Annoying war on drugs.

So Lil' Griff and I are sick. I was preaching on the virtues of Mucinex D(?) the one with pseudo-ephedrine. It really helped my sinus last time around. So I stop at the pharmacy on my way from picking up my Dad's coal. Its behind the counter because we're having a War on Drugs™. The government web-site is down, so you can't have it... Cuz I'm going to make a batch of Hillbilly Heroin from like 12 tablets?

I hate that regulation as well.

Harder to buy cold medicine than vodka.

...or a gun.

Griff;890924 wrote:

Cuz I'm going to make a batch of Hillbilly Heroin from like 12 tablets?

Well, they gotta know how many times you bought 12 tablets. They just gotta.

Gravdigr;890938 wrote:

Well, they gotta know how many times you bought 12 tablets. They just gotta.

I actually asked my pharmacist about that last month. I read a story about a woman who got arrested and I was wondering if there is some magic number that only the government knows. If you're in a household where not everyone has a photo ID, how many tablets can you get? Does it just deny you or do they go straight to arrest mode?

Apparently, the system just denies you in Delaware. I'm looking for the story to see how the woman got arrested for this. It appears Indiana goes with plan B (arrest mode).

http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/29/sudafed-head-indiana-women-arrested-for-buying-two-over-the-counter-medicines-within-a-week/

Meanwhile, the body intentionally stuffs your nose to cure a disease. Stuffy nose and coughing is what a body does to cure you faster. But advertising hypes cold remedies as necessary. And forgets to mention it subverts what the body does for health.

Better is to work with a body to make a stuffy nose irrelevant. Get in a warmer room. Then the body need not stuff up your nose to keep sinuses warmer; to get you healthier faster.

Meanwhile, supplying meth labs is apparently a good thing. After all, meth heads do not cause problems for others.

Thank you for your superior knowledge if my sinus. I think I'll go with my medical doctor's assessment.

Griff;890968 wrote:

Thank you for your superior knowledge if my sinus. I think I'll go with my medical doctor's assessment.

So your medical doctor says stuffy nose is not what a body does to fix itself? Or is he only curing symptoms you want cured?

If you want to fix the air quality of every school building I go into have at. Those symptoms will in my case lead to a sinus infection, maybe you should do my surgery as well. I'll stick to sinus rinses and the very rare use of medication instead of antibiotics or surgery. Are you in an emotional mood again? You seem to be attacking on all threads.

Griff;890975 wrote:

If you want to fix the air quality of every school building I go into have at. Those symptoms will in my case lead to a sinus infection, maybe you should do my surgery as well. .

Sinuses create flem to protect you from bad air. An average adult swallows about 1 gallon of flem every day. A rather amazing number. And a process required for your health.

During some types of colds, sinuses create more flem. They stuffy nose. It keeps sinuses warmer. Accomplish same by sitting in a sauna. A stuffy nose will then clear since it does not need flem to protect sinuses. Why would any of this make you angry?

You have a choice. Either let the body keep your sinuses warmer by creating a stuffy nose. Or cure that symptom with drugs.

Cold medications do nothing to make you healthier. Airborne was the latest and classic scam. That is also not an attack. But that reality challenges what so many believe due to advertising.

Some get angry to learn that advertising has again deceived them. Those meth based drugs only cure symptoms. Some were banned or are strongly discouraged by doctors due to their long term adverse effects.

Well published is a simple fact. None of those non-perscription cold remedies improves health. Those chemicals - also used by drug dealers to create crystal meth - only cure symptoms. In this case, they subvert a process the body used to eliminate the common cold faster.

Why would you assume this is an attack? Only stated was a medical reality. If a reallity makes one angry, that it is an attack? Of course not. It is just another reality that contradicts popular and widely believed myths.

Better than meth based sinus drugs is a long rest in a sauna. Since warmer air that makes excessive flem unnecessary while doing what the body wants eliiminate the cold virus.

Did you not know that and therefore get angry? Or did you need pseudo-ephedrine to relieve symptoms despite their adverse effects?

I use steam and force fluids as well. Some sinuses will not always respond. That is why my doctor recommended over the counter medication. I'm sorry I assumed that you're hurting tonight but it looks like you're falling into your old emotion based habit of ignoring information that doesn't fit your paradigm like doctor recommendations, stack stone basements, and other basic life realities.

Griff;890999 wrote:

I use steam and force fluids as well. Some sinuses will not always respond. That is why my doctor recommended over the counter medication.

