The Cellar is closing at the end of the year (sooner, if the new location is stable)
...save your buffers
Since many people don't check the tagline, that is the official word.
An alternate forum for Dwellars is being considered. If anything becomes available it will be posted.
This is profoundly unfortunate.
So it's for certain. What is a buffer?
It's the space you thought you had just before you smash your knuckles.
what have we learned?????
An alternate forum for Dwellars is being considered. If anything becomes available it will be posted.
I dont wanna lose this site because of 1 member!!!!
I DONT WANT AN ALTERNATIVE SITE ON CRAPPY NEWER SOFTWARE....... (Xenforo for example) -- I think this is very sad Flint has caused this to happen........
I hope Undertoad calms down before 31 December..... We are running out of good VBB sites!!
I think this is very sad Flint has caused this to happen........
Trump, is that you?
Still, seriously, what does "save your buffers" mean?
I dont wanna lose this site because of 1 member!!!!
I DONT WANT AN ALTERNATIVE SITE ON CRAPPY NEWER SOFTWARE....... (Xenforo for example) -- I think this is very sad Flint has caused this to happen........
I hope Undertoad calms down before 31 December..... We are running out of good VBB sites!!
First off, Dude.... it's not because of ONE member.... and let's not forget who brought the spamming newbie in that set Flint's spamhammer spinning. Not really fair of you to try to lay the whole thing at his feet.
DickMove111
"The world is coming to an end - save your buffers" was a cookie for a long time. It's a joke from computer history, when if your computer crashed it meant the loss of the data in cache memory, ie. the buffers, which could be traumatic if it happened at the wrong time.
Operating system history: The idea of "orderly shutdown" was built into Linux, but not so much into Windows. the idea was that Windows could die at any moment and not become confused, because it was shitty and crashed all the time and so a crash had to not be as traumatic as it was. Linux needed buffers because it was performing things for everybody, not just for one user. So it didn't crash so much, and if you were turning it off, it would carefully write all the data in memory to disk before shutting down.
Since Windows wasn't caching things for everybody, it meant that Windows was slow at doing server-type stuff -- at the moment when the Internet was coming online, and suddenly server type stuff became wildly important. (Of course, in Windows you would lose documents and spreadsheets in a crash, because the ability to save was left up to the applications, and autosave was cutting-edge technology and they've only just recently figured out that it is a good idea.)
Cellar is performing an orderly shutdown.
Thank you.
For everything.
Its very sad to lose such a good site :(
And we arer left with crap........
I'm genuinely rocked by this. It's like the foundations of my life are shifting.
Thank you Undertoad - I am beyond grateful for the community you helped start and then maintained for decades. I hope (if there is no change in decision) that you will join the new community (unencumbered by responsibility) so that we can stay in touch.
The Cellar is a strange place - it isnt just another message board, just another online community - it is a family: a thoroughly dysfunctional family with various aunts and uncles feuding and a fist fight at most family gatherings, but a family nonetheless.
I would like to think that the family is relocating rather than dying out.
Regardless though - it is the end of an era.
This site is older than your average tech billionaire
Its very sad to lose such a good site :(
And we arer left with crap........
Dude, there are many good sites out there, just find them...it's a hit and miss and I have been and am on that path.....and sites that every other word isn't Fing.....
Makes me wonder if you've really gotten a lot of good healthy help and info here?
But those other sites won't pay attention to you as much as the attention you get when you stir things up here, right?
:eek:
But those other sites won't pay attention to you as much as the attention you get when you stir things up here, right?
:eek::eek::eek:
glatt we just need more help and info
Dude, there are many good sites out there, just find them...it's a hit and miss and I have been and am on that path.....and sites that every other word isn't Fing.....
Makes me wonder if you've really gotten a lot of good healthy help and info here?
If you’d looked around before you joined you’d have noticed that there’s a lot of fucking this, and not-safe-for-work posts, and women being asked to get their tits out for the lads. It’s always been here, and if it’s not to your taste no-one forced you to join in.
So please don’t be surprised or offended about it, we didn’t hide it from you till you arrived. You chose to join us.
