicking ) .

Hey, I thought this was the MAN thread, what's with all this sissy talk?

My worst shocking was when I was working maintenance in a department store many years ago... it was my first week. There was a flourescent panel that was out, so I figured that it was a burned-out tube. Using my aluminum ladder, I removed the tube without incident, and went and got a new one. It turns out that the tube was fine, what had happened was the hot wire had come out of it's wirenut inside the fixture, and was grounding to the metal. I discovered this when I went to put the new tube in, and my finger grazed the fixture.

There was a guy buffing the floor not too far away, and I can imagine the scene from his perspective... out of nowhere, he hears a loud "Whaaaah!," followed immediately by the loud popping of a flourescent tube, and the sound of shattered glass raining to the floor. As this happens, the lights all go dark in that little corner of the store. He came running around the corner to see me in the dim light, standing on my ladder, covered in white phosphorus dust and surrounded by shards of broken glass.

"Are you ok?" has asked after staring for a moment.

"Oh, I'm fine," I said. "How are you?"

I was always a little carefuler after that. Amazingly, for all the times I was shocked on that 16-foot ladder, I never once fell to a bloody, broken death on the tiles below. I teetered a few times, but never fell. When standing on a ladder I always used insulated tools, but I always had to work on hot circuits because we couldn't have lights off while there were people in the store, and that resulted in brushes with electricity from time to time. The doctors say I might have brain damage, and that I may start using non-words like "carefuler" and "non-word."
Elspode • Dec 18, 2003 12:59 pm
Dude...your handle is Hot Pastrami, you just got married, and you live somewhere in the barren West, if my memory serves me correctly.

What do you mean the doctors say you *might* be brain damaged? :D
hot_pastrami • Dec 18, 2003 1:32 pm
Originally posted by Elspode
Dude...your handle is Hot Pastrami, you just got married, and you live somewhere in the barren West, if my memory serves me correctly.

What do you mean the doctors say you *might* be brain damaged? :D

Well, the doctors also say that I *might* be the sexiest creature ever to live. They must have an uncanny gift for understatement.

Cough.
wst3 • Dec 18, 2003 1:51 pm
Originally posted by Kitsune
<snip>

Anyone know if there is any truth to the old wive's tale (old man's tale?) of touching potentially live wires with the back of your hand? The idea, from what I've heard, is that if there is current flowing your muscles will jump and pull your arm away from it instead of grabbing the wire.

<snipped again>


Here's the deal... the reason you are supposed to use the back of your hand is not so much that you'll be repelled, that's a 50:50 thing<G>, but if your muscles do contract, at least you won't be grabbing the live wire.

I know that most sane people don't work on live circuits by choice, but consider this, if you work on a live circuit, and you do something stupid, you'll know instantly from the loud crack the subsequent loss of potential when the breaker trips. I almost always work on household circuits live for just that reason.

As far as telephone stuff goes, plain old telephone service is -48Vdc to -52Vdc, but can only deliver a few milliamps before various protective devices fire. ISDN, T1, and the like however run at -130Vdc, and can deliver quite a bit more current. I learned this when a telco guy mismarked a demarc point<G>!

As far as really high voltage stuff goes... the coolest thing I ever saw was a chain dropped across two phases of a 500KV circuit. I worked for the power company at the time, and we were testing our own protective systems. Two bucket trucks, one on either side of the line, and each guy holding one end of this big assed chain (I missed the part where they got the chain from one bucket to the other... I'd have really liked to see that!!!) On the count of three they drop the chain, and if causes a fault... but it also mysteriously disappears.

At the time we witnesses were all standing on rubber mats with out feet touching... anyone want to explain why?
ladysycamore • Dec 18, 2003 1:53 pm
Originally posted by sycamore
I fucking hate shaving. HATE it. Thank God I don't have to shave every day b/c I'd lose my fucking mind if I had to. Plus, my skin is so ridiculously sensitive, I cut myself just looking at it the wrong way.

Of course, I've made shaving more difficult by growing sideburns. But the sideburns look good on me, so it's worth the extra trouble.


Yes, yes, yes to the sideburns and ALWAYS, ALWAYS a hell yes for the goatee baby! :D
Kitsune • Dec 18, 2003 2:42 pm
Originally posted by wst3
As far as really high voltage stuff goes... the coolest thing I ever saw was a chain dropped across two phases of a 500KV circuit. I worked for the power company at the time, and we were testing our own protective systems. Two bucket trucks, one on either side of the line, and each guy holding one end of this big assed chain (I missed the part where they got the chain from one bucket to the other... I'd have really liked to see that!!!) On the count of three they drop the chain, and if causes a fault... but it also mysteriously disappears.


