Peace Activist Run Over By Bulldozer
We discussed this pretty extensively
here.Would you feel my death was so tragic if I laid down in the middle of I-10, or I-95 for you Philly-rats?
Originally posted by Nothing But Net
Would you feel my death was so tragic if I laid down in the middle of I-10, or I-95 for you Philly-rats?
On I-10 or I-95 is there only one car, going very slowly? And do you stand up when you lay down?
Originally posted by Nothing But Net
Would you feel my death was so tragic if I laid down in the middle of I-10, or I-95 for you Philly-rats?
Actually, I'd find it more tragic if you did it on Loop 610.
It turns out that what she was protesting was construction to close a tunnel between Gaza and Egpyt which was being used to transport people, munitions, etc. without detection. From
here:
The tunnels Corrie was protecting are underneath the Israel-Egypt border. These elaborate structures, often wood paneled and with electricity, communications equipment and even elevators, are typically dug inside residential homes and concealed under bathrooms, living rooms and bedrooms. They are used to smuggle weapons and explosives -- not to mention drugs and prostitutes -- from Egypt into Gaza.
...In her diary, published on the web by the "nonviolent" ISM, Corrie writes sympathetically of the killing of Israelis by terrorists. "Try to imagine, please, the courage it requires," she gushes.
This doesn't make it much better that a young woman has died, but it gives more understanding of the situation.
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Originally posted by Undertoad
It turns out that what she was protesting was construction to close a tunnel between Gaza and Egpyt which was being used to transport people, munitions, etc. without detection.
Considering how heavily influenced by Zionists even the US media is half a world away, accepting as fact an opinion piece straight from the Israel National News wouldn't seem very wise. And where are the pictures of a tunnel? The isreali army would plaster such evidence all over the news, if it actually existed, to justify their killing of Rachel. Furthermore the writer of that editorial called Rachel 'violent'. That in itself should have tipped you off that he was not being truthful.
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Does she look violent to you?
Well, suicide bombers tend to blend in with the crowd, so you never know.
Does she look violent to you?
Originally posted by Undertoad
Does she look violent to you?
She looks dead to me.
Originally posted by Undertoad
Does she look violent to you?
Hmm, not as much as Lin on a bad night.
Did Jane Fonda burn American flags in Hanoi?
What did they do to Tokyo Rose?
I know they executed Lord Haw-Haw.
How do you even
define treason anymore?
Let me elaborate.
This woman was promoting Anti-Americanism to young kids.
Frankly, I find this no less repugnant than the people strapping fake dynamite to their kids, or having them pose with an AK-47.
Fuck her.
(slang loses the little interest he had in this thread......looks for something more interesting , starts counting the ventilation holes in the back of the monitor)
9 rows of 18 holes, staggered ....with irregular spaced holes at the end...............*snore*
Via
LGF
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030327/ap_wo_en_po/me_gen_israel_peace_campaigners_1
JERUSALEM - Israeli troops raided the West Bank offices of the International Solidarity Movement on Thursday and seized a wanted member of the militant Islamic Jihad group, the army said.
The International Solidarity Movement was the group Rachel Corrie was working with.
But she was in Gaza and maybe the violent parts of the organization were mainly in the west bank. *snort*
Originally posted by Undertoad
Does she look violent to you?
No. That doesn't look violent to me.
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She looks like she is protesting actions of her government that she believes is unconscionable. Do you think it is wrong for a citizen of a democracy to protest something? Tell us how you feel about the Boston Tea Party. Or do you think it is only wrong to protest racism, killing, and destruction? Is there anything you feel strongly enough about that you would publicly protest knowing that you would be either ignored or vilified by the mainstream press?
WoG (heh, good acronym, are you one?):
Everyone is allowed to express their opinion in this country, and even assemble in public to do so (try that in most Middle East countries).
Shitting on the sidewalk, blocking streets, and standing in front of moving heavy machinery just aren't really effective ways of making a point. It just makes you look stupid.
She's not BEING violent, although she is burning (!) the symbol of her citizenship in a celebration of violent, suicidal behavior while her organization provides shelter to organizers of the worst kind of thugs.
