Boats

xoxoxoBruce • Nov 17, 2015 12:32 am
Boats, in this case bigada boats. Where's our carriers. They don't wear a red and white striped shirt to pick they out of the vast ocean.
Undertoad • Nov 17, 2015 1:17 am
Wherever trouble is, we'll be there! ...in about two weeks
Gravdigr • Nov 17, 2015 4:55 pm
No carriers in/around the sandbox?:eyebrow:
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 17, 2015 7:49 pm
The Navy promised one will be there soon... with a wistful postscript of, if we only had a dozen more of these 10 Billion dollar boats.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 19, 2015 1:22 am
Our first carrier the USS Langley, a 13,000 ton converted battleship in 1927, which was it's 7th year in service. Notice the lack of super structure above deck and the lack of side walls on the hangar deck.
Our second carrier, the USS Lexington built in 1927, had the Conning Tower superstructure typical of carriers ever since. But armored hanger deck walls and steel flight decks didn't come until WW II.
fargon • Nov 19, 2015 7:28 am
The Langley was a collier.
glatt • Nov 19, 2015 10:07 am
Bruce's comment got me looking for pictures of the hangars in modern carriers. And I came upon this one. Does anyone know what the different colored shirts mean in this photo of an "all hands" meeting in a hangar 3 years ago? You've got purple, green, red, blue, and camo. Hi Res picture here.
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fargon • Nov 19, 2015 10:37 am
The different colors represent different jobs on the flight deck.
Purple Fuel
Red Ordinance
Green Catapults and Arresting Gear
I Think
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 19, 2015 2:58 pm
fargon;945867 wrote:
The Langley was a collier.


Right, my bad. The 2nd and 3rd carriers, Lexington and Saratoga, were built on battle cruiser hulls. :thumbsup:
Gravdigr • Nov 19, 2015 5:49 pm
fargon;945885 wrote:
The different colors represent different jobs on the flight deck.
Purple Fuel
Red Ordinance
Green Catapults and Arresting Gear
I Think


If that ain't correct it's damn close.

I think the AirBoss wears yellow. Maybe.





ETA: Very good explainer here.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 19, 2015 6:59 pm
From that link not everyone with the same color shirt has the same duties or area of responsibility, like I figured they would. The colors seem to separate by authority and areas of expertise. The yellow shirt yells, hey blue shirt get away from the bombs and fuel. :haha:
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 5, 2016 11:52 pm
I guess a Jet-Ski is a boat. :D
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 8, 2016 1:57 am
Testing ability of aircraft against ships, with the new 2,000lb bombs.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 30, 2016 6:52 pm
If you own a boat you should have a garage for it. ;)
Gravdigr • Jan 31, 2016 2:06 pm
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xoxoxoBruce • Feb 3, 2016 11:28 am
I wonder how they Planned to cool the motor over the road? Or how the boat controls would hook to the car systems like steering and brakes. Designers like Stevens fan the flames of desire, then dumps reality on the engineers... and yes, the bean counters.
fargon • Feb 3, 2016 12:34 pm
Too many moving parts. 'Tis not boatswains mate proof.
BigV • Feb 3, 2016 2:51 pm
What do you do with the car part at the boat ramp once the boat's been launched? Presumably taking with it the "over the road" (and up the ramp and into the parking lot) power plant (but leaving the winch...)?
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 3, 2016 7:18 pm
Boat ramp? This ain't no city slicker toy, this is to go where no man has built a ramp before, where men are men and ramps are vacant. You have to see the Big Picture, otherwise you can't fit all the advertising copy in.
Gravdigr • Feb 9, 2016 3:12 pm
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glatt • Feb 9, 2016 3:27 pm
She looks like the Royal Clipper.
Here's her insides.
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xoxoxoBruce • Feb 9, 2016 4:30 pm
All that opulence just a tiny hole away from being the fanciest submarine in the ocean. :eek:
Holy shit, 56,000 square feet of sail.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 19, 2016 7:08 am
Speaking of submarines, this is close...
Griff • Feb 19, 2016 7:25 am
How much money did we sink into killing Castro? Now he's playing 2nd base for the Yankees.
glatt • Feb 19, 2016 8:20 am
They say it's small and "quiet." I wonder what it used for propulsion. With a range of 110 miles, I'd assume a gasoline or diesel engine. And I don't think of either of those as being "quiet."
glatt • Feb 19, 2016 8:32 am
According to this PDF, it was gasoline powered and was very dangerous because the fumes would settle in the bottom of the boat.
During one test, a single crew-man was in SKIFF, standing in the open deck hatch. Unbeknownst to all present, a fuel leak had occurred and fumes had gathered, but the crewman had neglected to turn valve #15. With the flip of a switch, the ignition of the engine, or some other spark-generating event, the fumes ignited. Due to the vessel’s small size, there was little space for the explosion to expand—except for the open deck hatch. Thus, as powder ignited deep in the breech of a cannon that expands dramatically through the barrel, the force in the small SKIFF sought the open hatch—and, as with a cannon, there was a moveable obstruction: the crewman, who was shot through the air. He went straight up, like a missile from a submarine, and eventually landed in the water nearby. Remarkably, he was plucked from the water unharmed, except that he had lost all his body hair. As Smith described the scene, other than his swim trunks, he was “nude as a sausage.” Smith also noted how fortunate it was that he had been standing straight up and well centered in the opening, which was exactly the same width as his shoulders; if he had been lower, perhaps with one shoulder under one side of the opening, he “would have left more than his hair in the hatch.”
Gravdigr • Feb 19, 2016 1:59 pm
glatt;953847 wrote:
...I don't think of either of those as being "quiet."