Damn! High voltage is cool.

But how is that possible? I thought that high voltage lines could only be worked on when shut down or, if left live, by helicopter. The helicopter gets close, becomes part of the circuit, and then is able to work on the line. If two guys were on bucket trucks and were holding a chain, I'd think they'd be too close and in the field. Wouldn't the bucket trucks then ground the field, cooking the guys, the chain, and all?
russotto • Dec 18, 2003 3:13 pm
Just being in the field doesn't get you lethal shocks. You can feel it and it makes fluorescent tubes light, though.
lumberjim • Dec 18, 2003 3:18 pm
i feel like that all the time.....call me uncle fester
insoluble • Dec 18, 2003 4:27 pm
Originally posted by ladysycamore


Yes, yes, yes to the sideburns and ALWAYS, [b]ALWAYS
a hell yes for the goatee baby! :D [/B]


keep it in the girlie thread!
warch • Dec 18, 2003 4:31 pm
Has anyone been electrocuted while shaving? Not that your pain would be cool or anything...
russotto • Dec 18, 2003 4:40 pm
Electrocuted, no. Sliced open by a damaged foil on an electric razor, yes. I don't know how it got damaged and the time I shave is far too early to be thinking about things like checking the foil for damage.

I use a rotary now.
warch • Dec 18, 2003 4:48 pm
Watching men shave or be shaved with blades or the dreaded straight razor, like say in the movies, is very uncomfortable for me...makes my butt pucker.
lumberjim • Dec 18, 2003 4:50 pm
do you have any pictures of that?
Undertoad • Dec 18, 2003 5:03 pm
wst3 - did it look like this?

http://cellar.org/2003/LugoSWR.mpg

(9 sec video, 1.5MB)
Kitsune • Dec 18, 2003 5:34 pm
Originally posted by Undertoad
wst3 - did it look like this?

http://cellar.org/2003/LugoSWR.mpg


Holy shit! :eek: What's going on there? A massive circuit breaker?
Undertoad • Dec 18, 2003 5:56 pm
I dunno! Found on another forum and the guy who put it up just said "my dad sent this to me".
Elspode • Dec 18, 2003 5:58 pm
More! More! Bravo! Bravo! Author! Pfffweeeeetttt!!!!
Undertoad • Dec 18, 2003 6:04 pm
I have a load of these stupid videoclips.

http://cellar.org/2003/mbike1.mpg

(Watch the bike continue on its way. Watch the people bail out!)
lumberjim • Dec 18, 2003 6:08 pm
put up a video clip thread......safe for work, please
Undertoad • Dec 18, 2003 6:09 pm
http://cellar.org/2003/branded.mpg

This is safe for work, as long as it's safe in your workplace for everyone to hear you scream "ow" at the top of your lungs.
Undertoad • Dec 18, 2003 6:09 pm
OK, video clip thread coming along... in quality imgs
lumberjim • Dec 18, 2003 6:13 pm
OHGODDAMN!

that one is great!

go horsey, go horsey!

fucker deserves it....hope he punctured a lung
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 18, 2003 7:17 pm
Originally posted by Kitsune


Holy shit! :eek: What's going on there? A massive circuit breaker?
When the switch is opened, the arc will continue as long as there's sufficient amperage to jump the gap.
The arc was drawn upward by the field of the high tension line above.
If two guys were on bucket trucks and were holding a chain, I'd think they'd be too close and in the field. Wouldn't the bucket trucks then ground the field, cooking the guys, the chain, and all?
A 500kv line will arc about 11 or 12 feet.
quzah • Dec 19, 2003 12:17 am
Originally posted by Griff
A cool thing about being male is my not having paid for a haircut in about four years.

Likewise.

Originally posted by Griff
Unfortunately, yesterday I broke the last plastic guard on my Oster razor fer my head. My hair is now 1/16 of an inch long. Me likey!

My hair is almost to my knees.

Quzah.
quzah • Dec 19, 2003 12:35 am
Originally posted by lumberjim
OHGODDAMN!

that one is great!

go horsey, go horsey!

fucker deserves it....hope he punctured a lung

Tears of laughter. That's a great clip. Thanks for the post UT. I had to watch that three of four times. It's a riot.

Quzah.
dar512 • Dec 19, 2003 10:48 am
Originally posted by Kitsune
Holy shit! :eek: What's going on there? A massive circuit breaker?

