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Yep, yep, yep.
All of that, and then some. I have been meaning to edit some of my dashcam footage and post the result to youtube but I keep getting too lazy, and I misplaced the little adapter thingie so my laptop can read a micro SD card.
That video appears to be at more than double speed. Is that correct? If so, it makes some of those things seem much worse.
A lot to shake your head at. Bad drivers abound.
One thing that's not a bad driver but that pisses me off is at the 2:19 mark, where another truck has what appears to be a retread tire delaminate and spew huge strips of tread all over the road. I've seen way too much of that in person. It's the worst when youre driving along at speed and the car in front of you swerves to another lane and you see what looks like a tire just lying in the middle of your lane. You swerve too, and as you go by, you see it's a fucking tread just lying there. If I were dictator, I'd regulate that stuff out of existence.
I have had a tire blow out like that and leave a 'gator' (the tread) on the road but I went back and dragged it off to the side. Should be a littering fine if you don't.
The driver should be responsible for removing the tread from the road and the road repair guy should haul it way with the casing.
This one time, at band camp, for one of my extra-money-making schemes, I came up with the bright idea of getting a truck (I was gonna use a grain truck with a dump bed) and picking up those re-tread flyoffs on the interstate between two exits near home, and collect them in my spare time til I had a truck load. I even had the bright idea of using local jail inmates to do the picking up. Free labor! We even had a tire recycling operation right here in town at the time. No traveling to deliver.
So I goes to the recycler. I says to him, I says "How much do scrap rubber bring?".
Six cents per ton.:neutral:
But Officer, I didn't know that. :headshake
Been there, done that.
Squashed a Grand Am up on State Street @ Bridge in NE Philly once upon a time.
Doofus thought he could ignore five turn signals and a big sign warning of wide right turns and get away with it.
He didn't.
But nobody told him the blinky things weren't party lights. :facepalm:
just before attempted traffic maneuver, thought bubble reads: "doesn't apply to me"
Saudi truckers are a leeeetle bit forgetful:
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Liquid Aluminum of the Autobahn. :eyebrow:
Liquid aluminum...in a moving vehicle...what could possibly go wrong?
Shake a tail feather...
Shoulda backed out of that. No WAY there was enough room to turn around.
So there is no qualified trucker who can haul that .... whatever that is gear.
Looks like a big ass liquid pump, for irrigation, oil, or maybe its a fracking pump.
Regardless, there's plenty of qualified drivers, they just happened to not pick one. :haha:
I assumed that the truck jackknifed while trying to avoid something stupid being done by somebody else. And that moderately high speeds were involved.
The only flaw I see in my assumption is the lack of skid marks and disturbed vegetation on the edges of the road.
Half an hour of searching. Shouldn't have spent so much time on this, but
I did find some more pictures.
Looks like he was trying to turn around
Yes, definitely trying to turn around, that's why Pam said, should've backed out.
Here is an idea of what might have
happened.
And
this one is just for giggles.
That's what it looked like. He can only pull that off when there's plenty of room behind the trailer, not in a concrete canyon. :facepalm:
...or, rather, doesn't see?
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My Grandfather told me. "When you pass a truck, don't pull over till you can see the drivers face in the window."
We pulled up to a toll booth in a little hatchback once and a truck slowly pulled in behind us, and when the gate rose for us, the truck behind us started moving before we did, and it rear ended us very slowly. No damage. Nobody hurt. Bumper not even scratched. But I'm convinced that the driver forgot that he pulled in behind us and then couldn't see us and when the gate rose and the light turned green he just pulled forward on autopilot. My dad was driving, and that probably explains why we were slow to start. It's kind of scary that you can be in front of a truck and invisible.
'tis very true. Small cars can vanish if I am not watching carefully. I have run more than one off the road because they sneaked into my blind spot on my right and I couldn't see them.
And then there is
this.
And it took three days to get the grin off Ben's face. :haha:
I'd like to know what happend to the driver of the truck.
Nothing. No harm, no foul. He truly didn't know he had a passenger. His company bought the chair guy new tires and they all had a good laugh.......much later.
That's one hellofa wheelchair to survive all that.
Whatever the brand of chair, think of the advertising they could do !
From Johnnypayphone
Mines are dangerous places, and it’s not like the olden days- mining companies care about safety. Injuries hurt the bottom line.
In order to get onto a mine site, you have to have three days of MSHA training. Then the operator itself is going to want to send you through a day’s training. Then you have individual training days for parts of the mine- like if you need to go into the pit. Going underground requires a 40 hour safety course. This isn’t how the company trains its employees, this is just what it takes for a guy like me to drive in and unload a truck.
So today I had to deliver a light plant (like a lamp and generator on a trailer) to a drilling contractor working at a gold mine, and bring the dead one back. I couldn’t load before 8 AM. The mine was 4 hours away, then I had to re-load and bring another piece back to a place that closed at 6. So that gave me ten hours to load, drive four hours, unload, reload, drive four hours, and unload. Doable, but only if things went smooth on site. That means I get up at six AM, do a pre-trip inspection, warm up the truck and charge its air tanks, make sure I’m at the load site by 7:45, and hopefully I’m grabbin gears by 8:30-9 AM.
The light plant has an eye on the top for the crane to hook onto. But here’s the thing, the mine had decided to go above and beyond MSHA safety requirements. In order to be on the back of a truck, you needed to have fall protection. The step-deck flatbed sits about three and a half feet above the ground. The crane operator can’t really swing his hook in there and catch the eye, so someone has to climb up on the truck and slip the hook through the eye. To do it according to regulations, they’d have to get into a fall protection harness, tie off a lanyard to both sides of the trailer (preventing you from falling off), and then put the hook through the eye.
If the contractor is caught just jumping up there and doing it, they could lose a million-dollar contract and be kicked off the site. But my company might bill $600 gross for this job. So they asked me to do it. If I refused, they’d think I was an asshole and my company wouldn’t get any more work from them. If I got caught, my company would be banned from the site. Bear in mind that I’ve entered a mine and driven 30 miles inside to the unload site, they’re big. Still, ever since MSHA became self-funded, they’re greedy for fines. They might fine the operator $10,000 for such an offense. The operator, and the contractor, are probably losing thousands of dollars a minute waiting for this job to get done. You have a crane, a crane operator, a drill crew of 8 or so, a trucker, and a truck. Time is money.
They were probably drilling a $2 million dollar hole in the ground. So I did it.
Trucking is full of moments like these. You’re constantly under pressure to break the rules, or the law. If you put your foot down, not only do you get labeled as a troublemaker, but you also lose money. If I show up and my truck’s not legal (a single burnt out bulb could make it illegal), I have to decide whether to shut it down or get the job done. If it’s a safety issue, I’ll usually shut it down at my own expense. Let some other jackass kill himself for the company. If I can fix it myself, I will. But often, you just have to run outlaw, in tiny little ways.
Maybe you drive for 12 hours one day. Maybe one of the eighteen tires on the truck has less than 4/32nd of an inch of tread just one spot, and the company doesn’t want to buy a $300 tire just because of that spot. Maybe a mud flap’s too high off the ground, or there’s condensation in a tail light. Some things a highway patrolman can spot from a mile away, and he’ll pull you over.
Other things are only going to show up if you go through a weigh station and the DOT decides to give you an inspection. Some things will just get flagged, other things will get you shut down. You constantly have to balance this complex system of regulations (height, weight, and length restrictions vary by state) against the thing that makes money, which is delivering your cargo to the destination. All those signs that say like “maximum length 48 feet kingpin to axle” that you normally ignore? Driving a truck, you have to pay attention to all of them.
We’ve had oversize loads where the trailer had to legally have four axles on the ground in Utah, but then when you hit the state line, you have to raise one of your axles to make it legal. Don’t ask me why, I don’t make the rules. I just try and follow them the best that I can, and try and get the load to its destination, even if those two things are often in conflict.
I remember having a DOT guy check my bucket truck. He told me "See all these lights on your chip box?" "Yeah?" "Fix them, or remove them." "Really?" "I can park you if you like..."
I spent the rest of the day removing lights.
They have the power, you can't argue, whine or appeal.
All true.
I have been to a mine. Yes to the safety stuff and silly training video. All of it. I even had to go and put on my steel toed boots to not leave my cab.
DOT can be real a-holes sometimes. Sometimes not. It truly depends on whom you are facing and what kind of day they are having.
Interesting take on driving in
Esquire...
Trucking as an occupation is hard. It's not just a job, usually, it's a whole lifestyle.
There are many reasons for the driver turnover situation, which is probably worse than that report says. Low wages, crap miles, thoughtless dispatchers, aggressive police, insane traffic and shippers/consignees who have no respect for you or your time. And those are only the easy ones.
Most new drivers only stay for a year or two, until they find something better. We call em "meat in a seat". (Yes, we like rhymes)
Autonomous driving trucks will not replace a skilled driver. There are just too many variables to consider for a computer to do the job. And I'd like to see one find a parking spot and back in! only THEN will computers replace drivers.
Pam
There's a lot more than shifting and steering, anticipation, that sixth sense to know when the shit might hit the fan, and what to do about it.
I can see autonomous trucks traveling superhighways between special terminals like some places did with the tandem trailers, but in congested areas with unpredictable people doing crazy shit, nope. Gotta have some poor bastard to blame so the company can wash their hands.
I can see them maybe working on a superhighway if and only if they are running in a dedicated, protected lane. No cars allowed. Volvo is experimenting with "platooning". Platooning reduces aerodynamic drag by grouping vehicles together and safely decreasing the distance between them via electronic coupling, which allows multiple vehicles to accelerate or brake simultaneously.
Link to more info on platooning
hereBacking into a complicated spot is one of the easiest things a computerized vehicle can do.
You know what it can't do to save its life? Pick the spot. It can't take directions from the warehouse traffic manager on which bay to back into. It probably can't handle it if you tell it to wait 15 minutes for something to open up. It can't follow hand-waving directions at all. It can't make on-the-spot decisions. Its main way of dealing with anything confusing will be to stop. An open parking lot is like the worst possible scenario. Do we follow the lines? Can we see the lines?
That's what I imagine anyway just from reading a little bit about it I'm no expert
Backing into a complicated spot is one of the easiest things a computerized vehicle can do.
You know what it can't do to save its life? Pick the spot. It can't take directions from the warehouse traffic manager on which bay to back into. It probably can't handle it if you tell it to wait 15 minutes for something to open up. It can't follow hand-waving directions at all. It can't make on-the-spot decisions. Its main way of dealing with anything confusing will be to stop. An open parking lot is like the worst possible scenario. Do we follow the lines? Can we see the lines?
That's what I imagine anyway just from reading a little bit about it I'm no expert
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I think that little knob on the dash board would just confuse me. And make it harder to maneuver.
Watch the view from the side-mirror, and out the windows in V's first Ford truck video.
I'm not totally convinced that truck is moving when it's 'sposed to be backing up.
That's because his yap flappin' take much longer than trailer backin'. ;)
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Sure it is, shit Pam sees, and I'm sure this is part of the scenery.
I do NOT run behind 62 mph Swift trucks!!!
I can make 70 and I pass those rolling roadblocks!
I thought that Swift had to speed up their trucks about 10 years ago.
The driver forgot to set the trailer brakes. The tractor brakes were set, but only for the back wheels. The steering wheels are not affected by the parking brake. This is to allow you to steer in the event of loss of air pressure while driving, thus locking up the driving wheels.
What a maroon!
I thought maybe the driver didn't set any brake, and just left the truck in gear, and, then, when the crane and trailer lifted the drive axle...off she went.
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Insult to injury.
Well not everyday, but occasionally, rolling roadblocks.
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Give that man a medal!
It's not just the skill involved, it's how easy they make it look.
I suspect robots might have been involved. See recent Ford F-150 assisted trailer backup videos here and elsewhere.
I suspect robots might have been involved. See recent Ford F-150 assisted trailer backup videos here and elsewhere.
Well, that's another illusion shattered!
Just when I'd got to that stage in life where I wasn't prepared to accept anything at face value.
I obviously let my guard down.
The truth will set you free!
Truth or suspicion? If you look at the numerous truck rodeo videos on the net, you'll see there are drivers who have the skills to make that move without any aids.
I used to do that all the time (and still sometimes do).
Indoor docks are scary until you get used to them, then they are actually easier than outdoor docks because you can see the entrance more easily than mere lines on the ground.
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Better off hitting the asshole. If you don't like someone on your tail move the fuck over.
If you don't like crashing, get off of my ass.
If you don't like crashing, get off of my ass.
If you don't like crashing get the fuck over where you belong.
I won't be the one crashing. I'll be the one brake-checking the tailgater. Also, I don't camp out in the passing lane.
If you brake check, prepare to be crashed into.
I'm always prepared to be crashed into.
Because people.
You sound as though you enjoy tailgating.
Not at all, I like the fact the left lane bandits won't move unless they are tailgated, even less. I've been pondering James Bondish forward facing rocket launchers. Not for real military blow'em up rockets, but 4th of July class C rockets to fire a foot above their roof. That should get their attention.
Who was the tailgated vehicle supposed to cutoff, the tractor trailer or the car on the on ramp?
He didn't have to cut off anyone, there was enough room to pull an aircraft carrier in front of the truck. If you're far enough ahead for the truck to see your blinky, it's not a problem IF YOU DON"T SLOW DOWN. The trouble comes when they pass the truck, pull in then slow to a speed slower than the truck is traveling. It's stupid, dangerous and very very rude.
A guy was telling me how he always uses his blinkys, always gives the passed vehicle plenty of room, doesn't travel more than 5 over, and just loves his cruise control which he uses all the time. When he comes up on a truck doing 5 less than he is he just puts on his blinky, changes lanes, and when well past the truck puts on the blinky and moves back.
I told him passing that truck with a 5 mph differential, just tied up the left lane for 15 fucking miles. He said, so? He's lucky there were several witnesses including two cops. I couldn't even yell at him in case I got a chance to dismember him later. :mad:
Not at all, I like the fact the left lane bandits won't move unless they are tailgated, even less.
I have found flashing headlights to be both more polite and far more effective. You flash your lights, I know you mean to tell me something. You tailgate me, you might just be a jerk, and if I move over (thus screwing up the flow of the lane next to me, which is likely crowded as well,) you might not even pass me.
Also, where is the line of what is "fast enough" for the fast lane? Just this past Sunday I was going 90--no exaggeration whatsoever--and got passed on the right by a guy flipping me off and waving me out of the fast lane like I was a grandma going 5 under. It's all relative.
I haven't found the headlights to be effective in daylight.
You only screw up the flow of traffic in the lane next to you if it's packed so dense everybody is crawling. Traffic doesn't move in a continuous flow, it moves in packs, mobs, with breaks in between. One of the things I noticed a very long time ago, before mobile radar, and used it as a defense strategy. If a car is coming up fast from the rear in the left lane, and passes a group of three or more cars in the right lane, if not one of that group pull out to pass after he goes by them, it's a cop. Now that strategy is outdated, but traffic habits haven't changed except to add more clueless dolts who are now distracted as well. Oh, and there's more angry armed people out there.
There is no line, there is no fast enough. Travel at what's comfortable for you, but always have situational awareness and let faster traffic by.
Two rules of the road:
1- Don't hit the car in front.
2- Don't impede the car behind.
Then you will live long and prosper.
Unique way to
steal a car. I can't embed it though.
I really dislike it when guys (and it is ALWAYS guys) put that on their trailers. If we are gonna flash bewbage, we're gonna do it, demanding takes the fun out of it.
He's just letting the world know he's open to being flashed in case someone gets the urge. Please. :haha:
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He honked for them to move but they didn't so he flamed them. :o
Boys and girls, if you see a tanker laying on it's side... run, don't walk.
I think they were trying to scream the fire out.
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I don't know how that very lucky woman ain't hamburger meat.:headshake
Nice save from a trailer jackknife. Those are HARD to stop. You have to grab the Johnson bar (trailer brake handle) real fast and juuuust apply the brakes to the trailer enough to pull it out without losing control entirely.
Probably hitting the tree helped kick the trailer back over.
I know I would have grabbed my johnson...
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I don't know if it will be visible to all, but...See that water spewing out the exhaust stack? I bet that's not good.
water to water heat transfer makes the radiator very efficient. :rolleyes:
This could be for most any trucking company. The small lettering consisting of old stick on letters half peeled off, at the bottom, says M F DRIVERS ONLY. Can't be male, female, as there aren't any other kind. Monday through Friday Maybe?
Well truly said IO have ni idea about this, but I will share about this with my friends and so sure about that they will have some information about this.
The small lettering consisting of old stick on letters half peeled off, at the bottom, says M F DRIVERS ONLY. Can't be male, female, as there aren't any other kind. Monday through Friday Maybe?
"Members Only"
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HEY!!!! You forgot your rear tires.
Obviously clipped a Jersey Barrier merging or curving and flipped his trailer, which pulled the whole rig over. Nasty to see happen right THERE, I imagine.
No. No one is this stupid. Are there really people this stupid? Tell me there aren't. Please. Lie to me if you must.
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But, but, the Garmin says...
The camera lies.
The rear of the truck is in the gravel parking lot under the wires. He pulled a little out of the way to make room for the forklift to maneuver. He'll be backing up into the gravel parking lot in a minute.
Yes, people ARE that stupid. Bruce
nailed it.I said ya could lie to me, damn.
Now, Johnny Isakson, the senior U.S. Senator from Georgia, wants to keep those trucks from going faster than 65 mph.
“We'll put speed governors on all trucks at 65 miles an hour,” Isakson said. [That] controls the speed they'll go [and] keeps them under the speed limit, which is most times 70 [mph] but is far more safe for the people on the highways with them.”
linkOf course, limit the trucks with expert drivers but not the cars, which essentially have no top limit and drivers who for the most part, learned from a family member at 16 and have had no further training since. I see them all day long, ten to twenty mph over, changing lanes illegally, tailgating, exiting from the left lane, failing to yield the right-of-way and much more.
Big companies are behind the push for a de facto national speed limit on one class of vehicle, a la Canada because it will eliminate the competition from independent drivers who can't haul more but can do it faster than they can.
I would rather see mandatory black boxes in all cars and trucks (we already have them) but coupled to dashcam footage from the front and both sides. Then the lying and misdirections from all involved will cease and have the added benefit of cutting down on frivolous lawsuits.
Well now you're just making sense.
I went and looked up what made them want to put in limits. It was an incident last year, when 5 students were killed when a truck driver was texting and apparently it was porn and he wasn't paying attention and etc.
So this is where "safety" fails us. If he is on that stretch of road at 75 instead of 65, he is actually on it for a smaller amount of time, and less of that time is unattentive. Students are run into at 75 instead of 65, but it probably happens less often.
You could lower the speed to a rate where it guarantees no road fatalities... except for the fatalities where a critical medical package doesn't arrive on time, or because all goods and services are slightly more expensive due to shipping costs... or because we're on I-95 for 27 hours just trying to get to Orlando and we shoot ourselves and our family...
And, really, after my Tesla test drive, I see it's obviously only a few years out: automation is going to address this. Leave the speeds where they are, because the systems will prevent anyone running into students.
At any speed. Raise the limits, that's the future.
When the system gets advanced enough, we won't need traffic signals any longer, and pedestrians will have homing beacons they wear (probably built into their phones) that make the cars stop for them as they approach a curb to cross the street.
Oh that's great, and of course mandatory transponders, especially for the children, won't somebody think of the children? You sure as fuck will when you're tied up in traffic because some kid(s) are playing fucking games. Ever watch a kid keep pushing the pedestrian button, like for an hour? And if the little bastard approaches the curb all the cars stop? How far from the curb? From which direction? Jr on a dead run down an alley or side street can run out into traffic in how many nanoseconds? Oh, and the cars will stop in zero feet? Science, bitches.
You're utopia where anyone can just walk out in the street without fear, will be a fucking nightmare. There is only one way to keep people from getting hit by vehicles, and that's to eliminate one or the other. Building utopia in any existing city is not possible. And don't give me crap about this or that city did this or that to make downtown more "pedestrian friendly". Oh, they closed off two of seven thousand streets, isn't that cute.
Reaction Distance
One such factor is the perception of an impending danger. The driver of a passenger vehicle usually takes 1.5 seconds to perceive a dangerous situation and apply the brakes. This time is about the same for the average truck driver.
Weight
Another factor that impacts the time it takes for the vehicle to stop is the weight of the vehicle. Even though semi trucks have larger brakes than other vehicles, it usually takes the semi truck much longer to stop because of the much larger weight of the semi truck. Cars have an average weight of 5,000 pounds while a semi truck can weigh up to 80,000 pounds.
Therefore, a car takes about 124 feet to come to a stop when traveling at 40 miles per hour from the time that the driver perceives the danger. In comparison, a truck driver takes approximately 169 feet from the danger perception time when traveling at the same speed.
Speed
A critical component of calculating stop times is to know the speed that the vehicle was traveling right before the accident. The faster the vehicle is traveling, the longer it will take to come to a complete stop. In comparison to the figures noted above, a passenger vehicle will take about 316 feet from the awareness point when traveling 65 miles per hour. The semi truck takes about 525 feet before coming to a complete stop.
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So with your magic braking system cutting the 1.5 seconds reaction time to near zero(which I doubt unless your brakes are going to lock up the moment it senses there
might be a danger), at 65 mph you start stopping 140ish feet sooner. It still takes 316/525 feet to stop,
IF it's perfect traction, perfect mechanical condition, and the acquired target isn't too smart.
Some truck driver jerking off on a smartphone? It doesn't matter what speed he's going. No technology will make that fool safe on the road.
LOL
Yeah. Don't blame me. It's the way the technology is going. If all cars are computer controlled, there is no reason for traffic signals except pedestrians. Pedestrians have a right to cross the street, so you have to find a technological solution.
Look at it this way, you wait for every red light for no reason, or you wait for an occasional pedestrian and have only green lights the rest of the time.
Doesn't matter anyway, you'll be letting the car drive, and you'll just be posting to the cellar. They are going to ban human driven cars eventually.
You're utopia...
And don't call me Utopia.
Hey, we evolved from horse & buggies, to trains, to cars, to planes, to jets. Every advantage is always used, and every big danger, we figure out and are carefully taught. It's not like day one we have nothing, and then day two our worst fears spring to life. But the evolution happens pretty quickly when it needs to, when there's a big advantage.
we're adults, we got this
D'ya ever think about the *crazy* amount of information in your head just about transportation signals alone? Colors of signs, shapes of signs, colors of lines, numbers of lines, colors of lights, placement of lights, implied limits, real limits; everything in our world is oriented around this one system. We spend years learning it.
And, then, BAM!, flying cars.
Yeah. Don't blame me. It's the way the technology is going.
No, it's what urban nerds and control freaks are thinking. It's against the laws of nature, stupid people should die... without reproducing.
If [SIZE="6"][COLOR="Red"]all[/COLOR][/SIZE]cars are computer controlled, there is no reason for traffic signals except pedestrians.
Ever hear of cross streets? Why bother with cars when mass transportation does the same thing? Oh, that's right, that's not feasible for 90% of the country.
Are you going to have traffic interweave? Fine, let the hoofers weave too, or take the pedestrian bridge. Although they're probably not smart enough to use it, or won't look up from their phone long enough to see it.
Hey, we evolved from horse & buggies, to trains, to cars, to planes, to jets. Every advantage is always used, and every big danger, we figure out and are carefully taught. It's not like day one we have nothing, and then day two our worst fears spring to life. But the evolution happens pretty quickly when it needs to, when there's a big advantage.
You do realize there are a lot of people in this country who have never seen a jet plane on the ground, don't you?
we're adults, we got this
We're adults, we don't want or need this.
D'ya ever think about the *crazy* amount of information in your head just about transportation signals alone? Colors of signs, shapes of signs, colors of lines, numbers of lines, colors of lights, placement of lights, implied limits, real limits; everything in our world is oriented around this one system. We spend years learning it.
It's obvious some NEVER ever learn it. But the sum total is a drop in the bucket compared to the useless shit you've cataloged, indexed and stuffed in your noggin, instead of stuff that could save your life.
What does a flashing yellow light mean?
Slow down.
What... does... a... flashing... yellow... light... mean?
Slow down.
What... does..... a...... flashing...... yellow....... light....... mean?
Now there's something that might save my life someday.
Texas...
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I'm going to be on that exact stretch of road Saturday morning.
Looks like a minivan cut off a semi, which rear-ended it, but it was pulling a ramped, empty bed, so when the semi behind that rear-ended the first semi, it went flying through the air like a Dukes of Hazzard episode.
Exactly, and by the skid marks he wasn't on the brakes long before impact.
And the lesson I take away from this is that the red truck filming the whole thing was at a nice safe following distance, so he/she had plenty of time to avoid the whole mess.
High speed traffic without the appropriate following distance is just one idiot away from a disaster. Moron does something stupid and there is no room for the other drivers to avoid.
Idiots shouldn't be. But that's never gonna happen.
So when traffic gets more dense, it needs to slow down so the smaller following distances are appropriate for the speed.
edit: Our red truck is 4 seconds behind the burning truck. 3 seconds should be the minimum, but 4 seconds is even better.
More often than you think..
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Ouch. That can happen. I've bumped a parked trailer or two in my time, no damage of course, but the overhang is something you gotta watch. The truck pulling out was too close on the left side to try to swing wide. Should have gone out straight until the tail was clear, THEN turned.
Hard to tell distances, but it looked like the truck doing the filming was too close for the truck pulling out to pull clear before turning. There was still room to pull further out though.
Some older truck stops have lots designed for the older standard trailer length of 45 feet, not the newer 53 foot ones. They can be very tricky to park and unpark (depark?) in.
Maybe I'm missing something blatantly obvious to everyone else, but why aren't wider parking spaces used and marked out?
Rear overhang less likely to clout adjacent vehicles in the turn?
The more space you got, the more money you might make, so they crowd in as many trucks as will fit on the property.
Maybe I'm missing something blatantly obvious to everyone else, but why aren't wider parking spaces used and marked out?
Rear overhang less likely to clout adjacent vehicles in the turn?
Actually, some new truck stops and a very few older ones are doing just this. Wider spaces, especially in rest stops does help prevent this situation but, as digr said, the more spaces ya got, the more trucks can get in and the more money you are likely to make.
Wait for it.
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Tires explode when they burn. Big Rig tire pressures are northwards of 100 psi.
No idea how that one happened. Mebbe electrical, could have been a tire fire that got out of control, or even a fuel leak near hot exhaust parts. Looks nasty though. Hope the driver got out with his phone, logbooks and paperwork.
A good reason to inflate the tires with nitrogen.
They would still explode. It is the explosive decompression of all the internal pressure suddenly being released as the tire melts away that causes the loud bang, not the gases themselves.
Well, this is a shitty thing to have happen to ya:
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I hope you can see it, all I can see is the black bar.
Here's a
YouTube link.
I thought it was a video by that band The Black Stripes. ;)
I did not know trucks had explosive bm's.
so why was that person driving on the shoulder? And I had assumed that was a fixed camera, but I guess they were videoing too? Umm....?
Dashcams come in many configurations. I run a single in the middle of my windshield for legal protection.
Wow! Now that's what I call service! Usually the roach coach makes us come to him!
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How can that even happen? How'd he get away from the trailer with no drive axle?
The truck was, er, truckin' right along when the extended frame cracked, losing the axles and allowing the driveshaft to drop free. The shaft isn't held in by much, only splines and the universal joints. Remove a joint, the shaft will drop free.
That said, what would cause the frame to crack like that? It appears that the frame was damaged in the past and welded back together, which is illegal.
That driver wins a trophy for most creative crash of the month!
Cool!
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Do not brake check a big rig...
Did that used to be a pickup truck?
The wheels look like an SS Trailblazer.
Looks like a smaller pickup. It had four doors but I don't see any shell as in a cap or SUV-style body shape. Looks more like the bed folded up and over a cab to me.
Yes, this can happen but it isn't very likely. More often, the semi rolls right over the vehicle or it bounces off and is thrown clear like a little toy.
Interesting picture though. Did it come with a backstory?
No, just the picture. Six lug wheels, so some kind of truck/SUV. I suspect there was another rig in front that's been moved.
I've tried to copy and paste at least some of this article, but there's a script running on the site which freezes my computer. This is the best I can do at the moment.
Four Tractor Trailers And A Pickup Were Involved In A Fatal Pileup On Interstate 20.
The driver and passenger of the pickup truck were killed instantly. According to police, the deceased victims were identified at 53-year-old Larry Donnell Adams of Brenton, Louisiana; and 51-year-old Peggy O’ Neal of Bossier City, Louisiana.
LINKGood find, that's it. :notworthy
Did that used to be a pickup truck?
The wheels look like an SS Trailblazer.
Looks like a smaller pickup. It had four doors but I don't see any shell as in a cap or SUV-style body shape.
Looks like it says "Silverado" on the lower part of the driver's door.
Two people were killed in a tragic chain reaction pileup involving four tractor trailers and a pickup truck.
The incident occurred around 6 p.m. on the eastbound lanes of I-20 in Carroll County, Georgia.
WSB-TV reported that a semi truck was driving near Georgia 113 when it rear-ended a second semi truck.
The force of the collision launched the second truck into a pickup, completely crushing it.
The second truck continued into a third tractor trailer, which then hit a fourth.
The driver and passenger of the pickup truck were killed instantly. According to police, the deceased victims were identified at 53-year-old Larry Donnell Adams of Brenton, Louisiana; and 51-year-old Peggy O’ Neal of Bossier City, Louisiana.
The first semi truck driver was airlifted to a hospital with unknown injuries. No other injuries were reported.
Traffic delays were extensive as all eastbound lanes of Interstate 20 were shut down for over 5 hours. Motorists traveling eastbound on the highway were either diverted at Highway 27 or advised to seek alternate routes.
Charges are pending while the incident remains under investigation.
From
here. Be warned there's something wonky there. Maybe to do with Flash. I turned off Flash in Firefox and the site was ok.
B-61 Mack, and after all that, another red light...
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That's rowing yer own right there.
Whoops.
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I had to back it up and watch it again to see the driver hop out just before the cab went into the water.
That water is so deep, they can just leave it there and keep using that spot to land.
I never ran over any cars in my Peterbilt, but once in Wyoming I was flatbedding. There was black ice on the road. Two vehicles were on the shoulder on the left. I tapped the breaks. The trailer swung sideways with 35,000 lbs. of sheetrock. The back bumper hit the van and peeled the side off. The people from the vehicles were in the meridian talking. I don't know why because the wind was blowing and it was colder than chit. No one was hurt, but by the time I got back they still had googly eyes and one had brown spot on his pants. The only good thing about it was the trooper. She was a stacked blue eyed blonde who was in great physical shape.
tarheel
Supposed to move trailers up to 25 ton, but I can see an itty bitty rock stopping that thing...
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It's just a jumbo-sized power walker, a type of pallet jack.
There are versions available to move rv-type trailers too, costing around $2000. I wanted one until I saw the price. I can see a market in rv dealers and maybe even small freight companies, but a spotter truck can precisely place a trailer faster and more reliably.
Visibility looks to be a major issue with that. You would need two other people to walk with you while you moved a trailer, to watch out for obstructions and help you back it in.
Maybe hire a midget that can see under the trailer. :lol:
Whoops. Must've hit the brakes too hard...
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Never seen that before.
No headache rack? tsk tsk
Improper loading and securement. If that driver lived they will get a huge ticket.
I disagree. Secure straps were evident and properly installed. The straps are to prevent sideways movement of the freight, not to keep it from sliding forward or backward. The headache rack (large metal plate installed on the front of the trailer or rear of the cab) is to deflect the freight upwards and away from the cab or at least over the driver's head. Since there was none, this is the result of a sudden stop.
What happened I think, is they (the shipper) put smaller pieces in the middle and didn't tell the driver. Loads like that are normally easy throw a few straps and maybe some chains to keep that from happening. If that was a live load the driver should have been paying attention, and not allowed them to put loose product in the middle of the stack. What probably happened was some reefer hand who thinks that flat bedders are stupid, and all I need is some straps and a winch bar.
I was a flat bedder for 10 years. Hauled open equipment 49 states and Canada.
And never lost anything off my trailer.
What caused the sudden stop? I don't see tire marks. The front end is not bent on this side view. Trailer is not jackknifed.
tarheel
I would venture to guess a car slowed suddenly in front of the truck. That'll do it every time.
I would estimate the driver is hauling 35k weight. Looks like a busy highway with no outs. The truck would have pushed the car out the way like a freight train. I used to haul 40k of Budweiser from Newark to Greenbay. Once a car ran into the trailer at a light. I didn't feel a thing. A driver on the slab called me on the CB informed me. Oh well. Never heard anything about it. I guess they lived.
tarheel
Twasn't a thing wrong with truck or trailer. I couldn't find anything out the ordinary. It was probably a Volvo if they lived, a KIA if they died. See I didn't go back. I had a load that had to be on time. The trucker who stops to help you is probably an independent. It happened 14 yrs ago so probably they are out the hospital by now.
tarheel
Tried to find this on YouTube, but, no love.
You'll have to make do with
a BaceFook link.
Wow! That looks like a home mover. Somebody just lost a home's worth of belongings.
There does seem to be an inordinate number of these type of accidents at level crossings. (Grade crossings?)
I saw one a few months back where a low loader 'bottomed out' when it crossed a track bed that was higher than the road either side and became stuck. You can imagine the rest.
I just hope no-one was hurt.
CSX Rail just reworked a few of the rr crossings in downtown Digrville a month or so ago. They messed up the lead-up to the tracks at two crossings. Three semis got hung on the rails in two days due to improper re-grading of the roadway. Two of those trucks were struck by trains that allllmost stopped in time. Minor damage to the trucks in both instances, but one of those collisions caused a minor derailment. Had to bring in a crane to reset the front engine.
I guess the loaders nor driver knew better, or somebody added a straw. ;)
Dumbass shoulda put that load over the axels.
tarheel
The load was probably too heavy to put over thee axles. I'm geussing that the trailer itself was at fault and the driver simply missed the cracks in the underside which likely were visible and which showed the need for replacement, as repairs would be dangerous (and illegal).
To heavy for three axles? I only see two on the trailer?
Typo there. I meant to say "the axles" but double-struck the 'e' and didn't notice. Ooopsie.
I'm still wondering wth it is...
This doesn't look like Florida, too many hardwoods.
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This happened a couple of days ago.
I understand that the police have traced the offending vehicle but not the driver.
Tempers really must have been frayed. They'd have stopped for a cup of tea otherwise.
First thing I notice is that this is not a fixed CCTV camera. Someone's operating it, zooming, tracking the action. There must be a team that monitors the motorway cameras and waits for something unusual to go down, so they can capture anything that happens in detail.
First thing I notice is that this is not a fixed CCTV camera. Someone's operating it, zooming, tracking the action. There must be a team that monitors the motorway cameras and waits for something unusual to go down, so they can capture anything that happens in detail.
The Highways Agency is responsible for the motorway cameras which are operated from a number of control centres.
They are primarily used in connection with traffic accidents, breakdowns and congestion management.
I did try to copy and paste the relevant paragraph from the Agency website but, for some unknown reason, random asterisks appeared in the middle of most of the words.
LINK.
Public access to the cameras is permitted, but you have to create an account.
LINK.
ETA It is possible to see still images from the HA cameras on the travel section of the
BBC website.
Not perfect, but it will give you an idea. Click the traffic camera symbol as it's disabled by default.
Here's something Pam doesn't see every day... at least not yet.
Fuel's included, nice. I wonder if a
broom is standard equipment as well.
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The technology was developed by John C. Stennis Space Center to visually assess the presence, location, and extent of hydrogen fires. The need for such equipment was generated by the center's use of more than one million gallons of liquid hydrogen per month in its rocket engine test programs. Indeed, hydrogen fires are a significant risk.
Previously, firefighters responding to a hydrogen fire had to give the suspect area "the broom test" by carefully probing the suspect area with a corn straw broom to determine the presence and location of a fire. This technique has significant safety and accuracy shortfalls, particularly in windy outdoor conditions where flames can easily change direction.
I've heard of these coming. I kind of like the appearance. It reminds me of a bullet train locomotive. It looks like it's fast, even parked.
I don't know that I would be comfortable with hydrogen as fuel though. A fuel leak would be....disastrous... to say the least. Natural gas trucks exist now, but are not living up to expectations and are probably going to quietly disappear pretty soon, or will be relegated to local runs only, or to buses and other such vehicles.
I don't know if it's a forced perspective thing caused by the people in the background or what, but, that thing looks ginormous.:3_eyes:
I mean even more so than a regular semi.
Hydrogen fuel is safer than gasoline.
In a nutshell, hydrogen is more likely to leak than gasoline because it has to be transported under high pressure and the atoms are very small and easily able to escape through smaller holes.
But unlike gasoline, if it does leak, it doesn't hang around or pool on the ground. It disperses faster than most other gasses. It is the least dense gas and will just float right up to the top layers of the atmosphere.
This is a good report on the topic.
In many actual leak situations the key parameter that determines if a leak would ignite is the lower flammability limit, and hydrogen’s lower flammability limit is 4 times higher than that of gasoline, 1.9 times higher than that of propane and slightly lower than that of natural as.
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The conclusion of this study is that in a collision in open spaces, a safety-engineered hydrogen fuel cell car should have less potential hazard than either natural gas or a gasoline vehicle. In a tunnel collision, a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle should be nearly as safe as a natural gas vehicle, and both should be potentially less hazardous than a gasoline or propane vehicle, based on computer simulations comparing substantial post collision release of gasoline and natural gas in a tunnel. The greatest potential risk to the public appears to be a slow leak in an enclosed home garage, where an accumulation of hydrogen could lead to fire or explosion if no hydrogen detection or risk mitigation devices or measures are applied (such as passive or active ventilation).
Great, won't that further destroy the ozone?
I didn't know the answer to this, but looking in to it, it seems that it won't be a problem. The ozone hole was created mainly by CFCs and they have been regulated out of existence for the most part. So the ozone layer is expected to bounce back. Hydrogen also causes ozone depletion, but not as bad as CFCs so the net result is the ozone situation will continue to improve.
I'm no expert though.
Sounds good anyway, thanks.
There's hydrogen already up there anyway. Not nearly as much as other gasses, but...
It's not the hydrogen, it's what comes out of the tailpipe that's the concern. I guess the exhaust from hydrogen burning is better than diesel.
The combustion of hydrogen with oxygen produces water as its only product:
2H2 + O2 → 2H2O
~Wikipedia
Does that apply to our truck's situation. I'm too lazy to find out.
There's hydrogen already up there anyway. Not nearly as much as other gasses, but...
It's not the hydrogen, it's what comes out of the tailpipe that's the concern. I guess the exhaust from hydrogen burning is better than diesel.
I was more referring to Glatt's and Classic's situation up there around post #202.
Yup, just water vapor coming out.
2H2O is Hydrogen Peroxide.
It must be the perspective making the tractor appear so large. Regulations on dimension are carved into stone, so it cannot be larger than regular semi tractor units. 13' 6" is still the max height; anything larger would strike low overpasses or snag overhead wire runs. Neither situation is a good thing.
It's not the hydrogen, it's what comes out of the tailpipe that's the concern. I guess the exhaust from hydrogen burning is better than diesel.
Yup, just water vapor coming out.
Then, what is the concern?
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Don't mess with the darkside...
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Does the water explode?
I'm confused.