That's probably 1950s 'quiet'. As in 'quiet to the ear'. It would probably be noticed from waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off by a modern sub's listening equipment.
Gravdigr • Feb 20, 2016 2:58 pm
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xoxoxoBruce • Mar 1, 2016 11:53 am
Gondolas are for tourists and wimps.
But the flimsy little wires on the rudders don't look too safe. :eyebrow:
Gravdigr • Mar 7, 2016 2:11 pm
That's a lot of power in a little 20-footer.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 8, 2016 12:48 pm
Battleship...
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 13, 2016 10:36 am
We wanted no part of the war in Europe, but after a U-Boat sunk the Lusitania president Wilson told Germany knock it off, no more passenger ships or we'd come over there. Germany complied until the Russians collapsed, then the Germans said you're not the boss of me, figuring the could beat England and the U-Boats would keep the US from coming to the fight. That's why this U-Boat was in NY.
Griff • Mar 13, 2016 12:02 pm
In the interest of full disclosure, Wilson did want a war and the Lusitania was carrying munitions.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 13, 2016 3:33 pm
Yes Wilson did, but 70% of the country did not. Strange as it may seem, back then the peoples wishes were honored by politicians.
Killing 1100 civilians is not justified over a few bullets... ok, 170 tons of bullets.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 15, 2016 2:56 am
Looks like US industrial centers about the same time... and China now.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 20, 2016 4:53 pm
Kind of boatish so I'll sick it here, although it could go in WTF as well.

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The buoy would have an observation area from which our unlucky guardian would scan the seas; once a ship was spotted, the buoy would submerge to periscope depth, and after some time the nationality of the ship would be identified; at that point if an enemy ship is recognized the operator could submerge the buoy further (being anchored to the sea floor) via a winch to 50 or 60 feet beneath the surface, and then when the mine made contact (proximity or otherwise?) the buoy operator could detonate the mine. It was thought in this way that you could mine an area of sea and not have to worry about ships being damaged by friendly fire. The whole thing seems highly problematic to me--not the least of which would probably be a very jostling ride to the buoy operator.


As far as desirability of that post, it's right up there with Kamikaze Pilot, and bomb vest carrier. :rolleyes:
Gravdigr • Mar 21, 2016 5:42 pm
xoxoxoBruce;955888 wrote:
...and bomb vest carrier.


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Gravdigr • Apr 11, 2016 3:05 pm
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xoxoxoBruce • Apr 11, 2016 6:19 pm
That's cool, you can have your little dinghy transported to safer waters, and not risk ocean travel. They must have divers setting up some kind of cribbing to cradle the boats when the water's pumped out. Something to keep them from moving in rough weather.
Gravdigr • Apr 11, 2016 6:31 pm
xoxoxoBruce;957306 wrote:
They must have divers setting up some kind of cribbing to cradle the boats when the water's pumped out. Something to keep them from moving in rough weather.


I think they use cases of freshly picked prunes.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 11, 2016 6:39 pm
:headshake That would make them too salty.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 12, 2016 10:07 am
Smooth sailing...
BigV • Apr 14, 2016 1:01 pm
Smooth seas do not make strong sailors.
infinite monkey • Apr 14, 2016 1:13 pm
6 days do not a week make.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 15, 2016 12:17 am
Four funnel ships look easy to roll over.
Griff • Apr 15, 2016 7:05 am
funnel cakes as well
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 16, 2016 6:09 pm
Vincent boats? Not only your boat, but your little lawnmower too. Muhahahaha.
Gravdigr • May 8, 2016 4:03 pm
Washington bids farewell to an old destroyer

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So long USS Barry (DD-933), we hardly knew ye.
glatt • May 9, 2016 10:20 am
It's too bad we're losing her. You could spend an overnight on her, and while I never did, our Boy Scout troop spent one or two nights on board over the years.
Gravdigr • May 9, 2016 2:18 pm
That would've been cool, especially for a kid.
Griff • May 9, 2016 6:30 pm
I thought they were just renaming it the USS Barack.
Gravdigr • May 15, 2016 4:50 pm
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Chinese Freightliner Shinyo Sawako trying to get hooked up to a large salvage tug boat. This photo was taken shortly after Shinyo Sawako collided with a fishing boat Lurong Yu 2177 (that sank immediately upon collision and only two survived from its crew of 18 members). Reasons for the collision are unknown.
xoxoxoBruce • May 21, 2016 2:37 pm
For the boats, cleaning the Grand Canal. Bet that smells wonderful. :greenface
xoxoxoBruce • May 24, 2016 8:27 pm
Everybody gets a yacht...
Gravdigr • Jun 4, 2016 1:29 pm
Kayak completes solo voyage from Australia to New Zealand...

...sans kayaker.

