The continuing LUVBUGZ thread
Why befoul an IotD thread with personal crap? That's not fair to readers there because there are people who read there who don't read the rest of the Cellar. Let's do it here, where one can be more direct and personal. It's just us here.
Out with it then. LUVBUGZ: the good, the bad, the beautiful, the ugly. Let's discuss BUGZ in all ways. What do you like? What do you not like? What do you hate? What do you love?
I'll have to admit to being absent for a few days. Which IotD thread are we talking about?
Out of all the BS floating around here DagNEY is the only one to just come out and say she doesn't like me. Thank God someone can at least be honest about it and not try to cover up their real feelings with hidden innuendos. Thanks to you DagNEY, the feeling is mutual.
Now there you go again, Dear. You're saying everyone doesn't like you and is covering it up with innuendos. That's neither true or fair to "everyone". C'mon now, you don't want to be like the old man and dump on anyone you think
might be thinking ill of you, do you?
You have to be careful with retaliation because if you're wrong you look stupid to the other people, besides the one you're retaliating against.
You think you're being held to a tighter standard than others. Yes, you probably are, just because of history. If a cat claws you, don't you watch it closer for awhile after that?
As much as I respect Dagney's opinion, DON'T go AOL.:vomit: That's just disgusting.
Smile Baby, and the world smiles with you.:D
Oh...thanks Toad....give me something to play with AFTER I gave it up.
:pout:
Although I have a feeling, I'm not done yet.
Just do a search for everything posted by LB for the last two days.
From Bugz:
Now how the heck was I being mean to you Whit?????? Where's the "thick skin"?
But I was JOKING! Why is it everything I say pisses everyone off??? Couldn't you see the smilie??? Why can't I make the same jokes as everyone else?
Tee-hee.
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
You think you're being held to a tighter standard than others. Yes, you probably are, just because of history. If a cat claws you, don't you watch it closer for awhile after that?
Ah, but Bruce, in the World According to Bugz, she's never done ANYTHING wrong. We're just mean, evil, and randomly attacking her.
Oh yeah, and I'm a stalker.
Now now, Dagney, let's give Bugz her fair say first. UT appears to be looking for her to get specific about stuff, lets see what happens shall we?
Hey Juju, nothing new dude. Same stuff different day. You can pick it up here without feeling you missed anything, just a few pointless specifics that'll clear up quickly. You were mentioned once though, pregnant ad IOTD, appearantly having you on a thread makes it a party. Neat huh?
I agree with you Whit, but I also think it's a vent place for the rest of us who are sick of shovelling
It's not exactly the same! That's got different feet on it, and a different quality of leather... close though.
UT, I get the impression from the exclamation point at the end of the first sentence you were....snapping. Over reaction due to the same reason you started this thread?:confused:
Originally posted by Undertoad
Why befoul an IotD thread with personal crap? That's not fair to readers there because there are people who read there who don't read the rest of the Cellar. Let's do it here, where one can be more direct and personal. It's just us here.
Out with it then. LUVBUGZ: the good, the bad, the beautiful, the ugly. Let's discuss BUGZ in all ways. What do you like? What do you not like? What do you hate? What do you love?
Sorry UT, I wasn't thinking about the casual visitor or possibly new recruits that come by way of the IotD thread. BTY, that's how I got here in the first place. It was the Purple Polar Bear a friend e-mailed to me. I had never visited a forum before that and didn't really grasp the idea that it is like a whole little universe in and of itself. Fortunately for me, apparently unfortunately for you and the rest of the Cellar heavy hitters, the first person I talked to was bgmb, I think that's right, I call her "B". I sent her a PM asking how to make a post and she graciously helped me out. In my naivete I jumped in head first, or maybe head-up-ass first, and started posting away, not realizing that not everybody in the Cellar would be as friendly or welcoming. I saw people basing on each other left and right and thought WOW, I do that pretty good, I'll definitely fit in here. Boy, was I ever wrong about that. Next I see Dave giving Anne a huge blast of shit in the Digital Airbrushing thread. He went off like a bull with a cattle prod to his nuts. I personally thought he went a little overboard, but he has a right to his opinion. Geez, I thought, you can cuss and everything here and no one really gives a big happy crap, it just makes for an entertaining flamefest. Boy was I ever wrong on that one too. Almost from the minute I opened my big ass mouth I've been hit upside the head everywhich way possible. I could accept that if it was in good jest, but for the most part it's not. Many people around here are actually pretty damn mean, and if it weren't for the good ones I'd just leave and let you guys enjoy the thrill of victory whilst I ran away with my tail tucked between my legs and endured the agony of defeat all by my lonesome. I'm perfectly fine with people not liking me or disagreeing with me, but we should still be able to carry on a perfectly civilized discussion/debate in an adult manner. Not everybody likes everybody else, that's life. As I've said before at least DagNEY can come out and say it to my face rather than beat around the bush. That I can deal with even if she chooses not to deal with me. At least we both know where we stand with each other. I can even accept that not every comment made to me is a direct attack, but it is rather difficult to take advice from somebody who continues to do so while ripping my head off and shitting down what used to be my throat (I'm NOT refering to your earlier advice in the Abdomen thread). I heard what you said there and was going to try and heed it, before you posted again asking me not to post in any of your threads. Damn UT, am I really that despicable of a person that you don't even want to see my name in the same thread as your's? I never knew you felt this way. See what I mean about people just coming out and saying what's on their minds. I still don't really see what I did to piss you off to the point of basically telling me to take a hike. I have tried over and over and over to explain in detail to people here how I have taken their comments, why I feel the way I do and still no one can admit that they were in the least bit partially to blame for the their part in the misunderstanding or whatever you want to call it. Well, I can remember one time Whit fessed up he was a "little" condesending, but before I could thank him for realizing why I took offense, he rolled out another stink bomb and left it at my feet. I really don't know what I can do or not do to fit in around here. I guess I just don't, period. I've tried to be like one of the gang, I've tried to be funny, I've been a bitch, I've tried it all and still the littlest thing can set off a torrent of 'liquid feces'. I could go on and on, but I'm sure you've lost interest after the first couple of sentences. :(
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
Now there you go again, Dear. You're saying everyone doesn't like you and is covering it up with innuendos. That's neither true or fair to "everyone". C'mon now, you don't want to be like the old man and dump on anyone you think might be thinking ill of you, do you?
You have to be careful with retaliation because if you're wrong you look stupid to the other people, besides the one you're retaliating against.
You think you're being held to a tighter standard than others. Yes, you probably are, just because of history. If a cat claws you, don't you watch it closer for awhile after that?
As much as I respect Dagney's opinion, DON'T go AOL.:vomit: That's just disgusting.
Smile Baby, and the world smiles with you.:D
See, everybody. Bruce is actually giving me helpful advice without shitting it out his ass and smearing it in my face. Although he's done that too in a more private setting;) . But I didn't hold it against him when he did because I know Bruce is really trying to help me out and not just flinging shit to fuel the flamefest. Sure it hurt a little bit, no one likes to be told they're an asshole when all the joking and sarcasm is set aside for a moment, but I thought about what he said to me and tried to change for the better. Anyhow, Bruce, I thank you for your continued support (or deflea-ing) as you like to call it.:) :) :)
Originally posted by Dagney
I agree with you Whit, but I also think it's a vent place for the rest of us who are sick of shovelling
DagNEY, I thought we agreed that neither of us like one another and that you've said your peace, ripped me one last good one for the road in the Pregnant Ad IotD, and decided to ignore me from now on. Granted you are free to go where you wish and comment on any post you wish, but I wondering why you are here??? There are plenty of your buddies here willing and able to continue where you left off. I thought at least I wouldn't have to worry about you anymore. We aired our stinking laundry, let that be the end of it. No one is asking you to shovel anything so why is the shovel still in your hand:confused: :confused: :confused:
LB, if you review the threads I believe that you'll find that I've offered you nothing but helpful advice in a calm way and you took a big huge dump all over me for it.
I particularly enjoyed how you turned up to 11 to respond to my post suggesting you turn down to 4. It was a really supreme ironic twist.
You haven't really read a word I've said, because you are emotionally manic. You thrive on attention, and it really doesn't matter how you get it. You are absolutely desperate for human contact, and you don't know exactly how to go about getting it.
You will read this as me putting you down. But I am not; I am being your opposite. I am coldly, unemotionally stating facts.
There may be an awesome human being behind this attention-seeking emotional mania. But we can't see it, and won't make contact with it, because the mania gets in the way.
Originally posted by Whit
But I was JOKING! Why is it everything I say pisses everyone off??? Couldn't you see the smilie??? Why can't I make the same jokes as everyone else?
Tee-hee.
Shit Whit, hey that rhymes (I've always wanted to call you Nit Whit, but given my inability to convey a funny or sarcastic remark, I've fought the urge:p , but look I finally managed to slip it in a post:eek: ), anyhoo, stop poking little funnies at me when you know damn good and well I can't respond with my own little tidbits. You're not helping, just teasing now. Like waving a juicy steak in front of a pitbull chained to a tree. Free me from my chains Whit to run unabashed through the Cellar in all it's glee and jovialness (is that a word?, or maybe, just maybe I misspelled it, but of course you wouldn't be so rude as to correct my spelling....that would deifintely be an unforgivable PERSONAL ATTACK that I would have to live with for the rest of my wretched, flea ridden life):p :p :p :p :p
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
UT, I get the impression from the exclamation point at the end of the first sentence you were....snapping. Over reaction due to the same reason you started this thread?:confused:
That's what I got out of it too, Bruce. Hence the apology, but apologies don't fly around here, at least mine don't seem too. If you notice also the time of my original chair post it was way before any shit flinging in the Prego Ad IotD. I took UT's response as a bit snippy due to the shit going on in the other thread. I ask again...where is the "thick skin" everyone claims is a necessity for survival in the Cellar?
Originally posted by Undertoad
LB, if you review the threads I believe that you'll find that I've offered you nothing but helpful advice in a calm way and you took a big huge dump all over me for it.
I particularly enjoyed how you turned up to 11 to respond to my post suggesting you turn down to 4. It was a really supreme ironic twist.
You haven't really read a word I've said, because you are emotionally manic. You thrive on attention, and it really doesn't matter how you get it. You are absolutely desperate for human contact, and you don't know exactly how to go about getting it.
You will read this as me putting you down. But I am not; I am being your opposite. I am coldly, unemotionally stating facts.
There may be an awesome human being behind this attention-seeking emotional mania. But we can't see it, and won't make contact with it, because the mania gets in the way.
UT, I never said that you have done anything but offer cold, unemotional helpful advice. I don't really see how I took a big huge dump on you, personally. I have read every word you have typed and I am definitely listening. Are you a psychologist? I think you may be right about the emotionally manic thing. And BTY, I am reading your post as putting me down and I feel like shit as I sit here reading it, but I'm reading nonetheless. I realize that maybe people observing me, who don't know me, might be able to offer me some personal insight that people who know me and hate me won't. Maybe I should check into a looney bin and get to the bottom of my deep seeded issues that you can see flaming away at my shallow surface. You're right about the attention thing too. Nobody gives a rat's ass about me and my pitiful little life, but I came to the Cellar hoping to find some new friends through laughter, not flamefests. Juju says I like to play the victim role. He's the second person I've come across in my life that has said that to me. I blew off the first guy (NOT literally, Bruce, FYI;))as an asshole (he really was one too, but that's besides the point), but maybe there is something to it if Juju says it too (I mean come on everybody here knows Juju's not an asshole;), sorry Juju something in me couldn't resist that jab, it's a joke, buddy ol' pal o' mine, no need to splice me open for that one, my guts are already oozing onto the Cellar floor). Sorry, I jumped the track there. Anyhow, playing right into my emotionally manic victimized by the world view of things, I don't think you would find an awesome human being behind my psychotic facade, because it's not a facade. I've been depressed (not manic) ever since I can remember and up until now I've managed to pass myself off as just a bitch with a 'tude and got by in life by being the sarcastic dumb-ass that could make you laugh your ass off if you had a clue as to what I was babbling about. Apparently, I can't even do that well anymore. So what do you suggest UT? Take a flying leap off a tall building or (Whit this one's for you;)) fall to my death on a collapsing bridge with a bunch of Indonesian kids? At least that would be tragic for the little booger picking rug rats.
Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
I realize that maybe people observing me, who don't know me, might be able to offer me some personal insight that people who know me and hate me won't.
You'll find that even the folks you think 'hate' you have something worthwhile to add.
This is a very telling sentence. We have. We've tried. And you've slapped the lot of us in the face.
More than once.
But you refuse to listen, or lash out and twist words. Repeatedly
Which is why you tend to find yourself on the wrong side of the shitstorm.
I've tried to be like one of the gang, I've tried to be funny, I've been a bitch, I've tried it all and still the littlest thing can set off a torrent of 'liquid feces'. I could go on and on, but I'm sure you've lost interest after the first couple of sentences.
Have you tried being normal? No wait..normal isn't what I mean because I don't know what normal means. You say you've tried being this and tried being that why not just try being you? It's really a lot easier.
I guess we all sort of take on a "web persona" but the closer it is to your offline persona the easier it is to communicate what you're really thinking and that's what most people are interested in hearing. Everyone is posting reality as they see it which is called opinion. If you disagree then by all means say so but "eat shit and die" isn't necessary to convey any position.
up until now I've managed to pass myself off as just a bitch with a 'tude and got by in life by being the sarcastic dumb-ass that could make you laugh your ass off if you had a clue as to what I was babbling about. Apparently, I can't even do that well anymore.
If that's the face you wish to show the world, fine, but it doesn't work very well in print unless you're a really, really good writer. Your insecurities are your business. We all have them. But never use them as an excuse or as a badge as it makes others uncomfortable and makes you vulnerable, IMO.
I guess adding IMO is really silly because everything I post is nothing more.:D
What do I suggest: as it came down to with Ciera, therapy.
If things really are as you say they are, it would do you a world of good. Have you considered it?
I'm just going to speculate here, as I realize I don't really know you.
I think that you're looking for strength in other people. That doesn't work. The foundation of your ego has to come from within. Surrounding yourself with a network of supportive friends can be very helpful, but it is not a foundation. Trying to use it as one just doesn't work. You have to believe in yourself.
It's easy to spot people who have self-confidence, because when someone insults or criticizes them, they take the comment, evaluate it, and reject it, leaving no scar on their inner self. They just don't take it personally. They say, "No, that's not me", and move on.
But if you don't believe in yourself, your self worth is left to the whims of others. Unfortunately, that can be pretty unpredictable.
Also, when your posts get a little long, it might help your readers if you break your thoughts up into paragraphs.
A lot of interesting things said here... I'm going to ignore it all and do my own thing.
Hi Bugz. I've never been sure why I seem to upset you, but I'm going to give an honest shot at straightening things out. Noteworthy only because my habit is to simply make fun of the people that don't like me. So here goes.
From Bugz:
I'm perfectly fine with people not liking me or disagreeing with me, but we should still be able to carry on a perfectly civilized discussion/debate in an adult manner.
Ya know Bugz, the first time we had a problem I thought this was what we were doing. We were clearly in disagreement but I found your point of view intriging and was looking to know more of it. Then you got upset. I'll say again, that was never my intention though you clearly believed it was.
I have tried over and over and over to explain in detail to people here how I have taken their comments, why I feel the way I do and still no one can admit that they were in the least bit partially to blame for the their part in the misunderstanding or whatever you want to call it.
Most people around here don't really care about apologies. At least not that I've noticed. Usually, we clear things up and move on or leave it messy and don't take it to another thread. Leave the mess where it lays and it'll move off the board in time.
You're not helping, just teasing now.
Actually I was teasing. In a friendly way, or at least that was how it was meant. I think you almost took it that way, so we must be making some headway. Whoo-hoo!
of course you wouldn't be so rude as to correct my spelling....
Nope, not me, never. Got a chuckle out of the rest of this actually. I assume it was meant as a joke, if it was we're getting somewhere.
(Whit this one's for you) fall to my death on a collapsing bridge with a bunch of Indonesian kids?
Another laugh from me here. Interestingly, this whole bit was one of your best posts, IMO at least. You just sound more real and less, well less like a victim towards the end here. I like it.
Now on to the fair time portion of our program. You've been asking about everyone else's "thick skin" we've got it. I openly admit I've blatantly made fun of you. I do that to anyone that I think isn't listening, for my own amusement. I've accused you of things and given examples of what I meant. You, in turn, made accusations that you didn't back up even when I asked you to. Sounds like I really dislike you right? Nope, nice thick skin here. I'm good. Ready to be all friendly and cool. It's up to you girl-chic. (Take the girl thing as a jest and we're golden)
I think we'll continue to disagree on many subjects but who cares? Accept that I have no interest in causing you pain and it should lead to many worthwhile discussions. So what's it going to be?
[sarcasm] Look, if everyone is gonna be all reasonable and touchy-feely, I'm gonna have to go get a hanky.
What's the Cellar coming to when people can't just kick the shit out of each other and then walk away shaking their oh-so-superior heads? [/sarcasm]
I wonder if maybe 'thick skin' is the wrong term for what we need to have to be relatively functional here on the Cellar. Maybe it is more like 'high selectivity'. If someone is being a dick, you can usually tell that they are a dick (need I name handles, here?), and if they are a dick, therefore it follows that their criticism/barbs/insults/opinions aren't really worth getting upset over. I know it is easier said than done, but then I've had a lot of practice on the 'Net over the years learning just that. I have found that I'm a much happier person since mostly learning that lesson.
Juju is right...believe in yourself first and always. Then, when someone nails you, you know it isn't valid, and you don't react badly.
Maybe I should check into a looney bin and get to the bottom of my deep seeded issues that you can see flaming away at my shallow surface. You're right about the attention thing too. Nobody gives a rat's ass about me and my pitiful little life, but I came to the Cellar hoping to find some new friends through laughter, not flamefests.
Perhaps as a way to generate outside caretaker pity, you beat yourself up harder than anyone here could ever do. You're the only one who can stop that, and the only one who can take care. So therapy sounds like a good idea, not looney at all. Before we give our rats' asses, you gotta be solid in yours.
Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
Next I see Dave giving Anne a huge blast of shit in the Digital Airbrushing thread. He went off like a bull with a cattle prod to his nuts. Almost from the minute I opened my big ass mouth I've been hit upside the head everywhich way possible.
Many people around here are actually pretty damn mean
Lord! I've missed it around here.
LB--- if no one jumps you out of the gate here, yer doing something wrong.
And yeah..they are mean. Ain't it Grand?
Jimmy Stewart, in Harvey, said he'd tried being smart and he'd tried being nice..and nice was better.
The Cellarites just disagree.... :)
Anyone who quotes Elwood P. Dowd is alright by me! :thumb:
[COLOR=purple]Bruce, I guess I tried being this and being that because the "normal" me wasn't working in the first place.
You really have a problem with the "eat shit and die" thing. Sorry it offends you, but I've always kinda liked that one as a last ditch effort to tell someone I really don't like them and if they cannot listen to my view of something in the same way I have listened to their view, then they should shut the "F" up and go on about their way. I do believe that the only person I have directed that to is Quzah and I feel pretty confident that he/she could care less what I say or feel about him/her.
