ADK, Wilmington

We had a very nice week on the Ausable River. Hiking, biking, kayaking, fishing, eating, swimming, yard gaming, indoor gaming... was nice to see the girls and their lads.

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Beautiful! I have major envy. And wanderlust. Did you rent a cabin?

We rented a house within the town limits. Nice yard, river frontage, and a central location. We're real estate shopping in that area.

[COLOR="White"]Better human being to Trumper ratio in that neighborhood. [/COLOR][COLOR="White"]
They are there but don't have any "silent majority" misconceptions. It's kind of jarring to return home to miles of Trump flags and yard signs from the NY state line down...[/COLOR]

Beautiful!
I had to look it up. Au Sable = on the sand.

Neat. The river bottom is sand as are most of the soils there.

Which Wilminton?

Griff;1055378 wrote:

We rented a house within the town limits. Nice yard, river frontage, and a central location. We're real estate shopping in that area.

[COLOR="White"]Better human being to Trumper ratio in that neighborhood. [/COLOR][COLOR="White"]
They are there but don't have any "silent majority" misconceptions. It's kind of jarring to return home to miles of Trump flags and yard signs from the NY state line down...[/COLOR]

Better there than on the VT side?
Yeah, PA is fucked up. I guess that's why PA is #1 for hate groups. :o

tw;1055394 wrote:

Which Wilminton?

Wilmington, NY near White Face Mtn.

xoxoxoBruce;1055412 wrote:

Better there than on the VT side?
Yeah, PA is fucked up. I guess that's why PA is #1 for hate groups. :o

We're keeping an open mind about Vermont, but we have a deep affection for the High Peaks region of New York. A liberal friend from Vermont did point out that the left can be pretty annoying in the Green Mountain State.

PA can grab up all those worst indicators. We're gunning for Mississippi's spot they seem to be going soft on heritage down there.

that looks like a fun spot.

You look correctly. Wilmington has a mtn bike culture which is a big plus for me.

Griff;1055428 wrote:

Wilmington, NY near White Face Mtn.


We're keeping an open mind about Vermont, but we have a deep affection for the High Peaks region of New York. A liberal friend from Vermont did point out that the left can be pretty annoying in the Green Mountain State.

PA can grab up all those worst indicators. We're gunning for Mississippi's spot they seem to be going soft on heritage down there.

OMG Since I've been dating a woman from southern VT I've been reminded of just how deeply the "alternative roots" go in that state, despite having a republican governor.



Not my GF so much but all the providers. Even the veterinarians are alternative. Dog has obvious arthritis and hip problems? Here try these glucosamine chews for two months and if that doesn't help... In NY my friend who is a vet would be more "let's see how we can help fido be in fewer pain" (they get less and fewer mixed up here)


She went to a doc about some musculoskeletal issue and the regualr MD from the hospital danced all around it with a reluctance to use anything but an ultrasound. CF in NY, they follow the old 1,2,3 protocol: Steroid injection, then if no improvement PT, then MRI. (In my opinion they should just jump to MRI, but no one asked me.


So, while Vermont does have a lot to offer you have to decide what flavor wingnut you can deal with. New York will tax you mercilessly to keep the hulking Albany bureaucracy afloat while giving you in return almost nothing.


Vermont gives full time residents a state income tax rebate to somewhat offset sales tax which you shouldn't need to pay since you live there. They also did a complete Lead remediation for some friends of mine and put them up in a hotel while the work was being done. NY on the other hand compelled me to spend over $30k doing lead remediation. It would have been much more but I got certified and did the work myself.


There are pros and cons to each state.


Oh, and if you are buying land in Vermont in places that resemble the adirindacks, stay away from anything within 75 miles of a ski mountain or all your neighbors will be 3rd homer hedge fund managers.

That's good insight man, thank you for that.

Don't forget the value of being able to say you're from VT instead of NY. :lol:
The main thing is to escape where you are.

Griff, you and Pete are an asset to any community you're in. Even, no, especially if your point of view is of the minority. Perhaps you can make the biggest and best impact where you are now, "behind enemy lines", so to speak.

Wherever you go, there you are.

Kindly said and moving isn’t a done deal. It is an appropriate time to consider options.

A friend from the County Seat used to talk about how anti-everything this county is. Lately I’m seeing what he was seeing.

FWIW, when the kids fledge I plan to sell this place and move to VT.

What part of VT? NE Kingdom seems attractive but it is a long way from my kids. Southern VT seems pretty pricey but if your woman is already established it seems nice.