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xoxoxoBruce • Jun 4, 2016 1:46 pm
In days of old when a sailor was keelhauled, he would be tied to ropes going under the ship and dragged from one side to the other. Fast enough so he might be able to hold his breath, but they dragged him across those barnacles, squirts, and mussels. :thepain:
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 6, 2016 7:58 pm
But hey, no worries. :rolleyes:
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 15, 2016 10:19 pm
The fleet...
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 20, 2016 12:48 pm
At 790 ft long, with an 88 ft beam and 32,000 GRT, she was the biggest ship in the world for 5 years.
Compared to today's 1188 ft long, 217 ft beam, 227,000 ton monsters, that's tiny.
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 25, 2016 1:50 am
When you absolutely, positively, want to get there quickly...
but absolutely, positively, don't have to get there.
Gravdigr • Jun 27, 2016 5:22 pm
xoxoxoBruce;963137 wrote:
When you absolutely, positively, want to get there quickly...
but absolutely, positively, don't have to get there alive.


Fixed it.
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 11, 2016 6:36 pm
Nobody does houseboats like San Francisco.
Gravdigr • Jan 16, 2017 4:45 pm
How not to load a boat onto the trailer.

Apologies for Bacefook linkage.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 16, 2017 5:58 pm
The USS Kitty Hawk strutting around with some deadbeat she picked up, you know how those Navy people are. ;)
footfootfoot • Jan 16, 2017 7:44 pm
accidentally caught boat fever again. I've been looking at plans for small sailing dinghies. First, it began with plywood tack and tape boats then quickly escalated to clinker/lapstrake planked skiffs and sailing dories.

Leading me down the rabbit hole to the Mystic Seaport Wooden Boat show in June/July,

FML

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xoxoxoBruce • Jan 16, 2017 7:52 pm
Mystic is fantastic. When you're done can you sell it for big bucks?
glatt • Jan 16, 2017 8:26 pm
I looked out the window at my sad wooden kayak in the back yard today and momentarily fantasized about ordering some epoxy and sanding it down when the weather gets warmer.
Griff • Jan 17, 2017 7:10 am
do it
Gravdigr • Jan 17, 2017 1:21 pm
Or, put some stamps on it and send to Kentucky. I don't boat much, but, I would put your kayak on top of GC1 and carry it everywhere I went.

Come to think of it, GC1 could prolly use a coat of epoxy.
BigV • Jan 17, 2017 3:12 pm
This reminds me..

I owe footfootfoot, glatt, and my other maker brothers a boat thread.
glatt • Jan 17, 2017 3:19 pm
BigV;979721 wrote:
This reminds me..

I owe footfootfoot, glatt, and my other maker brothers a boat thread.


Yeah, it's only been a DECADE.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 17, 2017 3:22 pm
We have a boat thread, do you mean a build thread?
BigV • Jan 25, 2017 10:32 pm
**SIGH**

HE MEANS THE THREAD

ETA:

Pretty good memory, eh?

oh, yeah, yours too.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 26, 2017 12:01 am
Don't sigh at me. :p:
If you want to post pictures of a watercraft we have threads for boats and for ships.

If you want to reminisce about things you accomplish before the great decline, then you'll have to find it in the Cellar attic. Sexobon is great at digging up that stuff.

If someone is inspired by the old farts reminiscing about shit they once did, then a build thread like glatt's bandsaw build thread would be most welcome.

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glatt • Jan 26, 2017 7:11 am
I was just giving you good natured grief V.

It's all good.
Griff • Jan 26, 2017 7:51 am
Somebody needs to step up and start the next bigasscellarbuild!
classicman • Jan 26, 2017 10:55 am
Do we have a build a wall thread?
Why hasn't Jim taken a Trump handle and started posting with it?
What the hell is wrong with you guys? Old farts!
We young-in's have expectations, ya know.
footfootfoot • Jan 26, 2017 12:28 pm
Here is the boat that has captured my attention, I may build a 1:6 model of it this summer. It's 12' 4-1/2" between perps.

And a sailing club in WA that is currently building one - with pictures!
https://oarlockandsail.com/2016/10/31/progress-on-the-buttonswan-and-our-new-boat/

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xoxoxoBruce • Jan 26, 2017 1:08 pm
Just feed that drawing into your buddy's CNC machine and say embiggen. :lol:

C'mon Foots, you shown repeatedly you've got the skills, it's just a matter of time and money, and you can show those west coasters how to do it right. :cheerldr:
footfootfoot • Jan 26, 2017 2:13 pm
Time and money are at odds with each other at the moment, but maybe not for long...
Gravdigr • Feb 27, 2017 5:36 pm
Awesomeness.

Apologies for the Facefuck linkage, YouTube don't know nothing 'bout this.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 27, 2017 8:47 pm
Wow, that's nuts. Moving the cabin fore and aft and the boat stays level. :thumb:
BigV • Feb 27, 2017 9:11 pm
Super cool. I'd say it's from Munson Boats, they're local.
glatt • Feb 28, 2017 8:16 am
The moving cabin is amazing, but far more utilitarian is that second boat that can carry a pickup truck. way cool!
Gravdigr • Feb 28, 2017 3:07 pm
I liked how ya could put the controls (the dash, if you will) pretty much any damn place on the boat.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 14, 2017 3:04 am
The old flying car promise redux.
Gravdigr • Apr 27, 2017 6:19 pm
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To hell with not being able to swim well, that is why I would not get in one of those jet-boats-on-white-water-situations.
footfootfoot • Apr 28, 2017 12:14 pm
Maybe it's from watching far too many SFX movie explosion crashes explosions crash crash boom, but that wasn't even as shocking as licking a 9 volt battery.