You seem to be right about me not being able to convey my personality very well in written form. My personality tends to piss people off in person too, unless they know me and can tell when I'm joking and when I'm serious. I try to use the smilies to let people know I'm razzing them, but maybe they aren't even looking at them and taking my words at face value, in which case I can see where the misunderstanding or offense is taken. I don't know any other way of conveying my humor, I have actually written out in words a disclaimer and people still twist what I'm trying to say and turn it into something it's not.[/COLOR]
The problem I have with "eat shit and die" is that it does nothing to make your point, it's just playground name calling and puts every reader on notice that you can't sustain an intelligent conversation and back up your position with facts. "ESaD" does nothing but tell the reader that you quit, you lose.
Calling someone an idiot could be construed as "you're and idiot therefore my position comes from a more intelligent source". It's a stretch but possible. The former does nothing.
I have actually written out in words a disclaimer and people still twist what I'm trying to say and turn it into something it's not.
We can't twist what you're trying to say because you're the only one that knows what that is. The reader only knows what you wrote. If there's more than one way to interpret what's written, the reader tries to put it in the context of what's come before and then who wrote it. That's the rub, as I said before you probably are being held to a higher standard because of what's transpired. But you have to be doubly sure what you write is what you're thinking so you don't end up defending something you didn't mean or feeling you're being abused because the reader didn't understand what you meant.
Written communication is much more difficult because if you peruse a dictionary most words have multiple meanings and there's no facial or tonal clues.
Also, sniping someone puts everyone else on notice that they could be next. That makes an uncomfortable atmosphere for some and definitely dissuades lurkers from wanting to contribute.
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
The problem I have with "eat shit and die" is that it does nothing to make your point <snip!>
Also, Emily Post says that "Consume feces and expire" is much more socially acceptable.
I believe the best I've read yet was from vsp - "Consume feces and cease to metabolize"
Originally posted by Elspode
Anyone who quotes Elwood P. Dowd is alright by me! :thumb:
....but if you call me, call me at this number.....
Originally posted by Undertoad
What do I suggest: as it came down to with Ciera, therapy.
If things really are as you say they are, it would do you a world of good. Have you considered it?
[color=purple]I think Ciera needed a bit more than therapy, and I don't think I've reached her level of mental disability, but yes, I have thought about therapy. Now I know this is going to sound very Ciera Myst-ish, but without health ins. therapy is difficult to afford. I know about all the so called "no-cost, low-cost" crap out there, but suffice it to say you get what you pay for. I know you are just trying to help, but don't bother giving me the names to all these great, wonderful self-help, self-realization books. I am fully aware of the "issues" I have, but even if those "issues" were resolved tomorrow I would still have the same personality as I do today, although I would be a bit more chipper about things.[/color]
Originally posted by juju
I'm just going to speculate here, as I realize I don't really know you.
I think that you're looking for strength in other people. That doesn't work. The foundation of your ego has to come from within. Surrounding yourself with a network of supportive friends can be very helpful, but it is not a foundation. Trying to use it as one just doesn't work. You have to believe in yourself.
It's easy to spot people who have self-confidence, because when someone insults or criticizes them, they take the comment, evaluate it, and reject it, leaving no scar on their inner self. They just don't take it personally. They say, "No, that's not me", and move on.
But if you don't believe in yourself, your self worth is left to the whims of others. Unfortunately, that can be pretty unpredictable.
Also, when your posts get a little long, it might help your readers if you break your thoughts up into paragraphs.
[color=purple]Thank You Juju. I believe your speculation is pretty much right on here. And, I'll try to remember the paragraphs.:)[/color]
[color=purple]Whit, the post I made in this thread and all references to you in the posts I've made here were ment to be funny as I was hinting at other stuff we've talked about in outher threads. I'm glad you finally saw that I was joking and read them as such. I think our "tiff" in the Collapsing Bridge deal was me being a little on edge and defensive due to the Big Pig shit w/ Quzah. I'm also glad you can admit to making fun of me which further added to my defensiveness in the past. As far as I'm concerened we're passed that and I have no problem with you and agree the we will undoubtedly disagree in the future, but like you said "who cares", it doesn't mean that we can't argue as adults. Thanks for the olive branch, I accept:) [/color]
Originally posted by Elspode
[sarcasm] Look, if everyone is gonna be all reasonable and touchy-feely, I'm gonna have to go get a hanky.
What's the Cellar coming to when people can't just kick the shit out of each other and then walk away shaking their oh-so-superior heads? [/sarcasm]
I wonder if maybe 'thick skin' is the wrong term for what we need to have to be relatively functional here on the Cellar. Maybe it is more like 'high selectivity'. If someone is being a dick, you can usually tell that they are a dick (need I name handles, here?), and if they are a dick, therefore it follows that their criticism/barbs/insults/opinions aren't really worth getting upset over. I know it is easier said than done, but then I've had a lot of practice on the 'Net over the years learning just that. I have found that I'm a much happier person since mostly learning that lesson.
Juju is right...believe in yourself first and always. Then, when someone nails you, you know it isn't valid, and you don't react badly.
[color=purple]Thanks Els, for your input in this thread. I'm with ya and I'll try being a bit more "selective" in deciding what to take personally and what not too and base it a little more on who's doing the insulting before I take offense.:) [/color]
LB, (your response to me) that's all bullshit, and you know it. Deeply within yourself, you know that if you wanted to, you could get the books, read them, and follow them. And you know that if you wanted to, you could pay attention to yourself and others' reaction to you, and over time become a more personable you. And that, if you believed in yourself, your personality would reflect that and be much different to start.
The reason I know you know, is that you didn't give a real reason why you can't do it. Faced with the question, you just turned away and gave some bullshit answer that you yourself don't believe.
If someone told you they would give you a gift of 10 million dollars if only you made changes in your life, fixed the "issues", you'd probably make the changes, because there would be this immense motivation to do it. It would be hard to do. It would take a while. But you'd do it.
Maybe you'd read books. Maybe you'd find places on the net that are more helpful than we can be. Maybe you'd go to low-cost therapists and switch until you find one that does work. Maybe you'd focus your mind and change out of sheer will. Maybe you'd learn the name of what the "issues" are and watch Dr. Phil when he covers it as a topic.
You'd do it. So... what was your excuse again?
Originally posted by warch
Perhaps as a way to generate outside caretaker pity, you beat yourself up harder than anyone here could ever do. You're the only one who can stop that, and the only one who can take care. So therapy sounds like a good idea, not looney at all. Before we give our rats' asses, you gotta be solid in yours.
[color=purple]Warch, thanks for the input. I believe you are right about me beating myself up worse than anyone else can, but sometimes it still feels like a few Cellarites have done a pretty damn good job at kicking my ass whether I needed it or not.
I don't mean to imply that anyone who goes to or needs therapy is looney, I was getting a little carried away there. In fact I do go see someone about once a month, but since I don't make a lot of money I go through a county program which doesn't really offer one on one counseling with a therapist which I think would actually benefit me. I know what my "issues" are, but it is very difficult to overcome them without a good support network. My parents are a huge part of my problem so I can't get support from them and I have no real friends that I could talk to and as I stated in my post to UT I don't have the money to pay someone to listen to my problems. So, in a nut shell, I just go on trying to be better, but never really getting anywhere. I'm not quite sure what the hell I was thinking when I thought things might be different with a bunch of strangers in a forum[/color]:confused:
Originally posted by Undertoad
LB, (your response to me) that's all bullshit, and you know it. Deeply within yourself, you know that if you wanted to, you could get the books, read them, and follow them. And you know that [b]if you wanted to, you could pay attention to yourself and others' reaction to you, and over time become a more personable you. And that, if you believed in yourself, your personality would reflect that and be much different to start.
The reason I know you know, is that you didn't give a real reason why you can't do it. Faced with the question, you just turned away and gave some bullshit answer that you yourself don't believe.
If someone told you they would give you a gift of 10 million dollars if only you made changes in your life, fixed the "issues", you'd probably make the changes, because there would be this immense motivation to do it. It would be hard to do. It would take a while. But you'd do it.
Maybe you'd read books. Maybe you'd find places on the net that are more helpful than we can be. Maybe you'd go to low-cost therapists and switch until you find one that does work. Maybe you'd focus your mind and change out of sheer will. Maybe you'd learn the name of what the "issues" are and watch Dr. Phil when he covers it as a topic.
You'd do it. So... what was your excuse again?
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[color=purple]You're probably right UT. If I REALLY wanted to I could do all that. I admit to lacking in motivation. That's why I'm such a lard ass too. Just can't get motivated to change my diet and exercise. If someone offered me 10 million to change I would definitely try because with the money I wouldn't have to work to pay the bills and would have all the time in the world to devote to bettering myself. Unfortunately, I'm currently not in that position. I've tried reading some of those books and they are like all talk and no action. They start using graphs to show your inner/outer self, compartmentalize behavior and crap, I get lost trying to figure out what their point is with all this. It dosen't help me one damn bit with my "issues". BTY, I know what the names of my "issues" are I just don't feel like sharing them with you. As far as Dr. Phil goes, I think he is an idiot. He rode Oprah's coat tails to get where he is today and I don't pay much attention to him. Yes, I've listened to parts of his show, but I just find him irritating.
I didn't come to the Cellar to get cheap therapy, but to find new people to talk with. I'm sorry I don't fit into your mold of the perfect Cellarite, I'm just me (as messed up as that may be). Like I said before if I could solve my "issues" today, I'd still basically be the same person. I would have a better outlook on life in general, but that wouldn't change the life experiences I've had and how those experiences have made me what I am today.[/color]
BUGZ, save your pennies and the next time you get vacation come East. We'll get everybody together and have a huge pillow fight. Then everyone will feel better.:D
Try to be an adult and work on your life. No one else will. I would suggest that it may be more rewarding or valuable to you than the 10 mil.
Hi Bugz, I see you called yourself an idiot in the 'Serious' thread in Philosophy.
Stop that. You're not helping yourself like that. When my boy started calling himself names like 'stupid' and 'idiot' I went out and bought him an IQ test. Made him take it in the middle of summer too. He immediately stopped his self-name calling and is much happier for it.