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If you’d looked around before you joined you’d have noticed that there’s a lot of fucking this, and not-safe-for-work posts, and women being asked to get their tits out for the lads. It’s always been here, and if it’s not to your taste no-one forced you to join in.
So please don’t be surprised or offended about it, we didn’t hide it from you till you arrived. You chose to join us.
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Well Limey I didn't investigate the threads before I joined...trusted the person who brought me in as a like minded soul that I would associate with. I'm not offended, and yes surprised but one keeps learning until DEAD...so it's been a lesson for sure.
And could be that the person who invited me here, had no idea I would be treated so poorly...maybe that's not happened in this forum for some time or never or who the H knows.
This Forum is basically generally good, and if a person joined yrs ago maybe that is the key....but a person who is positive and holistically minded does NOT have a chance and to be 82, good lord...how does an 82 keep up on forums....
You probably envision an 82 yr old in a recliner glued to Fox or whatever nonsense on the tube.
how old do you think she is?
we HATE positive minded people
hit the nail on the head
And freedom. We hate that too :P
My mum is in her late 70s and she would absolutely not be fazed by this place.
Age - is only a factor if you make it so.
- as for holistically minded: there's nothing wrong with that.
Forgive me for tromping in to a discussion that has already apparently run itself into the ground - but over the past couple of days i have seen a lot of allegations against the community because of your experience here, and that draws my attention.
- Your experience is your own - I cannot nor would I seek to tell you that you did not have a horrible experience when you came in here and posted your truth
But, your experience is not indicative of how any and every individual with your opinions would be treated in the Cellar.
Right now - there is a high to middling chance that a new person coming in and spreading what a large number of members consider to be dangerous misinformation will not be greeted with open arms and a willing spirit of discourse. Because right now, everybody has an immediate stake in the issue and tensions are simmering at every level of society.
We are and have always been a strong community at our core - though there are times when that falters for a spell. But we are not immune to the cultural powder keg a lot of people are currently living in.
Ordinarily, someone posting about fringe alternative medicines and the evils of Big Pharma would be met with a range of responses from gentle mockery, through savage commentary and genuine interest - and then the conversation would veer of into uncharted territory as everyone gets distracted by something shiny
We live in extraordinary and highly divided times.
It is very easy to push buttons in such an atmosphere.
how old do you think she is?
42.
666.
81.
how many guesses do I get?
And could be that the person who invited me here, had no idea I would be treated so poorly...
Or maybe that person is clueless AF, buddy. You don't do the research, you pay the consequences.
You have treated this forum very poorly. Only an idiot would not expect it to defend itself.
And -FYI- it is immensely vulgar behavior to use initials of or substitutes for "bad" words. The damage lies in the intent and in using anything at all, not in the actual verbiage. If you wish to use a "swear" word, the most polite thing is just to do so. If there are juveniles present, it may be more appropriate to swear in a language they do not yet understand, e.g. French. I can recommend several etiquette books (most not written by doctors as far as I know), if you would like to research that for yourself. That said, nothing wrong with a good bit of vulgarity -one of the oldest forms of humor and we all know laughter is the best medicine. Have a Blessed Day.
Closing now when I've finally memorised my password?
Closing now when I've finally memorised my password?
you know there's a "remember me" button?
I was joking. I still have no idea what it is.
I was joking. I still have no idea what it is.
LOL
I was joking. I still have no idea what it is.
me either :D
It's the same as all my sock puppets.
...yours is "password", though
Or maybe that person is clueless AF, buddy. You don't do the research, you pay the consequences.
You have treated this forum very poorly. Only an idiot would not expect it to defend itself.
And -FYI- it is immensely vulgar behavior to use initials of or substitutes for "bad" words. The damage lies in the intent and in using anything at all, not in the actual verbiage. If you wish to use a "swear" word, the most polite thing is just to do so. If there are juveniles present, it may be more appropriate to swear in a language they do not yet understand, e.g. French. I can recommend several etiquette books (most not written by doctors as far as I know), if you would like to research that for yourself. That said, nothing wrong with a good bit of vulgarity -one of the oldest forms of humor and we all know laughter is the best medicine. Have a Blessed Day.
What a hypocrite, passive/aggressive --- "have a blessed day"....who you talking to, yourself.