Plus, they seem like douches.

otherwise, two thumbs up!
Gravdigr • Apr 28, 2017 2:24 pm
I thought they were done after that first big bump, but the boat apparently said "Mmm, I like rocks! MOAR!"
footfootfoot • Apr 28, 2017 5:00 pm
Yes. It looked like it was just being blown by the wind. I would have liked it better if they titled it "Speed boat in river bashes into rocks and capsizes. What happened next blew my mind"
Gravdigr • May 15, 2017 5:17 pm
No, fuck you very much:

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My fav was the guy what took a kayak to the chin.

Better bigger.
glatt • May 15, 2017 9:32 pm
Did we see anyone die in that video? Some of those looked like they might have died.

Fuck no, indeed.
Gravdigr • May 16, 2017 1:47 am
Definitely some guys very close to being in trouble.

I prefer to think no one died in that vid.
Gravdigr • May 16, 2017 1:52 am
I think I did see a guy die yesterday though, come to think of it.

LiveLeak has/had a surveillance-type vid of some poor guy that got caught some how in a large spool being wound with wire/cable. Dude got spun over by that spool over and over. I realized that there was just no way he was gonna survive and turned it off.

I don't necessarily need to see that.
BigV • May 18, 2017 2:15 am
No. Fucking. Way.
xoxoxoBruce • May 18, 2017 3:57 am
I saw one too, guy on motorcycle broadsides a truck right in the saddle tank. Tank explodes and the dude is enveloped in flame.
Griff • May 18, 2017 7:43 am
No thank you internet.
gtown • May 22, 2017 3:17 am
xoxoxoBruce;988956 wrote:
I saw one too, guy on motorcycle broadsides a truck right in the saddle tank. Tank explodes and the dude is enveloped in flame.

Guy was definitely hurt but appeared to survive that if you catch the extended version.
WARNING: There are no boats in this video.
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xoxoxoBruce • May 22, 2017 12:16 pm
That's weird, the picture after the fire was put out shows the saddle tank intact. It's hard to believe all that fire came from the bike. :confused:
glatt • May 22, 2017 12:35 pm
Maybe the biker broke a fuel line coming from the tank?
xoxoxoBruce • May 22, 2017 3:41 pm
Usually the fuel line goes into or over the frame but it's China so who knows.
Looking at the tank with your K trick, the front lower corner of the tank may have been damaged.
Gravdigr • May 26, 2017 2:17 pm
The bike's tank ruptures, spraying fuel. A spark from steel on steel, or the truck's spark plug wire arcing, sets off atomized fuel.

Whoosh.

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The flame front is a fair way away from the saddle tank.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
glatt • May 26, 2017 2:23 pm
I like your story.

That fire is way under the truck. At first I thought that whatever the biker was carrying in his "lap" is what spilled and caught fire, but our view is too obstructed to be sure.
Gravdigr • May 26, 2017 2:42 pm
Thanks for pointing out that YouTube trick, pause/<,> to advance/rewind frame-by-frame. That's gonna be handy.

I think that was one of those things I've 'become unaware of'.:)
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 14, 2017 4:57 pm
Row row row your boat, but don't follow these fools...
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 23, 2017 12:53 pm
Or if rowing ain't your thing...
classicman • Jun 23, 2017 2:17 pm
Batboat!
BigV • Jun 24, 2017 11:57 pm
It sure does look badass. But I am skeptical about the 180 mph top speed. Maybe it's a drag boat and cuts a hole in the water too fast to fall in. But I'd think that a v-hull, even a catamaran double v would be beat to shit and back at 180 mph over a stretch of water big enough to get going that fast. A hydrofoil? Ok. V-hull? and not steel strong enough to withstand being pounded by the wave? Carbon fiber is light, but not know for its toughness.

I'd be interested to hear more, or, hey, let's see it in action!

eta: aha...

http://jalopnik.com/5846470/buy-this-2700-hp-corvette-boat-for-17-million
Gravdigr • Jun 27, 2017 9:45 am
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Gravdigr • Jun 27, 2017 12:02 pm
A Los Angeles-class sub at periscope depth. Pic taken from a P-3 Orion, perhaps fittingly, a sub-hunter.

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Is it just me, or, does something appear to be...emanating out from the airplane's shadow?:eyebrow:
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 28, 2017 12:41 am
That's just the shadow of the depth charge being released. BOOM!
Just kidding that's part of the plane.
Gravdigr • Jun 29, 2017 2:53 pm
xoxoxoBruce;991387 wrote:
That's just the shadow of the depth charge being released. BOOM!
Just kidding that's part of the plane.


I meant that I see something akin to semi-visible rays (for lack of a better word) of some sort emanating 360 degrees from the plane. Not the tail-boom-lookin-thingy.
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 29, 2017 3:54 pm
OK the darker blue lines? Probably the texture of the water surface.
Gravdigr • Jun 29, 2017 6:20 pm
I thought maybe I was finally having a flashback.:jig:
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 9, 2017 1:04 pm
Well it has an outboard motor, what appears to be MS boat numbers, and was in Boston Harbor photographing the tall ships... must be boat.
Gravdigr • Jul 10, 2017 2:32 pm
Steering wheel is not on the correct side...

...but, on a boat it is.
Gravdigr • Jul 10, 2017 2:33 pm
Now, for the argument:

Is it a boattruck, or is it a truckboat?
Gravdigr • Jul 10, 2017 2:34 pm
Wait.

No windshield, or A-pillars.

I think Bruce may be right.