But you can't claim that she doesn't LOOK violent. Tell the truth: if the bitch in those photos moved next door, wailing at full voice, her Zippo at the ready, well you'd surely run out and buy reinforced deadbolts, and put the number of the local cops on speed dial.
I would never say that people don't have the right to protest. I have often protested myself, and yes in the streets. However I do reserve the right to judge whether the protesters are in the right. To my way of thinking, the folks at the Tea Party were. The woman in those images is not. Which side are you on?
Originally posted by Undertoad
if the bitch in those photos moved next door, wailing at full voice, her Zippo at the ready, well you'd surely run out and buy reinforced deadbolts, and put the number of the local cops on speed dial.
Undertoad, not only are you a poet, but you're a fucking genius as well.
Kudos, my friend, that was one of the best posts anywhere, ever.
Well you know when you witness that kind of opression and forced depreavity every day you tend ot get ANGRY. In fact you'd probably start to understand and empathise why people are willing to sacrifice thier such limited lives when they live in a state of constant bullying, humiliation and slaughter that means even non-violent results in bloody murder of even foreign citizens without qualms but thugs. Only difference is the thugs have tanks, armoured bulldozers and f-16s. Which legitimises it of course.
What's she burning there, Tony?
Found this <a href="http://www.israelnationalnews.com/article.php3?id=2111">article</a>[israelnationalnews.com]:
Rachel Corrie´s wasted life ended as a result of throwing herself in front of an Israeli bulldozer to protect the "property" of a terrorist,
But i can't decide who is the bigger fool, The one that steps infont of the buldozer or the one that drives it.
It wasn't the home of a doctor she was standing in front of?
She's burning the symbol of her country of citizenship.
<a href="http://www.cellar.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=20062#post20062">And there's something wrong with that?</a>
Originally posted by Undertoad
Which side are you on?
I am on the side of Truth, Justice, and Liberty. Your vulgarities and arguments could never sway me from that. I will defend the Constitution and its Bill of Rights to my last breath. I have been a soldier but now I am a citizen, and I compelled by the duties of a citizen to question the actions and motives of my representatives. I will protest when necessary and I will defend the right of others to express protest even if I disagree with their message. Which side are you on?
Well wrath you sound like either a evangilist or a politician. I would not judge or attack anyone on who's side they are on because everyone is entitled to their own opinions. As long as they believe in their thing than that is fine, but are we still talking about the same post or are you using this as a campian to something bigger?? Just curious...:)
Yeah, that last post by polliwog sounded like something radar would say...maybe they're related.
WoG, thank you for your service.
It's interesting because I, too, am on the side of Truth, Justice, and Liberty and believe in defending the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
So THAT'S not the source of our differences... what is?
Everyone is allowed to voice their opinion and demonstrate their position as long as they do it in a way that's acceptable to ME.
I'm sure she'd be a lot more annoyed if she knew just how little her country seems to care about the killing of a citizen in cold blood by a soverign nation which for some unknown reason i find funny, i don't have the faintest why....
Omigawd, did the entire nation kill her?
Originally posted by Nothing But Net
Would you feel my death was so tragic if I laid down in the middle of I-10, or I-95 for you Philly-rats?
If I was caught in traffic for 2-3 hours while they cleaned up the mess, yes.
Well last i checked it *was* an Isreali military bulldozer involed in military operations for the state of Isreal, therefore those actions are representative of the state of Isreal and i certainly haven't heard them denouncing him since. As a result it seems safe to conclude that the actions of the aforesaid bulldozer driver were representative of the wishes of the state of Isreal.
[SIZE=3]The "State of Isreal" said it was an accident. Maybe the "state of Ireal" is lke most of the nations of the world that don't want americans interfering in their business.[/SIZE] Just send money.
For anyone interested in what she was actually protesting against:
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2002/18278.htm#ot
Note that this report is written by Israels closest ally who also makes an annual gift to Israel of around 6 Billion US dollars according to:
http://www.wrmea.com/html/usaidtoisrael0001.htm
This report is shorter and comes from Amnesty International:
http://web.amnesty.org/web/ar2002.nsf/mde/israel+and+the+occupied+territories+!OpenThis Brings up a good question which i'll start in a <a href="http://www.cellar.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3130">new forum</a>.