Hey, since you "KIDS" have so much in common, why not start your own forum...it happens all the time....
I will pray for your soul
Maybe some of you guys can come to mauisun,I am a co-admin there :)
www.mauisun.org/smfWhat a hypocrite, passive/aggressive --- "have a blessed day"....who you talking to, yourself.
Hey, since you "KIDS" have so much in common, why not start your own forum...it happens all the time....
We had one, once ....
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We had one, once ....
What Limey said.
I will pray for your soul
I will pray for your rissole also.
Ramen.
OK, this is off on a standard scatter.
I've been here for 13 years and still feel like I haven't been taught the secret handshake.
Before I try to guess what is going on, how about one of the insiders explaining Undertoad's announcement.
The Cellar hasnt been much joy for UT for a while now - there have been odd fallings out, and the divisiveness of modern politics have made themselves felt - into this already not fun situ a new member arrived (jam) and as I understand it posted a lot of stuff about alternative health including some stuff about Covid that many considered to be part of the large covid misinformation drive that has been hitting much of the interwebz.
Responses to teh new member were not overly welcoming (some suspected a troll) and in response the new member doubled down on their assertions and this further fed the notion that they were a troll or spambot - therefore responses got quite vitriolic.
New member (perhaps understandably) is more interested in fighting their corner and reminding us all that they are in their 80s and taking the forum to task for the amount of swearing, lack of manners, lack of welcome for new members than in addressing the fact that their posting style was spammy and abrasive enough for people to think they might be a spambot (or sock puppet for the member who introduced them).
UT is a decent caring man and it did not sit well with him that a human person got dogpiled on the site by people who suspected trolling - and once it became clear they weren't a spambot nevertheless continued to meet the new member with hostility
This was basically the final straw for UT who had already commented a few times over past year or so that he might not want to continue with the cellar and has at times stepped away as a poster, though continued to host.
It's a mess - but it is probably not entirely unexpected - was probably going to happen at some point and this was just the thing that tipped it
We are currently looking at ways to rehouse the community on a new board for any who wish to keep it going.
I think he got mad at Flints outburst cause he didnt say anything of this before :(
I think he got mad at Flints outburst cause he didnt say anything of this before :(
Yes he has Dude111
Dana speaks truth
Remember what happens when you point a finger
Everyone needs to read the six or more threads at Cellar Meta (bottom of main page).
I should have looked but they snuck in on me.
Yes he has Dude111
Cut him some slack; I think he's only up to the 2003 threads
Dana speaks truth
Remember what happens when you point a finger
You make an ass out of U and mption?
man u spoilted the punchline ::sulks::
Cut him some slack; I think he's only up to the 2003 threads
Ah man!!
The Cellar is closing at the end of the year
Goddammit.
Not so much closing as moving house
man u spoilted the punchline ::sulks::
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Change is life's only constant. Come over here
https://cellar.boardhost.com/viewtopic.php?id=17
Kinda hard to read..... Text is smaller and it just isnt as nice......
Anyway JIM of making it HTTP also so older browsers (And non standard ones) can directly get there?? (Alot of sites have both http and https available)
Thanx buddy
No, that site is only good for the newest cutting edge smart tech cloud based quad processor unfettered mobile devices. Flash will not work there, and A-Z topics mean you're gay.
Will you quit whining and complaining? What did you put into it?
The Cellar is closing at the end of the year
then I guess I had my hissy-fit at just the right time
good luck with whatever comes next, toad
:thumbsup:
No, that site is only good for the newest cutting edge smart tech cloud based quad processor unfettered mobile devices. Flash will not work there, and A-Z topics mean you're gay.
damn you to hell. I got distracted before submitting....... now I need to find somewhere else for my rainbow-loving A-Z of flowers and felchers
Its looks good JIM but its hard to read........
The Cellar is closing at the end of the year
then I guess I had my hissy-fit at just the right time
good luck with whatever comes next, toad
:thumbsup:
The community will still be around just at a different site with others taking on the responsibility of keeping the lights on and the floors swept
For all we've clashed at times, I hope you'll drop by the new gaff Henry.
