acquitted

henry quirk • Feb 5, 2020 4:45 pm
:thumbsup:
Luce • Feb 5, 2020 4:53 pm
henry quirk;1046064 wrote:
:thumbsup:


Fantastic. Now a president can do whatever he or she likes, no matter what.
sexobon • Feb 5, 2020 4:54 pm
If the Democratic party of Iowa had been running the vote, we would never have found out.
henry quirk • Feb 5, 2020 5:02 pm
Luce;1046065 wrote:
Fantastic. Now a president can do whatever he or she likes, no matter what.


Probably not.
Luce • Feb 5, 2020 5:03 pm
henry quirk;1046067 wrote:
Probably not.


Absolutely. Hell, Ford pardoning Nixon doubled the power of the executive branch.

This more or less makes it unlimited.
henry quirk • Feb 5, 2020 5:04 pm
sexobon;1046066 wrote:
If the Democratic party of Iowa had been running the vote, we would never have found out.


:thumbsup:
henry quirk • Feb 5, 2020 5:04 pm
Luce;1046068 wrote:
Absolutely. Hell, Ford pardoning Nixon doubled the power of the executive branch.

This more or less makes it unlimited.


Nah.
Gravdigr • Feb 5, 2020 6:41 pm
sexobon;1046066 wrote:
If the Democratic party of Iowa had been running the vote, we would never have found out.


Heh...
Happy Monkey • Feb 5, 2020 7:05 pm
Linking threads
henry quirk • Feb 5, 2020 7:56 pm
Happy Monkey;1046077 wrote:
Linking threads
Happy Monkey • Feb 5, 2020 8:14 pm
I don't think anyone expected any Republicans to break ranks. Mitt was a surprise.
henry quirk • Feb 5, 2020 8:28 pm
Happy Monkey;1046083 wrote:
I don't think anyone expected any Republicans to break ranks. Mitt was a surprise.


Mitt is about as much a Repub as Joe Scarborough was a Repub.

That's sumthin' they have in common with Trump: RINO.
tw • Feb 5, 2020 9:38 pm
henry quirk;1046084 wrote:
Henry is more honest.


He again and intentionally quotes "out of context". A characteristic also found in the Nazi party. Henry is more honest (only about that one point) than Trump. And since Trump lies like Hitler, what does that really say about Henry? Oh, he forget to mention that was the point. It is what extremists do.

Who lies more? The Don or Henry? By numbers - the Don. By percentage? Hard to say.
henry quirk • Feb 5, 2020 9:53 pm
tw;1046089 wrote:
He again and intentionally quotes "out of context". A characteristic also found in the Nazi party. Henry is more honest (only about that one point) than Trump. And since Trump lies like Hitler, what does that really say about Henry? Oh, he forget to mention that was the point. It is what extremists do.

Who lies more? The Don or Henry? By numbers - the Don. By percentage? Hard to say.


fixed it, just for you
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 6, 2020 12:13 am
Henry doesn't lie. He isn't always right or wrong, but I firmly believe he says what he believes. :yesnod:
Griff • Feb 6, 2020 7:18 am
henry quirk;1046084 wrote:
Mitt is about as much a Repub as Joe Scarborough was a Repub.

That's sumthin' they have in common with Trump: RINO.


Mitt is what Republican was. Now Republican is whatever Trump is.
sexobon • Feb 6, 2020 7:32 am
Tw doesn't fool us, he's secretly rejoicing in that he has more time to get on Trump's list.
Griff • Feb 6, 2020 7:35 am
He'll make it, he just needs to buckle down.
Luce • Feb 6, 2020 10:05 am
Griff;1046120 wrote:
Mitt is what Republican was. Now Republican is whatever Trump is.



Boom.
henry quirk • Feb 6, 2020 10:14 am
Griff;1046120 wrote:
Mitt is what Republican was. Now Republican is whatever Trump is.


Both: 'in name only'.
henry quirk • Feb 6, 2020 10:15 am
xoxoxoBruce;1046105 wrote:
Henry doesn't lie. He isn't always right or wrong, but I firmly believe he says what he believes. :yesnod:


:thumbsup:
Undertoad • Feb 6, 2020 10:31 am
Republican is now whatever Trump is; also, Democratic is now whatever Trump isn't.

Also it's high school all over again, forever. The cool kids. The drama. The cliques.
Luce • Feb 6, 2020 12:03 pm
Undertoad;1046137 wrote:
Republican is now whatever Trump is; also, Democratic is now whatever Trump isn't.

Also it's high school all over again, forever. The cool kids. The drama. The cliques.


Welcome to 2,000,000 years of primate pack politics.
Happy Monkey • Feb 6, 2020 12:51 pm
henry quirk;1046133 wrote:
Both: 'in name only'.
How does one get vetted for "in fact" if winning the Republican primary isn't sufficient?
Luce • Feb 6, 2020 1:41 pm
Happy Monkey;1046142 wrote:
How does one get vetted for "in fact" if winning the Republican primary isn't sufficient?


Well, first you have to remain orthodox to the Church of Trump.