That's a boat.
Griff • Jul 10, 2017 6:16 pm
That's not a boat, now this is a boat, which I saw on the day/place that dude drove into the water.
Griff • Jul 10, 2017 6:28 pm
Actually that is a boat.
glatt • Jul 10, 2017 6:36 pm
Where?
Griff • Jul 10, 2017 7:00 pm
Shot from Castle Island, Boston.
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 10, 2017 10:13 pm
You were on Castle Island for Sail Boston and that's all you show us? Don't bogart them pics, Sir. :eyebrow:
Griff • Jul 11, 2017 7:37 am
OOOOO... sorry bou that.

Spain shows up with a galleon built in Florda.
Griff • Jul 11, 2017 7:41 am
and Canada brings the beloved Blue nose.
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Griff • Jul 11, 2017 7:56 am
My FiL spent a couple years balsa modeling this beauty. The Pride of Baltimore.
Griff • Jul 11, 2017 8:01 am
and dis pretty thang
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 12, 2017 6:18 pm
Thank you, thank you, great pictures.
I wonder what that perch is about, and why it has so much rigging. The only thing I could think of is, being built in Florida, with that perch high and out front, maybe it's for a spotter, watching out for shallow water and reefs? Maybe if it was powered, but under sail I don't think the ship can respond that fast?
Griff • Jul 12, 2017 7:20 pm
I think you've got it. It'd be a good place to watch for obstructions. I just saw an article which said El Galleon was built in Spain.
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 8, 2017 10:00 am
Floating masses of algae are becoming a big problem is some ports, so the French have built a boat to fight it.
fargon • Sep 8, 2017 10:58 am
It looks French.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 1, 2017 10:54 pm
What a rig...
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Very cool, now get the fuck off the ramp.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 13, 2017 3:47 pm
Da Boat
Gravdigr • Oct 14, 2017 3:36 pm
Dumbass. There's no way that was cheaper, nor better, than an actual boat.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 14, 2017 3:38 pm
No, but it got him a chick willing to handle his lines. ;)
Gravdigr • Nov 2, 2017 4:37 pm
Looks like the USS OKC is open for bidness.

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captainhook455 • Nov 2, 2017 9:22 pm
Is that ^^^a submarine?
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 2, 2017 11:39 pm
Nice the numbered the hatches so they remember where the left the Cruise Missiles. :facepalm:
glatt • Nov 3, 2017 8:57 am
Looks like the inner round part of the door is water tight and the outer door leaks like a sieve.
Gravdigr • Nov 3, 2017 1:59 pm
captainhook455;998053 wrote:
Is that ^^^a submarine?


'Tis. The USS Oklahoma City.
Gravdigr • Dec 2, 2017 4:06 pm
Akula-class on the left, Typhoon-class on the right:

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xoxoxoBruce • Dec 3, 2017 9:05 pm
That's no boat, this is a boat. :haha:
Gravdigr • Dec 4, 2017 2:32 pm
Ship.
chrisinhouston • Dec 5, 2017 9:48 am
Several years ago when my son was a Lieutenant in the navy I was invited to go on a Tiger Cruise. That is a cruise where parents or others close to the sailor can come and stay on board for several days while the ship or sub moves between ports. However subs seldom offer these as they usually have nuclear weapons on board.

In this case my son's submarine, the SSBN Nevada had been completely overhauled and updated. It was in drydock for over a year and then after initial sea trials was sent from it's home base in Bremerton, Washington to San Diego where it successfully conducted a missile test, firing an unarmed Trident to a target near Hawaii.

I met up with other men (only men at this point were allowed on subs) and we boarded the sub in San Diego and didn't resurface for 5 days when we popped up at the mouth of Puget Sound at the US?Canada border.

Since this was the largest class of subs it wasn't as uncomfortable as smaller attack subs. Luckily I got a lower bunk, don't think I could have hopped up into the upper bunks. They had learning events for us and we got to see our kids manning their posts. I especially liked hanging out in the sonar room where they listened to the area around the sub, reminded me of The Hunt For Red October. The other cool thing was that since there were no nuclear weapons on board we were pretty much allowed to go anywhere other than the radio room or the room where they controls the nuclear propulsion system. I liked to hang out on the upper deck near the missile silos, it was quiet and a good place to nap or read a book.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 5, 2017 11:22 pm
Some people went nuts with war surplus materials...
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 5, 2017 11:25 pm
[strike]Questionable[/strike] alternate history...
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 7, 2017 9:44 am
Volvo boat mover...
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 26, 2018 10:13 pm
Ya seen that fish with the teeth? Ifn ya do tell him I'm lookin fer him.
Gravdigr • Feb 13, 2018 6:14 pm
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I would not want to be in that boat w/50 ppl.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 7, 2018 11:57 pm
Strange rig, water or ice.
“Nat Roe has been granted a patent for an ice and water boat.” Source: The Suffolk County news., August 09, 1907, Page 2. From this, I found the July 7, 1907 U.S. Patent Number 859,693 which states in part the following.
“I have produced a motor propelled ice yacht or scooter adapted to skim over ice and plunge into and across water spaces and air-holes with scarcely diminished speed. As an ice motor yacht it is safety controlled under high speed and affords a lively recreation to pleasure seekers and in the event of it plunging into the water in soft ice or open water leads, it would float the same as a boat and could be gotten out by means of ice hooks used to lift its runners on the ice. ”

Nathaniel Roe (1876 – 1957) owned a steel tape factory in Patchogue, and he had over 70 patents to his name at the time of his death. Steel tape refers to what we call tape measures today. He lived in Patchogue, New York his whole life.
His obituary stated in part the following. “Shortly after the turn of the century the noted inventor designed an ice boat and later set a new speed record of more than 100 miles per hour. This was considered to be the fastest speed ever attained by man up until that date.” … “Mr. Roe was the owner of one of the first cars in this area and also was a prominent figure in bicycle racing circles.” Source: The Patchogue advance., January 17, 1957, Page 7

The patent can be easily viewed on the Google patent website by searching for” nathaniel roe Ice and water boat” in the search box.

