Salad Is Overrated

xoxoxoBruce • Aug 25, 2015 5:15 pm
salad ain't food, salad is what food eats, the old saying goes. WaPo makes a case for salads not being a sound investment in resources.

As the world population grows, we have a pressing need to eat better and farm better, and those of us trying to figure out how to do those things have pointed at lots of different foods as problematic. Almonds, for their water use. Corn, for the monoculture. Beef, for its greenhouse gases. In each of those cases, there’s some truth in the finger-pointing, but none of them is a clear-cut villain.

There’s one food, though, that has almost nothing going for it. It occupies precious crop acreage, requires fossil fuels to be shipped, refrigerated, around the world, and adds nothing but crunch to the plate. It’s salad, and here are three main reasons why we need to rethink it.

Those three reasons are...
Salad vegetables are pitifully low in nutrition.
The biggest thing wrong with salads is lettuce, and the biggest thing wrong with lettuce is that it’s a leafy-green waste of resources.
~snip~
... rate foods based on how much of 27 nutrients they contain. Four of the five lowest-ranking vegetables (by serving size) are salad ingredients: cucumbers, radishes, iceberg lettuce and celery. (The fifth is eggplant.)

Those foods’ nutritional profile can be partly explained by one simple fact: They’re almost all water. Although water figures prominently in just about every vegetable (the sweet potato, one of the least watery, is 77 percent), those four salad vegetables top the list at 95 to 97 percent water. A head of iceberg lettuce has the same water content as a bottle of Evian (1-liter size: 96 percent water, 4 percent bottle) and is only marginally more nutritious.
~snip~
Salad fools dieters into making bad choices. Lots of what passes for salad in restaurants is just the same as the rest of the calorie-dense diabolically palatable food that’s making us fat, but with a few lettuce leaves tossed in. Next time you order a salad, engage in a little thought experiment: Picture the salad without the lettuce, cucumber and radish, which are nutritionally and calorically irrelevant. Is it a little pile of croutons and cheese, with a few carrot shavings and lots of ranch dressing?
~snip~
Salad has unfortunate repercussions in our food supply. Lettuce has a couple of No. 1 unenviable rankings in the food world. For starters, it’s the top source of food waste, vegetable division, becoming more than 1 billion pounds of uneaten salad every year. But it’s also the chief culprit for foodborne illnesses. According to the Centers for Disease Control, green leafies accounted for 22 percent of all food-borne illnesses from 1998-2008.

To be fair, “leafy vegetables,” the CDC category, also includes cabbage, spinach and other kinds of greens, but the reason the category dominates is that the greens are often eaten raw. As in salad.
fargon • Aug 25, 2015 5:21 pm
Not the way I make salad.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 25, 2015 5:22 pm
See reason #2. :haha:
fargon • Aug 25, 2015 5:24 pm
You have to do something to make that stuff palatable.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 25, 2015 5:26 pm
So why bother with that stuff that is such a waste to start with?
fargon • Aug 25, 2015 5:29 pm
I like the crunchy coolness of it all.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 25, 2015 5:32 pm
So your crunchy coolness is more important than the environment and starving children in Africa? :p:
fargon • Aug 25, 2015 5:35 pm
Well they can have salad too.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 25, 2015 5:38 pm
" EXTRA, EXTRA, Starving African Children Savor Crunchy Coolness"... film at 11. :lol2:
fargon • Aug 25, 2015 5:39 pm
YAY!!!
Gravdigr • Aug 25, 2015 6:01 pm
That was a thought-provoking read. Stop provoking my thoughts!!

There's nothing nutritious, or economical about them, but, I do like me a Zaxby's House Zalad, now and again.
Gravdigr • Aug 25, 2015 6:03 pm
Remember when you used to get a sprig of parsley with your steak dinner?

I wonder how many tons of parsley sprigs have been thrown into the dumpsters of the world's steakhouses.
Gravdigr • Aug 25, 2015 6:06 pm
xoxoxoBruce;937103 wrote:
So your crunchy coolness is more important than the environment and starving children in Africa? :p:


fargon;937106 wrote:
Well they can have salad too.


D'oh!! That's why they're starving, salad has no nutritional value!!
Undertoad • Aug 25, 2015 6:27 pm
Nutrition = science

Nutritionism = religion
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 25, 2015 11:31 pm
Gravdigr;937115 wrote:
D'oh!! That's why they're starving, salad has no nutritional value!!

Not the way fargon makes them. ;)
Undertoad;937118 wrote:
Nutrition = science

Nutritionism = religion


Lettuce relates to neither. :haha:
Sundae • Aug 25, 2015 11:38 pm
Yay!

I'm not a fussy eater because I don't like cucumber; I am nutritionally, environmentally and globally aware. There are children alive in Africa today because of my menu choices.
monster • Aug 29, 2015 1:38 pm
Undertoad;937118 wrote:
Nutrition = science

Nutritionism = religion


Lettuce Pray?
Clodfobble • Aug 29, 2015 7:00 pm
Ha!
JuliaFord • Sep 25, 2015 7:00 am
I do follow my nutrition, eat more vegetables and do fitness.
BigV • Sep 26, 2015 11:08 am
Hi JuliaFord, welcome to the cellar.
fargon • Sep 26, 2015 2:33 pm
High, JuliaFord I'm Krazy. But I make great salads.
Zathris • Sep 30, 2015 7:46 pm
I like veggies.
I like fruit.
I love meat.

I am THE OMNIVORE!
Gravdigr • Sep 30, 2015 7:50 pm
I'd love to meat you.
BigV • Oct 1, 2015 11:34 am
Your middle name wouldn't be Hannibal, would it?
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 1, 2015 1:00 pm
Or John Holmes? ;)
Zathris • Oct 1, 2015 9:44 pm
Gravdigr;940538 wrote:
I'd love to meat you.


EEEEEEWWWWwwwuh!

BigV;940597 wrote:
Your middle name wouldn't be Hannibal, would it?


Nope.

xoxoxoBruce;940613 wrote:
Or John Holmes? ;)


Yer half right.
Gravdigr • Oct 2, 2015 1:15 pm
Gravdigr;940538 wrote:
I'd love to meat you.


Zathris;940654 wrote:
EEEEEEWWWWwwwuh!


Um...You're a guy. I'm a guy. Double Eew.

Not that there's anything wrong with that...

I was speaking at Julia, though.

:)
Griff • Oct 2, 2015 1:32 pm
And tell me, did you sail across the sun?
Did you make it to the Milky Way to see the lights all faded
And that Salad is overrated?

Every time I look at this thread...
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 2, 2015 2:03 pm
Sorry Griff, I meant to type over-ate-ed. :haha:
Griff • Oct 2, 2015 2:07 pm
I accept your apology but we may have to talk restitution.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 2, 2015 2:20 pm
How about a salad? :D
classicman • Oct 2, 2015 9:41 pm
ftw
Zathris • Oct 3, 2015 3:26 pm
Gravdigr;940677 wrote:

I was speaking at Julia, though.

:)


Ah. Okie dokie.

See, that's why I use the quote button instead of the quick reply box when replying so a specific Dwellar.
Gravdigr • Oct 3, 2015 5:08 pm
:right: