Hurricane!
We may as well start our hurricane watch party. Right now, its tracking into central PA. This is a major league storm. Should we start a pool on where she makes landfall?
btw- I picked up lamp oil today. Anybody prepping?
That storm's pretty darned big and getting worse. At this point in time there is no telling where it's going to end up. As a Hurrican Camile survivor who now lives on the Gulf Coast, I'm hoping it stays the hell out in the Atlantic.
Follow the low pressure ridges. Hurricans love low pressure.
I'm taking dibs on the North Carolina Coast, between Wrightsville Beach and the Pamlico Sound.
If it weren't for the collateral damage associated with a catagory five hurrican, I'd sorta like to see one hit the Mississippi gulf coast and take out every last one of those freaking casino's. The coast has been ruined by those things. Anyway to get a storm to selectivly take out the casino's and then head back out to sea? Just hoping. Let the thing head out to the Atlantic and die over the cold water.
I'm going to go with the Delmarva Peninsula: Somewhere between Bethany Beach, DE and Virginia Beach.
I'll probably pick up a few things tonight. Hopefully this will only give us a lot of rain, but even that's a bad thing around here. Six inches apparently fell in some of the western suburbs this morning. My boss was apparently a victim of the rains--his basement flooded and he won't be in today.
Just be prepared, all of you coasties out there. Hurricanes are nothing to sneeze at, even if you are inland a few hundred miles. Monsoon rains and secondary tornadoes are associated with these monsters.
Buy your batteries, check out your radios and flashlights, and buy a few gallons of bottled water. We back here in the Midwest got some pretty serious wake up calls this past May, and I'd hate to think that the rest of the nation hadn't learned anything from Stockton, MO, KC KS and all the other devastated areas in my neck of the woods.
We're definatly prepared. My husband's a Mormon and they've been preparing for disaster for the last hundred years or so. Got the dried food, tarps, duct tape, plastic sheeting, bottled water, and assorted other goodies all stashed away. Now the fun part: we are currently living in a mobile home, Ok, it's a freaking trailor, until our house gets built. Yes, it's anchored and all that happy crappy, but it was builit before the code changes and I'll give it about a snowballs chance in hell in a cat 5 hurrican. Only thing is, I'm not evacuating because I'm not leaving my goats. Don't think I have to worry, we're about 100 mile inland and I don't see the storm heading into the Gulf.
BTW, if you don't have a good weather radio, time to invest in one. Also, if you have food stored in a freezer, and the freezer isn't full (full freezers stay cold longer) the quickest and easiest way to fill one is to fill two liter soda bottles and gallon milk jugs with water. A layer of these on top of frozen food will help keep
it colder longer. Just make sure you keep the freezer closed until the power comes back on.
Originally posted by ThisOleMiss
snowballs chance in hell in a cat 5 hurrican.
...to fill one is to fill two liter soda bottles and gallon milk jugs with water.
do you pronounce it
hurra-can ?
and good advice on the ice bottles - but don't fill 'em all the way! leave and inch or 2 for expansion!:)
Meteorologists like disaster predictions. I'm going to go way out on a limb and predict landfall in the Outer Banks as a Category 3(so far, matching the pros), and then a turn to the northeast, going off to sea.
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forgot to tell you folks I'm about as dyslexic as you can get. So much for spelling!!
[COLOR=indigo]I love my company.
Just got an email that we get our checks on Wednesday, so we can go buy emergency supplies.
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Wow...that is awesomely cool. Good luck, OC. Take pictures, keep us posted, but most of all, stay safe!
The projections I saw online last night (from drudge's site) showed the track of the hurricane heading straight for Grifftopia.
As far as where it's gonna make landfall ... just because it's an odd possibility, I'm pickin' Baltimore.
I see it tracking from DC to Grifftopia.
OC's linked to the dynamic version of that image so it updates automatically!
It's dropping in power now and we all won't see 100 MPH winds on Thursday... only OC.
And me and my bad luck...I'll be in Baltimore until Thursday morning or so. I hope I don't get hit with even high wind as I'll be riding my motorcycle. I don't like being blown around much, and getting wet even less.
Brian
[COLOR=indigo]The red dot is where I live....Isabel is going right over the top of us....[/COLOR]
Originally posted by ThisOleMiss
We're definatly prepared. My husband's a Mormon and they've been preparing for disaster for the last hundred years or so.
The question has to be asked ...
in my reading of the above statement ("my husband's a Mormon") I infer that while your hubby's a Mormon, you are not ...
How'd you manage that one? I thought the Saint's didn't hold with marryin' outside o' the faith ...
(I also note that you didn't phrase it as "was raised as a Mormon," or anything similar, and by either habit or decree of the elders he still has the survival goodies.)
[COLOR=indigo]Well, she's been downgraded to a 2, and from the statellite images, loops and rocks I've seen, she appears to ME (imho) to be starting to stall and dissipate somewhat.
We can only hope for a pressure system to come in and nudge
her more north than west, keeping her out to sea.
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Originally posted by BrianR
And me and my bad luck...I'll be in Baltimore until Thursday morning or so. I hope I don't get hit with even high wind as I'll be riding my motorcycle. I don't like being blown around much, and getting wet even less.
Brian
Wow, be careful, friend. The wind and rain are bad enough but the idiots running for batteries and bread will be distracted for sure. :(
Use your head Brian, its losing steam but it'll still have a lot of juice....
I'm in Seattle, Pugetropolis, Doc Maynard and the Denny's Flying Circus, Jet City, etc. Don't get much in the way of weather. It rains lightly but steadily from October through April. We have the ocassional earthquake and volcano. Not much else.
I hope you East-Coasties all come out okay!:(
View ocean data bouy readings even 150 miles out. Ocean temperature is 82 degrees. Good water temperature to intensify any hurricane.
Always maintained that the Jersey shore has long been in need of a category 1 or 2 hurricane. Complacency is long too widespread. One small hurricane is absolutely necessary to bring sanity back to the east coast communities - and to see if we really are building properly.
A worst case scenario might be a landing on Asbury Park. Or in a hurricane this large, a landing in the Barnegat Light or Little Egg Harbor region. The resulting winds and storm surge would drive water into a bottleneck of NY Harbor, Raritan River, and Shrewsbury River. The resulting flooding would be widespread in Red Bank, New Brunswick, and througout NY Harbor. How many of these regions could withstand a 10 foot storm surge?
Better landing would be in sourther NJ coast. Damage would not be as major, but the lessons should affect every east coast ocean community.
A landing on the NC coastline would not teach much since they already have had numerous storms. Complacency is not so widespread there. Damage is mostly an acceptable event on outer banks. But the Jersey shore needs to learn a serious lesson about building million dollar homes directly on the dunes and beach.
Weather folks around here have started up with the tornado talk. I don't like that kind of talk.
Tornado?
I sure hope not.
I live in the VA burbs of DC and that PMSing wench, Isadore, is scheduled to pass through our 'hood at 2:00 am on Friday (Thursday night). Last night, I went down and checked the battery charger on the backup sump pump so I guess we are ready - I spent an hour in Shoppers last night grabbing stuff to eat that doesn't require any prep and, of course, some water. I stop by the state-controlled liquor store today to get one last thing :)
I was living in East Honolulu in 1992 (Iniki) so I've been through this drill before although that one was a bit scarier. I'll never forget the TV images the night before Iniki hit: This collosal swirling vortex and these teeny, tiny little islands. It was like looking at those pics of the sun with the earth superimposed for reference; one of those pics that's usually followed by a "gulp."
Gonna be a long day tomorrow.
Just filled up the Subaru in case of heavy rain; last time we got a storm through (Floyd), I had to drive through floodwaters in a Miata. A little extra water clearance and four drive wheels will make me feel MUCH better.
Not worried about the house; it's pretty high up on a hill, plenty of vertical displacement between it and the nearest stream, but not on the very top where the worst winds would be. Unless she tracks eastward up the bay and manages a direct hit, I don't see any problem there.