My points are that a: you are not stupid saying it just makes you feel that way and b: this is exactly the kind of thing that draws attacks. It's like pouring blood in the water around sharks. It comes off as attention seeking, which seems to really annoy certain people around here.
Buck up and show some pride. Heck personally I prefer down right arrogance but whatever works for you.
By the by, I once heard a comedian talking about the "luck of the Irish." He said the Irish are the most unlucky people on earth, even their potatoes went bad. But when an Irishman steps in a pile of dog crap he says, "Lucky I wasn't wearin' me good shoes."
It's an attitude. Things could always be worse and things can always get better, whether they do or not is irrelevant. See the bright side by choice, it's your choice to make.
Oh yeah, the boy scored a 129 on the IQ test. Clearly, he was technicaly wrong in calling himself stupid. I'm satisfied with that.
Hey Whit,
I was half joking w/ Dave in the Serious thread. I was just wondering if it would make him feel any better if I caved and agreed with his view of me. Quess I'm still tryin' things out to smooth over the ruffled feathers around here. I wasn't using it as an attention seeking ploy, just giving him something to play with. I'm sure you're correct in saying others will interpret it as attention seeking though. Thanks for the input once again, just for kicks maybe I should take an IQ test to see where I actually stand in that category. Plus, then I'd have "PROOF" I wasn't stupid, assuming of course that's what the test showed;) .
Whit: Look son, the test shows you're two standard deviations above normal!
Son of Whit: Great, all I ever wanted to be was normal.
i think forrest said it best: "stupid is as stupid does". anyway, everyone has issues, no matter how big or small. for instance my divorce was final last week and i'm trying to find a new roommate, i hate where i work.....etc.... i could go on. a whole lot further. the cellar, to me, is a place where people get together and share their views on life. some people don't get along, look at bush and hussein. personally, i don't know any strangers. i think it's a plus but it could also be a fault, whatever. it doesn't matter to anyone but me. i'm haooy and that's what counts. it doesn't bother me if someone doesn't like me, hey, that's life. big deal. anyway, that's my 2 cents worth.
Hey, congrats Jinx. Maybe a little anti-climactical and sometimes reflection and mixed emotion but an important milestone anyway.:beer:
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
Hey, congrats Jinx. Maybe a little anti-climactical and sometimes reflection and mixed emotion but an important milestone anyway.:beer:
i call'em like i see'um and thx...:beer: :thumb:
Where have you been? Congrats on the big "D", free at last, free at last. Assuming that you're glad it's over, that is:confused: . How's the kid taking it, or is he too small to realize what's going on? I guess this is a little off-thread, but hey it is MY thread, so I guess I can say what I want;) . I've been waiting on that "pixel magic" piece on my little Melvin. How's that coming along, or did you give up?
Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
Where have you been? Congrats on the big "D", free at last, free at last. Assuming that you're glad it's over, that is:confused: . How's the kid taking it, or is he too small to realize what's going on? I guess this is a little off-thread, but hey it is MY thread, so I guess I can say what I want;) . I've been waiting on that "pixel magic" piece on my little Melvin. How's that coming along, or did you give up?
been well thx, haven't given up on melvin, just on the back burner for now. yeah, t's a little too young to undrstand the situation however my ex-wife (wow that was weird) and i split up a year ago november so he doesn't know any different. it's cool that way....sux when he wants to stay though when it's time for me to take him to the ex's....
Frankly anyone that posts a verbal dumb as long as LUVBUGZ first post in this thread without paragraphs (I've dumped some utter crap on these boards over time but at least they had paragraphs seperating the typo-ridden garbage) deserves some kind of painful absolution of their sins but hey i'm just a gouchy lurker these days =)
Hey LB, we haven't directly crossed paths yet. I haven't piped up during any of the insult-slinging because my interest in the Cellar is mostly intellectual and philosophical (hence my low post count... hah!). I don't really get involved in the exchanges of nastiness, unless it affects me personally.
There are relatively few regular posters here at the Cellar, which to me is excellent-- it prevents one's thoughts from being lost in the torrent-- but that also means that somebody who just walks in the door and chimes in their opinion will be highly scrutinized. If you're perceived as intelligent, amiable, funny, insightful, or any combination of the above, you're in, and you can get away with just about anything. If you're uninteresting, you'll be ignored as background noise. If you're abrasive, anal-retentive, or dumb, you'll go downhill fast.
You walked in the door, and your first noticable comments were anal-retentive. When challenged, you became abrasive. This behavior persisted for awhile until you realized your errors, but by then you had made so much backward progress that you're now mired. Some people, over time, will forget about that early crap and you'll be welcome here. Some people will never overcome their original low opinion of you, whether it is justified or not.
My advice.... Sighing and self-deprecation will not help you. Trying to explain why you acted the way you did will do little, if anything, to help you... and may in fact make matters worse by appearing to be fishing for sympathy. Move on... abandon this thread. Participate in the discussions and show everybody that you're a worthwhile contributor, which you CAN be if you choose to, or skulk away. Understand and accept that some people here will never like you. Also realize that playful jabs at such people will be met with resentment. And it's Ok to dislike them back.
That's it.
He's good.
Nail<---banging tool--->Head
YOu guys are a bunch of jerks! I hate you all!
<sulking in corner>
[friendly]Your inability to appropriately make use of the Shift key or to proof your own text before submission must really endear you to "the lizzzadies" and to your editor, breakingnews. [/sarcasm]
Originally posted by wolf
He's good.
Nail<---banging tool--->Head
He sure is.
Just bringing this back up to the main page on standard viewing options. With Bugz back I think we'll need this thread back.
Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
color=purple]Whit, the post I made in this thread and all references to you in the posts I've made here were ment to be funny as I was hinting at other stuff we've talked about in outher threads. I'm glad you finally saw that I was joking and read them as such. I think our "tiff" in the Collapsing Bridge deal was me being a little on edge and defensive due to the Big Pig shit w/ Quzah. I'm also glad you can admit to making fun of me which further added to my defensiveness in the past. As far as I'm concerened we're passed that and I have no problem with you and agree the we will undoubtedly disagree in the future, but like you said "who cares", it doesn't mean that we can't argue as adults. Thanks for the olive branch, I accept:) [/color]
Can I just refer you to this in regards to you getting all over FNF's ass about spelling and grammar?
Nobody likes a hypocrite dear.
[COLOR=indigo]Can we just try to let go of the old stuff?
Everyone deserves a fresh start. Bugz has been gone for awhile, and one of her major attackers is gone now, so can we just start over? [/COLOR]
Originally posted by OnyxCougar
[COLOR=indigo]Can we just try to let go of the old stuff?
Everyone deserves a fresh start. Bugz has been gone for awhile, and one of her major attackers is gone now, so can we just start over? [/COLOR]
Has LUVBUGZ hired you as a PR person?
Not a bad move, your posts are somewhat more platable than hers and you're nowhere near her score on the ignorance scale.
But you know it's odd that you say "start over", cause I think she is trying to "start over" the same old shit by comparing me to dave and all. Great start I say, 5 stars to the tard.
Isn't it ironic that you're asking for a stop to the "attacks on LUVBUGS" in the "continuing LUVBUGZ" thread? That got a few giggles out of me...
Originally posted by OnyxCougar
[COLOR=indigo]Can we just try to let go of the old stuff?
Everyone deserves a fresh start. Bugz has been gone for awhile, and one of her major attackers is gone now, so can we just start over? [/COLOR]
Well Onyx -
this isn't old stuff, I never replied to a LUVBUGZ post ever. I like FNF a lot, and just yesterday, she started a whole load of shit with him, and I just wanted to point out that one of her major arguments was bullshit. I am trying not to get into it with any more childish retards, or else I would be glad to explain why I am not a fan of BUGZ - if not from her last incarnation, then from what just got posted in the last few days by her.
Originally posted by insoluble
Well Onyx -
this isn't old stuff, I never replied to a LUVBUGZ post ever. I like FNF a lot, and just yesterday, she started a whole load of shit with him, and I just wanted to point out that one of her major arguments was bullshit. I am trying not to get into it with any more childish retards, or else I would be glad to explain why I am not a fan of BUGZ - if not from her last incarnation, then from what just got posted in the last few days by her.
So, insoluble, has NFN hired you as his PR person? Big mistake, no PR efforts in the world could make that asshole any less revolting. If you care to "reread" the recent flamefest "initiated" by Wolf and your buddy FNF you might catch on to the FACT that I was simply giving Pete my condolences on his loss of this pet, which BTW was what that thread was about. It was the following posts made by others which were inflammatory towards me. So, as far as Cellar retards go, you're definitely high on the list, right next to your bestest buddy FNF. Enjoy the glory, fool.
LUVBUGZ, do you always just troll? I mean really. Screw ignoring you...screw not cluttering this board.
Here is the PM sent to you in response to your post in the Strawbery thread:
Jumping on your pathetic ass...
I jumped on your ass not for no reason but for the following:
quote:
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I don't know shit about MGT except that it's a stupid card game. All those dumb games are stupid.
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I stated this in my reply to you. You KNEW why you were being attacked. Yet you play the innocent bystander card and say "I made one post referring to this thread and out of nowhere there's Wolf and FNF jumping on my ass for no good reason."
You filthy liar.
You rant about "free choice", as if we put a gun to your empty head and forced you to use black. It was just pointed out that the color choice made your worthless drivel even harder to understand. You may use your idiotic "sea-green" and I may get on your ass about it. That’s what freedom is about. Could you at least not be ignorant about what freedom really is all about?
