Mueller Report
You can get it here...
https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf
This is what it looks like redacted...
Now maybe we can move on to more pressing matters like spying with no legal probable cause.
Report comes out. Everybody ignores what they don't want to know.
"Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."
The Russians were invested in wrecking our election. "The investigation ... identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump campaign," the report states. "Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency ... the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election activities."
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019/04/18/Mueller-report-details-2-year-investigation-weighed-10-cases-of-potential-obstruction/7951555554837/
Mueller refers to
10 times where Trump asked people around him to engage in activities which could be obstruction.
The only coordination we know about was Trump asking the Russians on national television to interfere.
We are left with the same political situation. I think Pelosi will prevent a vote on impeachment in the hopes that 2020 goes ok.
Now maybe we can move on to more pressing matters like spying with no legal probable cause.
FISA found probable cause, or there wouldn't have been an investigation
FISA found probable cause, or there wouldn't have been an investigation
Yes, that's the
legal procedure. We'll see.
Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.
The same would be true for any one of us. It is a basic logic problem: it is impossible to prove a negative.
That's one of the reasons why conspiracy theory takes hold.
It's ALWAYS fully possible to have any number of unanswered questions - questions that, even, can NEVER be answered.
But it's important to remember at all times: unanswered questions are not a proof of anything....Mueller refers to 10 times where Trump asked people around him to engage in activities which could be obstruction...
Why would you guess that they didn't indict? If there was an indictment or recommendation in the report, could Barr have hidden it without Mueller leaking or holding a press conference exposing that?
Same question - Rosenstein?
What would Mueller have to gain by not indicting if evidence exists? Being the hero of 150 million people that hate Trump?
A lot of people here are chasing Elvis. The chances of a reversal here are waning.
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Aha! There's your collusion.
Let's see them prove otherwise.
Why would you guess that they didn't indict?
He believes that authority lies with Congress.
No collusion.
Insufficient evidence to determine obstruction.
Two-plus years, millions spent, dedicated professional investigators = nuthin', nuthin', and nuthin'.
Whole whack of folks ought to be demandin' their money back cuz the First Act blew big steamin' chunks.
Second act: (more) propaganda-makin', impeachment whoop-de-doo.
Third Act: repubs retake the house, Trump keeps the Big Chair for four more.
Epilog: 2024
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Sure: a lotta lil fishies got fried, but the Daddy Cat is still swimmin', dodgin' desperately laid hooks. Fishermen grumble, consider harpoons or dynamite stubbies to get the Daddy Cat up & out. Good luck, fishermen!
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So: what's all this public falderol mean? Not a goddamned thing....it's what's goin' on behind the curtain that matters...really & truly.
Gold & Guns, bitches.
Everyone seems to have forgotten the purpose of this investigation/report.
It's in the title, right on the front page.
Trump is a side show.
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Regardless if you hoped Trump would be found guilty or innocent, the purpose was in the title.
The unstated purpose was to find out how and prevent it in the future.
...Whole whack of folks...
I learned a new use for an old word!
Cool. A little later, Ima smoke me a whack o' weed, and after that Ima drink a whole whack of Sprodka. Maybe two whacks o' Sprodka.
Go, Me, go Me!!!:jig:
"Everyone seems to have forgotten the purpose of this investigation/report."
There's the stated, formal purpose: then there's the real purpose.
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"The unstated purpose was to find out how and prevent it in the future."
So: how does Bob suggest we do that? Surely: his recommendations are listed in the document, yeah?
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"Go, Me, go Me!!!"
:thumbsup:
So you feel since Trump wasn't found guilty you don't care that the Russians (Chinese. Ukrainians, N Koreans, etc) fucked, are fucking, will fuck, with our elections?
They only did that out of desperation because Hillary was running. The whole world was ABC (except for some misguided Americans). Water under the bridge. Reelect Trump, problem solved.
"So you feel since Trump wasn't found guilty..."
First off: he couldn't be 'found guiltly' since, of course, there hasn't been a trial.