I do not believe the boat in the photo above is the one used for the speed record. A much sleeker boat with a bigger engine in shown in the February 10, 1912 issue of Forest and Stream magazine which states the following regarding this boat. “The motor scooter, built by Nat Roe for service on Great South Bay, has made 90 miles an hour, gone over 100 feet of open water and coasted over a mile after power was shut off. She is 20 feet long, 4 feet wide, driven by a 35-horsepower Fiat motor. She is propelled by a spiked wheel fitted in the centerboard trunk.” There is a photo of this boat with the article.

An ad in The New York Dramatic Mirror from April 9, 1910, Page 19, lists a film entitled “Ice Skaters on Lake Ronkonkoma.” The description is, “A series of most exciting pictures of the fastest boat on earth, jumping water holes in the ice at the rate of eighty-five miles per hour. Nat Roe’s motor ice boat, capable of running 120 miles an hour.”
Scientific American went so far to say that the boat could be driven home over snow covered roads in the February 12, 1910 issue.

Methinks there's a lot of hyperbole if not bullshit there. :eyebrow:

I can't tell if that's part of the trailer in the last picture or a steering skate for the boat.
sexobon • Apr 8, 2018 12:44 am
It doesn't look like the runners are steerable since they're flush against the hull. That could be a rear steering combination rudder and skate.
glatt • Apr 8, 2018 8:44 am
That spiked paddle wheel thing looks like it would splash freezing water all over the pleasure seeker.
Diaphone Jim • Apr 8, 2018 12:38 pm
Um, is the spike wheel between his legs?
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 10, 2018 12:19 am
No Jim, he sits further back, watch out for sudden stops though. ;)


This dude obviously has money, I wonder how he got it?
Oh, I know, he's a pirate. :smack:
Gravdigr • Jun 20, 2018 2:45 pm
Gonna need a bigger boat...

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xoxoxoBruce • Jul 24, 2018 5:55 pm
Salute comrade...
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 26, 2018 9:59 pm
Take all your vehicles on the water...
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 18, 2018 10:12 pm
Don't forget to tie your boat down... :facepalm:
glatt • Oct 19, 2018 6:17 am
Look at that foeshortening.

In the top picture, the truck is one car length from the stop line.

On the bottom, it looks like it's stopped at the stop line.

Photos lie all the time depending on the angle they are taken from. Makes me wonder how refs at football games can judge field position with any accuracy?
glatt • Oct 19, 2018 6:19 am
Or are those different trucks? Boats look the same.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 19, 2018 9:53 am
Same accident taken by three different people, I just grabbed two of the pictures.
captainhook455 • Oct 19, 2018 10:58 am
glatt;1017026 wrote:
Or are those different trucks? Boats look the same.

I think they have moved the boat some in the top pic trying not to damage the hull.
BigV • Oct 19, 2018 4:25 pm
Same wreck, different times. In the top picture the Boat's been stabilized with poles and the truck has been backed out some.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 19, 2018 5:17 pm
Stabilized with poles, but I don't believe the truck has been moved.
glatt • Oct 20, 2018 8:29 am
Me either. That truck is in the same spot. You can tell from the relationship between the roof of the truck and the stern of the boat.

It's a combination of a telephoto being used to take the bottom picture which compresses everything, and the angle it was shot at.
Gravdigr • Nov 28, 2018 7:02 am
"You're gonna need a bigger boat."

"Got one."

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Happy Monkey • Nov 28, 2018 11:15 am
Wow. More pics here.


And this is what it is carrying.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 29, 2018 12:40 am
I wonder what it cost to bring the Cole home?

Ah, found it. $4.5 million for the ride home and $250 million to repair.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 13, 2019 2:58 am
This Ferry started in San Francisco, had an accident killing five, then a fire at the dock. Next it was rebuilt for Seattle and served up into I think the 70s. First one arc welded together, copper wheel house to not screw up the compass, and other neat stuff.
fargon • Feb 13, 2019 7:33 am
I saw this Ferryboat in Kodiak when I was there in the '70s.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/eastside/parts-of-the-kalakala-as-an-80-foot-metal-bird-in-kirkland-why-not/
Gravdigr • Feb 13, 2019 9:55 am
Nope. Ain't getting on a ferry.:headshake
fargon • Feb 13, 2019 11:52 am
Ferry not Fairy. What are you some kind of ridge runner or something?
Diaphone Jim • Feb 13, 2019 11:57 am
The people poking up out of the port hole things, like little planters, make me LOL.
Gravdigr • Feb 13, 2019 1:25 pm
Gravdigr;1025630 wrote:
Nope. Ain't getting on a ferry.:headshake


fargon;1025640 wrote:
Ferry not Fairy. What are you some kind of ridge runner or something?


