it's the end of the world as we know it and I don't feel fine

Flint • Sep 9, 2020 4:44 pm
The air is filled with a thick, pungent smoke that turns everything a hazy shade of yellow.
It looks like the apocalypse, and it fits perfectly with the way everything feels.

We just shrug and say, "this is the new norm" . . .
tw • Sep 9, 2020 5:31 pm
Which fire is your potential new neighbor?
Clodfobble • Sep 9, 2020 5:35 pm
Thing is, it actually should have been the norm (or close to it) for the last hundred years or so. I just read a great in-depth article about how the west coast ecology is supposed to burn--there are literal plants that have evolved to only sprout after going through a fire season--and we know this, but because 1.) fire suppression is big business and 2.) residents always fight against controlled burns because they make the air a little smoggy for a few days, the fuel surplus is now well beyond control. California burns 20,000 acres a year, when they should be burning a million in order to keep the ecology in balance. That deficit has been building and building, and one way or another, it's all going to burn off eventually.
Flint • Sep 9, 2020 5:48 pm
tw;1057755 wrote:
Which fire is your potential new neighbor?


None of the fires are very close to me, but there's a lot of them, and high winds pushing the smoke out to the coast. Cities 2-3 hours from me are evacuating.
Flint • Sep 9, 2020 5:49 pm
Clodfobble;1057756 wrote:
Thing is, it actually should have been the norm (or close to it) for the last hundred years or so. I just read a great in-depth article about how the west coast ecology is supposed to burn--there are literal plants that have evolved to only sprout after going through a fire season--and we know this, but because 1.) fire suppression is big business and 2.) residents always fight against controlled burns because they make the air a little smoggy for a few days, the fuel surplus is now well beyond control. California burns 20,000 acres a year, when they should be burning a million in order to keep the ecology in balance. That deficit has been building and building, and one way or another, it's all going to burn off eventually.


The Native Americans knew this, they tried to tell us we needed to do controlled burns.
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 9, 2020 9:41 pm
Indians burned the prairies so the Buffalo would have fresh grass.

A guy in San Francisco said today the day sky was orange and a lot of soot was falling but couldn't smell it.
Another guy near Portland said orange sky and strong smell but no soot.
Ibby • Sep 9, 2020 9:54 pm
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Ibby • Sep 9, 2020 10:01 pm
(though i would be remiss not to post the 2016 update:
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Gravdigr • Sep 9, 2020 10:13 pm
They shot a gorilla


:lol2:
Ibby • Sep 10, 2020 8:43 pm
Clackamas county fire is pulling out.

Ccom repeating message. This is a critical safety message. This is a historic fire event. Large plume driven fire. Deploy spotters, find safety zones, take stock of resources, find safety zones outside of the cities. Discontinue ALL firefighting activity and encourage citizen evacuation as you leave. Once you've reached your safety zones contact command.

Crews are evacuating from Clackamas fires at this time


there's prettymuch an unbroken line of fire across the west coast right now. about a thousand miles.

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five or six of the ten largest fires in california history are burning right now.

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xoxoxoBruce • Sep 10, 2020 9:08 pm
It's grim...
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 11, 2020 3:31 am
♫ Flying over Rockies they’re looking mighty fine
Here comes the Cascades just like a dotted line
The Sierra Nevadas outline the South Cal hoards
♪ Here come aircraft bright colored chems on board
The fire dudes arrive, running the wrong way
Just one thing in common on all minds today
♫ We see from way up high
They got the fire down below
Griff • Sep 11, 2020 7:09 am
NASA
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/147261/a-wall-of-smoke-on-the-us-west-coast
Flint • Sep 11, 2020 4:08 pm
This was-- staring directly at the sun, at 10am yesterday morning.
Griff • Sep 11, 2020 6:00 pm
Oof.
Flint • Sep 11, 2020 6:13 pm
Flint;1057892 wrote:
This was-- staring directly at the sun, at 10am yesterday morning.


Griff;1057893 wrote:
Oof.