Second: as I say, I don't care if Trump is the Devil Hisself. I hired him to be sugar in the gas tank. He's an instrument. Toss him away, folks like me will find another (or, mebbe, we'll just start shootin').
Third: no, I really don't care that 'Russians (Chinese. Ukrainians, N Koreans, etc) fucked, are fucking, will fuck, with our elections'. This is not new or news. Every nation (includin' US) mucks about in other nations' business. We can't stop them (and none of them can stop US). No, the best we can do formally is defend our processes (voting, tabulation, etc.). The best you can do: don't believe everything you read or hear, take it all with more than a grain of salt, be the gatekeeper of your head.
The Russians were/are looking to drive tribalism and create dissent. The election is a great way to do that, when it's an election year.
Intelligencer: More Than Half of Russian Facebook Ads Focused on Race
Fifty-five percent of the ads targeted race, which was also a primary angle for many of the 24 percent of ads that focused on crime or policing. The IRA’s use of divisive racial ads ramped up as Election Day approached in 2016, as well as after Trump was elected. In fact, the vast majority of ads from September 2016 to May 2017 focused on race in one way or another. And while it should be noted that many IRA ads did very poorly with Facebook users, the race-related content performed better on average.
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The ads, which were purchased in rubles using 470 fake accounts and pages, rarely made direct references to Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, or any of the other politicians who ran in the 2016 cycle. (Very few ads targeted swing states, either.) Instead the IRA mostly mimicked the style and tactics of identity groups on opposing sides of the American electorate and tried to reinforce or expand already existing divisions.
Slate: Russian Trolls Were Obsessed With Black Lives MatterToad,
As I say: don't believe everything you read or hear, take it all with more than a grain of salt, be the gatekeeper of your head.
If you don't, if you rely on others to be honest, then -- baby -- you'll be screwed up one side and down the other.
The unfortunate thing: a great many folks can't (or, have been taught to not) gate-keep their own heads. Fodder, is what they are.
Gatekeep = Only believe what you feel jibs with your opinion. :eyebrow:
Certainly a damn-sight better than lapping up crap just cuz some smooth talker tells you it's steak.
But then you never learn anything new.
...my mind is closed, yeah.
don't believe everything you read or hear
Well that was based on the US House Intelligence that released a couple thousand ads that did actually run.
US House Intelligence
Oxymoron territory.
Yes, that's the legal procedure. We'll see.
And how can you see without an investigation?
FISA found probable cause, or there wouldn't have been an investigation
And how can you see without an investigation?
A red herring.
FISA standards are not the same as for criminal cases. Developing information to meet FISA probable cause standards can begin with guilt by association even though that association may turn out to be benign. This allows for the target of a politically motivated investigation to be investigated indirectly, via investigation of FISA qualifying associates, in hopes of uncovering (which hunt) damaging collaterally obtained information about the political target even when the FISA requirements for a direct investigation into that person aren't met.
That's why the investigation was into "Russian Interference" and not Presidential collusion. It enables an
indictment of the political target,
in the court of public opinion, while providing plausible deniability of political motivation. The true nature of the investigation is revealed; however, when adversaries of the political target set aside the investigation's unactionable findings to pursue their own investigations.
FISA has changed substantially since its inception. It's now the political sword of Damocles.
… (which hunt) ...
([strike]which[/strike] witch hunt)
Auto-correct didn't know which witch is which in context.
don't believe everything you read or hear
"Well that was based on the US House Intelligence that released a couple thousand ads that did actually run."
I get that. What I'm sayin', essentially, is just cuz it comes to you by way of FB don't mean it's true. Yeah, you ought to question any- and every-thing comin' to you from government, but I was talkin' about not takin' at face value all that propaganda/advertising on FB or twitter or wikipedia or, well, from any place (or one).
The 12 year old is still wrappin' his head around the idea that the shiny interesting thing he just saw on tv probably isn't as shiny or fun as the commercial makes it out to be. On one level he gets that someone is tryin' to sell him sumthin', but on another, trusting, level he thinks 'they wouldn't lie/mislead me!'.