We were living in the Seattle area in January of 1993 when there was a tremendous wind storm - 70 mph winds. Well, those evergreens don't do very well in high winds and they were knocking down power lines like nobody's business.

I guess that did something bad to some of the power stations. That night, you could see these things going off miles away. Huge ball of light, then fade to black.

I tell you, it looked like a scene from War of the Worlds.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 19, 2003 6:06 pm
Dar, if the ball of light was yellowish-orangey, it was probably transformers exploding. They put on a great show.:)
Griff • Feb 12, 2004 2:24 pm
Update: The beard is back, that is all.
lumberjim • Feb 12, 2004 4:08 pm
oh no you don't.......LET'S HAVE A PHOTO
Griff • Feb 12, 2004 5:07 pm
Originally posted by lumberjim
oh no you don't.......LET'S HAVE A PHOTO


scroll down
lumberjim • Feb 12, 2004 5:21 pm
Originally posted by Griff


scroll down


hey, that's dar....whaddre ya trin ta pull?
Griff • Feb 12, 2004 6:10 pm
Image

Yes, that is a fake smile.
lumberjim • Feb 12, 2004 6:17 pm
very manly....mine's in full now, too, but jinx has all the pictures at home......
Troubleshooter • Feb 12, 2004 6:25 pm
I'm a bit late on showing my weapon here, but here it is in order of increasing range...

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First year run Gerber E-Z Out that I an't find a picture for.

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http://www.glock.com/g22.htm

The GLOCK 22 is a full-size pistol; while at the same time providing big bore performance

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http://www.mossberg.com/pcatalog/Specpurp.htm

#50668 590® 12 gauge Pump Action w/ Speed-Feed® synthetic stock, Ghost Ring Sights, 9-shot capacity, 20" cylinder bore barrel, parkerized finish.

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Since I'm not sure which model I have right off of the top of my head...

http://www.surplusrifle.com/sks/index.asp
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Enjoy
lumberjim • Feb 12, 2004 6:28 pm
you're sure to make points with wolf for that
Troubleshooter • Feb 12, 2004 6:31 pm
During my time in the US Navy, I was stationed on a 688 class submarine. When they were shutting down the reactor they had to have a LOT of juice. Two four strand cables from the pier that were as big around as my calf (I'm 5'6", 150# at the time) ran below to the junction box. When I stood on them I could feel the hum through the soles of my work boots and my feet would warm up.

It still amazes me.
elSicomoro • Feb 12, 2004 8:36 pm
Originally posted by Griff
Update: The beard is back, that is all.


Funny...I shaved my goattee off yesterday, along with my sideburns.
wolf • Feb 12, 2004 8:39 pm
Originally posted by Troubleshooter
I'm a bit late on showing my weapon here, but here it is in order of increasing range...


Nice factory pics.

Do you have any of the actuals?
lumberjim • Feb 12, 2004 8:48 pm
HERE WE GO

Image
Troubleshooter • Feb 13, 2004 11:08 am
Originally posted by wolf


Nice factory pics.

Do you have any of the actuals?


No, but I might borrow the digital camera from school and shoot a few.

I can show off the knife my uncle made as well. It's not pretty, but it's big and it's sharp. It would probably qualify as a scramasax.
ladysycamore • Feb 13, 2004 12:11 pm
Originally posted by sycamore


Funny...I shaved my goattee off yesterday, along with my sideburns.


Now I *really* look like I'm with a younger man...ha!

I miss the goatee already. :(
elSicomoro • Feb 13, 2004 7:52 pm
Ah shut up...it's growing back already. :)
JeepNGeorge • Feb 13, 2004 8:31 pm
Originally posted by sycamore


Funny...I shaved my goattee off yesterday, along with my sideburns.


I shaved mine a few days ago. I like to do that periodically to mess with people, it had been 3 years since I last saw my chin (and now I know why I like to hide it. ;) ) I don't think I trimmed it (besides mustache trim) for over 6 months so it was getting quite long. BUT NOBODY I MEAN NOBODY IS TAKING THE BURNS :P
Troubleshooter • Feb 14, 2004 1:34 pm
Originally posted by wolf


Nice factory pics.

Do you have any of the actuals?


And for the doubting Thomsina...

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Mossberg Model 590: Ghostring sight, 20" barrel, 9 round capacity

And I feed it:

-Federal: 2 3/4" #4 shot for standard use

-Federal: 2 3/4" #8 shot for home defense and home entry

-Federal: 3" magnum DSFSHP slug for zombies, cars, and crackheads

Glock Model 22: 2 pre-ban 15 rd magazines, 3 post-ban 10 rd magazines

I carry it in:

-Fobus GL2T level 2 paddle holster

And I feed it:

-Cor-Bon high velocity hollow points

and

-Black Talons

in a staggered load for some double-tap lovin'

And the knife is a hand made special from my uncle who made them from cross-cut saw blades. The blade is 12" long with a full tang, hardwood handle and brass riveted.