Where you live, Beestie? I'm in Fairfax.
Hang in there, Onyx. I live just west of you and I'll be filling up the bathtubs tonight in case we lose power (well=electric pump=no water when electric goes out).
Where you live, Beestie? I'm in Fairfax.
Cool! I live right next door in Burke.
Hope you got the womenfolk good 'n hid and your hatches battened down (whatever the heck that means!) :eek:
Aw crap, I battened down my woman and hid the hatch!
Careful UT, lose any more weight and you might blow away. :D
I live in Greensburg PA right now, inside of 50-100 miles east of Pittsburgh. Basically, see that picture OC posted? I live about a sixteenth of an inch northeast of where 40 N and 80 W intersect.
From what I'm seeing, there's a nice fat high pressure system just sitting in upstate NY that's doing a good job of running interference for the northern half of the eastern seaboard - that's probably why Isabel's stalling a bit, having to push against that thing. What I'm worried about is this cold front moving across the Midwest. I don't know how fast it's moving, but if the Upstate system slows Isabel to the point where she and the cold front meet, it's possible we might see her going out with a pretty bang.
/me makes plans to e-mail his paper's rough draft to his professor and just watch the rain all day.
[COLOR=indigo]That is a GORGEOUS pic, Bruce.
Update:
We got our paychecks today (2 days early). Today is my day off. While I was in to pick up my check, my manager told me to call later on, because Ops was deciding whether or not to close the call center tomorrow.
I got a phone call from my friend Nan at work, and she forwarded the email. They are, indeed, closing the call center tomorrow. We all get paid if we're scheduled to work it (I am), and they expect us in Friday. If we can't make it, we don't get paid, but the email has an attachment with all the manager's cell phones and home numbers to call if we can't get in (due to flood or whatever).
So I'll be home tomorrow, hopefully the power and cable won't be the first things to go. I took some pics today, looking east at the storm, but it doesn't look impressive, just some clouds. I also took a pic of the houses across the street from my complex. Kinda a before and after thing. Hopefully there won't be much difference.
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Keep us posted, and pics would be great, but under no circumstances should you put yourself in any kind of danger to get them!
Maybe you could do audio if it gets really roaring outside! ;)
Hey, Bruce...was that another shot from ISS? Really nice oblique angle. Very 3D.
Originally posted by Elspode
Keep us posted, and pics would be great, but under no circumstances should you put yourself in any kind of danger to get them!
Maybe you could do audio if it gets really roaring outside! ;)
My digi cam takes video too. I'll see what I can do.
[COLOR=indigo]OK, I'm going to take a few videos with my digi cam, how do I post them? I can throw them up on my ftp webspace through cox but what's the html code so you can dl it?
And the files are .mov, the first one runs 5 megs. How can I compress it?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=indigo]At 2pm, Isabel is 65 miles ESE of Greenville. Winds are 100 mph. The power went out once, for a few moments. I've taken a few 30 second movies. Checking my html book to see how to put it on a page.[/COLOR]
If you email it to me, I could host it here.
[COLOR=indigo]I've got the latest one up, and I *think* it works... 5M DL, don't know how to compress it...
My cox page
Let me know if it works, what you think... etc.[/color]
That's cool but I think a small child being blown across the parking lot would be a better effect.:D
I'm impressed...the sound of the wind blowing is what freaks me out. In a big midwestern storm, you hear the wind *gust* like that a lot, but you don't hear it *sustained* like that, unless you are next to a tornado.
Glad things are going alright, OC...they *are* going alright, aren't they?
Wow...I just watched the second video, the one at the bottom of the page.
Good job, OC. The video really conveys what it is like. Thanks for thinking of us!
[COLOR=indigo]No wiccans were harmed in the making of these movies. ;) Including me.
The 3pm is the most violent one. Everything has pretty much died down now, and it's getting dark, so the 6pm one is the last for tonight.
I think the worst is over, now we only are worried about the flooding.