So the answer was you wanted a doctor to cure symptoms. And were not looking for cure. Fine. Why did it take you so long to answer that simple question? Why, instead, be nasty?

Pseudo-ephedrine was fueling a major crystal meth epidemic. Apparently you do not like it or did not know that. Restricting that drug's sales is necessary. Resulting restrictions made necessary by so many meth labs, meth addicts and their resulting crimes. How was the epidemic fueled? Tiny amounts were purchased in many stores - in similar amounts. Resulting in necessary restrictions.

Don't blame stores or restrictions. Blame crystal meth addicts and labs that made restrictions necessary. Why does that also make you angry?

Actually, as I said before, I want to prevent a sinus infection. I missed the part where I was nasty. I'm actually feeling pretty mellow. Time to hit the sack. I hope you're feeling better.

I'm pretty sure flem is a misspelling of phlegm.

(I might be kinda with tw on this)

..apart from the spelling

I thought it was fairly common knowledge that symptomatic relief may come at the expense of prolonged illness; but, that it's considered an acceptable tradeoff when symptoms become too distracting for people's situations.

The reason we have a nose is to filter out crap and warm cold air to protect the lungs. If the nose is plugged it can't do that as mouth breathing becomes mandatory.

Good point, Bruce. And sinuses, being an integral and internal part of our homeostatic, warm blooded bodies, don't need to be kept warm. Just sayin'.

xoxoxoBruce;891025 wrote:

The reason we have a nose is to filter out crap and warm cold air to protect the lungs. If the nose is plugged it can't do that as mouth breathing becomes mandatory.

When running (with mouth open), the tongue captures insects. Snack food.

A source of protein. Right, tw?

monster;891015 wrote:

(I might be kinda with tw on this)

We all are. I know the choice I'm making. He just ignores particulars of individual cases in favor of over-arching assumptions.

Not to mention the fact that sinuses can also swell inappropriately, in response to an allergen, for example. No amount of warmth is going to "kill off" that cedar pollen in my son's nose. Our survival mechanisms are useful in the right circumstances, but they don't always work in our favor.

Is there a lot of cedar in your area?

Oh yes indeed.

There have been a handful of false calls to the fire department across the city, because people thought the trees were "smoking" when in fact it was just clouds and clouds of cedar pollen wafting off the branches.

Oh, that is brutal!

I guess a heavy rain, carefully timed to the pollen release, is the only thing that would help. That's not happening.:kettle:

orthodoc;891029 wrote:

A source of protein. Right, tw?

Insects are like good candy. Crunchy on the outside. Soft in the inside. Its an acquired taste.

Clodfobble;891051 wrote:

No amount of warmth is going to "kill off" that cedar pollen in my son's nose.

Anybody dependent on Claritin (and equivalents)?

Griff;890924 wrote:

So Lil' Griff and I are sick. I was preaching on the virtues of Mucinex D(?) the one with pseudo-ephedrine. It really helped my sinus last time around. So I stop at the pharmacy on my way from picking up my Dad's coal. Its behind the counter because we're having a War on Drugs™. The government web-site is down, so you can't have it... Cuz I'm going to make a batch of Hillbilly Heroin from like 12 tablets?

Also unavailable in Oregon OTC. Claritin-D requires Dr Rx.

BigV;891113 wrote:

Claritin-D requires Dr Rx.

What is the difference between over the counter Claritin and Claritin-D? I know a kid who apparently must take Claritin daily.

clairatin makes me dream weird , bad sit up in the middle of the night sweating OH SHIT what the HELL was THAT Dreams ,
Zyrtec is what i use , no bad dreams

Claritin-D contains pseudephedrine. It's behind the pharmacy counter in PA and WV, limited purchase etc. Plain Claritin is just antihistamine.

tw wrote:

Anybody dependent on Claritin (and equivalents)?

Nasonex is our allergy drug of choice.

Thank you orthodoc. :-)

orthodoc;891120 wrote:

Plain Claritin is just antihistamine.

Do they have anything in common other than a same manufacturer and same name?

If you could Read? you wouldn't need to ask that question.

Allyson Schwartz apparent front runner for the Democratic nomination to be Governor of Pennsyltucky says she wants to decriminalize marijuana. One of her Democratic opponents, John Hanger, wants to "recreationalize" it. Prolly too many right wing nuts in my part of PA for this to come to fruition but you gotta dream.

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