No, but any loose hydrogen from the tank/delivery system is dangerous. When I put in a new water heater I was getting what I thought was entrained air bubbles from the faucet. I got curious and ran the water in the bathroom sink for a minute, then shut it off and flicked my Bic. The fireball was three feet high. The sacrificial anodes that come in the heater reacted with my water when it was heated, and produced hydrogen. I read burning hydrogen isn't visible, but the explosion certainly is. :eek3:
It's not the hydrogen, it's what comes out of the tailpipe that's the concern. I guess the exhaust from hydrogen burning is better than diesel.
~Wikipedia
Does that apply to our truck's situation. I'm too lazy to find out.
Yup, just water vapor coming out.
Then, what is the concern?
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Does the water explode?
I'm confused.
No, but any loose hydrogen from the tank/delivery system is dangerous. When I put in a new water heater I was getting what I thought was entrained air bubbles from the faucet. I got curious and ran the water in the bathroom sink for a minute, then shut it off and flicked my Bic. The fireball was three feet high. The sacrificial anodes that come in the heater reacted with my water when it was heated, and produced hydrogen. I read burning hydrogen isn't visible, but the explosion certainly is. :eek3:
Why is what comes out of the exhaust pipe the concern if it's just water vapor? What, coming out of the tailpipe, is gonna go boom? If it's just water vapor coming out of the tailpipe, how is it gonna explode?
I'm only more confused.
I guess the exhaust from hydrogen burning is better than diesel.
If you're going to switch from diesel to something else you have to ask if that something else is going to make nastier exhaust. With hydrogen the answer is no, it's just water vapor.
What don't you understand? Hydrogen is an extremely volatile fuel to handle and transport, but once it's burned it's just water vapor.
Hey.
What comes out of the stacks/tailpipe is just water, water vapor. Period. Not explosive, just water.
However, the fuel, hydrogen, is highly flammable of course. LEAKS of hydrogen, could be trouble, like, the Hindenburg.
Also, leaking diesel, easy to notice, hard to ignite leaking gasoline, easy to notice, easy to ignite. Leaking hydrogen, impossible to notice, and depending on the concentration, explosively easy to ignite or impossible to ignite.
Just crossed convo threads, tailpipe vs leaks.
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Perhaps I can clarify:
Gasoline is red and hydrogen is blue.
Hydrogen as fuel is just an energy transport material anyway.
Getting the hydrogen, which exists around us everywhere in abundance, is the hard part. Making pure H2 requires energy, even though it's right here, no digging required. Electrolysis is a common way to produce it, but then the question becomes, where did the electricity come from to break down the water? And then the same question about the provenance of the energy transport "material" of electricity? (I know it's not a material...).
Wind, solar, hydro? Those sources don't (materially, material, ha!) to an increase of CO2 emissions. But what if it's a coal fired power plant that generates the electricity that decomposes the water that produces the hydrogen that is burned to move the truck? Not as carbon-neutral now, is it?
Right, I don't think hydrogen is a viable fuel because of the high expense of producing it (money and environmental footprint)... unless oil becomes scarce.
If you could just set up a solar panel and make hydrogen all day, wouldn't that be interesting because that would be stored energy?
But it seems to me, if this worked, it would already be happening, cos smarter people than us have considered the problem in detail. Here we are talking about this shit and pretending we know what we're talking about.
And again from thermodynamics, for every ten units of energy to make and store hydrogen, only one unit of energy does productive work.
What creates that hydrogen? Burning oil, coal, etc. Why is it clean?
Hydrogen as a fuel is only a temporary energy storage medium. It is not an energy source. And it must be used quickly because even all pipes and tanks constantly leak hydrogen.
For transportation, nothing has the energy per weight ratio that petroleum provides. That is why research into lithium (stifled since the 1960s) is now occurring in places other than Japan.
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That is why research into lithium (stifled since the 1960s) is now occurring in places other than Japan.
Lithium is a hell of a drug, man.
Lithium is a hell of a drug, man.
But the central committee of the communist party could not enrich themselves on something so useful - for brains and batteries. So they pushed opioids. Opioids are bad for brains and batteries. But opioids enrich and power the 'right' people.
Here we are talking about this shit and pretending we know what we're talking about.
We could be politicians! Or movie stars!
Yesterday at dusk, I passed someone hauling a backhoe, going south on 476.
Some dude was going 65 hauling a backhoe, and switching lanes fast as if they were driving a car. I passed them and did 70 for a while. It's probably twenty years ago, but I remember a story where someone was hauling construction equipment up the Schuylkill Expressway incorrectly, and a piece broke off and killed a woman instantly.
Five miles later, 476 intersects into 95. As usual, there's congestion and a slowdown, just as the ramps and merges are getting started. Two lanes are slowing down quick. Don't cha know, I hear big metal braking sounds and rumble rumble and here comes Mr. Backhoe fast down the skinny right shoulder. He didn't notice the congestion and couldn't slow down, and this was his emergency maneuver.
No doubt, the fuckin' guy was doing 65 right into the I-95 south merge. It can slow down fast, but this was still a light curve at that point.
(For locals, it was just before the MacDade ramp merges in. They guy wound up in the lane that ramp creates, so suddenly he was fine and could merge just like he came up the ramp.)
I imagine Pamela has low respect for these part-timers, who probably get a CDL so they can make an extra hour's wages per day to drive the gear to the site. It's the end of the day, Saturday, you know he was rushing to get home.
Here in KY, I believe you can drive a single axle (maybe dual axle, too) with no CDL if you own the vehicle. I think. I'm wrong a lot. More and more.
UT, what was the tractor vehicle? A pickup or a commercial truck? I have little respect for the guys who haul RVs and small car haulers and such because although they have CDLs and follow the same rules I do, they seem to think they are special and should be catered to everywhere.
Grav, you need a CDL to drive intrastate as well as interstate in any CMV; some rules are suspended if it's a registered farm vehicle but not the license.
CDL is for over 25,000 lbs isn't it?
It was like one of these deals (obviously not this particular company, but this style truck and bed)
Here in the UK in 1997, the unsecured back hoe of a digger being transported as pictured above, swung out and hit a car killing five people in the process.
I remember the accident quite well, but surprised that it was nineteen years ago.
The driver of a low-loader lorry which killed five people has been ordered by court to receive treatment in a psychiatric hospital.
Mark Wade, appeared for sentence at Truro Crown Court after his conviction last month of causing the death of five people by dangerous driving.
Mr Wade was driving a lorry that was carrying a digger. The arm of the digger was not properly secured and swung out hitting the cars behind it.
Judge Graham Cottle said he was satisfied Wade was suffering from a mental illness linked to post traumatic stress disorder and depression.
The judge said two psychiatric reports revealed Wade had been very seriously and deeply affected adding: "You are a decent and hard-working family man who would never deliberately cause harm to another human being."
He said it was very significant that Wade, of Fraddon, west Cornwall, would be haunted by the memory of these events.
The accident happened at 6.30pm on a minor road at Castle-an-Dinas, west Cornwall, on December 15 1995 when Wade was driving the vehicle back to his St Columb depot having started work at 2.58am.
The digger arm swung out into the path of oncoming cars and there was an "explosion of glass and metal" with the roofs of vehicles "peeled open", the prosecution said during the trial. Last month the companies which employed Wade, Bazeley Plant Hire, from St Columb, and Chepstow Plant Hire, from Gwent, were ordered to pay a total of £500,000 in fines and costs after conviction for not ensuring the vehicle was not a risk to safety.
During the trial the Crown said the digger arm on the low loader should have been restrained with a metal pin and chained down but it was not.
Wade had told the jury he had received no instruction from any employer about loading in ten years of work.
He knew nothing about the metal pins used to secure digger arms, nor had it been his practice to chain the bucket arm.
There was a spare chain on the lorry but Wade said he had not used it to secure the digger because: "I thought it was safe".
The judge said he was satisfied in the absence of any training or supervision from either of the other defendants, Wade loaded the excavator in exactly the same way he always loaded excavators.
"You knew no different way. You had been taught no different way. You picked up the job as you went along, in the process learning bad habits. It seems from the evidence you were by no means alone in that," said the judge.
"Had you been properly instructed you would have followed those instructions. So it is the failures of others which are largely to blame for what happened.
BBC Archived article.Why had it never swung out before? What made the turn so centrifugal this time? In decades of people driving unsecured diggers around, no one had ever made a fast turn?
I would guess the bucket must not have been dropped to the deck and the hydraulics must have been somehow inactive?
When I hauled backhoes, I would put the bucket on the trailer deck and put a chain across it. Just to prevent that from happening. Never trust the hydraulics to hold anything. I have never seen a backhoe with a pin to keep the boom from moving.
hmmm... I think Dad's backhoe has a travel pin but I don't think it prevents that. It seems like a simple safety feature to add.
I'm speculating here, and getting a little outside of my knowledge, but that won't prevent me from spouting off. I think built up pressure in the hydraulic hoses tend to keep the shovel in position. If a hose is leaking, the pressure will drop, and the shovel can move then. Maybe a hose or fitting was leaking.
You never trust the hydraulics to hold in transit.
If I personally owned the truck in UT's post, I don't think I need a CDL in KY to drive that truck. As I say, I am frequently wrong.
I did not need a CDL to drive my bucket truck, but, it was a single axle.
Bruce, it's actually 26,001 and over GVW and certain combinations.
Dah rulezThanks, I gave up my CDL when they required testing.
You never trust the hydraulics to hold in transit.
What, like brakes?
He won't talk his way out of this one...
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Asshole. I cannot muster enough "whatever" to care that its a problem anymore.
Drunk fuckers destroy families and lives.
Drunk ƒuckers create families and additional lives.:p:
Drunk drivers, though, agreed.
That was an extremely accommodating officer/Trooper/whatever. Courteous, even.
I have no words. What a discredit to our profession.
Truck drivers are people, people have flaws, some people have huge flaws in jugement, and they're in all professions.
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Been there, done that. Hot tires stopped on ice is bad news.
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That is kinda terrifying. WTF?
Gordon was probably texting Thomas.
OK, but..
What the hell is up with the signals and gates?
From riding the DC subway you should know sometimes that shit don't work.
The gates didn't come down until AFTER the train had passed. Clearly malfunctioning. That is one lucky driver!
I think the lucky driver is the one in front of us who made it safely across. ;)
It looks like he started sliding, realized he wasn't going to be able to stop in time, and then sped up to get at least the cab forward in front of the train.
Any news on what the cargo was? (Edit: nevermind, obviously a FedEx truck carries lots of FedEx packages...)
Is this a thing?
Up here everyone moves to the right side of the road when crossing train tracks. Occasionally, it makes sense in that the middle of the road has frost heaves and is bumpy. But lately I've been noticing people doing it all the time at every crossing regardless of the road surface condition. It's like it's a superstition or something.
Is this just a redneck upstate new yorker thing or am I missing something?
Up here everyone moves to the right side of the road when crossing train tracks.
They aren't already on the right side of the road?
Maybe the right
lane of a four lane crossing?:o
Is the pavement better there? Less traffic so the edges by the rails haven't crumbled away s much?
They aren't already on the right side of the road?
Maybe the right lane of a four lane crossing?:o
The right side of the lane. These are one lane in each direction rural roads.
Is the pavement better there? Less traffic so the edges by the rails haven't crumbled away s much?
But lately I've been noticing people doing it all the time at every crossing regardless of the road surface condition
It's entirely the same, there are no bumps or sharp edges.
Simple. That's what the sheep ahead of him did.
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Last time I checked I got the LiveLeak vids if I used IE. Now they don't show up in IE, either. I hate computers.
I believe Liveleak has stopped embedded video altogether. Let me know if I'm wrong.
My browser shows what your post of what your browser shows.
and about the video... uh oh... it looks like everything is ok, until it isn't.
Kinda like life...everything's ok, right up until it ain't.
he puts the L in parallel parking.
Yikes.
I don't think she sees this every day, but I'm sure she sees stuff just as stupid.
Stupid car driver. They pulled under the truck to switch lanes. The truck driver saw it and stopped. (You can see the wide open road in front of the truck.) And now the car can't pull out because traffic is speeding by and there is no room to merge.
The cut in the concrete looks like the left lane, the one we're in, is merging with the trucks lane.
Yes, I have seen cars slide under high oversize loads. I hate Fast and Furious for this alone.
No, Bruce, I hadn't seen THAT. Not yet, anyway. Pass the eye bleach, please!
I *have* seen sex toys in the trash/on the ground at truck stops. Even the dog, who actually found them, didn't want them! Bad Touch!
Mark your calendar: September 5th, 2017 "Day Without a Trucker" Protest & National Memorial Procession. Spread the word!
Truckers plan to drive past United States Capitol during "National Memorial Procession" to honor 500 brothers and sisters murdered on the job over the past decade and to protest those states that do not allow truckers to carry firearms to protect themselves. You may also participate locally by shutting down for the day. Sponsored by: TRUCKER LIVES MATTER (Small Business in Transportation Coalition).
https://www.facebook.com/events/1280609765310110/What a shame, this drivers load being hijacked while he sleeps.
Bet the driver needed a change of diaper tho!
Even a well-secured load can come through the cab. Should have had a "headache rack" installed. Those are large metal plates designed to angle a shifting load up and over the cab rather than penetrating through.
Now here's something nobody sees every day...
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Top 50 trucking companies, part 1...
You gotta be shitting me.<--Bacefook link.
Dude, look in your mirror occasionally. Damn.
Youtube link to the same incident.