Is that better Wolf?

:rolleyes:
wolf • Feb 14, 2004 1:50 pm
Much! Very sweet indeed.

I have a fobus holster or two, but don't use them for regular carry ... my basic principle is "Why trust a $600 gun to a $20 holster?"

DeSantis makes a very nice product, reasonably priced (usually around $70-80) and are available in a variety of configurations to suit your stylistic choices. I prefer an open holster (friction hold) to one with a thumb break, but YMMV.

My carry load in .40 are the Cor-Bons also ... rated best for the caliber for one-shot-stop. Reasonably priced, too.
Troubleshooter • Feb 14, 2004 1:57 pm
Originally posted by wolf
Much! Very sweet indeed.

I have a fobus holster or two, but don't use them for regular carry ... my basic principle is "Why trust a $600 gun to a $20 holster?"


Plastic is cheap. I like that they make a great product out of an inexpensive material and don't lose their minds on the price.
mrnoodle • Feb 14, 2004 2:02 pm
mmmm. guns.

currently carrying a Springfield mil-spec .45 but it's cooler than a regular mil spec because it's high capacity! And it came with 2 15-rounders, which was kind of the selling point for me, with magazine prices what they are. Uses the same double-stack mags that Para-Ordnance uses. Nice chunky grip for my long skinny fingers. Cleaned up the trigger so it's ready for competition (at least at my level of skill). All it needs now is an ambidextrous safety and a set of PT triple-bar enhanced night sights and it will be my primary sidearm. Oh yeah, I also need to buy a mercury recoil reducer - incidentally, these things are the absolute shit. Troubleshooter, you should put one in your 22. I've had one in my 21 since the beginning and it really eliminates that weird Glock recoil.

I feed it Remington Golden Sabers in 185gr. and it lives in a Galco Fed Paddle.

Got a bunch more, but I'm tired of writing lol.
Troubleshooter • Feb 14, 2004 2:04 pm
Who makes that recoil reducer?
mrnoodle • Feb 14, 2004 2:11 pm
There's a couple of companies that make them, but Harrt's is the best, IMHO. All it is is a steel tube filled with mercury, suspended in which are stainless steel ball bearings. The tube replaces your current guide rod (and has a better spring on it, for that matter). When you fire, the balls move within the mercury and soak up lots and lots of muzzle flip.

Costs about 90 bucks retail, but you might be able to get it from Brownell's for much less. Gun dealers want to make you think there's some kind of smithing involved, but there's not.

Ahh. here's the website
Troubleshooter • Feb 14, 2004 2:15 pm
Dude, that's double-plus groovy.
wolf • Feb 14, 2004 2:20 pm
I'm totally digging that as well.

And it's available for my model.

And some of my other toys.
mrnoodle • Feb 14, 2004 2:25 pm
ain't it?

Hell, what was I thinking? The one you really need it for is the mossy. It goes in the buttstock, is much beefier than the pistol version. 00 buck heaven.

That one will cost you more. The part is cheaper, but you need a competent smith to install it correctly.

If you want to try it yourself, here's what ya do:

Take off the buttplate. It looks like you have a hollow stock, but there might be some additional material you have to take out of the inside to install this thing. If the buttplate is glued on, you'll have to buy another one, reshape the end of your stock, and reglue it. If you're lucky, it will just be screwed on.

Once you have the space cleared for the reducer, fill the buttstock with liquid acrylic and let it set up (takes anywhere from 5 hours to a week depending on environmental conditions :P
The acrylic does two things: holds the reducer and adds a pound or so to the butt end of the gun. With a long barrel, that's good for balance. With a combat shotgun, you might feel a little off-kilter with it..judgement call. The additional weight also helps reduce recoil, though.

Drill out a hold *slightly* wider than the diameter of the reducer, wrap the reducer in enough paper so that it's so snug you have to use a mallet to lightly tap it in (that way it won't rattle around).

Put it all back together and go shoot shit.
wolf • Feb 14, 2004 2:26 pm
I saw that you don't have to go through that crap for a Remington 870 ... oh lucky day.
Troubleshooter • Feb 14, 2004 2:37 pm
I'd take it to a smith. I don't presently have the facilities to do all of the stuff I want to do.
zippyt • Feb 15, 2004 1:17 am
mrnoodle said you should put one in your 22. I've had one in my 21 since the beginning and it really eliminates that weird Glock recoil.