I hope you'll drop by the new gaff Henry.
nah, I'm not doin' that
Even when we were in eighth grade, a disgruntled kid taking his ball and going home seemed particularly unfair.
Even when we were in eighth grade, a disgruntled kid taking his ball and going home seemed particularly unfair.
you can keep the ball; I'll keep
me: that seems fair, yeah?
Well this is a bummer. Don't stop by as often as I used to but still think this place is nearly sacred on the internet.
Thanks, UT for making this place available for us knuckleheads all this time.
Well this is a bummer. Don't stop by as often as I used to but still think this place is nearly sacred on the internet.
Thanks, UT for making this place available for us knuckleheads all this time.
Moving house, Beestie. Do drop by, it’ll all look very familiar:
https://cellar.boardhost.com/index.php
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I hope you'll drop by the new gaff Henry.
nah, I'm not doin' that
You pussy, you desert me in my time of need.
I was counting on you to teach about the brave new world order.
You pussy, you desert me in my time of need.
I was counting on you to teach about the brave new world order.
only thing I can speak about is bein' a free man, a subject you (and most everyone else here) have no interest in, so: you're on your own, bub
Poppycock, if you were a free man you wouldn't be here, because you'd be off the grid with no connection, no sewer, no water, no power, no schools.
Once you move to anywhere with those you're joining a community and accepting the responsibility it entails.
The Cellar hasnt been much joy for UT for a while now -
Thanks D for giving it some context.
It's not fair of me to bring up my general beefs. But I should say that the jaminhealth situation was only a small signal of the weariness I have had for a long while. Just doesn't net out fun anymore
I'm pretty sure it is me who has changed. "It's not you, it's me."
And there's this: 30 years is enough, man. Hell, my average stay with an employer is 3 years. There's nothing else I've done for such a long time.
The thing is - most of us can come and go - take a break for a while and then come back. Difficult to break away when you need to if you are ultimately responsible for the site
I hope you'll stick around at the new place - coming and going without the albatross around your neck.
And where nobody will be weird around you because you are the owner.
There's nothing else I've done for such a long time.
Masturbate.
I second what Dana and Glatt say. This must be very tough for you, UT, even if it’s also high time.
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Poppycock, if you were a free man you wouldn't be here, because you'd be off the grid with no connection, no sewer, no water, no power, no schools.
Once you move to anywhere with those you're joining a community and accepting the responsibility it entails.
what is freedom to you? what you describe sounds a lot like license...a child's notion of freedom (
golly gee wilikers, I can't wait till I grow up! then I can do whatever I want to!)
freedom is self-direction & self-responsibility; it's about choice & consequence
it's deliberation (self de-liberation)
Thanks D for giving it some context.
It's not fair of me to bring up my general beefs. But I should say that the jaminhealth situation was only a small signal of the weariness I have had for a long while. Just doesn't net out fun anymore
I'm pretty sure it is me who has changed. "It's not you, it's me."
And there's this: 30 years is enough, man. Hell, my average stay with an employer is 3 years. There's nothing else I've done for such a long time.
as I say: good luck with whatever comes next, toad... :thumbsup:
So, like... If you miss it, you could just turn it back on?
Well no. That would take like 3 days.
Maybe 4 at your age
The masturbating?
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Well now I am in a melancholy mood. Not that I wasn't already. *cough*
Well, Mr Pastrami, these boards will remain as an archive, and you are very welcome at the new place (
https://cellar.boardhost.com/index.php). Please do come on over.
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And there's this: 30 years is enough, man. Hell, my average stay with an employer is 3 years. There's nothing else I've done for such a long time.
I salute you, sir! There's crap on this series of interconnected tubes that's disappeared, that's less than five years old. Hell, some of it less than two. You've gone far above and beyond any reasonable length of time for a venture like this, and you've done yeoman's work these past decades to keep it going. And that's true regardless of what your reason for shutting things down is.
I salute you, sir! There's crap on this series of interconnected tubes that's disappeared, that's less than five years old. Hell, some of it less than two. You've gone far above and beyond any reasonable length of time for a venture like this, and you've done yeoman's work these past decades to keep it going. And that's true regardless of what your reason for shutting things down is.
Agreed!
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