Yep, if you're anywhere West of a fire, the sky really is the color that it looks like on that weather map.
BigV • Sep 11, 2020 10:00 pm
We're on a road trip. We're visiting Fort Columbia. Here's the view from our porch. The Columbia River is about 300 yards in the distance. You barely discern where the water defines the horizon.
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On the way down here we came through Aberdeen and this is a view of the giant bridge between Aberdeen and Astoria.
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This picture gives a sense of scale with the oncoming traffic.
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Remember this picture?
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tw • Sep 12, 2020 2:36 am
Plenty of clouds. And no rain.
Griff • Sep 12, 2020 8:20 am
Y'all are ruining the West. Our trip to Western Canada last year had these kinds of views, not great.
Undertoad • Sep 12, 2020 9:44 am
By "y'all" I assume you mean gender reveal partiers
BigV • Sep 12, 2020 11:38 am
tw;1057910 wrote:
Plenty of clouds. And no rain.


There are no clouds (or rain) in these pictures I just posted, the sky is filled with smoke.
BigV • Sep 12, 2020 11:43 am
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Remember this picture?
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Found it.

BigV;1001934 wrote:
Well Carruthers, welcome to the club.

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Take a bough.
Griff • Sep 12, 2020 12:49 pm
Undertoad;1057923 wrote:
By "y'all" I assume you mean gender reveal partiers


Gender reveal partiers are a subset of humanity so... (I may have just opted out of humanity.)
DanaC • Sep 12, 2020 2:03 pm
This thread title would make a kickass name for a book

I know its a play on the song title, but for a zompoc book its perfect
Gravdigr • Sep 12, 2020 3:55 pm
I tripped over 'zompoc' for a second or two before I got to zombie 'pocalypse.

:)
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 13, 2020 1:59 am
I wonder if the clouds are so heavy with soot/carbon they don't want to go higher?
DanaC • Sep 13, 2020 3:41 am
Gravdigr;1057949 wrote:
I tripped over 'zompoc' for a second or two before I got to zombie 'pocalypse.

:)


:)

Zompoc fiction is like 90% of my reading these days
sexobon • Sep 13, 2020 5:56 pm
Are you ready for Zompoc Barbie?

Well kinda, sorta, maybe, not so much...

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Mattel's latest Barbie Dia De Muertos, inspired by Mexico's Day of the Dead tradition, is back.

With a delicate lace gown and face painted in typical "calavera" (Spanish for "skull") style, this Barbie is the second installation in the company's La Catrina collection, which began in 2019.

Día de los Muertos, or "Day of the Dead," is a centuries-old Mexican folk tradition celebrated during the first two days of November.

Families visit graveyards to remember their departed loved ones and to remind themselves that death is nothing to fear.

People also build altars to welcome the spirit of the deceased back for one night, adorning them with photos, mementos and traditional elements like "pan de muerto" (bread of the dead), sugar skulls and marigolds. ...
Griff • Sep 17, 2020 7:06 am
https://apnews.com/f36aead1c4117fb54f2b821bcb29ee8a

The smoke from dozens of wildfires in the western United States is stretching clear across the country — and even pushing into Mexico, Canada and Europe. While the dangerous plumes are forcing people inside along the West Coast, residents thousands of miles away in the East are seeing unusually hazy skies and remarkable sunsets.
glatt • Sep 17, 2020 12:07 pm
Yeah. Super red sun yesterday morning. No clouds in the sky. Just a high haze.

Overcast today, so I don't see any smoke.
fargon • Sep 17, 2020 12:17 pm
It's a light haze here and my eyes hurt.
BigV • Sep 17, 2020 1:07 pm
Still quite smoky and foggy here. This is from about 9 am this morning. The sun is that bright ish spot among the power lines.

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xoxoxoBruce • Sep 19, 2020 3:32 am
Woman in Oregon puts a furnace filter on a box fan to catch dog hair.
This is what it looked like the second day from smoke.
Urbane Guerrilla • Sep 22, 2020 5:58 pm
BigV;1058165 wrote:
Still quite smoky and foggy here. This is from about 9 am this morning. The sun is that bright ish spot among the power lines.

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Well, V, can you get your new Seattle Anarchist overlords to quit lighting stuff?
BigV • Sep 22, 2020 6:15 pm
*ahem*

your.... ignorance is showing.


no evidence of a sense of humor though.
Gravdigr • Sep 22, 2020 8:37 pm
Yeah, V, just get yer buddies to quit lightin the fires, man, sheesh...
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 22, 2020 10:11 pm
BigV;1058420 wrote:
*ahem*

your.... ignorance is showing.


no evidence of a sense of humor though.


The scary part is he believes it. :rolleyes:
Griff • Sep 23, 2020 7:15 am
NYC pretty much the world capital of capitalism made the short list as well. It is to laugh.