What weird Glock recoil ???? Glocks are VERRRRY well balanced . One round will give you recoil , 2-3 in a rapid order will give you a raise only . As they tought us in the USMC on 1911's
" aim at his balls and click off 2-3 rounds quickley , after the last round you will be aiming at his head for a quick follow up shot if need be " Lots of soft tissue up that line of attack, and if dude has on a vest he will be on his ass by then any way .

Glock 23 with 165gr Federal Hydro-shocks . Fobis padle holster .
Hydro-shocks have been around for a long time , they rate VERRRRRY well on the one shot stop rateings , allways have , all ways will !!!!!!

129 gr Federal Hydro-shocks .38+P in my wifes .357 SW 649 .
mrnoodle • Feb 15, 2004 4:23 pm
I always found the Glocks to have a weird, almost twisty characteristic to them when fired. They don't fit my hand nearly as well as the either the single stack 1911 or my para-style, though. And I'm still biased against polymer stocks, but that's an emotional thing rather than practical.

As with most shooting-related problems, the problem is usually the shooter, not the equipment, so I'm willing to take a hit on this one ;)


However, Hydrashoks....eww. Too many stories about clothing clogging them up. A cop buddy from Texas even stopped one with nothing but a leather jacket and a hooded sweatshirt. Granted, it was a 9mm round that hit the zipper and travelled around to his back within the lining of the jacket (post terminal ballistics is a chancy thing with any 9mm). But I'm skeert.

.[SIZE=1]edit: of course, i went looking on the internet for facts to back me up, but i couldn't find any. bah.[/SIZE]

Golden Sabers have that nifty scalloped jacket that really tears stuff up. More and more people are moving to them, especially as an alternative for revolver shooters whose guns aren't +P rated
Elionwyr • Feb 15, 2004 11:26 pm
Originally posted by wolf
Again, no manufacturer's beauty shot available of a discontinued Gerber Mark I Tactical. It's usually regarded as a "boot knife" because of the relatively short blade. Blade length is 12cm, 21.5cm overall.


I lust after your boot knife.
:yum:
Troubleshooter • Feb 16, 2004 11:19 am
Originally posted by mrnoodle
I always found the Glocks to have a weird, almost twisty characteristic to them when fired.


That's what happens when you have a limp (dare I say it?)... noodle-like wristed grip.
zippyt • Feb 20, 2004 8:47 pm
TS said That's what happens when you have a limp (dare I say it?)... noodle-like wristed grip.


Thankyou for pointing that out TS !!!
My sister shot my .40 glock once , she was all scared that the recoil was going to hurt , she shot it limp risted , it didn't even cycle all the way . That was the first and only jam i have ever experenced . she tightned up her grip after that and ran thru 3 mags NO PROBLEM !!!

Golden sabers are fine bullets , not a thing wrong with them . I feel comfortable with my Hydro-Shocks . Thank you VERRY much !!!
lumberjim • Mar 6, 2004 10:20 am
Originally posted by sycamore


And guys don't dye their hair? Shit, I do...I have for almost 10 years.

Guess I should leave out the part about painting my toe nails and finger nails on occasion, eh?


uh huh:
richlevy • Mar 6, 2004 11:08 am
Originally posted by Sun_Sparkz
guys always look great with subtle blonde foils, or tips, rather than the whole head doused in peroxide.. IMO anyway. ;)


I think there's a law against using the term 'guys' in the same sentence with the phrase 'subtle blonde foils' or 'tips'.:rolleyes:
richlevy • Mar 6, 2004 11:12 am
Originally posted by Troubleshooter

And the knife is a hand made special from my uncle who made them from cross-cut saw blades. The blade is 12" long with a full tang, hardwood handle and brass riveted.
:rolleyes:


Wow, and I thought the zombies in "Ghosts of Mars" were the only ones who improvised weapons from tools.:p
wolf • Mar 6, 2004 11:21 am
Originally posted by richlevy


I think there's a law against using the term 'guys' in the same sentence with the phrase 'subtle blonde foils' or 'tips'.:rolleyes:


the law restricts you from using the term 'straight guys' in that context, except in California.

The gay boi at work has had the subtle blonde foils and tips at various times, and it does look quite hot.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 6, 2004 11:38 am
Originally posted by richlevy


Wow, and I thought the zombies in "Ghosts of Mars" were the only ones who improvised weapons from tools.:p
Haven't done any "time", huh Rich.;)