This is sent as a PM to cut down on the worthless clutter on the boards. (Your sea-green drivel is enough as is)
__________________
I read all about your secrets at : Grouphug.us
Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
So, insoluble, has NFN hired you as his PR person? Big mistake, no PR efforts in the world could make that asshole any less revolting. If you care to "reread" the recent flamefest "initiated" by Wolf and your buddy FNF you might catch on to the FACT that I was simply giving Pete my condolences on his loss of this pet, which BTW was what that thread was about. It was the following posts made by others which were inflammatory towards me. So, as far as Cellar retards go, you're definitely high on the list, right next to your bestest buddy FNF. Enjoy the glory, fool.
Fist of all, it's FNF. Is that too tough for your one brain cell to handle? Well you can call me File if having two of the same letter in a word is too confusing for you.
I did NOT initiate the flame fest. You said you were a good MTG dueler. I used to play MTG up until about a year ago and thought you still played. I wanted to voice my reason for quitting the game and wanted to see if you'd agree. Instead you said:
I don't know shit about MGT except that it's a stupid card game. All those dumb games are stupid.
Admit it, you initiated it by starting to make broad generalizations on all card games. I told you that it was ignorant, you said you liked being ignorant..... what did you expect?
I've posted this at least 3 times so far but you still don't get it. You're still the one being attacked by the cellar retards for no reason. How long IS the list of 'cellar retards' anyway? I bet in your mind it's the vast majority of the member list.
Please tell me, what's so revolting about me. No really, please. I'm dying to hear what you think.
Oh and it's "best" not bestest.
Originally posted by LUVBUGZ here
Then as more posts are made others feel compelled to jump on the band wagon, ie. Dagney, Whit, and Juju. You may also note that I gave Juju a compliment on his new baby which was completely ignored and he continued to flame me for my "free choice" to use sea-green text.
In your mind, play this out to its logical conclusion. It's one thing if OnxyCougar does it. It's annoying, but less so. But if you start doing it too, then EVERYONE is going to start doing it. Imagine if in every thread, everyone posted their messages in a different color. That is just the scenario I'm trying to avoid. That, and the contrast issue.
I don't mean to be mean, but I really, really hate it. Is there a way for me to be nice and still express my distaste? I want everyone to like me, but I must also remain true to myself.
Also, to apologize to me for posting green text <i>in green text</i> is an insult.
Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
Oh, and thanks for not obsessively overreacting to my choice of text color. Once again the friendly Cellarites have so graciously pointed out that it's NOT a free country after all.
You are clearly not sorry and think my request is completely ridiculous. But because you want to get along, you humor me by saying "I'm sorry". Don't insult me and then tell me I'm the one that's flaming you.
Originally posted by FileNotFound
... How long IS the list of 'cellar retards' anyway? ...
At this point I believe that list includes everyone on The Cellar except LUVBUGZ and xoxoxoBruce (but only because she wants a majority of his stuff).
Oh and it's "best" not bestest.
Have I mentioned, tsovaritch, that I love it when non-native speakers of English bust on native speakers for bad grammar? :highfive: (forgive the conceit of the fake smiley tag. It amuses me.)
This is a game you will not win. Well, you'd win it, but it's really _not_ worth the fight. Look over the history here....everything is everyone else's fault. LB cannot assume even a minute amount of guilt for things that she's clearly started.
And even if you've done nothing wrong, she'll twist whatever you say to make it look like you do. We've all seen this first hand.
Dagney
(Proud member of the LB hates me club)
posted by LUVBUGZ in the Strawberry thread
If you notice I made one post referring to this thread and out of nowhere there's Wolf and FNF jumping on my ass for no good reason. This is quite a common occurrence in the Cellar
It's not all that common, but as you are convinced that everyone hates you and immediately jumps on you because you are personally reprehensible you are welcome to intrepret events as you like.
You know...the Cellar should open up a CafeShops store with "I hate LUVBUGZ" fan gear...
I'd buy a complementary tshirt for dave if someone tells me where to ship it...
Originally posted by FileNotFound
Oh and it's "best" not bestest.
No, it's "bestester".
Originally posted by wolf
At this point I believe that list includes everyone on The Cellar except LUVBUGZ and xoxoxoBruce (but only because she wants a majority of his stuff).
wow,
there must really be some rough history here. I've been actively participating for roughly a month, and have seen several references to luvbugz in less than complimentary ways. She's been inactive for a couple of months, and the hatred is still fresh. I'd like a little background if it is possible to seperate the hurt feelings and frustration from the chain of events that led us here. I'm not trying to rekindle any old fights, so if we could shy away from actual examples and speak in broad form, that would probably be best.
luvbugz,
where have you been while you were away?
IS it your contention that the people here are all retards?
ps. i'm impressed that you have been able to piss wolf and juju off.....they're both pretty cool customers.
I'm no more pissed about BUGZ than I was about staceyv.
I promise you, you'll know when I'm pissed.
Originally posted by wolf
I promise you, you'll know when I'm pissed.
I'll hear the spent shells tinkling on the tarmac?:rattat:
I am not a troll. This is MY FUCKING THREAD so I can visit, lurk, post, etc. whenever, however I want to.
If you would calm the fuck down for one friggin second, I was already posting here when your PM came through. You gave me all of half a minute to read it and respond.
MTG is a stupid game, so are ALL the other card games. That is MY opinion. If you don't like MY opinion, that is YOUR problem.
Fist of all, it's FNF. Is that too tough for your one brain cell to handle? Well you can call me File if having two of the same letter in a word is too confusing for you.
You have got to be THE biggest hypocritical ass-wipe I know. Before you go off half-cocked about my brain cell capacity why don't you pick up a fucking dictionary. Fist this :flipbird: asshole!!!
FNF, NFN, whatever, I don't really give a shit what your name is.
I didn't say you or anyone else was attacking me. It has already been decided that IT is "friendly advice". So thanks for the "friendly advice" and remember that I'm not worth the effort so don't fucking offer it anymore.
I don't actually have a list of Cellar retards. That would be Dave with that list and I do believe it was/is quite long. Apparently, I was/is close to number one, or maybe just shy if it. *I* have a list of assholes with a few names on it to which yours has been added.
You revolt me because you are a ignorant, conceited, arrogant, asshole who finds glee in starting shit with people he doesn't know shit about. You are also a hypocritical fuck face who finds it necessary to put me down for things that you yourself turn around and do as well.
I am fully aware that it is "best", not "bestest". That was done for your benefit, so you could follow along without pausing for comprehension.
Originally posted by lumberjim
I'll hear the spent shells tinkling on the tarmac?
Unless she's pissed AT YOU, in which case you're not likely to be hearing much of anything again. :shotgun:
Originally posted by SteveDallas
Unless she's pissed AT YOU, in which case you're not likely to be hearing much of anything again. :shotgun:
OK, admit it....you just wanted to use that smiley, didn't you? i should have added it to my post.....maybe i'll edit it back in.
I am insulted that you find my "I'm sorry" was not heartfelt. I am sorry for contributing to your problem regarding contrast, but I am not sorry for posting in sea-green. I can see, though, where you might have misunderstood my "I'm sorry" since it was posted in sea-green. I don't think your request is ridiculous I just don't see what right it is of yours to tell me not to post in sea-green.
Why exactly are the colors available if not to be used?
Anyhoo, I just think it is stupid to flame on for days about me posting in sea-green. What a frivolous thing to fritter one's time away with.
Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
I am not a troll. This is MY FUCKING THREAD so I can visit, lurk, post, etc. whenever, however I want to.
I am referring to your general responses in other threads. They seem to be designed to piss somebody off.
If you would calm the fuck down for one friggin second, I was already posting here when your PM came through. You gave me all of half a minute to read it and respond.
MTG is a stupid game, so are ALL the other card games. That is MY opinion. If you don't like MY opinion, that is YOUR problem.
You posted it as a statement. There is a huge difference between me saying:
I think all card games are stupid.
and
All card games are stupid.
If you said "I think" I'd ignore it. Opinions are meant to be ignored. You made a statement. Statements are meant to be argued against and defended.
You have got to be THE biggest hypocritical ass-wipe I know. Before you go off half-cocked about my brain cell capacity why don't you pick up a fucking dictionary. Fist this :flipbird: asshole!!!
How am I hypocritical? Please explain. I know I am at times, everyone is when you get down to it, but I try to avoid it. Please find examples.
FNF, NFN, whatever, I don't really give a shit what your name is.
I spell your name correctly, the least you could do is spell mine correctly. If it's beyond your mental capacity then I can understand that, if not, at least make the effort.
I didn't say you or anyone else was attacking me. It has already been decided that IT is "friendly advice". So thanks for the "friendly advice" and remember that I'm not worth the effort so don't fucking offer it anymore.
If it's not "attacking" what does "jumping on my ass" mean? Are you saying we fucked you? Rode you about like a pony?
I don't actually have a list of Cellar retards. That would be Dave with that list and I do believe it was/is quite long. Apparently, I was/is close to number one, or maybe just shy if it. *I* have a list of assholes with a few names on it to which yours has been added.
Feel free to dig up my into post, I mention that I am an asshole. So I'm not at all surprised.
If dave did have a retard list, I'm certain that not only were you on it, but you were the head of the retard list and your name must have been in bold and highlighted...sadly not sea green as you'd have liked it.
You revolt me because you are an ignorant, conceited, arrogant, asshole who finds glee in starting shit with people he doesn't know shit about. You are also a hypocritical fuck face who finds it necessary to put me down for things that you yourself turn around and do as well.
Why am I ignorant?
I didn't start shit with you. You started the shit by saying that a game that I had a lot of respect for is "stupid" as are all card games. I bet your idea of "all card games" is "Hearts, FreeCell and solitaire"
Do show how I am hypocritical. It'd be really nice if you backed up your insults with proof.
For example, I know you only have one brain cell because you find yourself unable to write FNF correctly.
I am fully aware that it is "best", not "bestest". That was done for your benefit, so you could follow along without pausing for comprehension.
I'm sure you are. So far I think I have shown that despite the fact that English is my third language I am fully capable of communicating in it.
