COV shutdown will tell us a lot about CO2

Undertoad • Apr 1, 2020 11:05 am
I just realized - we're seeing clear skies in Chinese and Indian cities, clear water in Venice, etc. The pollution has ramped way down for a quarter -- and we are going to learn a bunch of things! Will the Mauna Loa CO2 graph be affected? This should tell us a lot about how much current CO2 in the atmosphere is man-made and what efforts to curtail it will do.
Griff • Apr 1, 2020 11:35 am
Yeah, that part of this is pretty interesting. The data could prove useful. Work from home may end up being a thing to watch as well.
Flint • Apr 1, 2020 1:48 pm
Apparently Attila the Hun's conquest killed 40 million people, or 11% of the world's population, and enough to cause a change in the global CO2 level. According to some documentary I was watching on Hulu.
Dude111 • Apr 12, 2020 5:35 pm
Gov Cuomo says it is a preparation drill going on...

www.bitchute.com/video/QifJjdUVmSTt

Whatever it is,its a nightmare!!
BigV • Apr 12, 2020 5:51 pm
wtf.

Have you heard of YouTube?
Dude111 • Apr 12, 2020 10:27 pm
Here it is on Cuomos own site

www.governor.ny.gov/news/video-audio-photos-rush-transcript-amid-ongoing-covid-19-andemic-governor-cuomo-announces-10

Its a stretch but it is kinda suspicious when he talks about "Preperation Drill" -- This was on another site saying this going on now is a drill and it is kinda suspicious reading

...What do we do now? Well, we need to do more testing and more advanced testing and we have to do it faster. That's both the diagnostic testing, that's the anti-body testing. We have to get better at both and we have to be able to create a higher volume faster. We have to be more prepared. We should never go through what we went through on this preparation drill. The federal stimulus bill is going to be key...
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 13, 2020 12:05 am
It's true that better faster testing is a very potent tool against pandemics, places like Singapore have proven it works.
Dude111 • Apr 13, 2020 5:17 am
Well from the way he says "We should never go through what we went through on this preparation drill." it sounds like its almost over....... LETS HOPE IT IS!!!!!!!!

This has been a nightmare.......
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 13, 2020 9:40 am
We should be better prepared, masks, ventilators, capability, public aware of what to do when the news comes. This has been a drill, a learning curve for the future. The obits in yesterdays Boston Globe ran 11 pages.
Dude111 • Apr 13, 2020 3:10 pm
I think its interesting they removed that page I posted above from Cuomos site!!!

They realised they shouldnt have admitted it was a drill........


I tell ya,people are really something else........ ANYONE THAT CANT SEE SOMETHING SUSPICIOUS GOING ON.......
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 13, 2020 5:33 pm
WTF, every flood, famine, plague is a drill to see what goes wrong, what could have been better preparation to not make the same mistakes in the future. That doesn't make it a conspiracy, it's what smart agencies do.
glatt • Apr 13, 2020 5:51 pm
Yeah. But big government. Cut those agencies. It’s been 10 years since the last disaster. It won’t happen again.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 13, 2020 5:58 pm
I said smart, not Federal. :lol:
But you're right I'm sure all the agencies go through that post mortem of events, but then politicians come along and kill or at least castrate the agencies.
Urbane Guerrilla • Apr 19, 2020 7:04 pm
Flint;1049929 wrote:
Apparently Attila the Hun's conquest killed 40 million people, or 11% of the world's population, and enough to cause a change in the global CO2 level. According to some documentary I was watching on Hulu.

I guess dead men *don't* exhale. Daang.

Well, not more than once.
Urbane Guerrilla • Apr 19, 2020 7:10 pm
glatt;1050849 wrote:
Yeah. But big government. Cut those agencies. It’s been 10 years since the last disaster. It won’t happen again.


There's an imperative here that professionally-run agencies observe with some faith -- apart from permanently seeking a larger slice of budget pie on the chart, there is the imperative to get the most bang out of every budget dollar they actually get.

Absolute, law-of-gravity adherence to these isn't going to happen, but the nearer they approach either or both, the better run the agency.
tw • Apr 19, 2020 8:28 pm
Undertoad;1049919 wrote:
I just realized - we're seeing clear skies in Chinese and Indian cities, clear water in Venice, etc.
In America, Nitrogen Oxide levels have decreased (last I saw) by 30%. That means clearer skys. Any numbers for CO2? I have not seen any. CO2 does not affect visibility.
BigV • Apr 20, 2020 1:55 pm
Free-Falling: U.S. Oil Drops Below $3 Per Barrel As Demand Disappears
A key U.S. benchmark hit single digits for the first time in many decades, then kept plummeting, with oil selling for less than $3 a barrel. At the start of 2020, a barrel cost around $60.


WOW.


Holy shit. When I found this headline, it said $3 a barrel, when I composed the post and clicked through to the story the headline had been updated to $2 a barrel. That's a LOT of CO2 staying in the ground. Less than $2 a barrel.
Clodfobble • Apr 20, 2020 1:58 pm
The irony is that if/when local gas stations start going out of business, it will become much harder for the average suburbanite to get what gas they do need.
BigV • Apr 20, 2020 2:56 pm
Clodfobble;1051261 wrote:
The irony is that if/when local gas stations start going out of business, it will become much harder for the average suburbanite to get what gas they do need.


Thank you Clodfobble for the reminder to take all my portable gas containers with me to be refilled when I go on a raiding party for toilet paper.
BigV • Apr 20, 2020 5:07 pm
BigV;1051260 wrote:
Free-Falling: U.S. Oil Drops Below $3 Per Barrel As Demand Disappears


WOW.


Holy shit. When I found this headline, it said $3 a barrel, when I composed the post and clicked through to the story the headline had been updated to $2 a barrel. That's a LOT of CO2 staying in the ground. Less than $2 a barrel.


Here's the headline now, 2:06 pm PST:

Free Fall: Oil Prices Go Negative
April 20, 202011:21 AM ET


just fuckin wow.

The key U.S. oil benchmark, West Texas Intermediate, settled at negative $37.63.

Driven by a trading contract deadline, traders desperately looked for buyers for the barrels of oil they normally hold in their books. But buyers were hard to find — even when the oil was being given away for free.

So some traders, instead of paying to buy oil, were ready to pay as much as $37.63 to get someone to accept delivery of one barrel of oil.
tw • Apr 21, 2020 7:43 pm
BigV;1051271 wrote:
... take all my portable gas containers with me to be refilled when I go on a raiding party for toilet paper.


Save the economy. Buy massive amounts of gasoline to create a gigantic toilet paper fire. Then oil companies and toilet paper manufacturers will be saved by all that new business.

Then start a recycling business. Collect unused Covid-19 to burn in those oil fires. Another economic solution. Imagine that. It was proposed in the Cellar before The Don could tweet it.
Dude111 • Apr 22, 2020 1:05 am
People dont realise how this is gonna hurt the economy!!
tw • Apr 22, 2020 9:10 am
Dude111;1051363 wrote:
People dont realise how this is gonna hurt the economy!!
Low income people (and their landlords) are probably very aware.
Urbane Guerrilla • May 10, 2020 11:03 pm
Welp, prices did not stay in the Land Of Surreal long. West Texas Intermediate 42 gallon barrel is $24-and-change, change maybe depending on which hour of the day you averaged.

With a buyer's market like that -- the Strategic Petroleum Reserve did not miss the opportunity -- a V-shaped economic recovery looms. Except in choke-collared places like New York, New Jersey and California, dammit.