If Trump moves away from traditional republican values, you have to move with him, because Trump is the only current republican value.
Happy Monkey • Feb 6, 2020 2:05 pm
henry is saying Trump doesn't count either.
sexobon • Feb 6, 2020 5:18 pm
The important thing to take away from this acquittal is that we'll continue seeing Ivanka to relish her beauty and keep her up on her pedestal. I'd bang her if I could; but, I wouldn't want to listen to her talk...that's what her husband is for. A man has got to have his priorities. I just want to admire her from afar; or, from behind if I can find us a way to ditch the Secret Service. Some of them though, like me, are former SFers which makes planning difficult. I might need another four years to work out the details.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 6, 2020 5:23 pm
You can have her I like women less plastic, more human, and with better taste.
sexobon • Feb 6, 2020 5:37 pm
Awhile ago, I read an article in which Rosie O'Donnell said, after meeting Ivanka, that Ivanka was the most beautiful woman she had ever seen. Rosie's a lesbian; so, she would know. I'm sure Ivanka tastes just fine.
henry quirk • Feb 6, 2020 7:26 pm
Happy Monkey;1046149 wrote:
henry is saying Trump doesn't count either.


Exactly.

Trump is a non-idealogical state-capitalist usin' Repub machinery.

Rand Paul is a consequentialist libertarian usin' Repub machinery.

buhbuhBernie is a communist, er, democratic socislist (state socialist) usin' Dem machinery.

Mitt is a evangelical sumthin' or other usin' Repub mschinery.

Bill & Hill: a hedonist and an opportunist usin' Dem machinery.

Really, as I think on it, conventional Repub/Dem ideology really doesn't mean much for any of the elected folks. It's just labels to them.
Happy Monkey • Feb 6, 2020 7:44 pm
If everyone is "in name only" then it doesn't really say anything when you apply it to a particular person.
henry quirk • Feb 6, 2020 9:13 pm
Happy Monkey;1046162 wrote:
If everyone is "in name only" then it doesn't really say anything when you apply it to a particular person.


Tell that to all the voters who take R/D ideology seriously, who work overtime to shoehorn themselves and candidates into those boxes.

Those who rule: play the polar game to get, and stay, elected.

Those who are ruled: actually take the poles seriously.
Luce • Feb 7, 2020 11:10 am
henry quirk;1046160 wrote:
Exactly.

Trump is a non-idealogical state-capitalist usin' Repub machinery.

Rand Paul is a consequentialist libertarian usin' Repub machinery.

buhbuhBernie is a communist, er, democratic socislist (state socialist) usin' Dem machinery.

Mitt is a evangelical sumthin' or other usin' Repub mschinery.

Bill & Hill: a hedonist and an opportunist usin' Dem machinery.

Really, as I think on it, conventional Repub/Dem ideology really doesn't mean much for any of the elected folks. It's just labels to them.


The machinery exists to be used.
henry quirk • Feb 8, 2020 4:14 pm
Luce;1046187 wrote:
The machinery exists to be used.


By whom, for whom?

(or is it: By who, for who? meh)
Luce • Feb 9, 2020 2:38 am
henry quirk;1046234 wrote:
By whom, for whom?

(or is it: By who, for who? meh)


By politicians, for lobbyists.

And there is not a single federal level politician or appointee that doesn't understand this.
henry quirk • Feb 10, 2020 12:38 pm
Luce;1046256 wrote:
By politicians, for lobbyists.

And there is not a single federal level politician or appointee that doesn't understand this.


Strange: I thought it was supposed to be by the people, for the people.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 10, 2020 1:05 pm
That can only happen if the people give a rats ass and participate, but they've delegated that power to the political hacks.
fargon • Feb 10, 2020 1:09 pm
What Bruce said.
Luce • Feb 10, 2020 1:50 pm
henry quirk;1046344 wrote:
Strange: I thought it was supposed to be by the people, for the people.


I suppose that works, if you also believe in the tooth fairy and the immaculate conception of Ayn Rand.
henry quirk • Feb 11, 2020 12:58 pm
Luce;1046352 wrote:
I suppose that works, if you also believe in the tooth fairy and the immaculate conception of Ayn Rand.


you mean the tooth fairy is a lie and ayn didn't descend from heaven?

i am broken :cry:
henry quirk • Feb 11, 2020 1:00 pm
xoxoxoBruce;1046346 wrote:
That can only happen if the people give a rats ass and participate, but they've delegated that power to the political hacks.


gotta give 'em a reason to give a shit

if everything is provided, folks get fat and stupid

look out your window...or, mebbe, in your mirror... :shock:
Luce • Feb 12, 2020 9:18 am
henry quirk;1046397 wrote:
gotta give 'em a reason to give a shit

if everything is provided, folks get fat and stupid

look out your window...or, mebbe, in your mirror... :shock:


Balls.

"Everything" is provided, so I can run my department at work without having to spend all my time learning how to install a road, etc, and YOU get to go to work knowing that runoff from our factory isn't going into your drinking water.
henry quirk • Feb 12, 2020 12:31 pm
yep, I got a big brassy pair.
henry quirk • Feb 12, 2020 12:32 pm
no

it's paid for
Urbane Guerrilla • Feb 23, 2020 5:51 pm
henry quirk;1046165 wrote:
Tell that to all the voters who take R/D ideology seriously, who work overtime to shoehorn themselves and candidates into those boxes.

Those who rule: play the polar game to get, and stay, elected.

Those who are ruled: actually take the poles seriously.


I cannot escape a vision of small teams of Ursus maritimus knocking soccer balls around...

C'mon, Henry -- you know full well Ayn Rand, Jewess, crawled out from under Soviet oppression by passenger ship in the 1920's. I guess they hadn't developed refuseniki yet...
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 13, 2020 1:58 am
Who's your savior, Baby...
tw • Mar 13, 2020 10:43 am
He's sitting on that solid gold toilet again.