Originally posted by SteveDallas
Unless she's pissed AT YOU, in which case you're not likely to be hearing much of anything again. :shotgun:
You beat me to it, SD. That was precisely what I was going to post. ;)
I think that for the purpose of this thread we can consider FnF the "new dave".
How am I hypocritical? Please explain. I know I am at times, everyone is when you get down to it, but I try to avoid it. Please find examples.
Jesus FNF, you are slow aren't you!!!
Here's how.....
quote FNF:
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Fist of all, it's FNF. Is that too tough for your one brain cell to handle? Well you can call me File if having two of the same letter in a word is too confusing for you.
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In the same breath that you moronically decide to attack my mental capabilities you can't even spell a simple English word such as "First".
Is that clear enough for you, simpleton?
Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
I am sorry for contributing to your problem regarding contrast, but I am not sorry for posting in sea-green.
And what, exactly, is the difference?
Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
I don't think your request is ridiculous
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Anyhoo, I just think it is stupid to flame on for days about me posting in sea-green. What a frivolous thing to fritter one's time away with.
Yes you do!!
Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
Why exactly are the colors available if not to be used?
In my opinion, they are best used for emphasis. Just like bold and italics. Some of Lumberjim's posts are good examples.
Originally posted by lumberjim
luvbugz,
where have you been while you were away?
IS it your contention that the people here are all retards?
ps. i'm impressed that you have been able to piss wolf and juju off.....they're both pretty cool customers.
Well, lumberjim, I was working out of state and had no access to the Cellar.
NO, it is NOT my contention that the people here are all retards. Actually I really *hate* that word because it was dipshit Dave's favorite. Initially, there were only two people I didn't like here, but as the incessant flamewars continued a few others reared their ugly heads. It seems like even if you personally have no beef with me you must join in or you're not cool in the eyes of the heavy-hitters.
There are several people who mainly watch this crap, commenting occasionally, which seems reasonable given that it must get old watching every thread I post in turn into a crapfest because some people have nothing better to do that offer me "friendly advice" while claiming that I'm not worth the effort. I call that hypocritical, but they'll deny it to the bitter end.
There are only four or so people here who I consider actual friends and have communicated with outside these Cellar walls. A few have actually backed me on stuff in here only to find themselves on the receiving end of the shit storm too. Albeit for only a short spell. I, on the other hand, will always be a target for "friendly advice" no matter what I say.
I have claimed blame for some of these incidents and apologized, but it doesn't matter. The shit continues. I really don't have a problem with people disagreeing with me or deciding not to like me, but I prefer they do so based on something I did or said to them, not just because the "popular crowd" is doing it.
As far as advice goes, I really do appreciate honest to goodness helpful advice, because I realize that I do need it, but trying to guise cruel, hurtful, put-downs and outright face-slapping insults as "helpful advice" is a huge crock of steaming shit. Although hard to listen to at times, a few people have offered true advice and I have listened and tried to follow it.
Many Cellarites are really interesting, intelligent people who I find enjoyable to communicate with, but it never fails that anything I post leads to an off-topic flow of liquid feces, hence ruining any enjoyment, enlightenment, or education I might find here.
So why do I stay, or come back, you ask? I'm not really sure to tell you the truth. I thought a few weeks away and this crap would blow over, but apparently that's not the case. I guess I just hope that some of these people will eventually get tried of starting shit over stupid little things and actually converse, discuss, debate as adults rather that name-calling and blows below the belt.
Yes, I know pissing off Wolf and Juju seems like a pretty good feat, but honestly I don't know how, when, or why I did. I'm sure they will be more than willing to pin-point every little last detail for you, but I'm referring to generally pissing them off. Juju has been helpful and friendly to me in the past, but obviously that's no longer. Wolf was one of the originals to say let's give LUVBUGS a chance, but obvioulsy that's no longer too. I always liked Wolf cus she could kill ya at a hundred yards out, blindfolded, with one hand tied behind her back. I think that's a cool skill. Also the fact that she can make fun of the crazies and get away with it is pretty cool too, but somewhere in fray I have managed to make her shit list as well.
So, lumberjim, for what it's worth that's my side of the story. I'm sure the others will bend your ear with theirs and I am equally confident that those points of view will differ greatly from mine, but that's all that any of this is.....a point of view.:)
Well, Juju, you are entitled to take my "I'm sorry" any way you want to, but I was not trying to hurt, attack or insult you. I was merely trying to express my fondness for green in my posts. As you may or may not have noticed my joy of green posts has indeed faded as I mentioned it would.
And, as per your previous advice, I have included paragraphs in my really long post so as to ease the readers difficulty in wading through it.:)
I have noted your opinion on the use of colored text along with your use of lumberjim's posts as examples to back your opinion.
As I am no longer posting in sea-green I feel as though this point of disagreement has been settled and no longer wish to engage in any further discussion regarding said topic.
Thank You,
LB
[COLOR=indigo]Bugz:
I couldn't understand all the hostility, then I saw the reference to the "Strawberry" thread, so I popped on over and holy cow! You did it again, Bugz. I don't know how. The color thing started with Miss Wolf, but the Magic: The Gathering thing came out of the blue...still looking for that, although I suppose it doesn't really matter.
FNF started out his career here by posting he is an asshole, so I suppose you should chalk it up as that, and leave it alone. Don't try to argue with him, he just gets more wired up and combative. Why he's pissy with me is a mystery as well, and to be honest, I don't really care. Dave taught me some valuable lessons, and my suggestion to you is to just stop all the replies to FNF. Not worth the headache.
I suppose I should apologize for getting your hopes up that things might go smoother with Dave gone, but as you predicted, that didn't happen. Personally, sweetie I think you should post what you like** , in whatever color you like. If the colors weren't meant to be used, they wouldn't be available. If the color annoys come people, well, that's too damn bad. Guess they can just pass on by the posts. The whole thing is really getting on my nerve. This is crazy.
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**I also think you need to ignore the personal remarks, as much as possible, and do your very best NOT to reply to those, AT ALL. I know it's hard, but try. And put FNF on ignore. Like, now. No, right now. Don't buy into the personal insults. And don't personally insult back. At all. And remember to use "IMO" and "I think" or "It's been my experience that" .... alot. It gets tedious, but it does qualify things at bit, and might reduce the flames somewhat. Hopefully.[/size]
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Originally posted by FileNotFound
Has LUVBUGZ hired you as a PR person?
[COLOR=indigo]No, Luvbugz hasn't hired me as a PR person. Why would you even ask that? Because I was asking people to give her a chance? Isn't that something any tolerant, decent person would do?[/COLOR]
Not a bad move, your posts are somewhat more platable than hers and you're nowhere near her score on the ignorance scale.
[color=indigo]Should I say thanks for the backhanded compliment/opinion I never asked for? [/color]
But you know it's odd that you say "start over", cause I think she is trying to "start over" the same old shit by comparing me to dave and all. Great start I say, 5 stars to the tard.
[color=indigo]
If I recall correctly, while you and dave were going at it over April, you were compared to him by other people here. And rightfully so. People can generally be categorized into a few groups. I think you and dave are in the same one. I didn't like the way he got personally insultive and I don't like when you do it, either.
Just saying, "I'm an asshole," doesn't make it ok to treat people badly, and insult them. Doing so only confirms you're an asshole. That's not a good thing. Recall the thread you made those remarks in and how everyone jumped on you. Alot of people called you a troll. I was one of the few that tried to see beyond the trollish bullshit and ask you about Russia, because I'm interested in that. I was nice to you, you didn't insult me, and our relationship continued rather uneventfully until recently, when you started walking that line between sarcasm and insulting.
If you don't want to be compared to dave, don't act like him.[/color]
Isn't it ironic that you're asking for a stop to the "attacks on LUVBUGS" in the "continuing LUVBUGZ" thread? That got a few giggles out of me...
[color=indigo]I posted it on this thread because I saw whit's post: [/color]
Just bringing this back up to the main page on standard viewing options. With Bugz back I think we'll need this thread back.
[color=indigo]
I thought that was begging for a new flame war, so I posted quickly, asking people not to start up again, because it doesn't do any good. Bugz is Bugz, and she's not going to change any time soon, no matter how much you berate her or call names. If you don't like what she posts, why can't you just ignore it and go on to the next one? Because you're an asshole? Again, that doesn't excuse your behavior.
I thought with April's presence, that we understood the difference between "immature" and "adult" behavior. You called her a child and immature and a bunch of other names, like a child in the school yard. FNF, you're a reasonably intelligent, mostly lucid writer. Why do you degrade your posts with all that childish crap? You're above that. Aren't you?[/color]
Actually, I figured out a great compromise. For those Cellarites who use
Privoxy (v. 3.0.2), you can modify your config files like this:
In your user.action file, add the following:<blockquote>{+filter{site-specifics}}
cellar.org</blockquote>In the default.filter file, in the "FILTER: site-specifics" section, add the following:<blockquote>s/<font color="indigo">/<font color="black">/g
s/<font color="seagreen">/<font color="black">/g</blockquote>Users can then post in indigo and seagreen to their hearts' content, and it will still appear as black to you.
Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
And, as per your previous advice, I have included paragraphs in my really long post so as to ease the readers difficulty in wading through it.:)
This is awesome. I think you'll find that people will "get" what you have to say more often that way. :)
By the way, I also added this to the "FILTER: site-specifics" section in the default.filter file:<blockquote>s/This person is on your <b>Ignore List<\/b>\.//g</blockquote>Though I only have j03L10T on my ignore list now, I used to have Nickname on the list, and I found it extremely annoying to be constantly reminded (in bold, no less) that he was on my ignore list. This solves that problem and allows one to put people on my ignore list knowing they won't still annoy me.
[COLOR=indigo]I wish there was something else that the less techno of us could use. Any suggestions?[/COLOR]
Yeah, it is a little complicated to set up, as the configuration options are all in text files that you have to edit. But I don't know of any other programs that allow for the level of flexibility and power that Privoxy provides.