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Wow.
Good old California drivers. Gotta love em.
I have no way to figure this. I can see each side of the story happening, plus three ways it could have happened.
I bet this was either a stupid foreign driver or a rookie who had tunnel vision. There is NO WAY a competent driver wouldn't feel the initial impact and hear the tires squealing not to mention the trailer pulling to the right and not investigate.
Youtube link to the same incident.
Thank you.
I recognized that road, I-15, north out of San Bernardino, well before the narrator spoke it "Cajon Pass". It's a brutal unrelenting stretch of up-fucking-hill for about 20 miles. The truck was in the right hand lane doing his 40 mph or whatever. And *O*blivious, for sure.
Tha's a very rough stretch of road. Not the surface, just the slog. The opposite direction has runaway lanes of cushy beds of gravel where molten brakes go to die. That road's a bitch.
Of all the stupid/bad truck driver videos I've seen, there's a preponderance of Swift drivers. :eyebrow:
Duh, I must be late, everyone's coming back.
Ole and Lena were so excited to get a new cellular phone. Ole was to call when he was on his way home from town. Ole called Lena when he entered the freeway.
"Lena put supper on, I'm on my vay home."
Lena says, "Be careful cause I hear dat some nut is driving the wrong vay on the freevay."
"SOMEVONE? It's worse than that, Lena; where I'm dere's at least a hundred cars going the wrong vay!"
I think 135 ft is overkill but it's good to let him know you're there.
Sneak over to the left a bit and the driver can see your side mirror. Then we know to brake suddenly. :)
Hope Pam doesn't see this too much, at least not personally. :eek:
I have had people toss everything from bolts to spark plugs to firecrackers at me. I call police and report them if I can get their plate numbers. Never lost any glass though. Yet.
Swift drivers again...
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I'd be willing to bet that Pam don't see this shit every day:
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I'm kinda impressed, actually.
So I had to go look up how it's actually done. Time lapse is the key.
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Yeah, I thought the guys in my post were doing it wrong...
but MUCH faster
time lapse? how about lapse in judgement?
Couldn't find an embeddable version, but:
Big Truck Coming Atchya
Gets real at about 37 seconds in.
good times
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Man, there's gotta be a great story behind that sign. :lol:
I used to work at a warehouse that had those signs.
It HAS happened that an inattentive driver has pulled out of a dock with a worker inside but they usually notice when they go to close the doors. Now the warehouses use
dock locks to prevent this.
Please not to rear-end the nuclear fucking missile!!!!
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Big camper towed by incompetent driver on the GSP
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A fool and his camper are soon parted. Sure this little baby has lots of horse power it'll tow that thing with no problem. The worst part is they have know idea what to do when the tail wags the dog. :facepalm:
And THAT is why they call it a headache rack.
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From a description of the same vid at
LiveLeak:
Brand new truck.
Driving through Richmond, VA on a brand new semi truck.
(Added*) The black truck was right behind me, and my left lane was clear.
(Added*) The Toyota Matrix driver was not a female.
The guy in that Matrix either didn't shit for a week, or he didn't stop shitting for a week.
My money says he lawyered up and tried to blame the truck drivers.
Just a quick reminder, don't be an asshole...
When I am dictator, all new cars sold in the US will automatically turn their headlights on when the windshield wipers come on.
Many do now, plus daytime running lights help. It's a law in PA.
Law in KY, too. I remember when it was enacted, we/they actually voted on it I think, it was called Wipers On Lights On.
When I am dictator, all new cars sold in the US will automatically turn their headlights on when the windshield wipers come on.
I like how you said
when...
You don't think he's training all those [strike] glattjugend [/strike] Boy Scouts for nothing, do you. :crone:
I have two cars. Both have daytime running lights, but one has automatic headlights when it gets dark. When it rains, it's almost always dark enough for the lights to come on. Sometimes, though, it's not dark enough, so I have to manually turn the lights on. But when I manually turn the lights on, the dashboard lights that are normally very bright in the daytime, turn down to the dimmer nighttime mode, and I can't read them easily. Can't see the LED information at all. I can drive, but it's like the dashboard is turned off.
My good old Prizm though, is old school, and I just turn the damn lights off and on and manually, and the dashboard lights are not important because there are no LED lights. Gauges are all physical. No electronic screens. It just works.
What do they use for DRLs, LEDs, or fog/parking lights? Mine uses the headlights at reduced power for the DRLs.
Prizm uses separate white bulbs for DRLS. They come on when you put it in gear. and Accord uses regular low beams at reduced brightness.
OK, so the Accord is all set when you go through construction zones or turn the wipers on.
Prizm uses separate white bulbs for DRLS. They come on when you put it in gear. and Accord uses regular low beams at reduced brightness.
When raining, all bulbs including side markers and rear lights also must be illuminated for human safety. DRLs only illuminate front bulbs - and at lower intensity.
well I use Rain-X so sometimes I don't have to use the wipers :p
The easy answer is to let the dumbasses who run dark in the rain/fog/twilight/dawn have at it. They will get crushed and eliminated or at best have to buy new cars that do it for them.
I don't see it every day, some body sees it every day, but yesterday was my day...
I missed the deer that tried to get me to run into it by... less than a foot as it approached from the right shoulder at a hundred miles an hour. My left front headlight lit up his left rear hip, but missed him, I missed him by > < much. Some car lengths beyond, I applied an urgent amount of brakes. Like it was gonna help.
Just a couple houses behind this close encounter of the deer kind I wondered why the woman walking her dog was stopped in the driveway. As I passed the driveway, I could see she and the dog were checking out two deer at the end of the driveway. Fuckers are everywhere.
Pam doesn't see this every day, nobody sees this every day, but it's some fancy maneuvering.
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Pam doesn't see this everyday either, nobody does.
Truck driver follows GPS, drives nearly 3 miles on Atlantic City boardwalk.
It took four hours to remove the truck from the boardwalk. The Ventnor City Public Works Department was forced to remove 100 feet of railings in order to give the truck enough room to turn around. The cab of the truck was also detached from the trailer. A tow truck was brought in to remove the trailer.
The truck was finally removed from the boardwalk eight hours after it first got on the boardwalk.
City officials will be inspecting the boardwalk for any structural damage caused by the wayward truck.
Police say that drugs and alcohol were not a factor in the incident.
:lol:
Three miles he went, and he wound up in Ventnor where the boardwalk STOPS... so he got onto it literally at the other end. Drove the whole thing.
He says he got on at Albany Ave, how far is that from the end? Doesn't look like 3 miles from the map.
Yeah that makes a lot more sense, it means he didn't drive past all the casinos but is more like 2 miles.
You can skip the first 20 seconds...
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Train shoulda put a handkerchief, or a shop rag on the end of the load.
re: the log truck. Yes, I do see such things commonly. The rear dolly wheels are remotely steerable to enable tighter turns than would be possible with standard fixed wheels. Many oversize loads use these, although you can't tell just by looking unless you know exactly what to look for.
Still, I grade that driver a nine point eight for difficulty.
Stupid is as stupid does...
Maybe stupid. Maybe just ignorant.
I suspect they have learned their lesson with this particular danger. Too bad they didn't learn it in driver's ed.
Too bad they didn't learn it in driver's ed.
If only there was someway to warn people not to do things common sense [strike]would[/strike]
should keep them from doing...
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Maybe they were in hurry...
When a truck driver is making a turn like that do they normally glance in their side view mirror to see if some fool is trying to squeeze by?
I'm not saying they are required to. Just - is it common to do so?
For the good/considerate drivers, probably.
I once had a trucker who was beginning a wide-angled turn like that, who saw me coming up the far left lane and stopped to see what I would do. Since I noticed him wanting to make that turn, I stopped and let him continue.
I once had a trucker who was beginning a wide-angled turn like that, who saw me coming up the far left lane and stopped to see what I would do. Since I noticed him wanting to make that turn, I stopped and let him continue.
You're wonderful. I love people like you.
When a truck driver is making a turn like that do they normally glance in their side view mirror to see if some fool is trying to squeeze by?
I'm not saying they are required to. Just - is it common to do so?
Once he does that he has a shitload of other things to watch for, too many to keep checking for some fool trying to sneak by.
I once had a trucker who was beginning a wide-angled turn like that, who saw me coming up the far left lane and stopped to see what I would do. Since I noticed him wanting to make that turn, I stopped and let him continue.
I do everything I can to get by them, but I know what they're likely to do, what common sense says they have to do.
Going north on 322 today, it's mostly 2 lane with a center turn lane, and no passing for miles and miles. One short section up the hill in East Brandywine Twp, it's two lanes to the light at the shopping center and a couple hundred feet later it narrows to one lane. Of the three cars in front of me, two pass the truck but the third is pacing the truck despite my threats of castration and disembowelment. Sure enough the fool wakes up and scoots ahead at the last minute. I could have too but the truck has to move over, and would have to brake if I did, which would break his momentum and slow everyone behind me when he did merge. So I waited and let him pull over.
Now before you think I'm Mr nice guy, I was coming out RTE 30 from Lancaster, and it's from five lanes with a center turn lane, shopping on both sides, and a ton of lights. Then it narrows to three with a turn lane, so no passing for a zillion miles. I spot three trailer trucks ahead with about a half mile to the merge. Before I can get there the third, a cattle hauler, moves into the left lane. He's slower at the lights but not enough to get by. The other two beat him to the merge and I followed them and cut him the fuck off. He had to lock 'em up to a full stop. He deserved it.
I once squashed a Grand Am at Bridge and State just that way; he tried to sneak past me and paid the price.
Then he had the nerve to sue and won because Philly is the personal injury capital of the US and my lawyer basically doodled and tried to stay awake.
I figure by the time he paid tax and his lawyer, he had enough left to buy another used Grand Am. And yes, I had that same sign on the back of my trailer at the time.
Well no every day as the wild herd rarely sleeps during the day.
They look like scared goats.
High straight-line wind. Very dangerous, esp on bridges.
High straight-line wind. Very dangerous, esp on bridges.
Does driving slower increase safety? Or does speed increase a downward force on the trailer?
Slowing down is important. It mitigates a possible crash.
The aerodynamics of a boxy trailer do not lend themselves to downward forces sufficient to hld the trailer down. They are built with the freight (up to 46,000 lbs) to provide the downward force.
Areas prone to high winds, such as Laramie, WY along I-80 have light trailer bans in windy winter conditions due to the dangers.
The aerodynamics of a boxy trailer do not lend themselves to downward forces sufficient to hld the trailer down.
So drivers still do not have options to compensate for hazardous wind conditions - in WY or on the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge in NYC.
Nope. The only option is to play the safety card and refuse to drive in high wind.
Ya oughta put something heavy in there.
Hi Pam. I don't see how you do it with the wind. I had problems driving a van outside of Barstow, can't imagine a big rig.
Slab-sided GrandCherokeeOne gets a bit o' buffeting, too. More than I would have thought. I mean, from outta nowhere, it'll take off across the road on ya.
I prolly couldn't even in a big rig.
Heh, free association, "big rig":
Oh, there's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 wheeeeels on a bigrig. And they're rollin', rollin', rollin'...
Rollin', rollin', rollin'.
Wheeeeee!
Driving a VW bus isn't often exciting, but it can be very exciting on a windy day.
They are light and voluminous.
aside: Did you know the first generation split windshield van/bus had a lower coefficient of drag than the beetle?
Of course side wind was another matter. ;)
Increasing the distance between the high pressure bow and the turbulent stern helps reduce the overall drag coefficient.
Advantage: microbus
According to the Department of Labor’s Bureau of Labor Statistics, 786 truck drivers were killed on the job in 2016.
That’s 78 percent of the 1,012 motor vehicle operator fatalities reported for the year.
Across all occupations in the U.S., there were 5,190 fatalities reported, an increase from 4,846 in 2015.
Construction had 970 fatalities
According to NHTSA data, which was collected from all 50 states and the District of Columbia, 37,461 lives were lost on U.S. roads in 2016, an increase of 5.6 percent from calendar year 2015.
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Since Bruce's numbers come from the Department of Labor, I think the 1,012 motor vehicle operator fatalities are professional drivers. Truck drivers are going to be the lion's share of paid drivers. But you also have bus, taxi, limo, and probably others.
I think the 1,012 motor vehicle operator fatalities are professional drivers. -Glatt
That's what I got out of it, too. I knew the overall number of totaled drivers had to be more than that.
But, yeah, pro drivers, Ima thinkin'.
I'm hoping he doesn't see this every day. :eek:
Almost looks like a suicide...
Like a giant Pez dispenser.
Wrong tractor for that shit...
A headache rack would have prevented that.
So, too, would a properly secured load.
An item on the website of
Mix 96 a local commercial local radio station caught my eye this morning.
I'd probably have gasped and moved on to the next bit of news but for the fact I know the stretch of road reasonably well and would have been hard pressed to believe the report if there'd been no video.
Bentley ploughs into pensioner's car at 85mph in Amersham
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From the Daily Mail...
A speeding Bentley Continental GT appears suddenly from nowhere and smashes into a 4X4 spinning the vehicle 360 degrees into a garden wall.
The dramatic 85mph collision, captured in this terrifying dash cam footage, happened along a 20mph road in picturesque Old Amersham in the Chiltern Hills.
Miraculously the driver of the Ford 4x4, pensioner Tim Edwards, 74, survived the horror crash.