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So, how far did the storm center miss you by?
For some reason I'm not getting the sound but the picture is great. Thanks Dear.
Good night to snuggle.;)
Wifey sent me this wonderful pic from a tikes community she frequents...
I continue to be amazed at the deadly beauty in nature...
Keep safe all you east coast cellar-dwellers!
Holy Shit! That's incredible, Glass.:eek:
The sea's look too calm... (IMHO)
Any chance of 1024x768? ^^
They've already announced the schools are closing here... a mistake, I think. It should slide right past Phliadelphia with nothing worse than a bad thunderstorm and I think they should have waited to see what actually materialized in the morning.
Gulp - I dropped by to post a sattelite image of Isabel and just saw the incredible pic from GlassJaw! Whoa! That is awesome!
Well, here is my humble offering :)
To drown. Like rats. In the dark.
Seriously, guys, hope you stay safe.
Originally posted by Kris
The sea's look too calm... (IMHO)
yeah, that's not the storm albeit a wonderful picture. i was following the bouy data from the hurricane, at one point i think it's 10-20 nm east of N.C
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.phtml?station=41025 anyway, the highest wave highth was 44.6 feet!!!:eek:
in the pic, if it were the hurricane, you'd see white caps everywhere....
I knew that GlassJaw pic reminded me of something.
That ship looks just like the Edmund Fitzgerald.
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The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
of the big lake they called "Gitche Gumee."
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
when the skies of November turn gloomy.
With a load of iron ore twenty-six thousand tons more
than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty,
that good ship and true was a bone to be chewed
when the "Gales of November" came early.
The ship was the pride of the American side
coming back from some mill in Wisconsin.
As the big freighters go, it was bigger than most
with a crew and good captain well seasoned,
concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms
when they left fully loaded for Cleveland.
And later that night when the ship's bell rang,
could it be the north wind they'd been feelin'?
The wind in the wires made a tattle-tale sound
and a wave broke over the railing.
And ev'ry man knew, as the captain did too
'twas the witch of November come stealin'.
The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait
when the Gales of November came slashin'.
When afternoon came it was freezin' rain
in the face of a hurricane west wind.
When suppertime came the old cook came on deck sayin'.
"Fellas, it's too rough t'feed ya."
At seven P.M. a main hatchway caved in; he said,
"Fellas, it's bin good t'know ya!"
The captain wired in he had water comin' in
and the good ship and crew was in peril.
And later that night when 'is lights went outta sight
came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
Does any one know where the love of God goes
when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay
if they'd put fifteen more miles behind 'er.
They might have split up or they might have capsized;
they may have broke deep and took water.
And all that remains is the faces and the names
of the wives and the sons and the daughters.
Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings
in the rooms of her ice-water mansion.
Old Michigan steams like a young man's dreams;
the islands and bays are for sportsmen.
And farther below Lake Ontario
takes in what Lake Erie can send her,
And the iron boats go as the mariners all know
with the Gales of November remembered.
In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed,
in the "Maritime Sailors' Cathedral."
The church bell chimed 'til it rang twenty-nine times
for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald.
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
of the big lake they call "Gitche Gumee."
"Superior," they said, "never gives up her dead
when the gales of November come early!"
"The Wreck of the Edmund Fitgerald", Gordon Lightfoot.
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My wife often cites Mr. Lightfoot's immortal story-song as an example of music I am not allowed to perform, under any circumstances, in her presence. Shot the hell out of my Harry Chapin repertoire, too.
Originally posted by plthijinx
yeah, that's not the storm albeit a wonderful picture. i was following the bouy data from the hurricane, at one point i think it's 10-20 nm east of N.C
When in the hurricane eye, does the ocean go flat? I too was watchng 41025 hoping to learn what happens to ocean surface as hurricane winds stop.
Suddenly waves in the high twenties rose to high thirties. Then the wind speed and direction data stopped. Then at somewhere between 2:30 and 2:40, the data buoy went silent. 44 foot waves were the highest when the data buoy failed.