I think a lot of folks do this: they wisely get that propaganda exists, but foolishly believe the source they favor isn't a propaganda dump.
Me: it's all mindscrew...my default: you're a lyin' sack till I verfy otherwise. Nuthin' wrong with bein' a lyin' sack, by the way, if you're lyin' ways benefit me.
And how can you see without an investigation?
Yes, that's exactly my point. Not another investigation of Trump, a special council to investigate how and when the Mueller independent council was launched.
William Barr,
Lindsey Graham,
Donald Trump,
Devin Nunes and a few million citizens would like some more information on this. You wouldn't deny the American people transparency, would you? Of course this is all crazy talk. We know how the Mueller investigation was launched by the testimony of those involved.
They wouldn't lie,
would they?
All this is just ridiculous, I know. But with all this
investigation going on, what's the harm? Just for giggles? If you've got nothing to hide you have nothing to be concerned with, right?
Now maybe we can move on to more pressing matters like spying with no legal probable cause.
Thats been going on years and I doubt it will ever stop....
Toad,
Don't know if you're laughin' at my presentation, content, or 'me', but: I'm glad to be the one bringin' joy to such a fine, up-standin' citizen... :thumbsup:
Slang,
Exactly right: in light of the various clams made by so many ('the evidence for collusion is obvious'), claims not supported by The Report, seems 'we' need to dig a little into 'why' everyone was so certain Trump was a filthy traitor to Truth, Justice, & The American Way.
Let's investigate the hell out if it!
There's got to be at least two years of mileage we can squeeze outta some thing like that.
..Thats been going on years and I doubt it will ever stop....
Great, I'll just rip up my voter reg card and move out of the country.
Let's investigate the hell out if it!
There's got to be at least two years of mileage we can squeeze outta some thing like that.
Sure, pull everything into an active investigation and silence all those subpena'd by fear of obstruction of justice.
Oh I thought your point was made to me instead of to the average Facebook reader, sorry.
example russian ad from slate
Slang,
I think we're well past obstruction with some of these folks...enough has been said and written by them that testimony would just be gravy on an already tasty bowl of rice.
Toad,
I was talkin' to any one who cared to read.
The ad: that's an example of the vast subverting power of Russia? I can see 14 year olds gettin' all lathered up over it, but adults? C'mon, if that's viable 'interference' that actually moved anyone, then my low opinion of the average person is too damn high.
And: if such tame material actually motivates folks in large numbers then, all is lost (and probably has been for a long time).
If 'that' is sufficient to move folks then mebbe the commies are right: folks really and truly need to ruled and directed, cuz, plainly, the lot are too stupid to see after themselves.
Not that one ad, but similar ads, day after day, hundreds of them, have an effect. Not causing mobs in the street, that's not the intention, they are designed to keep picking at the scab over past racism grievances.
hundreds, thousands, millions: makes no difference
stop watchin' commercials
It's not commercials to stop watching it's not that obvious.
You wouldn't deny the American people transparency, would you?
Absolutely not. Investigate on. Benghazi the hell out of it. Just don't complain at the investigation of the people who started the Benghazi investigation. It's been tit-for-tat since Watergate.
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Watergate's Woodward: FBI, CIA Handling Of Dossier "Needs To Be Investigated"
The Steele Dossier, which may have been ( read was ) used to trigger this whole witch hunt looks a bit like
garbage. And
everyone involved knew it was
before the Mueller probe began.
Say it isn't so Bob. The FBI and the CIA might be weaponized against Trump? Looks like we may need another special council. :yesnod:
Looks like Mr. Schumer knows a bit about how things work
if you aren't onboard with the government's agenda. Not the
People's agenda, the
government's
All sorts of
things could happen to you
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It's ads, yeah?
Sounds like 'commercials' to me.
I don't do facebook but, seems to me, if it comes unbidden to your 'page' or 'feed' then it's advertising; and if it's sumthin' you subscribe to then, at least a little bit, it's on you for willy-nilly invitin' mind-screwers into your 'home'.
Any way: when I think 'interference', I think of muckin' around with actual voting (dead people votin', machines hacked, intentional miscounts, illegal aliens votin', the DNC riggin' the nomination so the guy most dems apparently want is pushed aside to give the nod to the gal most dems apparently don't want, etc.)
Whacky extremist me: I don't see how ads, commercials, etc. constitute interference.
Yes, the great thorn, the grand embarrassment, the boil on don's tush: now it's being labled as russian misinformation.
If a russian fabrication: how was it supposed to hurt clinton and help trump?
Seems to me steele's book report was designed (mebbe by russia) to do the opposite.
So, if this...
"The clandestine influence campaign involved the Internet Research Agency "troll farm" creating thousands of social media accounts that impersonated Americans supporting radical groups, planning and promoting rallies, and reached millions of social media users between 2013 and 2017. According to criminal indictments by the Special Counsel, those messages and activities "spread distrust towards the candidates and the political system in general", for example by discouraging African Americans from voting or by motivating conservative voters wary of Trump."
...was the case, and the steele novella was a russian fiction, then mebbe the point wasn't to generate favor for a candidate but merely to *wreck shit™.
If so: what does this say about americans that **our heads are so easily turned by shallow bamboozlement?
*always a good thing, even when the benefit to me is not up-front
**not me
Because you were looking for somebody to wreck shit while most Americans want someone who won't. That's a much harder quest.
"Because you were looking for somebody to wreck shit while most Americans want someone who won't. That's a much harder quest."
I was lookin' for a very specific kind of wrecker to go to town on a select grade of crap: much harder than pickin' the smoothest talker, most convincing liar, or least offensive parasite.
Well he is special, he said so. :haha:
Yep: a rare kind of blunt instrument.
Because you were looking for somebody to wreck shit while most Americans want someone who won't. That's a much harder quest.
Ding! Ding! Ding! Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
Seriously henry. What is wrong with your brain? You're a laughable caricature. An easily dismissed idiot. You present as a dyed-in-the-wool nutcase/Commie. So much so that completely ignoring your whackadoodle arguments is an obvious no-brainer.
I'd ask why you hate America, but the answer is, you're just a mental midget with a bent for anarchy. Do you honestly expect
anyone to take you seriously?
:crazy:
I hear Stormfront is looking for new recruits.
Well I can see your perspective, but I can't dismiss Henry as just a nut case, simply because there's over a hundred million Americans who agree with him to some degree.
I'm sure he loves his family, not likely to kick puppies, and probably hates his job like most people. Might even be... dare I say it... a nice guy... just misguided. :haha:
[strike]Misguided[/strike] Unconventional seems to be winning the day.
So, because I favor proxies instead of rulers, and true free enterprise instead of state capitalism/socialism, and because I understand gettin' those things won't happen through 'voting', I'm: "a laughable caricature, An easily dismissed idiot, a dyed-in-the-wool nutcase/Commie, a mental midget with a bent for anarchy."
An interesting, though misinformed (perhaps prejudiced) take, glen.
My suggestion: ignore me (as I will you).
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"I can't dismiss Henry as just a nut case, simply because there's over a hundred million Americans who agree with him to some degree."
Not really, no.
But, please, dismiss me, bruce (as I've dismissed you, for a very long time).
Dismissing you would be like dismissing a canary in a coal mine, you might give us a heads up when the revolution happens. :D
Aw c'mon, not even a hint?
obey, consume, conform, and sleep
I do well on the consume, fair on the sleep, not very well on the conform at all.
As for obey, not across the board. Things like drive on the right side of the road I obey, I've got no problem with shit that makes sense.
Other things like paint the house or mow the lawn, homey don't play dat. I buck city hall more than would be smart, but some things I can't accept and willing to suffer the consequences for being a thorn in their butt.
They'll always win, but not always get what they want.
They'll always win, but not always get what they want.