The driver of the Bentley, Richard Plumb, 46, fled on foot but was traced by the blood left on the airbag of his car.
He pleaded guilty to dangerous driving and failing to stop after a road accident and was jailed for 14 months with a driving ban of four years and seven months.
Snip...
Mr Plumb, from Hazelmere, Buckinghamshire, admitted both charges at Wycombe Magistrates Court on October 16 and was sentenced at Aylesbury Crown Court last month.
One can only speculate about the reasons for Mr Plumb departing the scene with such haste so I'll let you draw your own conclusions.
There's no mention of when the collision took place but if the dashcam time stamp is correct it happened nearly four years ago only coming to court last October. Yet another unexplained oddity.
Lastly, that Bentley will set you back £160,000 which is about $221,500.
I expect that the driver's actions, assuming he was the owner, will have invalidated his insurance cover, if he had any, so that will have made his eyes water.
BTW, the speed limit is 30mph at the crash site.
You can see the
video here.
You can see the video here.
Thanks, Bruce. I wonder why it has been withdrawn.
It was embedded in the Mix 96 report so gone from there as well.
These things happen. :(
ETA. It's found a new home here, but for how long?
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What the hell are those things for anyway, trying to slow traffic?
At least they could create revenue with photo-radar boxes instead.
What the hell are those things for anyway, trying to slow traffic?
Otherwise known as 'traffic calming'. I recall that they appeared at the same time the bypass was opened which is the usual arrangement.
They were installed as a deterrent measure on the basis that when the bulk of through traffic is using the bypass, there is always somebody willing to cheat and drive through the town in the expectation of the road being more or less clear and would probably do so at excessive speed.
To the trivia now...
At the other end of the High Street is the Crown Hotel which is where scenes in Four Weddings and a Funeral were filmed and the Market Hall on the other side of the road has been used as a location in Midsomer Murders.
Street View
On second thoughts, delete 'trivia' and insert 'added value'. :)
Hopefully doesn't see this often. :greenface
Trailers, never have too many trailers.
Oh, and this is what sleepers use to look like...
The traffic cone storage makes it look especially appealing.
> 911. What's your emergency?
> I was driving down the highway when suddenly an air conditioner came through my windshield.
In a large truck stop that A/C plugs in so the truck doesn't have to idle to keep the sleeping driver cool.
That's fine and dandy, as long as he takes the 5 minutes to set it up at each stop and takes it back down again before driving away.
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Yikes! I'm not sure I pass there.
Well, he did his pass at 8 mph, so, reaction time was not an issue. Truck driver needs a a sea anchor..
He's tacking into the wind like a good sailor.
Truck carrying short logs hits a truck carrying long logs.
Driver in serious but stable condition.
Here's a long shot from a news chopper.
Here's a long shot from a news chopper.
Apparently he thought he was in an
Uber truck.
Off with his/her head!!
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Wow. That goes beyond bad judgement. There is something wrong with that person's brain. Or they are driving for the first time ever and have never been in a car as a passenger. They don't get it.
Here's something Pam doesn't see every day. Guy on the bridge threatening to jump. State Police directed cars off the freeway and directed 13 trucks to park under the bridge until they talked the guy down 4 hours later.
Was recently drinking coffee with some truck drivers. Their biggest complaint about the NE corridor - no parking
One had a problem. His ten hours was up while stuck waiting for the scales. And no nearby parking available. In hindsight, yes. Truck traffic has easily doubled. And yet I see few to no new parking areas. I have seen truck parking areas that were closed - all full up.
I heard about that incident. I wonder how they explained that one to their respective dispatchers. The e-log has no mercy.
Wouldn't the e-log show them as stopped? Just need a note from [strike] Mom [/strike] Mr Policeman.
I wonder how they explained that one to their respective dispatchers.
When free parking is made available, don't you take advantage of it?
Wonder how it went in the log?
Down time? Or driving time?
You're not driving, but you're on the road.
Technically, the time would be logged on Line 4, On Duty Not Driving.
Any interaction with police, DOT or emergency services must be logged that way. And the fourteen hour clock keeps running nonstop unless you log a minimum of eight hours in the sleeper berth.
This will likely qualify under the Adverse Driving Conditions rule, which allows for up to two hours additional driving time due to unforeseen events which could not be reasonably be predicted at the start of the day.
The split break rules are not well understood and caused many violations in the paper log days. Elogs have eliminated this.
Learn about split breaks
here, if you are interested.
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I remember that, it was like 10 years ago wasn't it?
Well, it was in that day's headlines, but, you are correct.
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I remembered it, too, but, thought it had happened again.
My apologies.
Apologies for what? Still an interesting story. :confused:
Kinda like me, now.
I turned 50:thepain: the other day.
Old, but, still interesting.:crone:
Welcome to the Golden Years. :thumb2:
I turned 50:thepain: the other day.
You still will never be a Golden Girl.
I knew Betty White. Sir, you will never be a Betty White.
God I hope I don't live that long.
God I hope I don't live that long.
What? You don't want to do Saturday Night Live? Assuming it lives that long.
Kinda like me, now.
I turned 50:thepain: the other day.
Old, but, still interesting.:crone:
Life gets better after 50: why age tends to work in favour of happiness
Academics have found increasing evidence that happiness through adulthood is U-shaped – life satisfaction falls in our 20s and 30s, then hits a trough in our late 40s before increasing until our 80s.
Forget the saying that life begins at 40 – it’s 50 we should be looking toward.
The GuardianBoth my grandfathers died at 50 w/heart issues.
I'm just a tad apprehensive.:)
But they were both married. ;)
Not at the time...But, accumulated damage, I get it.
Both my grandfathers died at 50 w/heart issues.
I'm just a tad apprehensive.:)
If you're really apprehensive, ... the lunch thread is the low hanging fruit #voiceofexperience Sodium is *not* your friend.
Here endeth the sermon.
Something about what I eat?
I got no friends worth shit. I got no family worth shit. I got nothing but food, drink, and drugs.
I ain't slowing down on none of that shit.
But Ima bitch til I do die do die do die do. Brace for it.:)
My apologies for the thread drift.
So what has Pam seen lately? Or can the eyes only take so much?
I got nothing but food, drink, and drugs... :)
And the Cellar. You've got the Cellar. And we've got you. :D
And the Cellar. You've got the Cellar. And we've got you. :D
You people
are one of my drugs.:D
Something Pam never sees. In Germany when there's a traffic tie up everyone pulls off to the side to leave the center open for emergency vehicles.
It's not just a good idea, it's the law.
Here, ya get a ticket for blocking the emergency lane.
And obstructing emergency vehicles.:neutral:
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Van launched into the air during Attleborough crash
Dashcam footage has revealed the moment a van launched into the air after hitting a roundabout on the A11 in Norfolk.
The silver van had just overtaken another vehicle as it was approaching the junction on the dual carriageway near Attleborough on 1 September.
No other vehicles were involved and the van landed on the roundabout.
Three people suffered non life-threatening injuries in the crash, police said.
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Not an unusual occurrence. A couple of years ago I saw a car crashed on the grass verge adjacent to a roundabout similar to that shown in the video, with an ambulance in attendance.
I'd noticed tyre marks on the sloping edge of the roundabout diametrically opposite to where the car had come to rest and a damaged sign, but the grass surface in the centre was unmarked.
The only conclusion that could be drawn was that the vehicle had been airborne for the entire crossing!
Earlier this week on the weekly food shopping trip there was a small car actually on a roundabout in a state of some disarray with a 'Police Aware' sticker on it.
I've only ever seen one accident happen and it frightened the living daylights out of me.
Both occupants survived but it's a mystery to me how they got away with it.
Much quicker to go over it...
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I think the word you're looking for is stupider.
Earlier this week on the weekly food shopping trip there was a small car actually on a roundabout in a state of some disarray with a 'Police Aware' sticker on it.
Heh... "Police Aware" is so adorably British. I can only imagine the American version of such a thing.
"We'll get to it when we get to it - Fuck Off"
Somebody stole the bridge...
...right out from under him!:eek:
Somebody stole the bridge...
View the guard rail. It was not a bridge.
Then how do you explain the concrete abutment on the far side?
View the guard rail. It was not a bridge.
Whatever it was, it crossed water.
Bridge - Close enough for non-contrarians everywhere.™
"Bridge" is the new "capsize"
The headline says a bridge gave out, but the reporter on the scene says saturated ground crumbled away. Probably a culvert pipe.
You can see in the picture the water had come over the top on both ends of the bridge by the way the grass on the right is laid over. Looks like it washed away the road then the bridge went with no support behind the near side abutment.
Then how do you explain the concrete abutment on the far side?
A rather interesting question. Supports for the guardrails were driven in dirt - not driven through a bridge. Above the embankment and below pavement is dirt. So what is called a bridge may have been some type of tunnel. That explains why the nearside has no concrete abutment. But does not explain why the far side abutment is so high.
Meanwhile grass on the shoulder also implies the shoulder over the 'bridge' was dirt.
Maybe a bridge was once there and replaced by a pipe that was covered by dirt. Therefore someone replaced a bridge on the cheap apparent with a pipe that was too small.
Look closely at skid marks maybe 75 feet long. That trucker apparently knew something was wrong and tried to stop.
Let's just call it a culvert.
Next. ;)
The view from the road before hand doesn't really show what is there under the roadway. You can see the guardrails get a little taller as they go over something. This is 2.95 miles north of the Chesterfield SC crossroads on RT 145.
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As far as I can judge from the picture in Post #441, it would seem to qualify as a bridge culvert.
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LinkTruck drivers a restless, pissed off, over worked, and underpaid, so the yearly
turnover rates reflect that.
Large carriers (over $27 million) = 98%
Small carriers (under $27 million) = 72%
Single and split load carriers = 14%
Overdrive98% of 18-wheeler drivers quit after a year on the job?
Yes, but not quit driving, mostly change companies.
Trucks are cool.
*ahem*
Let us all bear witness to the *awesome* power of moving water.
98% of 18-wheeler drivers quit after a year on the job?
Werner said my day off was the rest periods between driving. I once drove 9 weeks to get 9 days off for dental work. Got home 3 days late and they wanted me back on the scheduled day. I said fuck you motherfucker if I don't get my days you can come get the fucking truck. So I went back after 9 days off and the pricks never said a word.
I quit after 2 yrs and it was an interesting experience. The way the different state laws fuck the truckers in the ass without the benefit of anal lube. You know products would be a little cheaper if a owner/driver didn't have to go to the state capital for a tax sticker.
Back to the experience. I saw the border in El Paso, the Golden Gate which is brown, the north rim of the Grand Canyon, Las Vegas, Las Angeles, Sturgis. Idk I have been everywhere, but Canada. I couldn't go there as I had a DUI in Jersey in 87. Since 03 when I quit I heard they changed the law up there. Trump probably wanted to visit.
I want to ride up to Jim's house in the spring, but don't want to take 95 through Philthe. All that traffic is right scary after living 25 yrs in the country. Maybe I will take the ferry. There are a few people to see on the way up in Gettysburg and my father's cousin in MD. Got to beat the heat and humidity of the southern states so I will have to think about what month to start. Well I see I am rambling, but I feel so much better.
Let us all bear witness to the *awesome* power of moving water.
Werner said my day off was the rest periods between driving. I once drove 9 weeks to get 9 days off for dental work. Got home 3 days late and they wanted me back on the scheduled day. I said fuck you motherfucker if I don't get my days you can come get the fucking truck. So I went back after 9 days off and the pricks never said a word.
Good on ya. Fuck 'em! :D
Back to the experience. I saw the border in El Paso, the Golden Gate which is brown, the north rim of the Grand Canyon, Las Vegas, Las Angeles, Sturgis.
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Here's a thing I've wondered about for awhile, and it just occured to me to mention it in this thread:
I live in a pretty rural area of SW Washington, but I often see big rigs rolling down the country roads nearby. About a year ago, I learned why - seems these truckers are ditching I-5 just south of me and rejoining it just north of me, all to avoid an interstate weigh-in station.
Do trucking companies tell their drivers to do stuff like this as a matter of course? Or are the drivers going rogue? And why exactly would a driver want to avoid a station - maybe they know their rig isn't really safe? maybe their load is illegal? avoiding a delay/fees on the road between Portland OR and Seattle WA? What?
Thank you in advance for any enlightenment y'all might have. :yesnod:
Drivers for big companies have little or no control over the load. Owner/operators will sometimes carry more than legal.
Drivers for big companies have little or no control over the load. Owner/operators will sometimes carry more than legal.
Ahh . . . That makes sense.
That is true. Especially so for livestock, gravel/sand/dirt haulers and car carriers.
Jumping scales is illegal and the DOT knows which roads are commonly used for this purpose. They park portable scales at strategic points on those routes to snag unwary illegal truckers.
I have avoided scales from time to time for various reasons but not as a habit. Normally, I run legal.
I will offer another reason for truckers taking back roads.... the rise of the GPS. Sometimes the little box takes you on the scenic route to save you a few measly miles but adds an hour onto the trip. More than once, my GPS has told me to get off a freeway, take the frontage road for two miles, then get back onto the freeway! Why? It cuts a corner by a fraction but the traffic lights and lower speed limits make such a detour impractical. It is faster and safer to just stay on the freeway.