Nearby data buoy 41025 is the Diamond Shoals Light tower. Unlit because it is too unstable to put maintenance people on. Did DSL survive those 44+ foot waves? And what happens to 44 foot waves when they hit a bottom that is only 70 feet down?
Originally posted by Elspode
My wife often cites Mr. Lightfoot's immortal story-song as an example of music I am not allowed to perform, under any circumstances, in her presence. Shot the hell out of my Harry Chapin repertoire, too.
Not like Harry Chapin!?!? She must be a witch.:haha: :haha: :haha:
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
She must be a witch.
:whofart: Meaning what, exactly?
Don't mess with me or I'll tell everybody you're a closet Mormon.:p
[COLOR=indigo]EX-Mormon. And I've already mentioned that here. [/COLOR]
:p
Originally posted by tw
When in the hurricane eye, does the ocean go flat? I too was watchng 41025 hoping to learn what happens to ocean surface as hurricane winds stop.
Suddenly waves in the high twenties rose to high thirties. Then the wind speed and direction data stopped. Then at somewhere between 2:30 and 2:40, the data buoy went silent. 44 foot waves were the highest when the data buoy failed.
Nearby data buoy 41025 is the Diamond Shoals Light tower. Unlit because it is too unstable to put maintenance people on. Did DSL survive those 44+ foot waves? And what happens to 44 foot waves when they hit a bottom that is only 70 feet down?
it's my understanding that the seas won't have time to calm down in the eye. too much going on around it to settle. only the wind calms down due to the center. in a low pressure system the winds are rotating counter-clock wise and up so all it's doing in the warmer waters is feeding itself......i'm rambling again. as far as the 44+ and 70 foot depth? one helluva jacuzzi!:thumb:
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Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
Not like Harry Chapin!?!? She must be a witch.:haha: :haha: :haha:
She just doesn't like long, drawn out, repetetive-melody story songs. I, however, love the damn things.
Sniper..what an amazingly cool song about a terribly disturbing subject, and written so many years ago...
Originally posted by OnyxCougar
:whofart: Meaning what, exactly?
You're made of wood, and they can build a bridge out of you!:D
There's a bulge in the sea at the eye of the hurricane. That's a large part of what becomes the storm surge when the storm moves ashore.
So saying, that hurricane was a big sucker, is more than just an expression. ;)
Has this one already been posted here? Allegedly an Isabel pic.
Methinks I'd be pointing that ship hard to starboard at that moment.
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Forgiveness is the fragrance of the Violet, which clings to the heel which crushed it.
Originally posted by russotto
There's a bulge in the sea at the eye of the hurricane. That's a large part of what becomes the storm surge when the storm moves ashore.
that makes sense seeing as how the low pressure is, ahem, sucking everything counterclockwise and up (calm down bruce, i know that got ya started!:D )
Contrary to popular opinion, I can vacuum the rugs without becoming excited. I just don't see the point. :p
I hope every body weathered the storm ok . I have never been thru a huricane , quite a few tornadoes , weirdest but best place to hide is in a bath tub in an inside bathroom. As i said i have never been thru a huracane , but i did get to sit thru a typhone ( i know same shit different part of the world ) in Okinowa Japan once . They made us put our wall lockers against the windows and sit in the middle of the squad bay . Once when we were going to chow in a aprox 70-80 knot wind we heard "YAAAHOOOO" and this dude went ZIPPING by on a flat cart with a broom stick and a bed sheet , a freind and I looked at each other and said "I wounder how he would stop ?? or turn ??"
About 5 minets later we heard an amdulance headed the way he was going .
Once when i was stationed in Iceland the weather got bad ( who am i trying to fool , the weather was bad most of the time ) , 80-90 knot winds , some damn fool kid got his hands on a parashoute , stepped out in the wind and said "Hey ya'll watch this !!!" ,,,, the PJs ( air force resque dudes,BEST OF THE BEST ) never found him or any trace of him . I guess it was the big man up stairs thinning the heard :confused: :confused: :(
Zip, you have the best stories.