I have some relatives from Tx that have developed great ways of conforming within the law but making TheMan somehow unhappy with their compliance. It's a life skill. :)
Sometimes TheMan re-writes the laws just to stick it to them. Very often they have another course adjustment in the wings just waiting for the that next re-write. Always thinking ahead.
They are simple living blue collar millionaires that keep a big budget for legal "expenses". I know that they have TVs but a good portion of their entertainment time is spent thinking through ways to make TheMan look silly and impotent.
Your description of your micro rebellion with city hall makes me smile.
Makes me think we might be distant relatives too.
Do you have any roots in Tx? Uncle Bruce?
Nope, New England Yankees, immigrants from England in 1630 and Scotland around 1910.
Drove across I-40 one time, got a cousin that moved to Spring, worked at a salt water cooled power plant by Houston for a few weeks, and another plant over near the LA border.
Got a friend in Rowlett who shows up at my house every New Years Eve, a good friend I've never met in Weatherford, and I know of a hot babe in Austin.
Oh, and I got athletes foot at an East Texas motel.
That's all for Texas.
"I do well on the consume, fair on the sleep, not very well on the conform at all. As for obey, not across the board. Things like drive on the right side of the road I obey, I've got no problem with shit that makes sense. Other things like paint the house or mow the lawn, homey don't play dat. I buck city hall more than would be smart, but some things I can't accept and willing to suffer the consequences for being a thorn in their butt. They'll always win, but not always get what they want."
:zzz:
Would you rather I say Fuck you I ain't no sheeple? :haha:
Blumenthal: you gonna give us those notes?
Barr: No.
Blumenthal: Why not?
Barr: Why should I?
:thumbsup:
Barr: Hey Blumenthal, I'm not Sessions. I'm not going to volunteer to put the knife up to my throat so that you can easily slice it.
(mic drop)
Hey Barr, maybe a few months in jail for contempt of congress will convince you. Or maybe the US Attorney of DC will just raid your office and home.
Blumenthal: you gonna give us those notes?
Barr: No.
Blumenthal: Why not?
Barr: Why should I?
:thumbsup:
Not much of a public servant working for the people
sez who?
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"Hey Barr, maybe a few months in jail for contempt of congress will convince you. Or maybe the US Attorney of DC will just raid your office and home."
cuz, we, the rulers, having abandoned our proper role as employees long ago, can't abide any dissent...we call the shots, we make the rules...'the people'? that rabble? they do what we say, when we say...you, Barr, are a unseemly obstacle...persons like yourself cast doubt on us...unacceptable, sir...totally unacceptable
Hey Barr, maybe a few months in jail for contempt of congress will convince you. Or maybe the US Attorney of DC will just raid your office and home.
This is actually a great idea and I hope it is pursued.
There are a lot, say a million people nationwide on the extreme low side, that are watching this whole sedition exercise and asking a lot of questions.
Now, these people are like me, complete morons, but there are significant numbers.
We have a lot of questions from our perspective. I thought this whole charade was about Trump being in league with the Russians to win the election? Did Mueller not prove that was not true?
If Mueller proved this is true, why don't they just arrest all these folks and be done with it?
If Mueller can't legally charge Trump because he is the president, why not charge his kids? Charge
someone, right? Someone relevant.
If Democrats believe that it's the House's constitutional responsibility to oversee the DOJ and interpret Mueller probe and their evidence is solid, why not indict? And arrest?
But back to your point, not indicting but arresting Barr would be a great event for the people.
At that point it would be completely clear beyond any doubt to millions of Trump supporters that if you are opposed to big government and corruption, it makes absolutely no difference who you vote into office. That not only even when you have majorities in all 3, you're not going to be able to steer the government size and policy to your desire as a citizen, smaller government, more freedom ( from government ) and more independence.
That the monster cannot be reversed for certain, but even halted at it's current size and power.
At the point that people ( that aren't Democrats from California ) truly understand that there is no way out of this, that they can arrest Barr and Trump and anyone else that believes as they do, things might change.