I'll get on a fairy, before I get on a ferry.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
BigV • Feb 14, 2019 12:20 am
Gravdigr;1025630 wrote:
Nope. Ain't getting on a ferry.:headshake


You are going to miss a lot when you come visit with that attitude mister
BigV • Feb 14, 2019 12:31 am
xoxoxoBruce;1025617 wrote:
This Ferry started in San Francisco, had an accident killing five, then a fire at the dock. Next it was rebuilt for Seattle and served up into I think the 70s. First one arc welded together, copper wheel house to not screw up the compass, and other neat stuff.


I've kayaked right up to the hull of the Kalakala, touched it just to say I had. Who knew today was that day.

Soon after that she was towed away from Lake Union near Ivar's on the lake. It had a little plastic tip jar for donations hanging on a line from the bow.
Gravdigr • Feb 14, 2019 1:21 pm
BigV;1025687 wrote:
You are going to miss a lot when you come visit with that attitude mister


I won't miss drowning in a ferry tipover.
Undertoad • Feb 14, 2019 6:57 pm
capsize
Griff • Feb 14, 2019 9:32 pm
Like a duck boat.
Diaphone Jim • Feb 15, 2019 12:13 pm
I keep looking for evidence that the Table Rock Lake duckboat actually capsized rather than sinking upright.
Maybe a photograph of its upside down hull will surface, so to speak.
The word seems to be used
much less frequently during the investigation than it was during the initial press reporting.
Thanks, Griff, for bringing it up, so to speak.
Griff • Feb 15, 2019 3:40 pm
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(Bob Ross on bass) ;)
Clodfobble • Feb 15, 2019 5:37 pm
Dammit! I'm so gullible I watched the whole video trying to confirm it was Bob Ross. Turns out it's actually Jim Morrison.



[size=1]No, not that Jim Morrison. The other one.[/size]
Flint • Feb 15, 2019 5:38 pm
there's another one ?!
Gravdigr • Feb 15, 2019 8:31 pm
Heh...I thought he looked kinda like Keith Whitley.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 16, 2019 2:23 am
Hurricane force winds, full load, buttoned up roof and sides, easy to see why it went down.
Gravdigr • Mar 9, 2019 10:45 am
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Eighty Japanese midget submarines in dry dock at Kure, Japan.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 9, 2019 12:12 pm
Those damn things showed up everywhere, Pearl Harbor, Attu and Kiska, China. Instead of starting a war they should have sold those things to Escobar, El Chapo, and El Mayo. :haha:
Gravdigr • May 3, 2019 2:14 pm
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BigV • May 3, 2019 7:10 pm
That is awesome!
Gravdigr • May 17, 2019 2:53 pm
And I thought Glatt's home-built wooden kayak was awesome:

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Do a beer roll in that!
glatt • May 18, 2019 7:47 am
Pretty cool!

Imagine how awkward it is for him to get in and out with nothing on the deck to put his weight on to steady himself.
xoxoxoBruce • May 28, 2019 1:24 am
This has to be the shortest tugboat going, it works down around Chesapeake Bay. The only thing I could find on the web was a couple pictures and it's current position/speed. I'd love to know the horsepower and draft.
My buddy took the first picture and the second came from the web.
Griff • May 28, 2019 7:11 am
That self propelled bobber is pretty cool.
xoxoxoBruce • May 28, 2019 6:51 pm
Someone sent me some specs but no horsepower rating.
Year 2012, length 25.5 ft (7.8m), depth 6 ft (1.8m) width 16 ft (4.9m), Gross tonnage 16, net tonnage 13.

In the background behind the green sign is a WW II concrete ship.
xoxoxoBruce • May 30, 2019 1:30 am
Got the horsepower on this one...
Diaphone Jim • May 30, 2019 12:12 pm
Amazing!
First vid an auction ad, 2nd running a maybe smaller engine, 3rd vintage record run.
Couldn't find a sound vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yArx9xKLWo0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F03jwW_6r4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bURCqvG9dPY
BigV • May 30, 2019 11:14 pm
Roger Stone?!?!? @6:03???

W. T. F.

???????
BigV • May 30, 2019 11:38 pm
[YOUTUBEWIDE]fPKSf5tHzsw[/YOUTUBEWIDE]

LUST!
xoxoxoBruce • May 31, 2019 12:39 am
That's not a boat, that's one of the prettiest cars ever built.
1963, a buddy of my class president pulls up for a party. Black XKE with the top up. out rolls a 5'7" 300 lb guy in ski pants and sweater, followed by TWO women of playmate quality. A vivid illustration of the power of money. Good grief.
Diaphone Jim • May 31, 2019 12:29 pm
I've owned two Jaguars over fifty years, Leno has a roomful.
xoxoxoBruce • May 31, 2019 1:33 pm
So how many "playmates" have you attracted with the Jags? :haha:
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 10, 2019 1:58 am
Living the good life...
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 19, 2019 12:33 am
Go fast Howard Hughes style...
BigV • Aug 19, 2019 10:06 pm
Whoooaaa....
Griff • Aug 24, 2019 10:16 am
Okay, there is a power boat I approve of.
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 21, 2019 1:11 am
Heeeere's Boaty [/Ed McMahon]
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 31, 2019 11:37 pm
Three deck barges delivering new cars up and down major rivers. The first company doing this was started in 1915, and these Fords in the picture are early 1950's.
Diaphone Jim • Nov 1, 2019 12:40 pm
Do you suppose they hired local young people to drive them?
A great job, if so.
Diaphone Jim • Nov 1, 2019 6:57 pm
When I first saw photos of these auto barges, I thought of The Golden Ray which half-capsized some months back and has disappeared from the news if you don't live in coastal Georgia.
It carried thousands of vehicles and the plan to right the ship has been abandoned.
What will happen is probably similar to the dismantling of the Tricolor in the English Channel five years ago. It was an auto carrier of about the same size, also tipped halfway over on its port side in just a little bit deeper water.