Wow...this thread has really grown. Quickly. You know...like a cancer.
psst! lovebugz......i have an idea.........[color=brick red]
post under a new name[/color].........what you are experiencing is "the[color=red] red headed[/color] step child" treatment. You admittedly stepped in shit a few times and, although you have made the effort to right yourself with those cellarites that had issues with you, they still remember.
It doesn't seem like people are going to forget, either. Seemed to me like you didn't really do much to deserve the gang tackle you took for using sea green. However,I can't argue against them either,as I don't know enough about what you did to provoke them. This is because I am unwilling to go back and read all of your old flame wars . Mostly because I'm lazy, but also because I don't think it would be meet of me to hold a past that I had no personal stake in against you. Now, my opinion, honestly is a
bit shaded by what I've read about you, and I'm sorry about that, but thats just the way that works....you're infamous.
Anyway, you have a
mostlyclean slate with me.
and cougar, :beer: your advice to FnF and Luvbugz was right on target. [COLOR=indigo]Salud![/COLOR]
Well, thanks again for the kind, helpful advice. I have, as usual, taken it to heart and will do my best to follow through. You *know* how hard that Ignore Button can be.
On a more cheerful note, I can't wait to get my tree and decorate it so you can see how [color=purple]purple [/color]it will be. For the last four or so years I've gone totally purple, before it was purple and green, and it is beautiful. I *know* you'll be jealous.;)
LB:)
Luvbugz,
Yeah what Onyx said.
And don't listen to lumberjim. If you posted under another name, people would be able to tell it's you, and it would cause a shitstorm like you've never seen before. :rattat: :turd: :turd: :turd:
Welcome back,
B
Well, the name change has been suggested to me before, but I never felt comfortable with that. I am me and no matter what user name I use I'd still be me. Which, coincidentally, would be extremely easy to figure out and as you may have noticed, trying to change your Cellar stature by pulling the 'ol name switch a roo is definitely frowned upon here, therefore I have never gone that route. I figure if people don't like me as LUVBUGZ they'd hate me more as something else.
Anyhoo, I thank you for taking the time to ask AND listen to my view of the situation and for not jumping on the band wagon just because *almost* everybody else is. :)
[sarcasm] I'm sure given enough time I'll manage to piss you off too:D . [/sarcasm]
Hey B,
Yeah, what you said too. I was just finishing up my post to Lumberjim when I saw what you posted. That's exactly why I never have and never will post under a different name. Great minds think alike;) .
Thanks for the welcome back. How's Dusty doin'? Kiss the little begger for me will ya? Too bad we live so far apart cuz I have this really cool cat that I rescued earlier this year that I have to find a home for. I usually end up keeping everything I rescue, but I'm currently two over my limit and my landlord is getting on my ass about it. He is an adult so it's harder to find him a good home, but I know you would be a great mom for him.
I went to your site that was linked here, somewhere, to look at your "Nakkita" thingie you did, I know that's not it, sorry I can't recall the title. I wanted to see some of your "pixel magic" in motion, but it took FOREVER to download and then after all that it said I couldn't view it. I'm no 'pooter wizard and my 'pooter sucks so I don't know what the deal was, but I wanted to see it.
Oh, and your name is really neat too. What nationality are you or is your name just unique in and of itself? PM me if you don't want that common knowledge, I'm just curious.
LUVBUGZ:)
Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
I went to your site that was linked here, somewhere, to look at your "Nakkita" thingie you did, I know that's not it, sorry I can't recall the title.
I think "Malaika" is what you mean. I've tried to make the thing as downloadable as possible. You need Quicktime to view it.
My name is Swedish. Dusty's cool as ever. I can PM you some other pleasantries.
Originally posted by bmgb
I think "Malaika" is what you mean. I've tried to make the thing as downloadable as possible. You need Quicktime to view it.
My name is Swedish. Dusty's cool as ever. I can PM you some other pleasantries.
Yeah, that's it. Actually, come to think of it I was using my friends 'pooter, not mine, cuz mine was screwed up as usual and he *hates* Quicktime so I didn't risk the fecal plume that would errupt if I downloaded Quicktime on his 'pooter. I have somewhat fixed mine and I do have Quicktime so I'll try again.
Cool name, cool cat, cool B. :cool: :cool: :cool:
Pleasantries, in any form, would be greatly appreciated.:D
LB:)
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- An unmistakable ability to enjoy each moment.
- Loss of interest in judging others.
- Loss of interest in interpreting actions of others.
- Loss of interest in conflict.
- Loss of ability to worry.
- Frequent, overwhelming episodes of appreciation.
- Contented feelings of connectedness with others and nature.
- Frequent attacks of smiling through the eyes from the heart.
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LB:)
I think a map would be more helpful than a description of the destination. :)
Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
. . . I'm no 'pooter wizard and my 'pooter sucks . . .
Personally, I don't care whether LUVBUGZ continues to post or not, but I wish she's stop constantly talking about her cunt.
***note to BUGZ: You might want to check out what UrbanDictionary.com says about your pooter. Looks like someone already included you on the site (8th definition).Originally posted by Beestie
I think a map would be more helpful than a description of the destination. :)
You are so right about that. If I had the map none of us would be having this conversation. I don't know what got into me last night when I posted that. I was feeling kinda warm and fuzzy with a little Rodney King mixed in.:rolleyes:
Thanks for the map OC, now if I could only read the darn thing.;)
Think about it though...
Doesn't inner peace sound awfully dull?
Yes I was the guy in Kung Fu practice who during the one minute medication would open one eye to see if anybody else was geting bored.
Originally posted by FileNotFound
...one minute medication...
I don't think that was Kung Fu, pally. ;) That, or your instructor had some interesting theories on preparing to fight.
"Now, place the needle between your first two toes..."
Pre practice we always meditated...then they'd 'stretch' and work out..
Then they'd try to kill us...although they said 'train'. But I knew better.
Also, NEVER ask 'what' a specific move is for, because I now know that deep inside they're just waiting for you to ask, waiting for that chance to show you just what that move is for so that you never forget...
That all sounds fine, I was just wondering what sort of one-minute medication you'd get. Did the instructor pass out dime bags, or what?
Ah, the volumes of humor in a typo. It just won't quit being funny, no matter how hard I try. Cough.
Originally posted by 99 44/100% pure
Personally, I don't care whether LUVBUGZ continues to post or not, but I wish she's stop constantly talking about her cunt.
***note to BUGZ: You might want to check out what UrbanDictionary.com says about your pooter. Looks like someone already included you on the site (8th definition).
Aside from the fact that you meant this to be a hurtful comment, I found that site fucking hilarious. I knew some :censored: would eventually give me shit about this, but I didn't expect it to be from a female. I truely wasn't aware that pooter to the less-civilized meant CUNT. Aside from my use of the word to mean COMPUTER, I've also associated it with ASSHOLE and FART, but never CUNT. Like they say you learn something new everyday, thanks for the tip Pooter.
Erm. As a certified asshole I think I can say with a degree of certainty that 99 44/100% pure's comment was in no way designed to be hurtful.
Personally I thought it was hilarious...
For the lazy, the eighth definitition for 'pooter reads:
'Cutesy' euphemism employed by attention-craving idiots when relentlessly insinuating themselves into electronic communities.
"My sucky pooter takes forever to look at porn, esp. videos" --this is a good example of IRONY, given the more prevalent definitions of 'pooter.'
Heheh. Funny. I wouldn't say it's hurtful to suggest this applies to you... probably just playful, or jabbing. Unless of course your emotional skin has the strength of a wet kleenex. Lighten up a little.
Originally posted by hot_pastrami
Heheh. Funny. I wouldn't say it's hurtful to suggest this applies to you... probably just playful, or jabbing. Unless of course your emotional skin has the strength of a wet kleenex. Lighten up a little.
From a bystanders position, such as yours, I would agree with you HP, but given 99's past commentary to and about me I'm quite sure it was meant as a hurtful remark. Now, not to over analyze this, but if 99 had chosen to refer the reader to def. 8 and based her commentary solely on that, I would definitely not have take such offense, but she remarks about me discussing my CUNT (which is a highly offensive word to a woman, IMO) yet if you read def. 8 it has nothing to do with CUNTS.
Granted, this may have not been what 99 meant by her remarks, but this is how I took them. And if she in no way meant to offend me, then she will in no way be offended by me reply. Either way, it's all good. As far as my emotional skin, I think I'm up to a wet Brawny paper towel strength, well past those "other" brands.;)
Mary had a little lamb
And it was always gruntin'
She tied it to a five bar gate
And kicked its little pooter in
What's wrong with being called a cunt? I love cunts!
Hey UT,
Happy Belated Birthday. I love the new smilies.
So.......is that what you meant by "From piss to poetry"?;)
LB
Originally posted by juju
What's wrong with being called a cunt? I love cunts!
If you were a girl, Donald, you might not feel this way. How would you feel if some dork-ass called little Sarah a CUNT? Would you *love* it then? Maybe, you would, but in my experience, and from discussing the word with other women, CUNT is just not a nice word to be called.
I realize it is just a word like BITCH, DICK, ASSHOLE, etc., but for some reason it holds some especially negative connotation for most women.:(
My plan is to reach a point with her where she'd either laugh at the person, or just have no reaction at all.
That sounds reasonable, but I think it would be better if no one called her, or any other female, that in the first place. I know you can't really control what other butt-heads do or say, but I don't see anything wrong with expressing my displeasure with their use of the word.
That's exactly the point, though. I can't control what happens outside the house. People <i>will</i> call her names. So it's much more effective to just not give the words such a holy power.
Otherwise, you're just setting yourself up to be manipulated. And I <i> hate</i> being manipulated.
Exactly. My feeling is this:
You do not have the right not to be offended. You have the ability.
Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
From a bystanders position, such as yours, I would agree with you HP, but given 99's past commentary to and about me I'm quite sure it was meant as a hurtful remark. Now, not to over analyze this, but if 99 had chosen to refer the reader to def. 8 and based her commentary solely on that, I would definitely not have take such offense, but she remarks about me discussing my CUNT (which is a highly offensive word to a woman, IMO) yet if you read def. 8 it has nothing to do with CUNTS.
Granted, this may have not been what 99 meant by her remarks, but this is how I took them. And if she in no way meant to offend me, then she will in no way be offended by me reply. Either way, it's all good. As far as my emotional skin, I think I'm up to a wet Brawny paper towel strength, well past those "other" brands.;)
So you go away for a while and expect everyone to forget about your prior transgressions - so how about DROPPING THE PAST - especially if that is what you are asking for from others.
Originally posted by juju
What's wrong with being called a cunt? I love cunts!
It's like the difference between having a dick, and being called a dick, juju, only worse.
Way worse.
Point of technical fact, you love pussy (unless I am misjudging you, and I don't think I am in this instance).
There is a difference, in terms of the connotation.
Cunts have higher mileage. With a variety of drivers, so to speak.
I also perceived 99's commentary as an attempt to be helpful.
(and, as to be expected, funny as shit.)
I'd say they're pretty different. If someone calls you a dick, that means you're being a jerk. That might well be a valid criticism, in which case I may try not to be that way.
But the word "cunt" seems to serve no purpose except as a button to press in people. Why provide the button? It's pointless. It's just a word.
But yes, I know what you mean.
Originally posted by insoluble
So you go away for a while and expect everyone to forget about your prior transgressions - so how about DROPPING THE PAST - especially if that is what you are asking for from others.
I don't "expect" everyone to forget "my" prior transgressions, as you put it, in which case they have no right to "expect" me to forget "theirs". You see, while I admit to having overreacted at times and hence becoming very defensive, I was NOT the only player in the game. I have attempted to apologize for my part in the never ending flame wars and tried to move past that, but those who engaged in such activities with me will not accept that, nor will they even admit to any wrongdoing on their parts, so at this point in time no matter what I do or say it has been made apparent to me that those efforts are in vain.
So while I would like to DROP THE PAST, it seems highly unlikely that anyone will. Opinions have been made about me and seem to be set in stone. All I can do is continue to try and change these opinions, but I must also say that as long as I am "attacked" by others I will defend myself. I will not sit on my hands and let others call me ignorant, hypocritical, stupid, retarded, etc. when I am not. Yeah, I know at times we have *all* been one or more of these things, but that's to be expected.....we are all human after all, but just because I disagree with someone or have a different opinion on something or someone does not automatically make me stupid or ignorant, etc.
[COLOR=indigo]I would like to note here that I feel that 99's post was not meant as a "gentle jab", but insultive. Not only the reference to def 8 but the use of the "c" word, which has always been and will always be offensive to me.
I think many would agree, that in the "book of namecalling", the "c" word is probably in the top 10 most offensive. This, I feel, is exactly why 99 chose it. A "jab" might be bitch or dumbshit.
And as far as papertowel skin goes, even leather can be cut with a knife.[/COLOR]
which has always been and will always be offensive to me.
Don't you think that's a little closed-minded? I mean, I realize you feel strongly about it, but I just think you'd be a stronger person if you'd just not let it bother you.
Why are so many women so sensitive and lacking in self-confidence?
If you can be hurt by the mere mention of a word, you should probably avoid reading.
[SIZE=1]My actual feelings on the topic are not as flip as this simple statement[/SIZE]
Because people raise them this way.
Boys are taught not to cry and not to take insults seriously.
Girls...are not.
Originally posted by OnyxCougar
I think many would agree, that in the "book of namecalling", the "c" word is probably in the top 10 most offensive. This, I feel, is exactly why 99 chose it. A "jab" might be bitch or dumbshit.
Well, 99 didn't call LUVBUGZ a cunt, she made a joke which included the word "cunt." HUGE diffrerence between "She is a cunt" and "I wish she's stop constantly talking about her cunt."
Originally posted by OnyxCougar
And as far as papertowel skin goes, even leather can be cut with a knife.
Poetic... but personally, when I am not wielding my knife as a weapon, I have little sympathy for someone who chooses to fling themselves into it. Someone who takes offense when it is not intended is a fool. Someone who takes offense when it
is intended is seven times a fool.
Originally posted by FileNotFound
Because people raise them this way.
Boys are taught not to cry and not to take insults seriously.
Girls...are not.
In some cultures boys are taught to kill people that insult them. Girls take insults and
perceived insults seriously.
Originally posted by juju
I'd say they're pretty different. If someone calls you a dick, that means you're being a jerk. That might well be a valid criticism, in which case I may try not to be that way.
But the word "cunt" seems to serve no purpose except as a button to press in people. Why provide the button? It's pointless. It's just a word.
But yes, I know what you mean.
But then that would have to apply for EVERY word that someone would take offense to, including "dick" (or being called one).
I've always believed that everyone has a button to push. It may take a while with some, but it's there.
I saw a sign today that pretty much says it all ,
Argueing with a trucker is like wrestling with a pig in mud , eventualy you figuer out they like mud .
Please for the love of god drop this sorry ass conversation !!!
UT please consider blowing this whole fucked up thread off the cellar . I am gettign sick of seeing LB and every body else argue about FUCKING NOTHING !!!!!!!!!!!
LB is a psyco !!
FNF is an ass !!!!
Who hasn't figuered this out yet ????
It has been noted that several people are not interested in seeing or partaking in THIS conversation throughout the Cellar and for this reason UT has kindly provided this thread for said conversation to occur.
I agree that any issues people have with or about me should be discussed, settled, etc. here rather than in the general forum areas and people have seized the opportunity to do so.
I can appreciate the fact that you are not one of these people so my suggestion to you would be NOT to visit this thread.
Although this thread does consist of a lot of arguing about nothing, it also is an area where hopefully with open, honest communication some issues of more substance can be addressed and worked through between myself and other Cellarites.
If I may also suggest, when you see some flammage errupting outside of this thread that you kindly refer the participants to continue their issues here rather than in the general forum areas. I think this will eliminate a lot of problems with people who are tired of observing random flamefests in the middle of perfectly good threads.
BTW, cute sign, thanks for posting it. :thumb:
Oh, and I'm not a psycho. :)
so how about posting a pic of yourself in the cellar members image gallery thread lb?
Originally posted by hot_pastrami
Poetic... but personally, [color=blue]when I am not wielding my knife as a weapon, I have little sympathy for someone who chooses to fling themselves into it.[/color]
[color=blue]fuckin A[/color]:thumb:
Someone who takes offense when it is not intended is a fool. Someone who takes offense when it is intended is seven times a fool.
did you make that up? sounds like gandhi or budha or someshit......
Originally posted by lumberjim
did you make that up? sounds like gandhi or budha or someshit......
As far as I know, it's an original of mine, but it may be something that my subconscience quietly absorbed and regurgitated later. I borrowed the "seven times a fool" bit from some other quote though, to lend it a sort of false credibility.
Originally posted by insoluble
so how about posting a pic of yourself in the cellar members image gallery thread lb?
There's a shot of my ugly mug, albeit a 15 year old high school sr. pic, somewhere around the Cellar, I can't remember where? I'll try and find it for ya.
Originally posted by hot_pastrami
As far as I know, it's an original of mine, but it may be something that my subconscience quietly absorbed and regurgitated later. I borrowed the "seven times a fool" bit from some other quote though, to lend it a sort of false credibility.
smooth.....did you ever sell cars?
how bout the knife thing? that original too......i mean, two in one post? i am truly
impressedThe following link may contain graphic images not suitable for young viewers. Parental discretion is advised.
Here it is insoluble.:eek:
Well that didn't work out too well, sorry. I was trying to send you do the specific post where I am pictured, but sent you to the thread instead. Anyone know how to do this correctly? If not, scroll down a ways until you come across the ugly person with big hair:eek3:, that would be me:biggrin: .
Hey Syc,
Long time no interaction w/ you. Yeah, the link works, but I thought there was a way to link directly to a specific post, not the thread in general. Just curious, is there?
You already did it right...the link you created takes people directly to the post with your pic.
I'm not trying to bring up a sore subject for some, but I was looking through my Land's End catalog and saw a pair of "Forest Green" (my name for the specific color) fleece slippers I want. I like looking at what companies come up with for uniquely naming regular old colors and given the recent "discussion" of various forms of green (not including teal, cuz we all know teal is teal :rolleyes: ) I thought it humorous that they call this color "Black Forest". Doesn't "sound" like a green, does it?;)
Originally posted by sycamore
You already did it right...the link you created takes people directly to the post with your pic.
Ok, good. When I click on the link it takes me to the thread, not the specific post, but if it works for you, then I'll assume it works for everyone else. Thanks Syc.:)
Originally posted by lumberjim
smooth.....did you ever sell cars?
how bout the knife thing? that original too......i mean, two in one post? i am truly impressed
Sell cars? God, no... I would make an awful salesman. I hate interacting with anyone trying to sell me something.
Yeah, the knife thing was mine, too... I was waxing ultra-poetic for some reason. I must have channelled e e cummings again. Damn him. Or, her. Whichever it is. I'm too tired to remember.
Originally posted by LUVBUGZ
I'm not trying to bring up a sore subject for some, but I was looking through my Land's End catalog and saw a pair of "Forest Green" (my name for the specific color) fleece slippers I want. I like looking at what companies come up with for uniquely naming regular old colors and given the recent "discussion" of various forms of green (not including teal, cuz we all know teal is teal :rolleyes: ) I thought it humorous that they call this color "Black Forest". Doesn't "sound" like a green, does it?;)
take a look through any car brochure......