GPS is also a generic term for the routing software that many companies use called PC Miler. It finds the shortest route from A to B that is allegedly truck legal (not always true) so they can shave off a few miles that they don't have to pay you for. Using the HHG (HouseHold Goods) option only gives the mileage from one ZIP Code to another, which is what most if not all moving companies charge a customer (and pay the driver). This tends to cut off about ten percent of the actual (hub) miles the driver drives, thus underpaying him. Practical miles is more fair and is getting to be the industry standard nowadays.
My company pays practical miles, and pays fairly well too. I can't complain about that, although I do route myself rather than follow their sometimes convoluted route. Like everyone else, they say the routing is "suggested", thus letting themselves off the hook should their routing run a driver onto a no-truck road or into a low clearance. The difficulty of getting a semi out of such a situation can be tricky and at times involve heavy wreckers to get you back where you should be. The bosses will always say that the driver is responsible for following all laws and routing restrictions, which is nearly impossible given the ever-changing whims of towns and counties regarding heavy trucks on back (non-STAA) roads. I simply take that disclaimer to mean "ignore our routing and do it yourself".
Take my route for this trip from Minooka IL to Fulton, MO for example. The company route took two pages of local roads, back country two-laners as well as interstate highways. They offer 329 paid miles for the run. I looked at the route on my GPS, consulted my trusty Rand-McNally atlas and decided to run I80-I55-I72 to US54 into Jeffersonville, then west to the customer. Total miles:334. Sure, I lose $2.65 doing it my way, but I save a good two hours of driving on local roads, through tiny towns and possibly no-truck zones to stay on highways where it is faster and much safer for me. Totally worth it to me.
So the trucks going through your area may not be scale-jumping at all but following GPS routing instead.
Good on ya. Fuck 'em! :D
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I think it should be gold flake. A pilot should be able to see that.
53 cents a mile?
Sounds like alot dosen't it? When I drove for Werner my mileage pay stopped at the town limits although I was still driving. It might take 2 hours through Houston and I wasn't getting paid.
No, it doesn't sound like a lot to me. :headshake
No, it doesn't sound like a lot to me. :headshake
53 cents a mile at 60mph is about $30/hr. Way less if you hit traffic or wind up in a city.
In a hypothetical job, you could start off in a city and travel 10 miles in the hour it takes to get out of town, drive for 8 hours at 60mph, and then hit your destination city and get stuck in traffic again for an hour to go 10 miles.
That works out to $26.50/hr.
That's only when you're moving, there can be a lot of down time at both ends and things like scales and fuel stops that eat up your time on the job you're not getting paid for.
These screen grabs are from a YouTube video and self evidently the quoted vehicle is of interest to the police.
Please could you tell me the significance of 'Amber Alert'?
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Amber Alert means that a child has been abducted, or is missing.
Amber Alert means that a child has been abducted, or is missing.
Thanks for that, fargon. :thumb:
Thanks for the link Mr G, I'm grateful to you.
My assumption was that it was one of a number of coloured alerts each with a defined meaning.
There are also Silver Alerts for missing old folks with dementia. But those are the only two.
For the sake of completeness, it was from this video at about the 2 min 49 sec mark.
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Bruce, you are correct on all counts.
I only look at my W-2 at the end of the year to determine how much I made (gotta have a metric!) and next year (my first full year here) I expect to see a 35% jump in my take-home earnings. Dunno about the bite Uncle Sam puts on me yet.
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Where are the railroad crossing pole guards? That's a busy urban intersection, I bet vehicles get hit there all the time.
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He almost made it, just caught the tail end.
ALTO = high, tall, upper, superior, loud, lofty, long, upward, aloud, stop, halt, and standstill.
Obligatorio = required
Aqui = here
I'm guessing it was in another country but I've seen intersections like that here too.
I assumed Mexico. Could be points further south, too.
Do they have traffic signs in both languages in Tejas?
Not that I've ever seen. Road signs are state-mandated designs, so I'd imagine even right on the border they wouldn't risk being so controversial.
High tech trucks...
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"...Embark PeterBLIT"....
Robots, I tell ya.
@4:14 and 4:50
Aargh!!!
Stop calling them cars!
Looks more like trapeze equipment. Now that the circus has closed, would this be a new act for the Flying Wallendas?
I heard that's in Mexico, trucks climbing the hill are given the largest radius on each turn so they can go faster and lose less momentum on each turn.
I looks like an invitation to a head on collision, but when there's a truck coming straight at you most peoples subconscious kicks in causing them to scream, shit, and change lanes. Usually. ;)
I heard that's in Mexico, trucks climbing the hill are given the largest radius on each turn so they can go faster and lose less momentum on each turn.
I looks like an invitation to a head on collision, but when there's a truck coming straight at you most peoples subconscious kicks in causing them to scream, shit, and change lanes. Usually. ;)
I guess that makes sense, but jeez. Couldn't they have made the arrows on the road less whack? :confused:
trucks climbing the hill are given the largest radius on each turn so they can go faster and lose less momentum on each turn.
Interesting--I would have guessed it was for the benefit of the trucks going down, so they could take the inside turn and be less likely to swing outward and fall off the edge. Either way, it looks like top speed is about 30 mph, so it's probably pretty well-controlled.
...causing them to scream, shit, and change lanes.
Not necessarily in that order.
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There are some places where it sure seemed like I did!
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That appears to be one awesome-looking recovery vehicle.
Won't the chocolate harden on the median or wherever it winds up?
It will stink this summer.
Probably gobbled up by summer but lots of diabetic critters in the woods.
They need that overturned truck of bees that happened on I-95 to link up with this. Or... do bees like chocolate anyway?
If it's pure chocolate and not milk chocolate it may not be sweet ??
This is something Pam doesn't see every day, nor do the rest of us.
Reliable sources say 4.4 million, Fox news says 4.6 million. :rolleyes:
Prolly cuz all those ppl he pulled out in front of had decent brakes.
Yeah, I know, but it's happened to me too often lately.
And I ain't over it yet.
I had a woman do that to me not long ago. Pulled out from my right turning left, couldn't see me because she was holding the phone up to the left side of her face like a blinder. :facepalm:
There's a spot on my commute where, on a steep hill, a driveway enters the road from behind a huge tree. I'm always concerned when I see the hood of a car peek out.
Luckily, it's a hospital's driveway, so any casualties won't have far to go.
Pulled out from my right turning left, couldn't see me because she was holding the phone up to the left side of her face like a blinder.
That is exactly why all tinted windows should be banned. In my case, I watched the eyes of that woman holding a cell phone. And was stopping before she even fully turned ... because I could see her eyes and knew she had never looked. I could see her eyes because no windows (front and side) were tinted.
What about the phone on the side of her head? Did ya see through that to see her eyes?
I can't comment for others, because they don't have x-ray vision like moi.;)
Those damn welding filter windows prevent getting a good look at the SOB that has been tailgating you for the last five miles.
There is always just the chance you will recognize him at the store and he won't be twice your size. Or her and her boyfriend won't.
Who needs tinted windows?
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This car was stopped on West Wycombe Road in High Wycombe earlier this morning.
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Please be sensible in this weather and only drive if your journey is absolutely essential.
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I find High Wycombe to be a pretty depressing place.
The only way out is uphill so it takes longer to leave than it does to arrive.
The car above appears to have come from the Downley area of the town which, despite its name, is on a hill.
It's pretty exposed up there which probably explains the accumulation of snow.
Well it would fall off eventually, maybe April, May the latest. :haha:
A lot of cool stuff here in this thread.
There's a spot on my commute where, on a steep hill, a driveway enters the road from behind a huge tree. I'm always concerned when I see the hood of a car peek out.
Luckily, it's a hospital's driveway, so any casualties won't have far to go.
LOL!!
Smartass passenger to panicked passenger upon learning both engines had failed at 10,000 feet:
"How far can we glide? All the way to the crash site!"
"How far can we glide? All the way to the crash site!"
"I bet we beat the ambulance by a half an hour."[/RonWhite]
Yeah, I forgot to credit the inimitable Mr White
Thank you for the correction
Not a correction, sir.
Just kickin' it around.:)
The forerunner of sleeper cabs...
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It's several years since I've driven in the US but I seem to recall that when a police vehicle is parked as above, traffic is required to move across one lane to provide a buffer zone.
Memory is a bit hazy but I remember driving in fairly heavy traffic when everyone moved across as we passed a stationary police vehicle on the hard shoulder.
I think I was on I-25 southbound in either WY or CO.
Possibly State rather than Federal rules?
That video was shot in Pennsylvania. I can tell by the road signs.
That video was shot in Pennsylvania. I can tell by the road signs.
Brief caption in top L/H corner says Dauphin County, PA.
State law passed last year, if a cop is stopped beside the road you have to change lanes or slow down and crawl by him. So he's causing traffic to suddenly slow and backup.
They claim they're trying to stop cops getting hit but the reality is if you do hit them they have something to charge you with.
They claim they're trying to stop cops getting hit but the reality is if you do hit them they have something else to charge you with.
Fixed it.
Yeah, I think on all interstates you're required to pull into the next lane, at the least.
IF YOU CAN SAFELY.
The rule in VA is that you have to change lanes if safe, and if it's not safe you have to slow down by 10 or maybe 15 miles an hour. Seems kind of pointless slowing down on RT 81 where the speed limit is 70. Getting hit at 60 is still gonna do a number on them.
That video was shot in Pennsylvania. I can tell by the road signs.
The Keystone State
Seems kind of pointless slowing down on RT 81 where the speed limit is 70.
Slowing down means each driver has more time to see the problem and find a solution. Furthermore, slowing down by only 10 MPH means almost 40% of energy is removed from the vehicle. That means brakes work that much better (if necessary).
Many states require vehicles to pas all bicycles, pedestrians and 'stopped on the shoulder cars' with at least 4 feet (1.3 meters) separation.
So why was a first truck on the shoulder before a second truck veered off the road?
At what speed does a ten mph reduction represent a 40 percent reduction "in energy"?
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
They claim they're trying to stop cops getting hit but the reality is if you do hit them they have something else to charge you with.
Fixed it.
Why? What are they going to charge you with ?
Yeah, I think on all interstates you're required to pull into the next lane, at the least.
IF YOU CAN SAFELY.
And if you can't, then slow down to a crawl.
At what speed does a ten mph reduction represent a 40 percent reduction "in energy"?
Difference between 60 mh and 70 MPH is 36% more energy.
Energy at 55 MPH is increased by almost 40% at 70 MPH.
Doing only 55 or 60 is a major reduction in the energy that brakes must consume / dissipate.
Why? What are they going to charge you with ?
Vehicular manslaughter, interfering w/police officer, murder, assault of a police officer, reckless driving, take your pick. I'm sure there's more one could conceivably be charged with.
Won't stick without witnesses and proof of intent, as long as he stops. Good idea to move to another state though.
Won't stick without witnesses and proof of intent, as long as he stops.
Give it a shot. Let me know how it works out.
I've seen it happen over and over. When people are driving and focused on something beside the road like a stationary car or flashing lights, they unconsciously drift toward it. It's just an accident, and when the pissed off cops are done writing a bucket of tickets for anything they can think of, the courts take over with a more rational look at what happened and proof of the charges. It just takes time and money. This law makes it easy to prove.
Won't see this very often...
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Given the ease with which the trailer topples in the high wind, it's probably safe to assume that it isn't loaded.
However, once the vehicle is on its side it takes a frighteningly long time to come to rest.
I don't think that the wind had a part to play in that but the kinetic energy involved must have been substantial.
yes, the kinetic energy at play is definitely evident, but I think a lot of the seemingly long time spent skidding to a halt is extended by the kinetic energy of the wind. that rig is still being blown along by the same wind that tipped it over in the first place.
a following sea can be helpful, as long as you want to go where the sea's going. When you try to deviate, the resulting quartering sea can be very dangerous, as the big red sailcraft in the video demonstrates
And the sad part is that the driver of that rig will be hit with a preventable crash, fired and blacklisted.
The powers that be will say he should not have been driving in known high winds with a light load. At the same moment, that driver will be hearing his dispatcher reminding him that he is on a "hot" load that absolutely MUST deliver on time.
Can't win either way. I've been in that situation myself. I just refuse to drive and lay down the safety card. Most dispatchers won't try to fight that and just reschedule that hot load. I just came up Fancy Gap two days ago in high winds, but I had over 41,000 lbs in the box and was pretty safe from a blow-over but a Fed Ex driver in WV wasn't so lucky and he lost his rear trailer and plugged up the WV Turnpike for quite a while while the wreckers unscrambled that mess.
Blow Overs are more common in Wyoming around Elk Mountain and Laramie where wind gusts over 70 mph are not uncommon. I've been shut down there waiting for the wind to lessen enough to roll out along with lots of other light loads and empties. I recall one time where even parked, my trailer was rocking so badly that it was knocking against the trailer next to me. That driver and I just kinda shrugged and dropped our landing gear as best we could to try to mitigate the banging and resultant trailer damage. Hell of a dangerous thing, high winds.
Pam's not seeing these as they're strictly Aussie born and raised...
Shit, ain't ~70 tires enough?
He also has a scissors jack and lug wrench. :lol:
All ya need is a can o' air...
I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised that this still happens but I raised an eyebrow at the time taken before the driver decided to stop.
Perhaps that's an unfair criticism as people don't all behave in the same way in an emergency.