If you have a spare half-hour or so, this video is a simply astounding account of the operation. Saws and pulleys, imagination and guts!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ENOJBLVgjw
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 2, 2019 4:24 am
That was amazing, the pictures of the cut section showed all those cars cross sectioned at different points of the cars.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 7, 2020 1:37 am
Wearing out one hull at a time...
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 16, 2020 12:26 pm
Boats for most people are toys unlike pro fishermen and such.
Since they are usually Dad's toy many of the names a basically Dad Jokes.
Over 5000 yachts registered under “Carpe Diem,” sometimes translated as Seas the Day. :facepalm:
Diaphone Jim • Feb 16, 2020 12:33 pm
"Unsinkable II"!
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 16, 2020 12:38 pm
That gave me pause also, but I suppose it could have been sold or stolen, or maybe his ex-wife owns it. I got a kick out of Wood Too and Wood Not.
sexobon • Feb 16, 2020 12:58 pm
xoxoxoBruce;1044211 wrote:
Larry Ellison spent $10 million on this boat...

I think he stole the design from the Klingons:

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Diaphone Jim • Feb 18, 2020 12:06 pm
Boats. And cars. And everything else in Japan tsunami. Awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XvFFfgXwnw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkXmieHhPp4
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 18, 2020 12:29 pm
If you have enough water everything in mobile.
I'd seen a lot of footage of the water coming in but very little of it going out again.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 1, 2020 1:04 am
Imagine sitting in you porta-potty sized ice fishing shack and peek out the window to this...
BigV • Mar 1, 2020 12:02 pm
Good time to already be on the toilet.
Gravdigr • Mar 2, 2020 8:17 pm
Cuz first you're gonna say it, and then you're gonna do it.



Imagine seeing that thing drifting at ya outta the fog.
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 30, 2020 12:59 am
What were they thinking?
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 4, 2020 1:15 am
Somebody had money to burn...

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The Golden Sahara is a show car Barris built for Jim Skonzakes in Ohio.
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 6, 2020 3:07 am
Boat people, how much does 990 feet of that chain weigh?
BigV • Jul 6, 2020 12:03 pm
About a fuckton/foot, given the apparent scale of the picture. Wow.
Diaphone Jim • Jul 7, 2020 12:32 pm
I saw the chain on the USS Hornet carrier in Alameda a few years ago; best part of the tour.
This is the Ford, brand new; 136# links are "light weight technology":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W52Cx55aLk

And a nice rope, too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEt2REyWGvc
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 7, 2020 11:55 pm
I looked at another anchoring video which had some interesting comments.

[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]What if anchor stuck in seabed .[/COLOR]

If the anchor stuck in the sea bed and the ship is not able to draw it out, usually the chain is cut and a buoy marker is left attached to the other half of the chain which will go with the anchor so that it can be retrieved later.

[COLOR="royalblue"]I was a 3rd Mate back in the 80's and we all got told it is the weight of the WHOLE CHAIN that holds the ship from dragging , the anchor simply holds the chain in place.[/COLOR]

That's correct

[COLOR="royalblue"]2 questions though... How much cable to be paid out for it to hold and how one will know that its actually holding but not drifting?[/COLOR]

The anchor chain length will depend on the depth of anchoring point. The thumb rule is "Scope of 6" i.e. if the depth is 25 m, the anchor cable to be paid out 150m. The Ship should move in a fixed diameter and that should not change....however, in case of wind, there can be a small drag.

[COLOR="royalblue"]How do you de-anchor to release ship to run ? Or how do you release the ship from the seabed taking off the anchor?[/COLOR]

The windlass or anchor winch is used to wind up the chain and lift the anchor. If the anchor is stuck, the ship is moved aft and ahead to release the anchor (which is unlikely as ships are anchored in dedicated anchor stations where such problems do not occur).

Aha, so that's why they need near 1,000 ft of chain. :idea:
glatt • Jul 8, 2020 11:34 am
Three years ago, I was on a small motor boat that anchored off the Florida Keys. The anchor got wedged under the lip of a large rock and moving around didn't release it. We could see it, since the water was only 15 feet deep or so. And so one of the guys dove down to release it.

Come think of it, we slept in that morning and got the boat captain nobody else wanted. He wasn't very good at putting the boat where he wanted it.
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 18, 2020 5:29 pm
When a boat don't boat no mo...
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 6, 2020 2:42 pm
No problem...
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 19, 2020 2:08 am
This one just sold for $77,000 which is not outrageous for the size...

A retracting top and roll up (figure of speech, actually electric) windows is unique...
glatt • Sep 21, 2020 9:00 pm
1400 hours! Is that a typo? That's almost 9 months working full time. It better sell for $77k when that much time was spent just on the dashboard.
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 22, 2020 10:20 pm
No it's not a typo. He wanted a perfect fit and it became an obsession. He put it together and took it apart dozens of times.