If the beast can fabricate a situation where the entire Trump admin can be arrested, what does that mean for little old smaller government you?
What would this mean to your little brain thinking those smaller government thoughts?
It might mean, :lol: and I know this is outright crazy town, that sooner or later you'll be consumed by the beast. Voting doesn't matter.
That may ( or may not ) energize people to resist on a smaller scale with a greater intensity. Why not, you have nothing to lose, you can do anything.
So I do like your suggestion and would like to up it one. Arrest the management and staff Fox News and all similar minded small government websites, Youtube channels and pamphleteers. :D
Create a situation where people will no longer be concerned with their well being, or their home, or their pension or car or anything. Because they know they will lose all of these things in time regardless of their compliance.
And finally, this reaction could be completely symmetrical. Not arresting Barr could very well energize people too. We're in a tough spot as a country.
Not much of a public servant working for the people
Which people? That is the question. ;) Your people or mine?
Spex, my man, it isn't worth it.
Spex, my man, it isn't worth it.
Why isn't it? It's a good idea, arrest Barr. Then Trump and everyone.
You disagree?
Slang,
What I think Griff means: it's not worth it for Spexxvet to argue the point(s) with atavistic me or sensible you.
And: Griff is right. I won't move, you probably won't move, and Spexxvet probably won't move, so...
stalemate
No thank you, I won't be playing.
Oh yes you will; or, we'll hold you in contempt of The Cellar.
Red rover, red rover, send Griff on over.
So many threats, accusations, and speculation. All of this will be settled on 15 May when Mueller testifies before Congress. That should give talk show host, liars, and wild speculators enough time to commit to their opinions. Then we can deal with what he really says.
I wasn't aware a date had been set...gonna be interesting to see how badly the propagandists beat up on him when he doesn't follow the script.
I wasn't aware a date had been set...
It will not be in the Senate. With extremists trying to wreck shit, nobody knows whether a projected date will remain valid in two weeks.
We cannot even admit this president has more respect and admiration for America's adversaries than he does for America's longest time and closest allies. If Richard Nixon can have a Saturday Night Massacre and things were never this contentious, then who knows what will happen next?
The French President recently said Europe needs its own unified military force. He then listed potential adversaries. United States was listed. That is how bad things have become in Washington due to a shortage of moderates in government.
This whole thing is a Chinese finger trap for anti-Trumpers. The harder they work against the trap, the most trapped they are by the trap itself. They get angry and work harder.
It remains a troll Presidency and nobody understands how to fight that. You don't fight trolls by attempting to out-troll them! That is always an utter failure. You fight trolls by ignoring them. You send them to Coventry.
The first mistake is getting angry at the troll. The second mistake is getting angry at the people with you.
"We're stuck in the mud!"
"Well FLOOR IT FOR FUCK'S SAKE!"
"That's not working!"
"SO PUT IT IN REVERSE AND FLOOR IT!"
"Now everything is covered in mud and we're still stuck!"
"THAT'S YOUR FAULT!"
So '15 May' is for House testimony?
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"a troll Presidency"
yes: exactly
So many threats, accusations, and speculation. All of this will be settled on 15 May when Mueller testifies before Congress. That should give talk show host, liars, and wild speculators enough time to commit to their opinions. Then we can deal with what he really says.
Yes, wouldn't it be interesting if IG Horowitz's report came out just before Mueller's testimony? That report that exposes the witch hunt.
You know, the IG report that details all the corruption in the FBI in the lead up to the Mueller probe that was triggered by a fabrication ( Steele dossier).
That would be priceless, ol' Mueller get's his thoughts and papers together on how he's going to put the screws to Barr and Trump but then, uh-oh...
reversal.
Yes, it's just fantasy but Trump's people are getting much better at playing the media game and that is where the opposition has the upper hand. No evidence, mostly media spin. Video clips of Democrats scolding imaginary people in empty chairs.
Trump might even declass and release all the source documents that prove the weaponization. Wow, that'd be funny.