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It happens everywhere, some places repeatedly, but this guy apparently took awhile to figure out what happened. He felt a small jerk and heard a noise and probably looked at his engine gages instead of the mirrors.
It happens everywhere, some places repeatedly, but this guy apparently took awhile to figure out what happened. He felt a small jerk and heard a noise and probably looked at his engine gages instead of the mirrors.
Blackthorn railway bridge just outside Bicester on the Aylesbury side has been repeatedly struck by overheight vehicles despite all manner of warning signs starting several miles away and on the bridge itself.
I was once following a large vehicle carrying a detachable container used for transporting scrap metal.
As it approached the bridge the driver slowed to a snail's pace and all seemed well until the truck was all but entirely beneath the bridge. That's when the fun started.
On the top rear corner of the container was a triangular steel fillet welded to a piece of vertical pipe, which I understand is to facilitate stacking of containers.
As the truck inched forward the fillet came into contact with the outside lower edge of the bridge and gradually the whole ensemble was pressed down on the springs.
Unfortunately, as it moved forward the fillet and pipe structure instantly rose and it became stuck in the corrugated underside of the bridge deck.
I don't know how it was removed but, if pressed, I'd say that deflation of tyres probably featured quite prominently in the recovery plan!
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The 11Foot8 bridge is represented on a bunch of Youtubes.
Have to admit a minor addiction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USu8vT_tfdwThe 11Foot8 bridge is represented on a bunch of Youtubes.
A national standard was created in the early 1950s: 14 feet. Any bridge that does not meet that standard should have been removed or fixed long ago.
Nobody should be expected to always see a sign (ie 11'8"). A human who is reading is not (cannot) see moving traffic. Expecting a human to constantly shift from and to 'text processing' creates fatigue. And does not always happen.
At a minimum, a 14 foot pole over the road with many chains hanging from that pole should be installed on approaches to and on both sides of that bridge. Then the obvious noise of chains warns a driver of a defectively installed and maintained bridge.
Rather than blame persons and reason for that defect, we blame a driver for doing what drivers cannot do every time. No driver is expected to see those text numbers every time. So many videos demonstrate the problem - that bridge and the problem people who will not fix it.
Some bridges are located over a low spot in the road. So a long trailer that is only 11' 4" high can still strike an 11' 8" bridge. Is that a driver's fault that the sign is also wrong? No. That is a bridge that should have been at 14' - generations ago.
14 foot for interstate highways only. That was for missile carriers clearance. Then they raised it to 16 feet but backed off when they found what it would cost to retrofit the whole system.
There was never any intention to make everything 14 feet. That would bankrupt the country. On the low bridges commonly hit they have tried warning boards hanging low, flashing lights, and signs up the wazoo, with little effect. You can't prevent stupid.
There was never any intention to make everything 14 feet. That would bankrupt the country.
Nonsense. A bridge is simply jacked up and the roadway (that gets replaced every 10 years) is adjusted. It was recently done in one town so that fire engines could get to the other side of town. It cost very little to hydraulically raise the bridge and pour reinforced concrete on the existing supporting walls.
Anytime a bridge gets rebuilt - it is automatically raised. But we do not do that when naysaying cost controllers cry it costs too much and has no puirpose. After all, the destructive of trucks does not appear on those bean counter' spread sheets. So raising a bridge is an unnecessary expense. Using same business school reasoning that also created the Flint water crisis.
An interstate standard height is (should be) standard for all bridges. We have no problem spending more money (than the entire economy of India - $3 trillion) on lies for Mission Accomplished. Then have no money to fix the infrastructure. We would rather waste 5000 American soldiers on an obvious lie rather than fix glaring defects.
Took friends from Europe to NYC. They were shocked at how much of America is in decrepit condition. Trains were obsolete, noisy, and uncomfortable. Whole neighborhoods in disarray. Streets with shockingly poor surfaces. Wires hanging from poles all over every street. Constant grid lock on so many main highways. Even the airport and transportation from it was akin to what is expected in many third world nations.
That 11'3" bridge is simply another example of an economy so pathetic as to even lead poison its citizens in Flint MI - and many other towns where same actions by cost controllers were not reported.
Only two tunnels, built over 100 years ago by the long gone Pennsylvania railroad, are the only major connection to NYC across the Hudson River. So another bean counter (anti-America) governor quashed construction of desperately needed tunnels. And then obstructed more traffic over a bridge. It's not just bridges that are trophies to a decaying nation.
How many consider those crash videos from only one bridge acceptable? That is the definition of an American who would rather waste money on bogus wars and enrich himself rather than make America great. The people who say it costs too much - business school graduates.
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it has its own website. From the FAQ
Why don’t they fix it?
Depends on who “they” are and on what “fix” means.
The North Carolina Railroad Company owns the train trestle, and their concern is primarily with keeping the trains running and keeping them running safely. So their concern is mainly with reducing the impact of the truck crashes on the actual structure of the train trestle. As far as they are concerned, they solved that problem by installing the crash beam.
The city of Durham has installed “low clearance” signs on each of the 3 blocks leading up to the trestle (Gregson is a one-way road). There is a sensor that triggers an LED blackout warning sign when In overheight vehicle approaches the trestle (more info below). Several blocks ahead of the trestle the speed limit is 25 MPH. The folks from the city planning department said that they made an effort to prevent accidents.
The North Carolina Dept. of Transportation maintains the road, but not the signage. I suspect they have much bigger problems to deal with statewide than this bridge.
Can’t the road be lowered?
That would be prohibitively expensive because a sewer main runs just a few feet below the road bed. That sewer main also dates back about a hundred years and, again, at the time there were no real standards for minimum clearance for railroad underpasses.
Can’t the bridge be raised?
Here, too, the question is who would want to pay the millions of dollars to raise the tracks a couple of feet? To accomplish this, the grade of the tracks would have to changed on both sides of the trestle, probably for several miles. That would require rebuilding all trestles in Durham. And NS would have to shut down this busy track for months. I don’t think they are interested in that idea.
Here, too, the question is who would want to pay the millions of dollars to raise the tracks a couple of feet? To accomplish this, the grade of the tracks would have to changed on both sides of the trestle, probably for several miles.
First it did not cost anywhere near a $million to raise that bridge two feet. I believe it was less than $100,000. And the grade need only be raised for a thousand feet in each direction. When the entire bed is upgraded (every ten years if using wooden ties or when those ties are replaced with concrete), then everything gets fixed. Since they are changing most everything anyway.
After 70 years, we cannot change because nothing can be changed? Nonsense. The entire rail bed (and bridge) is fixed when major refurbishment is done every 10 or 20 years.
Problem is too many thinking like an MBA - only this year. This problem exists because 20 and 40 years ago, a solution was not being implemented. All thinking must be in terms of decades - not months or years. (It even takes four years to design a light bulb.)
We are not thinking in terms of a solution. Because so many of us are educated in MBA concepts - where everything is only about the cost this year. And then have no problem wasting $3 trillion on Mission Accomplished - due to lies.
No reason for any bridge to be less than 14 feet - in a nation that wants to make America great. But those who use that expression only want to enrich themselves - cut costs - make more Flints.
No reason for any bridge to be that low. So many fear to fix and upgrade. Since, according to spread sheets, building something new creates an asset (good). Fixing or upgrading (or even painting) something only creates an expense (evil). Spread sheet (defeatist) logic.
Just another roadside attraction.
Extreme efforts have been made to warn drivers, but extreme stupid prevails.
Video taping 24/7 has made a nice small business.
Moving vans, rental trucks and RV's seem to prevail. All entertaining.
Babble babble, babble.
Coulda, shoulda, woulda.
An interstate standard height is (should be) standard for all bridges.
Should be? You said it was the national standard. It is not, there is no national standard.
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Took friends from Europe to NYC.
Lie, you have no friends.
More irrelevant babble
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Babble babble, babble.
I lie out my ass because that is where my brain is.
I believe Saddam had WMDs.
I love The Don.
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14 feet is not the size of your penis. Please try to comprehend what was written. Not what your extremist right hand tells you.
14 feet is also the requirement for all phone, cable, and telephone wires that cross over streets. If you were not an emotional child, you would have known that. It is a defacto national standard. Bridges at less than 14 feet remain due to contempt. Same contempt justifies a lie that fixing would cost too much. A fix that was done for less than $100,000 would somehow cost a $million.
Back in the mid 1970s, a friend bought a house from the hospital for $1, moved it across town, and restored it. Adjacent was a railroad bridge at about 11 feet. Trucks would strike that bridge at least once a week. It was a normal neighborhood sound.
Just happened to be back in that state this week. NJ Transit (without interrupting service on their main line) raised that bridge almost three feet. It is only at 13 feet 11 inches. No problem. They simply jacked up the bridge, poured new concrete atop existing supports, and made the appropriate grade changes to the tracks. You can even see where cleaner, new concrete now supports that bridge.
Back then, that bridge was constantly scarred from recent strikes. I looked closely. Today, no scars from any trucks hitting that bridge. They fixed the problem rather than make excuses - ie deny that 14 foot is this nation's de facto standard.
NJ Transit is the Toonerville Trolly of the railroad world, and owned by the state of NJ, so you know who paid for that bridge bump. :rolleyes:
NJ Transit is the Toonerville Trolly of the railroad world, and owned by the state of NJ, so you know who paid for that bridge bump.
That's emotioinal conclusion clearly is not supported by intelligent thought or knowledge.
NJ Transit is starved for cash. Last year being the Summer of Hell for commuters due to Gov Christie's constant budget cuts, no additional funding, and cancelling new construction. In that same town, a bridge for one of the most used roads has been closed for most of the past ten years. NJ Transit has that little money.
A bridge was raised almost three feet because is costs so little. And was hit weekly. Raising bridges is easy, inexpensive, and should be routine over the many decades. But people like Christie and xoxoxoBruce just say it cannot be done - using emotional logic.
Another bridge on the same railroad that demonstrates a problem that naysayers deny:
No, I didn't say it couldn't be done, try reading for comprehension. I said we know who paid for it.
I said we know who paid for it.
Which is irrelevant to the topic - except if venomous.
Is your nickname Snake?
It wasn't a real railroad, it wouldn't have happened with a real railroad unless it was of benefit to them.
It wasn't a real railroad, it wouldn't have happened with a real railroad unless it was of benefit to them.
That is a major commuter line. About 60 incoming and 60 outgoing trains use that bridge daily. Each carrying hundreds of passengers.
Fortunately rail traffic was halted in time. Since a bridge strike moved that bridge (that was obviously too low) and broke rails.
It is not a real railroad only when one is naysaying emotionally.
Standard for bridges is 14 feet. For some reason, the emotional would waste $trillions for 20 years on a Mission Accomplished war (that had no purpose) rather than fix infrastructure. While denying the problem.
It's not my problem, you pay for it, I'm not paying for it, I have a righteous crusade in the middle east to pay for.
I have a righteous crusade in the middle east to pay for. ]
Actually the Chinese are paying for it. And we will be paying the Chinese (with interest) for the next 30 years.
Scrape the snow off...
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I can see how some guy's frustration (If I have to shovel ONE MORE TRUCK...) plus gumption equals this product. Well done!
I could see that for truck stops where they have to park it for eight hours or so, they could pick up a lot of snow in that time.
I usually see those at shipper yards, such as FedEx or UPS. They are more common in CO and WY and places that see a LOT of snow. Some states have even passed a law that trucks must be cleared of snow because it tends to cause a whiteout behind us until the roof clears off, which can endanger motorists who follow too closely. Falling ice is especially hazardous.
I'd like to see these scrapers in truck stops in snow-prone areas, perhaps with a small fee to use them. Safer for everybody.
But you know some idiot(Swift?) is going to use it without checking the height. :lol:
I'd like to see these scrapers in truck stops in snow-prone areas, perhaps with a small fee to use them. Safer for everybody.
Just put them in the exits and make them free to use. If people had to pay they wouldn't do it. And yes it would be safer.
Then you have all the pushed off snow piled up on the exit, and eventually it'll built up till they hit the thing. Also there are the rigs with those high airfoils on the tractor and oversize loads that won't fit.
They claim thy lost about a pound of bees... I guess they weren't insured.
I hope it was an air-ride tractor...
Pretty hard on your Prius.
Maybe sliding the battery over him would induction cook him. ;)
But, then he'd be charged with battery.
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Man, how fast was the driver going???
Ya ain't got long to look, so, look fast:
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Better bigger.
That's the video I posted the screen shots from.
Bet nobody sees this everyday...
That's pretty fucked up. Obviously there's more to the story. I'm pretty sure I don't want to know the rest of the details that leads someone to such a reaction.
I'm betting they hired him then did a background check while he was making his first run. Maybe they found out he murdered his last three employers, Has a criminal or drug record, or simply doesn't have a CDL.
But since they offered to reimburse his expenses and buy him a plane ticket, probably something scary. :unsure:
Just another example of someone who wants to wreck shit.
This should be a reminder to treat truckers decently. If they wanted they could shut this country down... I wonder what that would feel like? /s
That means you could drive faster with less congestion until passed out from hunger and crashed to death. ;)
Tricky job hauling a flagpole in the rough...
There are long loads like the flagpole and short loads.
Then there are short loads that don't last long.
Had it tied down good, though.
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That is the most forgiving transmission I have ever seen.
That's a 13 Speed Roadranger
And that Kid knows how to drive it. even with his Mother screaming at him the whole time.