Or maybe they'll just arrest Barr and Trump(s). Any way you watch it, things are getting good. :corn:
No thank you, I won't be playing.
Oh yes you will; or, we'll hold you in contempt of The Cellar.
Red rover, red rover, send Griff on over.
It remains a troll Presidency and nobody understands how to fight that.
It only took like 2 years for UT to get this through my thick head.
I'm sure that there's going to be some counter moves on this because it's a pretty serious situation, but Barr should be arrested
before all this comes to it's conclusion.
It could have some unpleasant effects on those directly or indirectly involved with this witch hunt / soft coup.
"Depending on what Barr finds, his review of the Russia probe could give Trump ammunition to defend himself in continuing congressional inquiries -- and in a potential impeachment for obstructing justice. Barr told senators that Trump’s actions can’t be seen as obstruction if he was exercising his constitutional authority as president to put an end to an >>>>>> [COLOR="Red"]illegitimate[/COLOR] <<<<<< investigation."
It's getting good. Not as good as life would have been without all this sedition but still good. :corn:
… It remains a troll Presidency and nobody understands how to fight that. …
Resistance is futile. They will be assimilated.
The Incredible True Story of the Impeachment Collar Heist
An older aged lawyer and deep state operative named Robert Mueller walked into the US Department of Justice in DC.
He had a multi ream size report in his right hand and a strange bulge under the collar of his shirt. Mueller, 74 and greying, passed Attorney General William Barr a note;
"Here is my report.
Part 1 is what I discovered in the first 2 months of my investigation, no evidence of collusion or obstruction. No indictments. Part 2 is what we are hoping to impeach Trump with. Speculation and embarrassingly biased investigatory work with biased personnel that could never be assembled without recusal if they were investigating a Democrat. Systematically omitting critical information that does not support the narrative that Trump’s guilty" it said. "
We were hoping to keep working on it until November 2020 to keep a cloud over Trump’s presidency. But then you were confirmed." Then he lifted his shirt to reveal a heavy, boxlike device dangling from his neck.
According to the note, it was an impeachment collar. Barr, who told Mueller there was no way he was going to get his 18 pages into the media at that time, filled a few pages with truth—8,702— words and handed it over. Mueller walked out, sucking on a Dum Dum lollipop he grabbed from the counter, hopped into his car, and drove off. He didn't get far. Some 15 minutes later, Christopher Wray spotted Mueller standing outside his Geo Metro in a nearby parking lot, surrounded him, and tossed him to the pavement, cuffing his hands behind his back.
Mueller told the agents that while out on a Uranium One sample delivery he had been accosted by a group of CIA operatives who chained the impeachment collar around his neck at gunpoint and forced him to write his bogus report. "You either take Trump out with a report or the impeachment collar will take YOU out." they told him in a poorly performed Comey voice. "I'm not lying" The agents called Inspector General Horowitz and took positions behind their cars, guns drawn. CNN's Jim Acosta arrived and began filming. For 25 minutes Mueller remained positioned on the pavement.
A red herring.
FISA standards are not the same as for criminal cases. Developing information to meet FISA probable cause standards can begin with guilt by association even though that association may turn out to be benign. This allows for the target of a politically motivated investigation to be investigated indirectly, via investigation of FISA qualifying associates, in hopes of uncovering (which hunt) damaging collaterally obtained information about the political target even when the FISA requirements for a direct investigation into that person aren't met.
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FISA has changed substantially since its inception. It's now the political sword of Damocles.
It turns out this post was prescient.
According to Glenn Greenwald, the Inspector General's report reveals that the FBI knew its FISA document to spy on Crater Page was bullshit, but strategically hid that, because it wanted to continue spying.
If you like the President, you should be angry right now. If you hate him, you should be furious!
If you like the President, you should be angry right now. If you hate him, you should be furious!
For what reason? Because the President does address unscrupulous use of FISA warrants? Or because the President claims the FBI was spying on him?
George Jr's administration authorized significant wiretapping without a FISA warrant. Why is it any worse today?